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Should Babar Azam resign as T20I skipper after the ICC T20 World Cup 2022?

Should Babar Azam resign as T20I skipper after the T20 World Cup?

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With Pakistan all but out of the T20 World Cup after the shock loss to Zimbabwe today, do you think a change of skipper is needed after this T20 World Cup or should Babar Azam continue to lead Pakistan in the 20-over format?
 
He should be axed as captain from all formats. He is not cut out for this job. Pakistan need him the batsman more than anything, he needs to relax and enjoy his game.
 
Should resign now

And it can’t be Rizwan otherwise RizBar issue will be there
 
Babar is the best batsman Pakistan has produced in modern times but he is not a captain and will never be one no matter how much experience he gathers.
The free hand given to him by Ramiz and co only aggravated the problem further. I wouldn't necessarily blame today's defeat on his captaincy but this isn't about one match. It's been a series of defensive and stubborn decision making , inability to be flexible and making the team suffer as a whole because of his preferences ( not giving up the opening slot, keeping Chacha and co with the team for the last 2 years, filling up the middle order with hacks to compensate for the openers SR).

He should continue to play ofcourse, he's our best batsman by miles but he shouldn't captain the team. If it wasn't clear to anyone else by now , it should be after today
 
Yes he should resign or better yet be removed.

And not because we have a better potential captain in the side, but more so because he picked the team with 100% of his own liking. So he must now take the responsibility of taking the loss.

And that responsibility should not be releasing some hot air from the mouth in a press statements. It MUST come with action and consequences.
 
The day Shadab becomes captain he will
promote himself to number 3 which defies all logic.
 
It does seem that his position may become untenable if Pakistan don’t reach the semi finals here. Results for the team recently just haven’t been good enough.
 
Yes he should . He has no experience of captaincy he was bought in by misbah and then chairman as masterstroke but it had to ended this way . We all know how misbah decisions have been just like making azhar ali captain . Babar should bat at 3 and give away the captaincy . Shadab or Afridi can take the role
 
he should be sacked along with his friends and relatives..

Kick out Babar, Rizwan along with their friends (Asif, Khusdil , Ifthikar , Usman Qadir )

Form a new team under Shadab or SSA, this will definitely teach them a lesson for sure.
 
Nevermind captaincy, Babar doesn't even make it to my T20 team. He plays way too slow. Him and Rizwan opening is cancer for Pakistan cricket.

Rizwan should open with Fakhar or any other opener that can score quick. Have two slow batsmen consume dot balls in the first 6 overs is criminal.

Pakistan's 30 year old approach of batting slow then trying to make up for it at the end is a long time problem for Pakistan. Other teams would have chased this in maximum 15 overs.

The funny thing is you will see former players, coaches, etc on TV shows talking about how it's important to keep up with the RRR and playing quick. However, even in their playing days they would do the exact same thing and be unable to score. This tells me it's just a Pakistan problem. Different players but same issue.

Haider Ali, Khushdil, Babar, Ifthikar, etc all need to go.
 
Babar needs to be sacked as captain from all formats, let him focus on being just a batsmen. The team in all formats under him is playing negative / uninspiring cricket.
 
he shouldn't have been captain anyway

needs to remain focus as a batman
that being said no one else out there for the role to

Rizwan as WK/Captain & opener
another issue
 
Babar is young i think there is no need to change captaincy as of yet but Ramiz Raja needs to go for sure.
 
My personal observation is that teams that win world cups and trophies in cricket are mostly that play as a team. In batting, all players chip in and there is no dependency on some players. Also there is no one bigger than the team. However, in bowling they do have world class bowlers atleast some of them. Others also chip in with fielding also playing a crucial.
Pakistan will win once we focus only on our batting. Rizwan and Babar should not be thinking about middle order, middle order should not think about their place in their team. All batsmen in the team should be capable enough to win the game as a collective unit.Imagine Sri Lankan batting vs our batting to understand the difference. Fielding is also poor which adds fuel to the fire.
Only thing we tick is our bowling which gives us a chance to win cups but batting is so poor that it kinda cancels it out anyways.

Therefore, my assessment is that we need to change captaincy and bring someone who can make a team of 11 players from which expectations should be equal.
 
Read a report on here that Ramiz and a few higher ups actually met Babar in person. And tried to see if he’d be open to replacing a few squad members. And he declined. So yes, ofc the blame is going to go on Babar because he chose to back a lineup HE signed off on.

But ultimately, it doesn’t matter who is captain. We’ve been in a free fall as a batting line up ever since Yousuf and Inzi retired.

Younis regressed, Misbah was a limited player, Afridi showed ADHD symptoms, Malik couldn’t play pace. Hafeez was the only decently consistent player.

And now we are utterly and totally screwed.
 
DandyFellow said:
My personal observation is that teams that win world cups and trophies in cricket are mostly that play as a team. In batting, all players chip in and there is no dependency on some players. Also there is no one bigger than the team. However, in bowling they do have world class bowlers atleast some of them. Others also chip in with fielding also playing a crucial.
Pakistan will win once we focus only on our batting. Rizwan and Babar should not be thinking about middle order, middle order should not think about their place in their team. All batsmen in the team should be capable enough to win the game as a collective unit.Imagine Sri Lankan batting vs our batting to understand the difference. Fielding is also poor which adds fuel to the fire.
Only thing we tick is our bowling which gives us a chance to win cups but batting is so poor that it kinda cancels it out anyways.

Therefore, my assessment is that we need to change captaincy and bring someone who can make a team of 11 players from which expectations should be equal.
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To be fair the Pakistani middle order has been given a very long rope i.e. 20-25 games in a row. The captain can put his hand up that i fully backed you guys all the way, you guys didn't make the most of it. Cricket is a ruthless game and if someone is not performing for 4-5 games in a row, you need to drop him and take him out of the firing line and replace him with someone in form and with a body of runs in domestic cricket, this is how most other teams do it.
 
Suleiman said:
Read a report on here that Ramiz and a few higher ups actually met Babar in person. And tried to see if he’d be open to replacing a few squad members. And he declined. So yes, ofc the blame is going to go on Babar because he chose to back a lineup HE signed off on.

But ultimately, it doesn’t matter who is captain. We’ve been in a free fall as a batting line up ever since Yousuf and Inzi retired.

Younis regressed, Misbah was a limited player, Afridi showed ADHD symptoms, Malik couldn’t play pace. Hafeez was the only decently consistent player.

And now we are utterly and totally screwed.
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This is true and now Babar should be rightfully axed as captain.
 
If he had any shame, he'd resign by tomorrow.

Let Shadab lead the side.

Rizwan is more focused on giving speeches outside the cricket ground so he shouldn't even be in the running to lead the team.
 
Shadab, Rizwan and babar will bring no change. Infact, shadab will bring Hassan Aail back in the team. I really wish we had not removed Sarfaraz from T20

We need to change operners - Bring Sharjeel and Fakhar with one down Babar
 
Changing the captain alone won't solve anything, the chairman and the coach need to go to.
 
He has to resign midway- absolute shambles. Everyone said it, everyone saw it.

But still someone’s ego was in the way, it must be said the country is absolute travesty with all that’s going on, usually cricket inspired us.

Babar will still be hoping for a miracle.

Granted opportunities, friendship, poor game awareness has cost this team the golden chance to win anything.

Wish we had Sarfraz as a leader and Inzi as a chief selector,wouldn’t have seen these days.
 
Hafeez and Shoaib Malik are spitting fire against Babar Azam's captaincy on talk shows.
 
He will and he should, but put anyone from the current team in his place, the result would be the same.

We don’t have players who can play bounce well, they are clearly struggling to score off that hard length. It’s a completely different animal compared to the wickets they had been playing in the past year or so.
 
He should step down as captain to focus on his game. For me he should bat 1 down in LOI. Pakistan need a aggressive left hander opening with Rizwan.
 
And replace him with who? And who will get better results with such useless bunch of cricketers

Its not like this is a world beating team underperforming The domestic system just isnt producing cricketers who can stand up and deliver under pressure
 
All I'll say is Babar's captaincy tenure has been marginally better than Azhar Ali, except with prettier cover drives.

Gutless, cowardly, conservative, short-sighted, and tactically inept.

Resign now and take your roadside philosophy yes-man with you.
 
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Zaz said:
And replace him with who? And who will get better results with such useless bunch of cricketers

Its not like this is a world beating team underperforming The domestic system just isnt producing cricketers who can stand up and deliver under pressure
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Oh so now they are a useless bunch of cricketers :)))
[MENTION=147314]topspin[/MENTION] look at how they are disowning the team
 
The bodies were piling up at KK

The bodies are now piling up for Pakistan

Babar Azam’s trail of blood as a PCB appointed captain
 
Zaz said:
And replace him with who? And who will get better results with such useless bunch of cricketers

Its not like this is a world beating team underperforming The domestic system just isnt producing cricketers who can stand up and deliver under pressure
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This is about his captaincy, he is not a natural captain. Even in the PSL, the likes of Rizwan, Shadab, Babar have looked more comfortable in the role versus him. He has to play as an individual player for Pakistan.
 
Love Babar the batsman but as a captain he's a fraud and a charlatan. Should've never become captain, has never looked good as captain.
 
Would this thread exist if we had beaten India?

Babar is a tactically poor captain. But judging the outcome of his career on the basis of performances in Aus seems very harsh. How many Pakistani captains can say they've been successful down under?

If you brought in Shadab or Rizwan they aren't going to be able to magically fix the middle order or find a reliable big hitter when they don't exist.

Babar needs a kick into shape for sure but he deserves a longer rope too.
 
hitthestump said:
Would this thread exist if we had beaten India?

Babar is a tactically poor captain. But judging the outcome of his career on the basis of performances in Aus seems very harsh. How many Pakistani captains can say they've been successful down under?

If you brought in Shadab or Rizwan they aren't going to be able to magically fix the middle order or find a reliable big hitter when they don't exist.

Babar needs a kick into shape for sure but he deserves a longer rope too.
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They didn’t beat India though. They lost.
 
hitthestump said:
Would this thread exist if we had beaten India?

Babar is a tactically poor captain. But judging the outcome of his career on the basis of performances in Aus seems very harsh. How many Pakistani captains can say they've been successful down under?

If you brought in Shadab or Rizwan they aren't going to be able to magically fix the middle order or find a reliable big hitter when they don't exist.

Babar needs a kick into shape for sure but he deserves a longer rope too.
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Shadab or Rizwan will hopefully make correct decisions on the field in terms of match ups, bowling changes, field placements e.t.c. That will be a big upgrade for sure
 
Zaz said:
And replace him with who? And who will get better results with such useless bunch of cricketers

Its not like this is a world beating team underperforming The domestic system just isnt producing cricketers who can stand up and deliver under pressure
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replied in post # 8 above.
 
100% he should.

How do you let Zim get to 130 after having them 97/7?

Absolutely clueless and needs to go.
 
hitthestump said:
Would this thread exist if we had beaten India?

Babar is a tactically poor captain. But judging the outcome of his career on the basis of performances in Aus seems very harsh. How many Pakistani captains can say they've been successful down under?

If you brought in Shadab or Rizwan they aren't going to be able to magically fix the middle order or find a reliable big hitter when they don't exist.

Babar needs a kick into shape for sure but he deserves a longer rope too.
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No it wouldn’t exist, but we lost to India with Babar being a contributing factor.

Scored nothing.

Decided to play 2 pacers and Shaheen who was still not fully recovered, so 2.5 pacers on a pitch that needed 4 pacers. That was the decision he made as a captain that screwed us over as Nawaz was all India needed to undo all the good work we had done to tie their batsmen up
 
hitthestump said:
Would this thread exist if we had beaten India?

Babar is a tactically poor captain. But judging the outcome of his career on the basis of performances in Aus seems very harsh. How many Pakistani captains can say they've been successful down under?

If you brought in Shadab or Rizwan they aren't going to be able to magically fix the middle order or find a reliable big hitter when they don't exist.

Babar needs a kick into shape for sure but he deserves a longer rope too.
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It's not just this WC though - he lost the ENG series having led 3-2, he bottled the Asia Cup final when we had unfancied SRL at 58-5, lost to AUS B in a home T20, lost the 2021 WC SF from a dominant position, and got hammered by ENG C last summer when their first team was wiped out with COVID to name a few examples.

His Karachi Kings team were an embarrassment in PSL.

He's a nice guy, but not cut out for cricket captaincy or any strategic role. He can't think a step ahead of the opposition, his tactics and selections are always reactive, his instincts under pressure are innately conservative (save my best pacers for last, defensive fields after an expensive over) and he's persisted with duds like Khushdil and Asif far longer than deserved. He has to go.
 
Shadab would be the next guy.

I have been saying Babar is a bad captain since last world t20. We lost the semi cause of him, but I was critisized :)
 
Everyone knows that Babar is a poor tactician. But neither will he resign and neither would the PCB push him.
 
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Cowardly captain and overrated batsmen. Not even in the top 15 Pakistan batsmen historically
 
Imad Wasim is the best T20 captain from a tactical perspective. He understands the game better than Babar and some of the other options.

Unfortunately, he doesn't have a guaranteed spot on the team right now making that an impossible change.

No one else really stands out even if they remove Babar. They're all equals.
 
Babar stepping down or being axed will not happen during this tournament. It might further demoralize the team.
 
kingusama92 said:
Imad Wasim is the best T20 captain from a tactical perspective. He understands the game better than Babar and some of the other options.

Unfortunately, he doesn't have a guaranteed spot on the team right now making that an impossible change.

No one else really stands out even if they remove Babar. They're all equals.
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I think Imad Wasim would be an automatic selection but for Babar and Mohammad Wasim disliking him.

If there was a role change perhaps the new captain brings in Imad for Nawaz and we see him being a permanent fixture in the XI again. From that, maybe captaincy material in a year or two.
 
GLORY OF '92 said:
Cowardly captain and overrated batsmen. Not even in the top 15 Pakistan batsmen historically
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I would forgive him if his technique was shoddy and he was struggling. But Babar doesn't even have the intent to dominate other teams. He's just content scoring harmless fifties in bilateral when nothing is at stake.
 
shamaan said:
Who would you suggest ?
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100% Imad Wasim

I don’t care if he isn’t in the team or whatever. There are plenty of players who are not in the team but are miles better than this garbage squad!
 
Major said:
Shadab would be the next guy.

I have been saying Babar is a bad captain since last world t20. We lost the semi cause of him, but I was critisized :)
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Shadab is not a bad choice. But he needs to win a PSL for IU for us to see this in action.
 
Legendary pacer Shoaib Akhtar expressed his disappointment after Pakistan were stunned by Zimbabwe in their T20 World Cup Group 2 match at the Optus Stadium in Perth. After electing to bat first, Zimbabwe could only post a total of 130/8 as Mohammad Wasim Jr bagged four wickets on his return in the playing XI. However, in reply, Pakistan fell short by runs, courtesy of Brad Evans' gutsy final over. While analysing the match, Akhtar lashed out at the team's tactics, even suggesting that Babar Azam is a bad captain.

"I don't know why is it so hard for you guys to understand. I have said this before, and I am saying it again that with our top and middle-order, we can achieve big success. We can't win consistently. Pakistan have a bad captain. Pakistan are out of the World Cup. Nawaz has bowled the last over in the three games we have lost," Akhtar said in a video uploaded on his YouTube channel.

Akhtar also highlighted the areas where Pakistan need to alter things, including Babar's batting order.

"Babar should bat one down. Major flaw in Shaheen Shah Afridi's fitness. Major flaw in the captaincy, and major flaws in the management. We will back you but what brand of cricket are you playing? You can't just walk into a tournament and expect that the opposition will let you win," he added.

NDTV
 
From an outsiders perspective Babar the captain seems out of his depth tactically, strategically & as a people manager but I could be missing something.
 
He should be sacked regardless. The process is more important than the results. Maybe by some fluke we reach the semis but that doesnt change the fact the process is flawed. Tactically Babar-Rizwan combo is now getting exposed. Also, the current selection committee needs to go. The players being selected especially in the middle order are not cut out for international cricket. Fakhar is taking a spot when he isnt fully fit. Less I say about Khushdil the better. Players like Haris Sohail and Sohaib Maqsood are being wasted.
 
Snatch said:
There's a name from the past. Naturally gifted attacking batsman, what ever happened to him?
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Played recently in the National T20, got a few fifties. I am certain if we select the right way we can have a very strong team. We need proper batsmen not these laparus like Asif Ali and Khushdil.
 
proud_pakistani said:
Played recently in the National T20, got a few fifties. I am certain if we select the right way we can have a very strong team. We need proper batsmen not these laparus like Asif Ali and Khushdil.
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Haider Ali, Ghumdil and Asif Ali are not rusty gates but games that have been sealed in. Utterly useless!

Iftikhar is a rusty gate and hardly much better
 
Babar should not resign. He is our captain for the next decade hands down. He will learn.

Saqi / MoYo need to go. M Wasim as selector needs to go.
 
If Virat Kohli can be sacked as a captain then why not Mr. Babar Azam?
The team's performance is nothing but abysmal.
 
Make Greg Chappell the coach and revamp the entire cricketing approach

Get mentally tough players rather than just technically aesthetic players for now (like how Australia changed after Border became captain)
 
Rana said:
100% Imad Wasim

I don’t care if he isn’t in the team or whatever. There are plenty of players who are not in the team but are miles better than this garbage squad!
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I've been vouching for this guy to be captain as well for the last 3 years.

His skills might be average but what sets him apart from the others is his elite mentality. He believes in himself and doesn't let the occasion get the better off him.

We needed someone like him with a cool head in the failed run chase against Zimbabwe.

He leads by example and takes responsibility when we've needed him to deliver clutch knocks. Imad is a proper batsman who can score freely.

Our middle order is poor and I can't see why he can't play alongside Nawaz. He can come in for Haider Ali or Iftikhar. The latter's reflexes are gone and we need to move on from him.
 
Why oh why do we keep changing captains? What has this policy of constant change achieved anything?
 
Wasim and Waqar not coming on slow, they are having a full go at Babar

Fakhar defended them quoting their ICC individual rankings and their averages. Malik then butted in saying that in the recent England series the likes of Phil Salt, David Malan, Harry Brooke, Ben Duckett all played instrumental roles in England winning the series, yet these players are no where to be seen in ICC rankings. Waqar then butted in, I don't really care about individuals and their rankings, ultimately its the teams ranking which matters, if the players are doing well individually but the team overall is suffering then its useless.

Wasim then layed into Babar and criticized him for his stubborn selections and not insisting on the selection of the experienced Shoaib Malik in Australia. For not having the intelligence, foresight that he would need to have groomed at least two proper fast bowling all rounders in Australia. Why was Aamir Jamal discarded after the England series especially when he helped Pakistan to win one game? Why was Faheem Ashraf discarded? Why was Abrar selected for the England series and still didn't play a single game?

Both criticized Pakistan's complete lack of preparations for Australian conditions ie Babar and Rizwan had been batting, opening on low slow subcontinent wickets or low bounce English conditions but have been brutally exposed in Perth.

Babar needs to resign for his sake, the entire country is having a go at him. He needs to be man enough to accept his limitations.
 
Hasan said:
Why oh why do we keep changing captains? What has this policy of constant change achieved anything?
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Why is this captain applying a terrible strategy? How do we get him to change his strategy???
 
He should hand over the LOI captaincy to Shadab.

In test he can stay but we need a solid test coach that will help him to understand the game.

I'm not kidding when I say Pakistan should reach out to Mickey Arthur asap and bring him back as a coach.
 
kingusama92 said:
Imad Wasim is the best T20 captain from a tactical perspective. He understands the game better than Babar and some of the other options.

Unfortunately, he doesn't have a guaranteed spot on the team right now making that an impossible change.

No one else really stands out even if they remove Babar. They're all equals.
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Agree regarding Imad.

He is a canny cricketer and should have the captaincy 2 years ago but now it is too late.
 
Our game relies on Babar and Riz and if they fail we lose more often than not. After the WC Babar needs to be away from the T20 team and Riz should bat 5. Our middle order is poor and has been for the best part of a decade and needs a total revamp. Take punts on young players with potential and get rid of Chacha, Asif, HA( until he gets some confidence and brain cells back).
 
Kohli resigned as caption because he wasn't doing well and Now he can focus on his game and is performing great so letting go of some responsibilities to improve your game is a good idea. Afterall if babar doesn't perform then capacity will be gone anyway.
Better to take initiative and focus on his own game.
 
Things are really bad when even Wasim Akram of all people is now coming out in public against you.

Wasim revealed that in Karachi Kings when they lost 9 matches out of ten, he had politely suggested to Babar to come down to number 3 and to allow Sharjeel and Salt to open instead. Babar refused point blank and as a result Sharjeel who was the more natural opener had to drop down to number 3.

Waqar then butted in saying this is the difference between a captain and a leader and the team respects a captain who is willing to make personal sacrifices for the team and is leading by example.

Knives are coming out for Babar now.
 
Savak said:
Things are really bad when even Wasim Akram of all people is now coming out in public against you.

Wasim revealed that in Karachi Kings when they lost 9 matches out of ten, he had politely suggested to Babar to come down to number 3 and to allow Sharjeel and Salt to open instead. Babar refused point blank and as a result Sharjeel who was the more natural opener had to drop down to number 3.

Waqar then butted in saying this is the difference between a captain and a leader and the team respects a captain who is willing to make personal sacrifices for the team and is leading by example.

Knives are coming out for Babar now.
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Honestly not a good look for Wasim to reveal this in public.
 
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