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Well done shaan masood. A very very impressive 100 minutes of batting against England's best bowlers at a most difficult time and situation to bat in.
Anderson beat him twice and that was it, and he even picked up the short balls well.
I was loving the temperament throughout the innings even though it was getting helter-skelter from the other end.
Keep it going kid.
You played your role well today by blunting Jimmy and Broad but we need more please.
Good luck.
May Allah be with you tomorrow for a big one.
 
I'm liking this kid the more I see him.
Game looked in nice order today.
Yes it is a flat wicket but it was still a pressure situation.
I'm happy he is in for shehzad and I really want him to do well due to his application and commitment
 
He will need to carry on the hard work tomorrow, no amount of complacency can compensate for this..

50 for him will secure his place in the side.. but we need a big one from him tomorrrow.. a 50 won't be good enough..

He has to step up like he did in the 4th innings of Galle test match
 
A Very Watchful Innings. He should carry on and score A Big 100 or a 200 To Save This Test Match
 
Yeah, he is the next Alastair Cook. He will come out tomorrow and smash a triple century. The resemblance to Cook is uncanny, he is tall and even speaks good english- good enough to be the next captain of Pakistan. The 34 average in first-class means nothing, he will come good and his 20-odd in the last match was promising. Don't forget one of his 2 fifties was a match-winning 70 against South Africa 3 years ago. We saw signs of his legendary potential when he scored a maiden match winning century against a hostile Sri Lankan attack that included Dilruwan Perera at his best. Masood will prove all the doubters wrong tomorrow with a world class innings.
 
Gutsy

but the truth is that he isn't good enough to be in the side
 
Never going to be Anwar, not many can be either; but he has enough of what makes one a successful Test opener. Unfortunately, this man gets all sorts of negative bashing for wrong reasons, but same people won't write anything for Azhar.

The game is built on Character, more than anything else. Skills can be developed, technique can be polished, shot making ability can be improved, power can be grown - but attitude, work ethics, focus, attention to details, dedication can't be; these are soft skills, personality traits. And the intilligence to learn from mistake is a good habit, it can help minimize errors significantly. If not for those, Khan would have kept dreaming to become Anwar Ali.
 
He looked more assured as the innings progressed. He surprised me today, positively.
 
MMHS said:
Never going to be Anwar, not many can be either; but he has enough of what makes one a successful Test opener. Unfortunately, this man gets all sorts of negative bashing for wrong reasons, but same people won't write anything for Azhar.

The game is built on Character, more than anything else. Skills can be developed, technique can be polished, shot making ability can be improved, power can be grown - but attitude, work ethics, focus, attention to details, dedication can't be; these are soft skills, personality traits. And the intilligence to learn from mistake is a good habit, it can help minimize errors significantly. If not for those, Khan would have kept dreaming to become Anwar Ali.
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First of all, no he hasnt enough to be a successful test opener.

Second, there are currently two threads going on questioning Azhar Ali's performance. One by yours truly.
 
Guys don't try to make the OP into something it isn't.
We see enough negative threads on PP. This was just highlighting a small positive today. Off course nothing is achieved yet and there is no point getting through the most toughest of periods to then give it away.
I just liked how comfortable he was looking out there and wasn't really expecting it!
 
problem with him that he only knows two ways to play the ball. Either pull or with the straight bat,straight drives etc. He struggles with his offside game and has tough time working the ball off his pads. He will take a lot of time to score another 30 runs.

He is a hard working lad though and very gritty which has made me like him if he does have a good day tomorrow then you never know perception about him can be changed.
 
LowKiiSavage said:
First of all, no he hasnt enough to be a successful test opener.

Second, there are currently two threads going on questioning Azhar Ali's performance. One by yours truly.
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He has more than enough than Shehzad, trust me. He can end up Test career with average in high 30s or even 40s. Ahmed might have pulled down his one in 20s, if he had played 4 Tests in England. If not, still he'll never show the grit of this man.

Please learn to appritiate where it's due. I see lots of posters almost pray for the failure of particular players, just to prove an argument.
 
MRSN said:
problem with him that he only knows two ways to play the ball. Either pull or with the straight bat,straight drives etc. He struggles with his offside game and has tough time working the ball off his pads. He will take a lot of time to score another 30 runs.

He is a hard working lad though and very gritty which has made me like him if he does have a good day tomorrow then you never know perception about him can be changed.
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I hope so- I had the same feelings as you but he was good off his leg and hips and wsa working it to square and fine leg by then. Pull shot I didn't know if he could play in England against a new ball, and he also put Moeen and Woakes through point for 4 a couple of times, so inshaAllah we will see a good innings tomorrow
 
Credit where credit is due.
i gave this kid a hard time but maybe, just maybe the kid has got something(guts unlike Mr Hafeez).
 
Too early to say anything. For all we know, he could fall early tommorow. There is no confidence in his batting or body language. Unfortunately the youngsters we have coming out of Pakistan just don't have that instinct that a lot of Young Indian Cricketers have i.e. come and get me, you gotta knock me out, bring it on e.t.c.
 
MMHS said:
He has more than enough than Shehzad, trust me. He can end up Test career with average in high 30s or even 40s. Ahmed might have pulled down his one in 20s, if he had played 4 Tests in England. If not, still he'll never show the grit of this man.

Please learn to appritiate where it's due. I see lots of posters almost pray for the failure of particular players, just to prove an argument.
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There is no evidence to prove what you are saying. Come back to me, when you have any. All i see is his pathetic 28 average and awful technique.
 
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] is right. Shehzads test numbers are inflated but his fans love bringing them up. It's like only describing Hafeez using his UAE average. Shan looked solid yesterday but it's very important he does well tomorrow. So far he has shown the ability to survive under pressure and shown guts. Things that Shehzad can not do.
 
MMHS said:
Never going to be Anwar, not many can be either; but he has enough of what makes one a successful Test opener. Unfortunately, this man gets all sorts of negative bashing for wrong reasons, but same people won't write anything for Azhar.

The game is built on Character, more than anything else. Skills can be developed, technique can be polished, shot making ability can be improved, power can be grown - but attitude, work ethics, focus, attention to details, dedication can't be; these are soft skills, personality traits. And the intilligence to learn from mistake is a good habit, it can help minimize errors significantly. If not for those, Khan would have kept dreaming to become Anwar Ali.
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see if an in-famous and not a lover boy character like cricketer scores a triple ton in the most difficult pitches in the world, people will still say shehzads hundred in dhaka is the best or UA's 100 against afghanistan is the best innings ever played by a pakistani... hope masood make it big tmr and then lets see the reaction here in pp...
 
He has what it takes to be a good test opener. Today he has shown application and that is what he needs. He has a weakness which has been targeted and today one could see that he has worked it. He was lining the ball up better, pushing forward more..minor adjustments. It was good to see and shows that he actually tries and learn from his mistakes.

He needs to work on his concentration and consistency and he can be a very good player but there is that dreaded can be. For a long time Pakistan has had a lot of "can be"s. can be a very good batsman, can be a very good bowler and not enough players who broke through and actually became very good. This innings showed that he may be one of those guys who actually learns from his mistakes now lets see how far he goes in this innings. Does his concentration hold up or will he slip back to his former technique.
 
Fahdi said:
He has what it takes to be a good test opener. Today he has shown application and that is what he needs. He has a weakness which has been targeted and today one could see that he has worked it. He was lining the ball up better, pushing forward more..minor adjustments. It was good to see and shows that he actually tries and learn from his mistakes.

He needs to work on his concentration and consistency and he can be a very good player but there is that dreaded can be. For a long time Pakistan has had a lot of "can be"s. can be a very good batsman, can be a very good bowler and not enough players who broke through and actually became very good. This innings showed that he may be one of those guys who actually learns from his mistakes now lets see how far he goes in this innings. Does his concentration hold up or will he slip back to his former technique.
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Your post has the clue of the failure - PCB tried to judge a youngster (batsman) on shot making skills (OK talent), rather than the work ethics. These players came with a bang for their natural ability, but didn't have the character to work hard on improving on their game. What happens is, once you are in lime light International teams start to expose you - that's the time when Salim Elahi, Nazir, Faisal, Umar, Ahmed, Amin ... I can name few more, started to fail.

Cricket is an unique game, where skills (executing a shot) is a single event - success lies in repetition of that & avoiding mistakes (perfection); this actually needs different character.
 
Very impressed with him today he has worked on his weakness and that paid off. I think what matters the most is that you learn from your mistakes and improve. I find his technique and temperament better than the so called experienced batsmen hafeez and Azhar ali.
 
He was pathetic.

England him Eat him alive tommorow after watching the video of his batting today.

They bowled too wide and abit short against him hence he survived.


They will ball at driveable fuller length to him at 4th 5th stump tommorow as he does not take a decent front foot stride so that for him is good length :-)

Slips await end of his career ;-)

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What I like about him is he will always try and fight till the end. He hasn't thrown in the towel even though he hasn't been scoring runs in the most attractive way. He needs to make a century tomorrow
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
He was pathetic.

England him Eat him alive tommorow after watching the video of his batting today.

They bowled too wide and abit short against him hence he survived.


They will ball at driveable fuller length to him at 4th 5th stump tommorow as he does not take a decent front foot stride so that for him is good length :-)

Slips await end of his career ;-)

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Are you nuts?

This guy played much better than the legends and future ATGs
 
This thread may give him nazar and he get out early in morning tomorrow
 
Very good batting. Developing well and the hard work is paying off. He's similar to YK with the amount of time he dedicates to his craft.
 
Runs are immaterial at this stage. England have batted us out of this game.

Shan and company need to bat all day tomorrow and hopefully till lunch on day four.

At which stage we would most likely have avoided the follow on but England might still have a lead of 150+..
 
The one thing Shan has got is guts, and that's what pulls him through pressure situations at times. I actually don't mind having him around the team and giving him an extended run, he's shown that he has the hunger to improve his game.
 
He may be limited, but he has the mindset!

His innings today was good. Looks like he worked on his weakness from the last test where he was poking at balls wide enough to leave comfortably, resulting to him edging behind. Today he didn't poke and left every ball he didn't need to play at.

Yes, he is nothing special, but if he can develop a good work ethic he can always become good!
 
MMHS said:
Your post has the clue of the failure - PCB tried to judge a youngster (batsman) on shot making skills (OK talent), rather than the work ethics. These players came with a bang for their natural ability, but didn't have the character to work hard on improving on their game. What happens is, once you are in lime light International teams start to expose you - that's the time when Salim Elahi, Nazir, Faisal, Umar, Ahmed, Amin ... I can name few more, started to fail.

Cricket is an unique game, where skills (executing a shot) is a single event - success lies in repetition of that & avoiding mistakes (perfection); this actually needs different character.
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I agree that all these guys who faded away lacked the work ethic to work on their game and improve on their mistakes.

As far as selecting them goes well you can't really fault the selectors for that. They had potential and performances to back it up; those are the sort of players you back to do well at the international level. And as you said they do perform on the big stage with the way they burst onto the scene. Now working on your mistakes, improving your game and coming back a better player is on them.

If anything I will blame the quality of our domestic cricket for why these 'talents' lack the application and will to work on their game. In the domestic circuit they really don't need to do much, their natural ability is enough to win games for their teams. Usually the hard working and thinking cricketers are the ones who lack that much ability.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
He was pathetic.

England him Eat him alive tommorow after watching the video of his batting today.

They bowled too wide and abit short against him hence he survived.


They will ball at driveable fuller length to him at 4th 5th stump tommorow as he does not take a decent front foot stride so that for him is good length :-)

Slips await end of his career ;-)

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Definitely the most pathetic analysis I ever read.
 
A 30 odd after so many failures and we have a thread apprciating him. These guys need to earn appreciation and Shan hasnt done anything other than that innings against SL.
 
There are two main problems with his batting:

1. His footwork. He neither gets forward or back and is largely stuck in no-mans land. This is a problem when the ball is on a good length as Anderson just bowled to him to get him out.

2. The other thing is that he does not know where his off stump his. Most of his dismissals in this series have been down to him playing at balls that he didn't need to play at.
 
Can't survive more than 2-3 good deliveries.

Hallmark of a batsman who is not gifted enough.
 
Hardworking but out of his depth at this level .He isnt international quality , too many flaws.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
He was pathetic.

England him Eat him alive tommorow after watching the video of his batting today.

They bowled too wide and abit short against him hence he survived.


They will ball at driveable fuller length to him at 4th 5th stump tommorow as he does not take a decent front foot stride so that for him is good length :-)

Slips await end of his career ;-)

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Firebreaker said:
Are you nuts?

This guy played much better than the legends and future ATGs
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Yaasir said:
Definitely the most pathetic analysis I ever read.
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Anderson to Shan Masood, OUT, edged, and that's the end of that! Climbs on Masood outside off, draws an involuntary stab, and Root at second slip pouches a simple waist-high chance to his right

Shan Masood c Root b Anderson 39 (84b 5x4 0x6) SR: 46.42
 
Next Captain??? ... Buhahahahahaha...
One fluke inning in SL and people here were expecting him to score a hundred..
His failure was imminent..
He flopped in UAE against the same opposition.
If for not his connections, he wont even make it to Pakistan A team...
 
LowKiiSavage said:
Hate to be that guy but called it. :) [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] looks like another 'prediction' down the drain, old chap.
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No one predicted him to be great, neither score big in England. Very limited player, but he is doing a decent job. He is exceeding more than what I expected of him in this series - you can check that specific thread.

In any case, Ahmed is not the solution - may be PAK can try the other opener they have brought, a rookie; but Shaan shouldn't be the first one to be dropped here. And there are not many waiting at home either, who would come in England & bat for 4 hours, after 10 hours of fielding & facing 600.
 
He had made good adjustments to combat the threat but as I feared he again fell back to his old way. He is as others have said not the most gifted of batsmen and had to really concentrate, as his concentration wavered he forgot the adjustments he made and got out.

He has the right mindset of trying to learn from his mistakes and improving. If only other more capable batsmen had this sort of mentality.
 
He idolizes Cook, and hopes to have a Test career like him.
 
guys who are saying that his game as it currently is, is good enough for test cricket, obviously don't know too much about the game of cricket.

He has a horrendous technique for an opener. Unless you want your opener to do nothing more than survive. The way his technique is setup, he can't score runs on the offside. He can either block, leave, or nick off. He doesn't have the capacity to score consistent runs through the offside, put Anderson off his lines by playing him through the covers etc.

I understand players have limitations, but when your only scoring areas are leg side then its going to be a struggle.

The epitome is seeing his back leg swing out to the slips, whilst his front leg remains on leg stump, leaving balls angling across him..
 
Corridor of Uncertainty said:
Never take panga with [MENTION=138980]TalentSpotterPk[/MENTION] #boss
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For Shan Masood Corridor of Uncertainty is even the fuller length which good batsman drive for four because He does not take a decent front foot stride.


I love your User Name.

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Why do have these threads popping up for a fluke knock by a mediocre no technique batsman?

Do people even watch how someone scores his runs?

Cut out the knee jerks.
 
Anderson has dismissed him 5 times now for 15 runs .lol
That is cullinan/warne level ownage.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
28.5


Anderson to Shan Masood, OUT, edged, and that's the end of that! Climbs on Masood outside off, draws an involuntary stab, and Root at second slip pouches a simple waist-high chance to his right

Shan Masood c Root b Anderson 39 (84b 5x4 0x6) SR: 46.42
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Bro it wasn't fuller length at all
 
Saj said:
There are two main problems with his batting:

1. His footwork. He neither gets forward or back and is largely stuck in no-mans land. This is a problem when the ball is on a good length as Anderson just bowled to him to get him out.

2. The other thing is that he does not know where his off stump his. Most of his dismissals in this series have been down to him playing at balls that he didn't need to play at.
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These problems have been aparent from 1st day he was picked in test cricket and nothing has improved or changed, simply not good enough to play test cricket, time for him to be dropped and time to move on.
 
And there he goes, yet again. Jimmy's bunny. 6 out of 6, is it now?
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION]
 
This is just embarresing

Steyn destroying Hafeez and Anderson destroying Masood
 
Rana said:
This is just embarresing

Steyn destroying Hafeez and Anderson destroying Masood
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8 out of 10 bowlers will destroy him I dont see him doing even good in domestic cricket no idea why he is selected


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Hard worker but unfortunately doesn't have what it takes to succeed at test level. The next man in the pecking order should now be given a chance.

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I said before the test series it was a joke decision to select him when its clearly obvious he doesnt know what end of the cricket bat to hold and anyone with half a brain can work out how to bowl to him and get him out.
 
dhump said:
8 out of 10 bowlers will destroy him I dont see him doing even good in domestic cricket no idea why he is selected


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Grooming to become the next captain. one of the very rare educated players in the Pakistan set up
 
Rana said:
Grooming to become the next captain. one of the very rare educated players in the Pakistan set up
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Less talented Ramiz Raja this is what he is at best.

Ramiz was horrible captain.


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dhump said:
Less talented Ramiz Raja this is what he is at best.

Ramiz was horrible captain.


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Ramiz just knows how to translate his urdu well into English with a fairly decent accent. Not exactly a great thinker out of the box
 
being gritty is good but you need talent and skills to make it count. SHan should never have been the replacement of Shehzad. Always said Shehzad is far better than Masood.
 
Rana said:
Ramiz just knows how to translate his urdu well into English with a fairly decent accent. Not exactly a great thinker out of the box
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He was slightly less bad batsman than Shan honestly so give him this.


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LowKiiSavage said:
And there he goes, yet again. Jimmy's bunny. 6 out of 6, is it now?
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION]
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Don't understand what's your point to tag me - none claimed Shaan to be technically sound; not even decent. But he was picked to open & he is not the worst performer in the series.

Bunny of Anderson - may be; but that's not his monopoly only. If you want to argue just for the sake of it, he is so far 3rd best of the 6 batsmen, may be 4th after this innings if MoHa can stack up some. I am not sure, who should be in question more now - PAK's no. 2 or No. 3? Do you think, anyone is going to drop Azhar or even move him from No. 3?

PAK's opening resources are poor; and they picked a rooki as back-up. Why Ahmed is not there, everyone knows & it's not hard to understand which is more shameful - being bunnied by Anderson or the circumstances that Shehzad was dropped. And this is from someone an admirer of Ahmed from his genuine teen age days.

If there is any nepotism, than it touches Inzi, not the tour management - they can't play Sami in England after 15 months of his last Test. And, you can't blame Inzi either - he hardly has any options left. Took charge of the CS job 2 months back; he can't drop 2/3 players that won the last series between same opponents.
 
Should be his last game .
Embarrasingly inept .
Would not make county first 11s.
 
MMHS said:
Never going to be Anwar, not many can be either; but he has enough of what makes one a successful Test opener. Unfortunately, this man gets all sorts of negative bashing for wrong reasons, but same people won't write anything for Azhar.

The game is built on Character, more than anything else. Skills can be developed, technique can be polished, shot making ability can be improved, power can be grown - but attitude, work ethics, focus, attention to details, dedication can't be; these are soft skills, personality traits. And the intilligence to learn from mistake is a good habit, it can help minimize errors significantly. If not for those, Khan would have kept dreaming to become Anwar Ali.
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The guy indeed has a strong character & true grit - not a bad candidate for Captaincy.
 
Whilst it would be wrong to change or select a captain based on just one tour, Shan is doing all the right things. Demonstrating good temperament and playing with a straight bat. Even chipping in with good part time bowling around the same speed as philander.
 
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