Shoaib Malik, Sarfraz Ahmed, et al - Pakistan LOI teams is going nowhere with accumulators

[Hawkeye]

This the season where everyone starts praising the new captain and celebrates the team victories by beating the West Indies.

However, most people don't realize one thing.

It is not the 90s. Having single double players, who rely on nudging the ball to score and play an accumulator role in the middle order will NOT help you win limited over matches.

Certainly not against the good sides.


Both our premier batsmen are accumulator purists. It's the same as having equivalent of Fawad Alam in your side - but not just one, rather two.

At times they'll score and nudge to reach 80 strike rate, but don't have the game to take on the bowlers and hit at will, especially can't hit the ball against pacers.

And these are not the only two. Imad, Fakhar aren't great either.

We might be able to beat West Indies, but come Champions Trophy - trust me Pak side is going nowhere with such a batting lineup.

Don't have any high hopes and expect Pakistan to further decline in rankings.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

The t20 team is a write off


Odis could work by dropping some dead weight . Sarfraz and Malik are fine at 4 and 5. People forget Sarfraz's performances against England. In t20s though it is an issue and if he bats at 6.

Need to get Naved Malik a go to open, we know he can tonk a ball
Talat needs to be in the mix, as does Hammad

 

[Pete Rose]

Pakistan has four batsmen that play the same style of game, not two.
Shehzad, babar, Malik, and sarfaraz. Need to get rid of three of these

 

[Pete Rose]

The t20 team is a write off


Odis could work by dropping some dead weight . Sarfraz and Malik are fine at 4 and 5. People forget Sarfraz's performances against England. In t20s though it is an issue and if he bats at 6.

Need to get Naved Malik a go to open, we know he can tonk a ball
Talat needs to be in the mix, as does Hammad

I really dont see how odi team will be better. It's the same rubbish line up

 

[daytrader]

The only solution I see is to get Sarfraz to open, Babar one down and Malik two down. If they come any lower we will never post a competitive total. No other accumulators needed. Everyone else should be told to hit

 

[Hawkeye]

Pakistan has four batsmen that play the same style of game, not two.
Shehzad, babar, Malik, and sarfaraz. Need to get rid of three of these

I really dont see how odi team will be better. It's the same rubbish line up

Yes.

How can I forget the worst of em all Shehzad.

Babar Azam is doing fine I think. Yes his game is not ideal yet, but he's not a one dimensional player.

Shehzad, Malik, Sarfraz, Imad...loool.... Any bowling lineup will be drooling over the thought of strangling this one dimensional batting powerhouse.

I seriously don't know how people can be so deluded and back these guys. Have we not learned the lesson still that YOU CAN'T have such players in LOIs?

I really hope we have to play WC qualifiers to give us a reality check.

Random win against weaker sides makes us forget everything. Come an ICC tournament or a series aginst a good side, we get thrashed.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

I really dont see how odi team will be better. It's the same rubbish line up

Not this odi team, but moving forward i think it can be an okay team. Yes Sarfraz and Babar are acummaltors, but they arent Misbah/azhar style accumaltors, they can keep in up at a far better pace. In odis they have luxury of not having to go from ball one

Sarfraz if he bats at 4 can be a good player, his strike is consistent, doesnt go up or down. In odis he can survive like that.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Shehzad, Malik and Fakhar out. Talat, Haris(ODIs) and Umar in.

 

[Hawkeye]

Shehzad, Malik and Fakhar out. Talat, Haris(ODIs) and Umar in.

Talat is need of the hour .

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Yes.

How can I forget the worst of em all Shehzad.

Babar Azam is doing fine I think. Yes his game is not ideal yet, but he's not a one dimensional player.

Shehzad, Malik, Sarfraz, Imad...loool.... Any bowling lineup will be drooling over the thought of strangling this one dimensional batting powerhouse.

I seriously don't know how people can be so deluded and back these guys. Have we not learned the lesson still that YOU CAN'T have such players in LOIs?

I really hope we have to play WC qualifiers to give us a reality check.

Random win against weaker sides makes us forget everything. Come an ICC tournament or a series aginst a good side, we get thrashed.

You are underselling Sarfraz in odis, yes he lacks power, but batting at 4 he is fine, he helped you chase 300 against Eng, which for this team is a minor miracle

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Shehzad, Malik and Fakhar out. Talat, Haris(ODIs) and Umar in.

Haris is another accumaltor, i like the guy to bits, he is need in tests, but not yet in odis

 

[Hawkeye]

You are underselling Sarfraz in odis, yes he lacks power, but batting at 4 he is fine, he helped you chase 300 against Eng, which for this team is a minor miracle

Well he's the captain so we're stuck with him for years.

He has a role to play if we have good hitters playing around him. And can do decently in ODIs during middle overs only.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Well he's the captain so we're stuck with him for years.

He has a role to play if we have good hitters playing around him. And can do decently in ODIs during middle overs only.

He isnt a liablity in odis thats what you make it sounds like. Do not let personal likes cloud your views. If he bats at 6 i will rage, if he bats at 4 he will be fine

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Cant understand what makes Sarfraz think that he can bat at 6/7.
He should bat at 4 in odis and not below than 4 in t20s. He is the best captain in Pakistan and we really need him but he needs to change his bating position in t20s especially. Not this no 6/7 where he is coming this series.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Haris is another accumaltor, i like the guy to bits, he is need in tests, but not yet in odis

Haris has already proven himself in ODIs. He can easily play run a ball cricket. You need technically correct batsmen at 3-4 in ODIs that get you through tough periods. Can't have sweepers, legside hacks occupying these spots. 1-2 and 5-6 should be your free flowing batsmen.

 

[Hawkeye]

He isnt a liablity in odis thats what you make it sounds like. Do not let personal likes cloud your views. If he bats at 6 i will rage, if he bats at 4 he will be fine

He's not ideal but he is acceptable at 4 in ODIs. No place in t20s.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Haris has already proven himself in ODIs. He can easily play run a ball cricket. You need technically correct batsmen at 3-4 in ODIs that get you through tough periods. Can't have sweepers, legside hacks occupying these spots. 1-2 and 5-6 should be your free flowing batsmen.

Yes he proven himself, and in his absence Babar took his spot. Its harsh but thats life. Sarfraz is more than compact enough to bat at 4 in odis, and he has had succes recently. Its him batting at 6 which is an issue, rather have one of talat/hammad there, with Naveed Malik up top

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

He's not ideal but he is acceptable at 4 in ODIs. No place in t20s.

Yeah he is not ideal if we compare ourselves to a top team, but compared to what we have he gets in easily. dont be so begrudging about it.

In t20s i agree, his spot shouldnt be in iron. Personally im just writing off the t20 team, i see no hope, even the alternatives arent enough to turn it around

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Yes he proven himself, and in his absence Babar took his spot. Its harsh but thats life. Sarfraz is more than compact enough to bat at 4 in odis, and he has had succes recently. Its him batting at 6 which is an issue, rather have one of talat/hammad there, with Naveed Malik up top

Sarfaraz will not last against top bowling attacks at 4. When you build a team, the mindset should be on how they will fare against the best.

 

[Hawkeye]

Between Haris and Sarfraz for 4, dude it's not a comparison at all.

Do you really think someone like Sarfraz can match a stroke maker and free flowing bat like Haris Sohail?

 

[Markhor]

I hope Hussain Talat and Saad Ali impress in this Pakistan Cup, with SRs of 89 and 86 respectively they seem like the free flowing batsmen we need.

But can't go on numbers alone, need to have a closer look at their techniques and range of shots.

Don't want to see Shehzad or Fakhar in the LOI team going forward.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Sarfaraz will not last against top bowling attacks at 4. When you build a team, the mindset should be on how they will fare against the best.

How can you really be so sure of that. He has a relatively compact defence and did great against England which included a guy in mark wood bowling 150 +

He also did well against Australia in odis in the past

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

I hope Hussain Talat and Saad Ali impress in this Pakistan Cup, with SRs of 89 and 86 respectively they seem like the free flowing batsmen we need.

But can't just go on number, need to have a closer look at their techniques and range of shots.

Don't want to see Shehzad or Fakhar in the LOI team going forward.

Saad is another accumaltor, one for the future , but no needed yet

 

[Chief Destroyer]

How can you really be so sure of that. He has a relatively compact defence and did great against England which included a guy in mark wood bowling 150 +

He also did well against Australia in odis in the past

Most of his runs were scored in the middle overs against spin. He was bogged down against pace. Babar and Haris are the only two who have compact defence but can also put away good deliveries for four. They will make a solid 3-4. There's no need to look elsewhere.

 

[Pete Rose]

Let me put this out there so that ppl may ridicule me for this. Sarfaraz ahmed will be a serious liability for the limited overs teams by the end of champions trophy

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Sarfraz should come to bat when the spinners are bowling and 4 is the position when they usually come to bowl in odis. Haris and Babar are much better players of fast bowling but Sarfraz is better against spin.

In an ideal scenario my top 4 would be:
Sharjeel
Babar
Haris
Sarfraz

 

[Hawkeye]

Let me put this out there so that ppl may ridicule me for this. Sarfaraz ahmed will be a serious liability for the limited overs teams by the end of champions trophy

Called it back when he was made captain.

Knives will be out for him, people calling for his head in 1-2 years.

Of course, his fan base will ridicule us for now.

 

[Pete Rose]

Not this odi team, but moving forward i think it can be an okay team. Yes Sarfraz and Babar are acummaltors, but they arent Misbah/azhar style accumaltors, they can keep in up at a far better pace. In odis they have luxury of not having to go from ball one

Sarfraz if he bats at 4 can be a good player, his strike is consistent, doesnt go up or down. In odis he can survive like that.

And I am saying that if you want these 2 play you need to remove the other 2

 

[Hawkeye]

Sarfraz should come to bat when the spinners are bowling and 4 is the position when they usually come to bowl in odis. Haris and Babar are much better players of fast bowling but Sarfraz is better against spin.

In an ideal scenario my top 4 would be:
Sharjeel
Babar
Haris
Sarfraz

Sorry. Why should we hide him from pacers?

Why not play a good stroke maker like Haris who is good both against spinners and pace at #4?

 

[Pete Rose]

Called it back when he was made captain.

Knives will be out for him, people calling for his head in 1-2 years.

Of course, his fan base will ridicule us for now.

His test form is a on a downward direction. I have nothing against him, but if he wants to survive he needs to chuck out the drivel : Hafeez, Malik, shehzad and even akmal

 

[Abdullah719]

Let me put this out there so that ppl may ridicule me for this. Sarfaraz ahmed will be a serious liability for the limited overs teams by the end of champions trophy

Only one of Sarfraz and Malik should be in the team, ideally. I think the latter's spot will be under scrutiny sooner than Sarfraz.

 

[Pete Rose]

Only one of Sarfraz and Malik should be in the team, ideally. I think the latter's spot will be under scrutiny sooner than Sarfraz.

Yes, but if sarfaraz wants to survive (i.e. Win more games) Malik is not his only problem. He needs to get rid Malik, Hafeez, akmal , shehzad

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Sorry. Why should we hide him from pacers?

Why not play a good stroke maker like Haris who is good both against spinners and pace at #4?

He is the best captain in Pakistan and we have to utilize the maximum of him as a batsman too which is no 4 position. Sharjeel and Babar will be a very good opening combo and Haris at 3 will be great aswell. Sarfraz can play at 120 SR against spinners which Haris cannot so its better to utilize Sarfi the most against spin.

 

[Abdullah719]

Yes, but if sarfaraz wants to survive (i.e. Win more games) Malik is not his only problem. He needs to get rid Malik, Hafeez, akmal , shehzad

It would be a miracle if he can get rid of all of them.

 

[Black Zero]

Both player plays with a higher RR, which means that if these players are performing then 270/280 is very gettable.

 

[Hawkeye]

It would be a miracle if he can get rid of all of them.

Not really. Anwar Ali and Shafiq are next in line for selection.

He's not letting Shadab bat for heaven's sake.

 

[Pakpak]

Yes, but if sarfaraz wants to survive (i.e. Win more games) Malik is not his only problem. He needs to get rid Malik, Hafeez, akmal , shehzad

You're right. But sadly Akmal, Malik and Hafeez are a recurring problem. Shehzad is easier to get rid off.

 

[Hawkeye]

Both player plays with a higher RR, which means that if these players are performing then 270/280 is very gettable.

And that precisely is 90s mentality.

Fill the team with Fawad Alams and they'll consistently make 250-270 in ODIs. They all play at similar strike rates.

 

[ethan hunt]

Much bigger problems than sarfraz and malik.
Sohail freakin tanvir is the designated big hitter.
Sarfraz and malik have been pretty consistent of late tbf.

 

[Abdullah719]

Not really. Anwar Ali and Shafiq are next in line for selection.

He's not letting Shadab bat for heaven's sake.

Sarfraz is not the Chief Selector.

Let's stick to factual discussion rather than theories.

 

[Black Zero]

And that precisely is 90s mentality.

Fill the team with Fawad Alams and they'll consistently make 250-270 in ODIs. They all play at similar strike rates.

There is a big difference between 250-270 and 270-280.

 

[Obstructing_the_field]

Disagree with the thread... def shahzad needs to go but not sarfraz babar or malik.. what we dont realise is that sarfraz and malik r seriously good against spinners and thats the time they shld be coming in...

Also PLZ STOP thinking abt the useless Akmal brothers

 

[aloo paratha]

For T20s yes, but those who are saying that we can't have this for ODIs are just talking stupid, no team plays one accumulator and the rest sloggers in ODIs...

 

[Square Drive]

Both are batting at #5 and #6 (today Sarfraz was at #7!) in T20Is which is absolutely unacceptable.

Malik at #4 and Sarfraz at #5 still works, with Shadab at #6. Unfortunately we have to accomodate Shehzad and Akmal as well.

 

[Square Drive]

Same for ODIs.

Shoaib at #4 and Sarfraz at #5 works for now, until Haris gets his touch back.

 

[aloo paratha]

Lol people going OTT saying Sarfrazx and Malik are the issue, the real issue is that we have the batting lineuo all wrong. We''re playing an ODI XI in a T20. Babar ( Babar himself needs to play better) needs to open with Fakhar, Sarfraz would be perfect at 3, when you send him at 6, he can't do much. Malik at 4

It's not so much the players who are the problem, it's when they're coming at the crease

 

[Hawkeye]

Both are batting at #5 and #6 (today Sarfraz was at #7!) in T20Is which is absolutely unacceptable.

Malik at #4 and Sarfraz at #5 still works, with Shadab at #6. Unfortunately we have to accomodate Shehzad and Akmal as well.

This is the kind of mentality that has made us minnows in lois.

Can't progress as long as such mentality people are in the PCB.

Thanks for describing what the problem is with us.

 

[Square Drive]

This is the kind of mentality that has made us minnows in lois.

Can't progress as long as such mentality people are in the PCB.

Thanks for describing what the problem is with us.

Yeah let's play Kamran Akmal, Umar Akmal, and Adnan Akmal from #3-5.

If I was to describe what the problem is with you it would take me a whole day, starting off with double standards and favouritism.

 

[The cricket enthusiast]

Same for ODIs.

Shoaib at #4 and Sarfraz at #5 works for now, until Haris gets his touch back.

yea ppers need to move on from haris.
he cant score run a ball against associate teams.
he will get injured again till he get his touch back.

 

[Hawkeye]

Yeah let's play Kamran Akmal, Umar Akmal, and Adnan Akmal from #3-5.

If I was to describe what the problem is with you it would take me a whole day, starting off with double standards and favouritism.

Where did Adnan come in from?

Kami is our best batsman on this tour, was our best bat in the PSL. Why are you bitter? Oh, I guess it's because Malik and Sarf and other accumulators are failing?

Umar is needed for hitting. Your 80s team cannot hit. Realize it's 2017 and cricket has changed.

 

[Square Drive]

Where did Adnan come in from?

Kami is our best batsman on this tour, was our best bat in the PSL. Why are you bitter? Oh, I guess it's because Malik and Sarf and other accumulators are failing?

Umar is needed for hitting. Your 80s team cannot hit. Realize it's 2017 and cricket has changed.

From the same disgraceful family.

Our best batsman this tour has been Malik, don't be blind.

Sarfraz has been failing because he cannot slog and so anywhere below #5, he has no business. Now obviously the captain CAN'T be dropped and so I'd bat him at 5.

Huge Umar fan but the guy who's not even fit should not be in the team.

Bitter because my team lost. I don't gain happiness from my favorites performing well if my team loses.

 

[Pete Rose]

yea ppers need to move on from haris.
he cant score run a ball against associate teams.
he will get injured again till he get his touch back.

Yup, Haris is done. He will get a charity secelction and will get inured promptly and then news will leak about how it's the fault of the pcb medical staff.

 

[PakLFC]

We are still in 90's mode. This can be seen when our openers and run rate are compared with rest of the world. Don't know anything of Pak's domestic scene but we certainly need some power hitters in the team. How Shahzad keeps being picked tells me either there is a lack of talent or he has political connections.

 

[Rayyman]

There are no replacements. Whoever is being named, is not ready yet.

 

[dildildalwalla]

If Malik isn't bowling then he shouldn't be playing. Kamran Akmal has done ok but his age does not suit a team looking to the future.

The problem is, watching the PSL, I saw a lot of spin talent, some decent enough "pace" bowlers BUT there weren't any great hitters. Zaman did well and got some big shots in but he isn't being used properly. Other than that, who is there? Babar is fine as an ODI batsman, may make a terrific test bat too but in t20s, unless he learn to rotate the strike better, going at 110-120 isn't going to cut it. The same goes for Sarfraz, who honestly should not be indispensable.

 

[KhalidRafi]

They're two of the best we've got in ODI's. Malik's SR in the 80's may not be great but it's decent even for today's standards. And both Malik and Sarfraz are hardly accumulators. Players like Shafiq, Azhar, even Babar at the start of most of his innings are accumulators. Also, average matters alot. And Malik has consistently averaged over 50 since his return to the side, he averaged 69 in Australia. Likewise, Sarfraz averaged 60 in England with a SR of 91. Wouldn't call him an accumulator.

You can't realistically compare players like Sarfraz and Malik to modern day LOI greats. They're just on a completely different level. But for Pakistan standards these two are two of our most important players going into the 2019 WC.

I don't really care about T20is. The team can continue to find good players time and time again through the PSL and the success or failure of one particular player likely won't have alot of bearing on the future of the team and accumulators will eventually be dispensed with. Whereas, in ODIs it's necessary for us to decide a stable combination going into CT and 2019 WC.

 

[KhalidRafi]

It doesn't matter how many changes we make this team simply is not as good as any of the Top 5. Both in terms of talent and ability. SA, England, India and Australia are just in another league. And even if Pakistan do find good talent it'll take years to groom and turn them into good international players. But at the same time, I don't think we're going to drop in the rankings because Bangladesh and Sri Lanka are either just as bad as us or worse than us. And I can easily see Pakistan rising to 6 or 7 in the coming years. Anything higher than that would be very, very tough.

 

[Mamoon]

Accumulator Malik taking the team to 300 from what looked like a 250 at one stage.

 

[ataullah]

Accumulator Malik taking the team to 300 from what looked like a 250 at one stage.

Did well but its club level bowling let's be honest. Any decent level bowling and he's back to accumulator.

 

[godzilla]

the side is sorely lacking in talent in fairness, and its not really fair to solely blame the selections - what talent is being left out that is a power hitter?

sarfraz has been very disappointing in the limited over format of late, and so the tail starts once five wickets are down. looks like no matter how much we cry about it, there just isnt the raw materials on the batting side to compete effectively on the big stage of you're two batting trump cards are Malik and kakmal.

today was a good example, Shehzad, hafeez to some degree and then that tail from sarfraz onwards - its not international level batting by a long stretch.

Babar gets a pass at this point, but he's going to have to come to the party again soon, otherwise the pressure will start to formulate, and those three hundreds will be seen as possible flukey purple patch hundreds.

 

[Mamoon]

Did well but its club level bowling let's be honest. Any decent level bowling and he's back to accumulator.

Will still perform better than others. As will Sarfraz, but our friend here thinks these two are holding the team back.

 

[Mamoon]

the side is sorely lacking in talent in fairness, and its not really fair to solely blame the selections - what talent is being left out that is a power hitter?

sarfraz has been very disappointing in the limited over format of late, and so the tail starts once five wickets are down. looks like no matter how much we cry about it, there just isnt the raw materials on the batting side to compete effectively on the big stage of you're two batting trump cards are Malik and kakmal.

today was a good example, Shehzad, hafeez to some degree and then that tail from sarfraz onwards - its not international level batting by a long stretch.

Babar gets a pass at this point, but he's going to have to come to the party again soon, otherwise the pressure will start to formulate, and those three hundreds will be seen as possible flukey purple patch hundreds.

Sarfraz has done very well in ODIs starting from 2016, but he is not a T20 player. Both him and Malik are the least of our worries in ODIs for now.

 

[Hawkeye]

Did well but its club level bowling let's be honest. Any decent level bowling and he's back to accumulator.

He's been fooling the public after his come back.

Not just that, this goes back to 1999 and been 18 years since it's happening.

Malik is not alone though. We have Sarfraz, Shehzad, Imad Wasim and to some extent Hafeez too.

4 of our core players are those who cannot play the modern game. They recently got thrashed in Australia.

Fooling the public against minnows will not hide them from a good opposition or even Bangladesh on decent batting pitches.

We don't learn anything. These guys are going to embarrass us again in ICC tournaments.

 

[Hawkeye]

Will still perform better than others. As will Sarfraz, but our friend here thinks these two are holding the team back.

You cannot have too many same type one dimensional players . It's not Test matches. There's a reason we're weaker than Bangladesh.

Malik, Sarfraz, Shehzad, Imad. - your core is accumulating one dimensional players.

You can only have Babar Azam and Sarf because he's a keeper.

 

[Mamoon]

You cannot have too many same type one dimensional players . It's not Test matches. There's a reason we're weaker than Bangladesh.

Malik, Sarfraz, Shehzad, Imad. - your core is accumulating one dimensional players.

You can only have Babar Azam and Sarf because he's a keeper.

You can't, but dynamic hitters don't grow on trees. We don't have them in Pakistan, and the PSL showed that. A 40 year old Afridi outshone every Pakistani domestic talent when it came to power-hitting. These players are the best we've got under the circumstances.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

both Sarfraz and Malik v.2 are team players.

team players over selfish players any day of the week.

 

[Hawkeye]

You can't, but dynamic hitters don't grow on trees. We don't have them in Pakistan, and the PSL showed that. A 40 year old Afridi outshone every Pakistani domestic talent when it came to power-hitting. These players are the best we've got under the circumstances.

The issue is, selectors and domestic coaches are not searching for the dynamic players either.

There needs to be a nationwide call sent to every coach to scout players who can clear the fence esp against pace.

They need to be called to NCA and tested there against our intl bowlers.

You'll unearth at least 2 to 3 genuine modern batsmen.

 

[Mamoon]

The issue is, selectors and domestic coaches are not searching for the dynamic players either.

There needs to be a nationwide call sent to every coach to scout players who can clear the fence esp against pace.

They need to be called to NCA and tested there against our intl bowlers.

You'll unearth at least 2 to 3 genuine modern batsmen.

Talent hunts don't do anything. You have to improve the setup.

 

[super hitter]

He's been fooling the public after his come back.

Not just that, this goes back to 1999 and been 18 years since it's happening.

Malik is not alone though. We have Sarfraz, Shehzad, Imad Wasim and to some extent Hafeez too.

4 of our core players are those who cannot play the modern game. They recently got thrashed in Australia.

Fooling the public against minnows will not hide them from a good opposition or even Bangladesh on decent batting pitches.

We don't learn anything. These guys are going to embarrass us again in ICC tournaments.

[MENTION=137148]Rayyman[/MENTION] [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION]

Most of the Malik haters nowadays are actually Hafeez supporters.

He always misses out Hafeez in that list and has been for long known as a Hafeez supporter.

 

[super hitter]

You cannot have too many same type one dimensional players . It's not Test matches. There's a reason we're weaker than Bangladesh.

Malik, Sarfraz, Shehzad, Imad. - your core is accumulating one dimensional players.

You can only have Babar Azam and Sarf because he's a keeper.

yOU'RE making my blood boil by missing Hafeez in each post, and stop saying that Malik (100+ SR) is the same as babar, shezzy

 

[Syed1]

yOU'RE making my blood boil by missing Hafeez in each post, and stop saying that Malik (100+ SR) is the same as babar, shezzy

Lol relax.


You are taking the opinion of [MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] far too seriously. He rates the Akmals and Hafeez quite highly.

 

[super hitter]

Lol relax.


You are taking the opinion of [MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] far too seriously. He rates the Akmals and Hafeez quite highly.

Basically a Hafeez fanatic

 

[Hawkeye]

[MENTION=136528]super hitter[/MENTION]

Well, your username certainly is a complete opposite of what your taste in cricket is.

Hafeez is bad too and part of the problem, but not as bad as others. He can play pace, and is a free flowing bat when he's scoring. Not limited in ability.

 

[super hitter]

[MENTION=136528]super hitter[/MENTION]

Well, your username certainly is a complete opposite of what your taste in cricket is.

Hafeez is bad too and part of the problem, but not as bad as others. He can play pace, and is a free flowing bat when he's scoring. Not limited in ability.

Completely disagree,

Hafeez of today is completely different from Hafeez of 2 years ago(our best bat) !

Unlike Malik, He has failed to reform his skills because with time people loose there...

 

[Hawkeye]

LOLLL.

Now, West Indies is showing Pakistan how to bat in LOIs!!!! They're a truly deserving side to win today.

Look guys, you can blindly worship all these favorite accumulators of yours. No matter how many stats you pull out and say 'but but but he takes singles doubles every ball".

The reality is, such limited players have no place in today's limited overs cricket.

I sincerely hope West Indies shows us what we're worth of today. They already have actually - came very close to victory.

You can't even imagine what is waiting for us ahead with all these players in the side!

 

[Hawkeye]

People.

THIS IS HOW YO BAT at in the death overs!! Not how Malik, Sarfraz and Imad Wasim bats! The single double machine and totally clueless against pace.

 

[Abdullah719]

People.

THIS IS HOW YO BAT at in the death overs!! Not how Malik, Sarfraz and Imad Wasim bats! The single double machine and totally clueless against pace.

No one said that the likes of Malik and Sarfraz are superb finishers who will smash death bowlers for sixes.

Do you have any suggestions?

 

[Hawkeye]

No one said that the likes of Malik and Sarfraz are superb finishers who will smash death bowlers for sixes.

Do you have any suggestions?

Scout the heck out of regional cricket. And those not being given a proper chance at departmental cricket.

Call them to NCA, put them under trial, and 100% you'll uncover good hitters against pace.

This is NOT happening. Inzi, domestic coaches, do NOT prioritize hitters.

 

[Hawkeye]

The fans of these players will hate Hawkeye no doubt.

But the reality check will come back and bite them. It's better for Pak cricket the sooner we realize this and boot out 'strike rotator' type batsmen.

You cannot have more than 2 strike rotators. One is Babar Azam, only 1 more can be afforded.

 

[BD-fan]

Only those who can find a fault who scores a 50+ with a 139 SR.