Should Mohammad Amir work harder on his batting?

[gazza619]

and try to become the all rounder that Pakistan needs. Lets face it with every day passing he aint getting any better as a bowler. We should just accept the fact that he is now a 133 kph bowler who would occassionaly bumped a 138 kph delivery. For me Amir is still useful as a bowler because of the fast cutter he bowls.

I know Mickey and Co have this love for Faheem Ashraf whom they batted twice at no.6 against Australia (purely ridiculous).

Wouldnt it be better if Amir was given the role of a no.8 batsman and we can drop either Faheem Ashraf or Imad. This way we can play an extra attacking bowling option in Umer Khan or Haris Rauf or Husnain?

 

[hitthestump]

Isn't this how Irfan Pathan lost the plot completely? Nah, needs to work on his main skill set which is his bowling.

 

[adzzy786]

He needs to learn how to bowl before anything else

 

[jaf348]

Amir is at best a number 9/10 batsman. It is too late in his career to reinvent himself as an all rounder.

Most worrying is since the start of 2018 he has taken 5 wickets in 14 ODIs which is part-timer-esque. He needs to work on his bowling first of all.

 

[Savak]

A poor man's Irfan Pathan now Amir.

 

[The Viper]

I don't think his batting can be developed as well to be classed as a bowling allrounder.

 

[SensiblePakFan]

he should open in ODI's, we always lose a wicket anyways

 

[PakLFC]

Yes he should. At the moment his priority is to work on his bowling.

 

[Sher Khan]

His defensive technique is decent and he looks like someone that takes his time to get going. Not bad for him to bat at number 8

 

[giri26]

Well you need to be good in at least one aspect to hold your place in the side. Amir should first work on his bowling and get back to wicket taking ways. His batting should always be a bonus. No need to manufacture an all-rounder when your XI already has Shadab, Faheem and Imad. How many of them do you need in a playing XI?

 

[Junaids]

The OP is completely correct.

Amir is too short to be a strike bowler outside England and Ireland or Pink Ball Tests.

He can bat - he outbatted Misbah on the last test tour of Australia.

Now we need to see Shadab bat at 7 and average 40, Faheem bat at 8 and average 30 and Amir bat at 9 and average 25.

Then you can add two strike bowlers - Shaheen Shah Afridi and hopefully Hasnain will develop.

In Asia it would be different, with Amir making way for a second spinner.

 

[Sunny_majoka]

The OP is completely correct.

Amir is too short to be a strike bowler outside England and Ireland or Pink Ball Tests.

He can bat - he outbatted Misbah on the last test tour of Australia.

Now we need to see Shadab bat at 7 and average 40, Faheem bat at 8 and average 30 and Amir bat at 9 and average 25.

Then you can add two strike bowlers - Shaheen Shah Afridi and hopefully Hasnain will develop.

In Asia it would be different, with Amir making way for a second spinner.

Faheem at 8. Are you serious
Hassan at 8 will do miles better than faheem and he is better bowler than anyone in the Pak team too.

 

[Junaids]

Faheem at 8. Are you serious
Hassan at 8 will do miles better than faheem and he is better bowler than anyone in the Pak team too.

I was referring to Tests, where Faheem has a terrific track record already.

Hasan Ali is so short that at Test Level he has to be a batsman who can bowl.

 

[light]

The guy is already struggling as a bowler, would destroy wtv he has if he tries to become a batsmen aswell.

 

[aukhan]

Should work on his bowling first.

He has been getting free rides now.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

He's can make 20-25 runs occasionally but he isn't capable enough to become an allrounder.

 

[hadi123]

It's not that easy to just become an all rounder otherwise everyone would do it. As the above poster said, he is capable of getting the odd 20-25 runs but you can't expect anyone to just become superb at batting.

 

[Abdullah]

I actually think he is going to be deadly when he bowls with Shaheen.
Shaheen will be swinging it and the batters will assume amir will swing it too, and the straight balls will do the damage!!

 

[Chokli]

The OP is completely correct.

Amir is too short to be a strike bowler outside England and Ireland or Pink Ball Tests.

He can bat - he outbatted Misbah on the last test tour of Australia.

Now we need to see Shadab bat at 7 and average 40, Faheem bat at 8 and average 30 and Amir bat at 9 and average 25.

Then you can add two strike bowlers - Shaheen Shah Afridi and hopefully Hasnain will develop.

In Asia it would be different, with Amir making way for a second spinner.

Tests and ODIs are completely separate.

Performances in Tests don't translate to automatic performance in ODIs.

For Tests though, yes, that is good.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Yes, he can be Pakistan’s Mark Ealham, an economical bowler who could contribute a bit with batting.

 

[Ronaldo7]

I actually think he is going to be deadly when he bowls with Shaheen.
Shaheen will be swinging it and the batters will assume amir will swing it too, and the straight balls will do the damage!!

How is he going to be deadly with no pace and no swing?
In 2017 his pace was around the 140 mark and he swung it too. Both are gone. People not to stop using the CT17 final as an example EVERY SINGLE TIME.

 

[Abdullah]

How is he going to be deadly with no pace and no swing?
In 2017 his pace was around the 140 mark and he swung it too. Both are gone. People not to stop using the CT17 final as an example EVERY SINGLE TIME.

U didn't read my post, I didn't say he will get it to swing at pace

 

[Bilal7]

No, that is a terrible idea. Amir needs to spend all his time honing his bowling skills. We do not need any other all-rounders in the team. Play your four best bowlers + six best batsman - three of whom can combine to bowl ten-twelve cheap overs + the wicket-keeper.

 

[Bilal7]

How is he going to be deadly with no pace and no swing?
In 2017 his pace was around the 140 mark and he swung it too. Both are gone. People not to stop using the CT17 final as an example EVERY SINGLE TIME.

Why? The CT 2017 is a far better indicator of what to expect from these players than a silly, bilateral series in the UAE. Amir hasn't lost the ability to bowl around 140, he bowls slower in Asia because pace simply helps the batsmen.

 

[Hasan123]

Just needs to get his batting to a level where he can average about 25. His bowling needs much more work.

 

[gazza619]

Yes, he can be Pakistan’s Mark Ealham, an economical bowler who could contribute a bit with batting.

I think Mark Ealham was the last name on my mind.

Amir can be more like our Shaun Pollock.

 

[gazza619]

The OP is completely correct.

Amir is too short to be a strike bowler outside England and Ireland or Pink Ball Tests.

He can bat - he outbatted Misbah on the last test tour of Australia.

Now we need to see Shadab bat at 7 and average 40, Faheem bat at 8 and average 30 and Amir bat at 9 and average 25.

Then you can add two strike bowlers - Shaheen Shah Afridi and hopefully Hasnain will develop.

In Asia it would be different, with Amir making way for a second spinner.

I would personally only pick one of Faheem and Shadab.

Need more aggressive bowlers in the line up. I am quite excited by the prospects of Husnain, Umer and Rauf.

 

[The_Odd_One]

I think Mark Ealham was the last name on my mind.

Amir can be more like our Shaun Pollock.

Aamir would have over achieved if he even comes close to Pollock.

 

[Savak]

Bottomline Amir is over rated and was never as good as perceived to be

 

[aloo paratha]

The OP is completely correct.

Amir is too short to be a strike bowler outside England and Ireland or Pink Ball Tests.

He can bat - he outbatted Misbah on the last test tour of Australia.

Now we need to see Shadab bat at 7 and average 40, Faheem bat at 8 and average 30 and Amir bat at 9 and average 25.

Then you can add two strike bowlers - Shaheen Shah Afridi and hopefully Hasnain will develop.

In Asia it would be different, with Amir making way for a second spinner.

You think lack of height is Amir's problem...

 

[Ronaldo7]

Why? The CT 2017 is a far better indicator of what to expect from these players than a silly, bilateral series in the UAE. Amir hasn't lost the ability to bowl around 140, he bowls slower in Asia because pace simply helps the batsmen.

He was bowling at this pace in South africa as well.

 

[Ronaldo7]

U didn't read my post, I didn't say he will get it to swing at pace

I didn't say that he won't swing it coz i thought u said he will. I read your post u said the deceptive factor will come into play. I was just giving a general feedback.

 

[Ronaldo7]

The OP is completely correct.

Amir is too short to be a strike bowler outside England and Ireland or Pink Ball Tests.

He can bat - he outbatted Misbah on the last test tour of Australia.

Now we need to see Shadab bat at 7 and average 40, Faheem bat at 8 and average 30 and Amir bat at 9 and average 25.

Then you can add two strike bowlers - Shaheen Shah Afridi and hopefully Hasnain will develop.

In Asia it would be different, with Amir making way for a second spinner.

How's amir short for pitches outside the UAE?
According to Google, he's 188cm which is more than enough.
Am i missing something?

 

[Junaids]

How's amir short for pitches outside the UAE?
According to Google, he's 188cm which is more than enough.
Am i missing something?

I’ve met him.

He’s around 5 foot 11, which is too short to be a Test bowler with anything other than a Dukes ball or Pink ball.

That’s why he misses the edge so often: for men that short it’s hard to find and retain a good Test length.

Really Amir and Faheem are so borderline for height that in Tests their batting is all that can keep them in the team as the third or fourth seamer.

Hasan Ali is even more vulnerable: he’s around 9 inches too short to be a Test bowler. His only hope is to do a Steve Smith, and improve his batting enough to bat in the Top Six.