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Should Abid Ali be included in Pakistan's 2019 World Cup squad?

Should Abid Ali be included in Pakistan's 2019 World Cup squad?

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Done a great job with the bat in the 4th ODI and his batting is showing many other established players how its done.

But at 31, is it too late for him? Should Pakistan take him to the World Cup?
 
Fakhar Zaman
Abid Ali
Imam Ul Haq

Babar Azam
Mohammad Rizwan
Mohammed Hafeez
Haris Sohail
Saad Ali

Sarfraz Ahmed

Imad Wasim
Shadab Khan

Hasan Ali
Shaheen Afridi
Junaid Khan
Mohammad Amir
 
AFM said:
Fakhar Zaman
Abid Ali
Imam Ul Haq

Babar Azam
Mohammad Rizwan
Mohammed Hafeez
Haris Sohail
Saad Ali

Sarfraz Ahmed

Imad Wasim
Shadab Khan

Hasan Ali
Shaheen Afridi
Junaid Khan
Mohammad Amir
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Could not agree more however we might see Malik there instead of Hafeez if he isn’t recovered until the WC.
 
MenInG said:
Done a great job with the bat in the 4th ODI and his batting is showing many other established players how its done.

But at 31, is it too late for him? Should Pakistan take him to the World Cup?
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Sure take Abid Ali in place of Shan Masood. Even a wooden stool is better Shan Masood.

He is not that Old In test side we have likes of Asad Shafiq and Shan Masood who can be replaced.
 
Whether he goes to the word cup or not, age should not be a factor. It is not like our other 'youngsters' are much younger than him. Haris is almost 31, Shaan is 29, Fakhar is 29, Imad is 30. Might as well give him a chance than select a 28 year old 'youngster' who will take 3 years to settle down.
 
Definitely. And should get a place too. We badly needed a right handed opener who looked solid at the crease. It's worth the risk even if he has only played a few games.

I think this is the XI for the WC so far now:

1. Abid Ali
2. Fakhar
3. Babar
4. Rizwan
5. Sarfraz
6. Hafeez/Asif Ali (if Hafeez is fit and in form, him)
7. Imad
8. Shadab
9. Amir/Junaid
10. Hasan
11. Shaheen

While I think Abid should definitely play, Imam and Rizwan are up for grabs. If Fakhar still must open and can't play 4 pr 3, then unfortunately Imam misses out. Haris could play over Rizwan but I don't think we can afford to play both Imam and Haris. And Rizwan shouldn't really play lower than 4. Have doubts over Rizwan, especially in the past but he has a century and now this innings is very good. Umar hasn't done enough, and Haris despite scoring big, there are concerns about his SR/ability to up the rate, especially if he has to play 4 or below.
 
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AFM said:
Fakhar Zaman
Abid Ali
Imam Ul Haq

Babar Azam
Mohammad Rizwan
Mohammed Hafeez
Haris Sohail
Saad Ali

Sarfraz Ahmed

Imad Wasim
Shadab Khan

Hasan Ali
Shaheen Afridi
Junaid Khan
Mohammad Amir
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dont like Imam as 3rd opener; he will use his bhanja credits to become 2nd opener after Fakhar and displace poor Abid; Imam should be out of the squad so that Pakistan playing 11 can be selected on merit
 
Missed the game today but just watched the highlights - wow , Abid Ali - what a gem ! where has this guy been hiding ???

With the exception of Babar Azam maybe, not seen a Pakistani batsman play strokes with such style and quality since Saaed Anwar and Mohammed Yusuf - and I would have said the same if he was out after 25..

First impressions and this might be a bold statement but this guy looks a class above the likes of Shan, Imam and Fakhar as a batsman, he batted the way 'proper' batsmen used to bat back in the day - and 31 is not old for a batsman at all, guys like Matthew Hayden made their comeback and established themselves as great batsmen when they were into their 30s.
 
Yeah. Shan unfortunately failed this series, even though I would prefer him over Imam right now. With that being said Abid should be the third opener in the world cup.
 
Yes. Shan has not performed well and even though its only one game, Abid rotated the strike so well.
 
Age is definitely no factor Misbah was still playing in his 40s he looked better than Imam and Shan has failed too if he played the first 3 matches a different result was possible.
 
I have zero care for the outcome of this series. This is the first time we have had true rotation.

We have formed our core of the batting unit

Fakhar
Abid Ali
Babar
Haris
 
srh said:
dont like Imam as 3rd opener; he will use his bhanja credits to become 2nd opener after Fakhar and displace poor Abid; Imam should be out of the squad so that Pakistan playing 11 can be selected on merit
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for world cup bhatija has to play well against england first
 
Actually I'm not looking at Abid as the third opener, because Hafeez can open if needed. However, I'm looking at Abid as the secoy Wicket keeper because he looked more compact than Rizwan and plays fast bowling really well.
 
Could be, but it's risking to unsettle the squad (starting XI) more. IMAM will start in WC, and he doesn't need to bother for SR - what he needs is to score a 60+ to justify his spot for 9 games; so the risk is either they'll drop Fakhar (Hafeez & Malik can't be dropped - it's blasphemous, they have experience) ......or worse could be that they'll drop one of the 2 spin all-rounders, plan to bowl 10 overs by Hafeez, Malik, Fakhar and push Babar one slot down, or play Abid at 4.

I wonder people haven't known Inzamam still, after 4 years of Captaincy, he has almost 3 years as CS ........ how long should it require? Think before what you are asking for.
 
Remember Akmal, Jamshed and a few others?

I don't know why are we so fickle.

When you first come on the scene, opposition doesn't know your weaknesses, because you are new. Now they will analyze him, work out a game plan against him, and then it will be his true test.

After he passes the test, then you can consider him as a World Cup candidate.

Hitting a century should not be the only litmus test to get a WC ticket.

If that's the case, Akmal is in line to score one, in the final ODI, to cement his WC spot.
 
Yes defo

My squad would be

Abid ali
Imaam ul haq
Fakhar


Babar azam
Rizwan
Sarfraz
Muhammed hafeez
Asif ali
Harris sohail

Imad waseem
Shadab
Fahim ashraf


Hassan ali
Shaheen
Junaid
 
What non sense, Pakistan cricket was built on nepotism, long before the latest torch bearer of nepotism we had been blessed with a long and rich history of individuals who were not blotted with the egregious evil of merit. From Kardar to Javed Burki to Haseeb Ahsan to Majid Khan to Imran, followed by Raja brothers and the list goes.

So why the evil purveyor of merit Abid Ali break the very essence on which we've been the best and most dominant cricketing nation of all time.

Soon the shining light and future past and present of Pakistan cricket Imam Ulhaq will feel better and will return to the starting lineup and the likes of Abid Ali should be kicked out forever, how dare they egregiously expose our rich cricketing history.
 
If you want a 'proper' batsman for English conditions in your ranks, then Abid Ali is the answer.

His shelf life is limited due to his age so we should make use of his form.
 
Don’t think his age is relevant to the World Cup discussion and yes he should be on the plane.

And we should also thank Imam for sitting out with a fever and giving Abid a chance
 
MenInG said:
If you want a 'proper' batsman for English conditions in your ranks, then Abid Ali is the answer.

His shelf life is limited due to his age so we should make use of his form.
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My thoughts exactly, only time will tell if he has what it takes to make the best out of his ability but after watching his first five scoring shots , you can tell that as a batsman this guy is a class above the other pretenders that Pakistan have tried in recent years.

To be successful you need talent but also desire and motivation, and that applies to any field — don’t know about his desire and motivation and how hard he is willing to work, but that innings yesterday was from a batsman blessed with special talent. I repeat again, talent comparable to Mohammed Yusuf or Saeed Anwar, not your Umar Akmal or Ahmed Shezad kind of talent.
 
If he does good tomorrow. Would be confusing if he fails tomorrow
 
Dr_Bassim said:
Remember Akmal, Jamshed and a few others?

I don't know why are we so fickle.

When you first come on the scene, opposition doesn't know your weaknesses, because you are new. Now they will analyze him, work out a game plan against him, and then it will be his true test.

After he passes the test, then you can consider him as a World Cup candidate.

Hitting a century should not be the only litmus test to get a WC ticket.

If that's the case, Akmal is in line to score one, in the final ODI, to cement his WC spot.
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Bro you can have my word for it (:p) that Abid will be a better player than the ones you mentioned above.

I have seen him in domestic too and he has scored with good technique. Also his record on one of the most toughest pitch of Pakistan (Diamond ground Islamabad) as an opener and against decent bowlers is quite good. He only needs some regular chances!
 
Dr_Bassim said:
Remember Akmal, Jamshed and a few others?

I don't know why are we so fickle.

When you first come on the scene, opposition doesn't know your weaknesses, because you are new. Now they will analyze him, work out a game plan against him, and then it will be his true test.

After he passes the test, then you can consider him as a World Cup candidate.

Hitting a century should not be the only litmus test to get a WC ticket.

If that's the case, Akmal is in line to score one, in the final ODI, to cement his WC spot.
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Not only Abid Ali hit a century on debut, he has validated his strong domestic record by doing so. He gets in the team on pure merit. Just because you do not follow the domestic circuit doesn't mean he is being judged on the basis of 1 innings only.
 
Tbh the thing i liked more about his innings yesterday than his 100 is that he has a strong technique. His cover drives were amazing to watch
 
Fakhar, Imam, Abid

3 openers.

Shahzad as injury replacement
 
I was only following on Cricbuzz so I can't comment too much, but what I did observe was that he ran lots of 1's and 2's, and rotated the strike well.
 
A bit too early ..he has one game left then the pakistan cup where he should keep aswell just incase
 
Yes. Shan Masood has fallen out of the reckoning with a poor series.

I'd start Abid ahead of Imam who consumes too many dots in the PP overs.
 
I don't know why so many people put only 4 fast bowlers in their squads apart from Fahim. WC is a long tournament. Each team has to play 9 group matches atleast. So I think there should be 5 fast bowlers in the squad apart from a fast bowling all-rounder
 
SarfiBabarHaris said:
Bro you can have my word for it (:p) that Abid will be a better player than the ones you mentioned above.

I have seen him in domestic too and he has scored with good technique. Also his record on one of the most toughest pitch of Pakistan (Diamond ground Islamabad) as an opener and against decent bowlers is quite good. He only needs some regular chances!
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I am not doubting his ability.

I am just being reserved, which is quite sensible seeing EVERY new batsmen is considered to be THE REAL DEAL in Pakistan.

He's 31 anyways.

His peak is this time and a few years here and there.
 
Even if he does not play as opener , there is a good chance some batsman will get injured so he needs to be in the squad for WC
 
He played a great knock yesterday and looked at home in international cricket. Is he a late bloomer? I mean looking at his stats his domestic record is nothing to write home about - especially his strike rate.
 
He is not needed and there isn't space for him

The opener position is already filled by Fakhar and Imam, one of them fails, you then bring in Hafeez

ANd Rizwan wil be part of the squad aswell he is needed and has performed well.

Also, its the world cup, not a series, 5 fast bowlers will be in the squad.

The only way Abid gets a spot is if Imad Waseem gets dropped or even Mohammad Hafeez or if they snub Mohammad Rizwan (which would be a foolish move)

And while Abid played a great innings, its still a big risk. Hes a new player, he could be a hit or miss, no need to take a risk in the world cup when we already have a decent squad that is performing.

Also another thing, our upper and middle order arn't evena problem, the problem is the lower order with no finisher.
Mickey Arthu made a mistake of not trying out Asif Ali here, the reason why we have lost to Australia is due to lack of a Asif Ali type player. Even our main squad doesn't have a player who could finish the game.

And looking at the squad, its difficult to even add a player like Asif Ali, there isnt much space.

You could say Rizwans 2 centuries have ruined it for everyone.

I will also add that if Shan Masood performs, i would even consider him. The guy has a mighty list A avg and is experienced aswell.

Abid Ali could be on the reserves list, but taking him to the WOrld Cup at this type is just foolish
 
Abid Ali looks full of class player and confidence; would be great addition to Pak's World Cup Squad.
 
If there is an open spot, bring in Iftikhar, we need a finisher, Abid ALi is a good option if Hafeez doesnt make it in time
 
No. We need to boost the middle order. Imam, Fakhar, Babar are pretty much locked and fidgeting with them will only make things worse. Haris might get picked on the basis of this series. And Asif will get the nod over Akmal, which means Rizwan will miss out unless the selectors take a bold call and axe Malik. Hafeez' selection depends on his finger injury.

Imam, Fakhar, Babar, Hafeez*, Malik, Sarfaraz, Imad, Shadab, Hasan, Shaheen, Amir - first XI
Haris, Asif, Shinwari, Faheem - squad
 
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