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The Pakistan Cricket Board has given special dispensation to Shoaib Malik by allowing him to join the men’s national cricket team in England on 24 July after spending time with his immediate family, whom he has not seen for nearly five months.

Shoaib’s wife, Sania Mirza, and one-year-old son, Izhaan Mirza Malik, have been in India, while Shoaib has been in Sialkot since the imposition of international travel ban due to the global Covid-19 pandemic. Prior to the travel ban, Shoaib was involved for Peshawar Zalmi in the HBL Pakistan Super League, which commenced on 20 February before it was suspended on 17 March.

PCB Chief Executive Wasim Khan: “Unlike the rest of us, Shoaib Malik has not seen his immediate family for nearly five months due to his commitments and the subsequent international travel bans following the Covid-19 pandemic. As travel restrictions are now slowly easing out and there is an opportunity for a family reunion, it is appropriate that at a human level we show compassion as part of our duty of care and respect Shoaib’s request.

“We have spoken with the England and Wales Cricket Board who understand the situation and have agreed to make an exception by helping Shoaib enter the country on 24 July. Of course, Shoaib will follow the UK government’s policies on visitors entering the country before integrating with the side.”

The team will depart on 28 June for Manchester, before driving to Derbyshire for their 14-day quarantine period during which they will be allowed to train and practice. Apart from training and practicing, there will be intra-squad matches to compensate for the lack of practice matches due to non-availability of local teams as the ECB is yet to commence its domestic season.
 
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I'm no covid expert, but doesn't this defeat the plans of all the squad travelling and staying together throughout the tour.
 
I'm no covid expert, but doesn't this defeat the plans of all the squad travelling and staying together throughout the tour.
It’s not up to either the PCB or the ECB. Neither Board has any authority to “make an exemption”.

Under UK Law he will be required to isolate separately from the rest of the squad for a period of 14 days at a separate location.

The PCB clearly don’t understand anything about bio security. The whole point is that he shouldn’t be meeting with relatives he hasn’t seen for months.

I’m increasingly certain that 3-5 members of the squad will test positive on departure and the the tour will be cancelled.
 
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Pretty poor from PCB

How could he join the squad without 14 day quarantine?
 
It’s not up to either the PCB or the ECB. Neither Board has any authority to “make an exemption”.

Under UK Law he will be required to isolate separately from the rest of the squad for a period of 14 days at a separate location.

The PCB clearly don’t understand anything about bio security. The whole point is that he shouldn’t be meeting with relatives he hasn’t seen for months.

I’m increasingly certain that 3-5 members of the squad will test positive on departure and the the tour will be cancelled.

He will isolate but then when he joins the team, what happens then?

Will he travel in a special bus etc before joining the team?
 
He will isolate but then when he joins the team, what happens then?

Will he travel in a special bus etc before joining the team?

He will get tested after 14 days, if negative then he will be part of the squad like others
 
He will get tested after 14 days, if negative then he will be part of the squad like others

The idea was that the squad remains together in a bio-secure area but this breaks the whole chain.
 
If he's isolated for 14 days and tested before entering the 'bubble' then what's the issue?

Dont think what you say is an issue but the chances of him contracting something along the way are high. Pakistan will need to be ready with a replacement should he test positive.

The whole idea of keeping the squad together was to reduce/eliminate this probability.

Now it will be a wing/prayer type thing.
 
Dont think what you say is an issue but the chances of him contracting something along the way are high. Pakistan will need to be ready with a replacement should he test positive.

The whole idea of keeping the squad together was to reduce/eliminate this probability.

Now it will be a wing/prayer type thing.

If he picks something up it will show during his quarantine period or his test before joining the squad. If he tests positive it's not really a big deal cricketing wise, the squad is massive.
 
If he picks something up it will show during his quarantine period or his test before joining the squad. If he tests positive it's not really a big deal cricketing wise, the squad is massive.

Guess lets hope for the best!
 
Dont think what you say is an issue but the chances of him contracting something along the way are high. Pakistan will need to be ready with a replacement should he test positive.

The whole idea of keeping the squad together was to reduce/eliminate this probability.

Now it will be a wing/prayer type thing.

I think the chances of him catching anything in England whilst wearing PPE is now extremely low.
 
If he's isolated for 14 days and tested before entering the 'bubble' then what's the issue?

This issue is that up to a third of all coronavirus negative test results are false negatives. So Malik might test negative, join the squad and spread the virus.

Look I get it, Malik hasn't seen his wife and daughter in many months and it's a real shame. But all of us have made huge sacrifices in this pandemic and Malik's case is not so exceptional so as to jeopardise the entire tour and the health of everyone in the squad. Malik is only going to play t20s anyway - it's not that important and he should just stay home.
 
I think the chances of him catching anything in England whilst wearing PPE is now extremely low.

Inshallah!

its not what he catches in England - its what he brings with him. Just introduces an unplanned element in the squad's health scenario.
 
Btw, India has a 2 week quarantine rule also.

So assume he gets there today, he will not be able to see his family until 4th July, he then has 3 weeks to spend with his family - just hope he takes care of covid precautions.
 
This issue is that up to a third of all coronavirus negative test results are false negatives. So Malik might test negative, join the squad and spread the virus.

Look I get it, Malik hasn't seen his wife and daughter in many months and it's a real shame. But all of us have made huge sacrifices in this pandemic and Malik's case is not so exceptional so as to jeopardise the entire tour and the health of everyone in the squad. Malik is only going to play t20s anyway - it's not that important and he should just stay home.

Agree on the front that if he's just coming over for 3 T20s it's not really worth the effort and he might as well stay at home.

You'd have to think though that the chance of him contracting the virus, being asymptomatic and then getting tested (presumably multiple times) and giving multiple false negatives are insanely slim.
 
He isn't going to play tests. There is no point in risking himself for 3 T20s. He should spend the time with his family.
 
Here is a thought, why is a guy that is well over 40 being chosen for the T20 team.

He’s our future...
Best batsmen in limited overs and would have been the best test player, better than YK, had he played the same amount of games.
 
Agree on the front that if he's just coming over for 3 T20s it's not really worth the effort and he might as well stay at home.

You'd have to think though that the chance of him contracting the virus, being asymptomatic and then getting tested (presumably multiple times) and giving multiple false negatives are insanely slim.

He will fly out from India (presumably) where there has been an upsurge in infections so whilst protocols for Pakistan side are in place, will he also be tested twice in India etc?
 
He will fly out from India (presumably) where there has been an upsurge in infections so whilst protocols for Pakistan side are in place, will he also be tested twice in India etc?

As far as I'm aware a lot of airports are now doing temperature checks. You'd assume the ECB will organise for him to be tested as soon as he arrives at wherever he'll be quarantining and when he leaves to join the team at a minimum.
 
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New Zealand locked down hard and eradicated Coronavirus.

This week they have had 5 cases, all of them returned travellers in 14 days of mandatory hotel quarantine.

2 brought it in from England.
1 brought it in from Pakistan
2 brought it on from India.

All three countries remain high risk countries.
 
Agree on the front that if he's just coming over for 3 T20s it's not really worth the effort and he might as well stay at home.

You'd have to think though that the chance of him contracting the virus, being asymptomatic and then getting tested (presumably multiple times) and giving multiple false negatives are insanely slim.

I agree that if he gets tested multiple times before going anywhere near the squad then yes, the chances of him infecting the squad will be low. I just hope that is what happens and we don't find he does his 14 days quarantine staying with the squad itself. Are the PCB really going to put him up in a separate hotel away from the players? I sure hope so.

I will be interested to see how the players behave in their free time on this tour. For the World Cup they were constantly out and about, totally unsupervised. Will they really just sit in their hotel rooms this time round?
 
As far as I'm aware a lot of airports are now doing temperature checks. You'd assume the ECB will organise for him to be tested as soon as he arrives at wherever he'll be quarantining and when he leaves to join the team at a minimum.

Temp checks as you and I know will not expose people who are carrying the virus but testing will so yes, PCB will need to be doubly careful with Malik. He could easily destroy the tour of the whole squad if he passes on the infection.
 
I agree that if he gets tested multiple times before going anywhere near the squad then yes, the chances of him infecting the squad will be low. I just hope that is what happens and we don't find he does his 14 days quarantine staying with the squad itself. Are the PCB really going to put him up in a separate hotel away from the players? I sure hope so.

I will be interested to see how the players behave in their free time on this tour. For the World Cup they were constantly out and about, totally unsupervised. Will they really just sit in their hotel rooms this time round?

The quote from Wasim Khan suggest he'll be in accommodation isolated from the rest of the squad.

There was an article recently about the setup for the West Indies at Old Trafford and the ECB had put aside one of the hospitality venues as a bit of a games room with games consoles, table tennis tables, pool tables, golf simulators etc. Presumably it'll be similar at Derby to help keep them entertained for the month.
 
If Malik wants to spend more time with his family then he should retire from international cricket and focus on a few franchise clubs in a year. That way he will be able to spend more time in Dubai with his son.
 
He will fly out from India (presumably) where there has been an upsurge in infections so whilst protocols for Pakistan side are in place, will he also be tested twice in India etc?

All international flights to & from India are stopped right now. only domestic flights allowed
 
All international flights to & from India are stopped right now. only domestic flights allowed

Good point.

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India resuming international flights will depend on other countries being open to receive flights, Union civil aviation minister Hardeep Singh Puri said on Saturday. At the same time, he was hopeful of resuming domestic flights to full capacity by year end.

“Any suggestion that international air traffic has opened up and we are the only ones not to open up needs a reality check. The exact time when we will resume international flights depends on other countries to be open to receive flights,” he said.

India has suspended international passenger flights since March 22, in a bid to contain the spread of Covid- 19.

The minister said that international flights operations depend on airspaces being open and a border acceptance from other countries. “Many countries decided that they were not going to allow nationals from other countries except their own. We also went with the same position,” Puri said.

Giving details the minister said, entry is conditional in the US, UK, France, China, UAE and Singapore. “You cannot have normal civil aviation operations under such conditions,” he added.

The minister added that in the absence of a decision on resumption of international flights, India is left with no option but to continue “evacuation and repatriation” flights under managed and controlled conditions.

He was referring to the government’s initiative in bringing back Indians struck abroad due to Covid-19 pandemic. The Centre had launched the Vande Bharat Mission for this purpose on May 6.

The minister said that till date 275,000 Indians have been brought back to the country - 109,000 have returned via the Centre’s Vande Bharat Mission through the national carrier Air India while 143,000 expatriates have been brought back through private carriers.

The aviation minister said that during the phase 3 and phase 4 of the mission, private domestic airlines have been approved to operate 750 international flights to repatriate people stranded amid the coronavirus pandemic.

The government was constantly trying to expand both domestic and Vande Bharat flights, the minister said, adding that the domestic flight ops would be ramped up.

“At present we have allowed only 33% flights to operate and flights are not operating in full capacity even now. We will open more routes where there is more demand. We are ready to take it to up to even 40-45% capacity, Puri added.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/indi...on-minister/story-f3yrMlstbb1iFFJhLWXOkO.html
 
So where is Shoaib Malik? Not much news about him - supposedly in India?
 
Why? Isnt 22 years long enough for a mediocre career? Would have got more than 3 or 4 years for anyone else?
 
No. he isn't in India.
Watched his Instagram live with Sania Mirza yesterday, he was in Sialkot and Sania was in Hyderabad (India).

Ok so the statement by PCB that he needs to spend time with family is rather lame?
 
Ok so the statement by PCB that he needs to spend time with family is rather lame?

It does seems like. So, what exactly did PCB meant when they said Malik want to spend time with his family. Perhaps Wasim Khan didn’t mentioned FaceTime in his interview.
 
Are international flights allowed from India now? Maybe they will spend a few days in Dubai before he goes to the UK. They do reside there, after all.

People can leave India for sure, however upon re-entering India, Sania and her child will be quarantined at Govt provided facilities(some hotels too) for period of 14 days.
 
Been in Pakistan last few months. His wife and kid have been in India.

PCB Chief Executive Wasim Khan: “Unlike the rest of us, Shoaib Malik has not seen his immediate family for nearly five months due to his commitments and the subsequent international travel bans following the Covid-19 pandemic. As travel restrictions are now slowly easing out and there is an opportunity for a family reunion, it is appropriate that at a human level we show compassion as part of our duty of care and respect Shoaib’s request.

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So Malik is away from the team and away from family as well. Not sure if PCB thought carefully about this. Was this supposed to be just time away from Pakistan side? because to me, same quality time could have been accomplished from England via Instagram etc
 
The departure of Shoaib Malik to England has been delayed until the second week of August after India extended the ban on international flights until 31 July, which, in turn, has delayed a planned family reunion. When Shoaib Malik will join the squad for the T20I series, which starts on 28 August in Manchester, the team management will release a player.
 
Meanwhile, the departure of Shoaib Malik to England has been delayed until the second week of August after India extended the ban on international flights until 31 July, which, in turn, has delayed a planned family reunion. When Shoaib Malik will join the squad for the T20I series, which starts on 28 August in Manchester, the team management will release a player.

Just kick Malik out of the team, why this hassle for 3 IT20s? Why not give youngster a chance instead

Pathetic PCB
 
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The amount of work PCB is doing for Shoaib Malik is honestly disgusting to see. Wondering when they will instill a youngster in.
 
Indeed looks bending a lot.. Should man up and say to Malik will see you in the next series...

It makes you think, what kind of special ability Malik has that will be a difference maker for Pakistan. Until the 5th ODI in 2016, he hadn't crossed 50 against England.

Experience???
 
It makes you think, what kind of special ability Malik has that will be a difference maker for Pakistan. Until the 5th ODI in 2016, he hadn't crossed 50 against England.

Experience???

Lots of experience. He's played 44 matches in England.

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The departure of Shoaib Malik to England has been delayed until the second week of August after India extended the ban on international flights until 31 July, which, in turn, has delayed a planned family reunion. When Shoaib Malik will join the squad for the T20I series, which starts on 28 August in Manchester, the team management will release a player.

This was always known to everyone including PCB that Malik wouldn’t be allowed to enter India anytime soon due to lockdown. I still don’t understand why is PCB going so far to accommodate him?
Lastly, even if Malik travels to India on 1st August, he will be isolated for 14 days away from family(Mandatory isolation) which would mean he won’t have any time left for England tour as he will also be required to isolate in UK.

Complete unprofessional from PCB.
 
This was always known to everyone including PCB that Malik wouldn’t be allowed to enter India anytime soon due to lockdown. I still don’t understand why is PCB going so far to accommodate him?
Lastly, even if Malik travels to India on 1st August, he will be isolated for 14 days away from family(Mandatory isolation) which would mean he won’t have any time left for England tour as he will also be required to isolate in UK.

Complete unprofessional from PCB
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As always. Good for managing gully cricket.
 
As expected this couldnt have happened and now PCB doing gymnastics to get him there!
 
I would play him in England. If he doesn’t play, he will be called for the next series and bully a weaker team in easier conditions and shorter boundaries, right in time to book his place for the 2021 T20 WC.

Play him now, watch him get out in single digits, and close the chapter.
 
Given the T20 world cup is delayed, Malik not being part of current setup would benefit Pakistan cricket the most. Hafeez should actually announce retirement in this England series, this way he would have the opportunity very few Pakistani cricketers have that is a farewell match.
 
Does Malik really need to be part of this tour?

The answer is no.
 
Now that the world T20 is delayed surely we should only be playing youngsters in the series against England?
 
Now that the world T20 is delayed surely we should only be playing youngsters in the series against England?

I believe Malik is part of the future too along with Hafeez. Hopefully they keep performing as we will definitely need their wealth of quality and experience come the 2023 WC.
 
I would play him in England. If he doesn’t play, he will be called for the next series and bully a weaker team in easier conditions and shorter boundaries, right in time to book his place for the 2021 T20 WC.

Play him now, watch him get out in single digits, and close the chapter.

Close the chapter this is Pakistan cricket lol
 
I believe Malik is part of the future too along with Hafeez. Hopefully they keep performing as we will definitely need their wealth of quality and experience come the 2023 WC.

Hahhaa lol
 
I believe Malik is part of the future too along with Hafeez. Hopefully they keep performing as we will definitely need their wealth of quality and experience come the 2023 WC.

Maybe even the 2033 World Cup.
 
Oh the ultimate useless experience, where else we could find it and its not like it ever helped our cause but still experience is experience, doesn't matter how useless it is.
 
Oh the ultimate useless experience, where else we could find it and its not like it ever helped our cause but still experience is experience, doesn't matter how useless it is.

That's the problem. Pak got humiliated by Australia and Misbah felt the pressure thus selected the most senior players.

Then Malik and Hafeez won the BD series for Pakistan becoming untouchable yet again. So the circus continues.

Pak selectors can't bear the pressure after one humiliation. They only think about their own job. Remember Asia cup 2018?
 
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Lahore, 7 August 2020: The PCB is planning to fly-out T20 specialist Shoaib Malik to Southampton on 15 August, provided he returns two negative Covid-19 tests as per the agreed protocols and processes.

Shoaib will be part of the squad for the three T20Is against England, which will be played at Old Trafford, Manchester, on 28 August, 30 August and 1 September.

The PCB had approved Shoaib’s request for delayed departure so that he could spend some time with his family, whom he had not met since the start of the year.

Meanwhile, assistant coach Shahid Aslam will return to Manchester on 8 August. He had arrived in Lahore last week to attend his father’s funeral.
 
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Lahore, 7 August 2020: The PCB is planning to fly-out T20 specialist Shoaib Malik to Southampton on 15 August, provided he returns two negative Covid-19 tests as per the agreed protocols and processes.

Shoaib will be part of the squad for the three T20Is against England, which will be played at Old Trafford, Manchester, on 28 August, 30 August and 1 September.

The PCB had approved Shoaib’s request for delayed departure so that he could spend some time with his family, whom he had not met since the start of the year.

Meanwhile, assistant coach Shahid Aslam will return to Manchester on 8 August. He had arrived in Lahore last week to attend his father’s funeral.

Why is a 40 year old anywhere near the team. This is just awful from Misbah
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Shoaib Malik will arrive in Southampton on 15th August <br><br>Another youngster will be released - Mohammad Musa is to separate from the Pakistan squad on 14th August<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ENGvPAK?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ENGvPAK</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1293842274460282880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 13, 2020</a></blockquote>
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God, if these selectors were in charge back in the day, we’d of never heard of players like Waqar, Akram or Inzi, how can youngsters get experience if they’re not playing regularly for the national team?!
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Shoaib Malik returned a negative COVID-19 test in England. He has now joined the Pakistan squad in Southampton <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ENGvPAK?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ENGvPAK</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1296415254436552705?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
What a shame

My team would be

Babar
Haider Ali
Sarfraz Ahmed
Shadab Khan
Khusdil Shah
Ifthikhar Ahmed
Imad Wasim
Zafar Gohar
3 fast bowlers
 
Please when is he ever gonna retire!? :inti
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My take on the current matter thats going on. <a href="https://twitter.com/iRashidLatif68?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@iRashidLatif68</a> bhai is a very credible & experience legend of Pakistan cricket and brought laurels to the country. These matters should be resolved amicably between these two. <br>If anyone has an issue, they should seek legal remedy. <a href="https://t.co/p8TWlcBK5G">pic.twitter.com/p8TWlcBK5G</a></p>— Shoaib Akhtar (@shoaib100mph) <a href="https://twitter.com/shoaib100mph/status/1296407087635992580?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
I am the biggest Malik fan around but honestly can we just get rid of him at this point??
 
Please when is he ever gonna retire!? :inti

Whenever they get dropped, Pak team gets whitewashed and the chief selector is forced to include them.

Pak got humiliated by Australia and the legendary Malik, Hafeez were back. To make it worse Malik, Hafeez then won us the BD series. Another example is the Asia Cup 2018 humiliation and how Mickey had to accept Hafeez back in the team.

Our youngsters need to step up once the seniors get dropped otherwise it will never end.
 
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Whenever they get dropped, Pak team gets whitewashed and the chief selector is forced to include them.

Pak got humiliated by Australia and the legendary Malik, Hafeez were back. To make it worse Malik, Hafeez then won us the BD series. Another example is the Asia Cup 2018 humiliation and how Mickey had to accept Hafeez back in the team.

Our youngsters need to step up once the seniors get dropped otherwise it will never end.

So are you saying the return of Shoaib is a good thing??:facepalm:He never does anything for us and will be to busy shopping with the wife:13:
 
Whenever they get dropped, Pak team gets whitewashed and the chief selector is forced to include them.

Pak got humiliated by Australia and the legendary Malik, Hafeez were back. To make it worse Malik, Hafeez then won us the BD series. Another example is the Asia Cup 2018 humiliation and how Mickey had to accept Hafeez back in the team.

Our youngsters need to step up once the seniors get dropped otherwise it will never end.

They get dropped against good teams and make comebacks against bad teams. That's the best way to evaluate players.

Malik and Hafeez get dropped because they are old, average, and have a proven track record of performing poorly against good fast bowling. Lets drop them and bring in new players to debut or make there comeback under difficult circumstances. If they fail it means Malik and Hafeez are the best we have.

That's insanity and a recipe for mediocrity!!!
 
So are you saying the return of Shoaib is a good thing??:facepalm:He never does anything for us and will be to busy shopping with the wife:13:

It's quite something that you have managed to change the context of my post. Just described how Pakistani selectors think react to pressure.

Need our youngsters to step up so that it ends for Hafeez, Malik for once and all.
 
They get dropped against good teams and make comebacks against bad teams. That's the best way to evaluate players.

Malik and Hafeez get dropped because they are old, average, and have a proven track record of performing poorly against good fast bowling. Lets drop them and bring in new players to debut or make there comeback under difficult circumstances. If they fail it means Malik and Hafeez are the best we have.

That's insanity and a recipe for mediocrity!!!

There is no long term planning at that level of the PCB. Everyone is looking to avoid media pressure and save their jobs.

Malik and Hafeez are just cashing in. Don't know when we will be rid of them.
 
With all the young T20 talent they have been developing in the PSL, yet they still are bringing in people like Malik last minute. His time is over, move on.
 
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