Should not reporting a bookie approach be held as a crime? If so, what should be the punishment?

[Major]

We dont know as of yet what Sharjeel and Khalid have done, but we do know that Irfan is guilty of not reporting a bookie approach to the higher authorities.

Now not reporting a bookie approach does not only make a player look suspicious aswell, but it also lets the bookies roam freely without anyone but the player know what he is upto.

 

[Tekcirc]

What do you mean by your post? It cannot be deemed as a legal crime.

Its an offense as per Anti-Corruption code in cricket.

 

[Slog]

The fact is that its plainly clear and EMPHASISED a lot that an approach has to be reported.

We can debate whether its too harsh or not, but the fact is that the rules are crystal clear. So need to be reported

 

[BA56]

We dont know as of yet what Sharjeel and Khalid have done, but we do know that Irfan is guilty of not reporting a bookie approach to the higher authorities.

Now not reporting a bookie approach does not only make a player look suspicious aswell, but it also lets the bookies roam freely without anyone but the player know what he is upto.

First of all this is being reported and one can not be sure about whether he is guilty or not. But if proven guilty the longest ban possible according to the rules.

Match fixing and spot fixing is a cancer killing the cricket from within. It has to be dealt with in the harshest way possible. No excuses, no do overs and no wrist slapping.

And before you say he didn't fix but was just approached, to me not reporting is just as bad. If you are a professional, you must understand what this is doing to the sport and if you are not reporting it you are complicit in the corruption of the sport.

 

[cricketAXEpert]

We dont know as of yet what Sharjeel and Khalid have done, but we do know that Irfan is guilty of not reporting a bookie approach to the higher authorities.

Now not reporting a bookie approach does not only make a player look suspicious aswell, but it also lets the bookies roam freely without anyone but the player know what he is upto.

Match Fixing = Life Ban, Spot Fixing = Lengthy ban , Suspicious Approach=a Short Ban ??

However Suspicious approach can be a tricky thing. I am sure almost all players talk about fixing with their friends and acquaintances. Anyone can walk up to player and ask him (as a joke). would a player report a relative, Brother or a lifelong friend because he jokingly asked him?
But I am sure PCB has more evidence against these players than they are telling the media.

 

[RehanG]

a warning and if it happens 2nd time around ban for 2 years and 3rd forever.

 

[wasimjunior]

The fact is that its plainly clear and EMPHASISED a lot that an approach has to be reported.

We can debate whether its too harsh or not, but the fact is that the rules are crystal clear. So need to be reported

These bookies are clearly gangsters. Would
You report if you believed there were consequences ?

Let's not jump to conclusions

 

[Zahid87]

Match Fixing = Life Ban, Spot Fixing = Lengthy ban , Suspicious Approach=a Short Ban ??

However Suspicious approach can be a tricky thing. I am sure almost all players talk about fixing with their friends and acquaintances. Anyone can walk up to player and ask him (as a joke). would a player report a relative, Brother or a lifelong friend because he jokingly asked him?
But I am sure PCB has more evidence against these players than they are telling the media.

Don't think you can differentiate between match and spot fixing. Yes, to fans one may be a harsher crime, but in reality, defrauding bookmakers and punters, whether it be for odds on the result, or small things like runs per over, is the same.

The intention is to make money, and the route to do so is the same. Punishment should be the same, and for me, thats a life ban.

Failure to Report should carry a lesser sentence I suppose, but failure to report twice should earn the same ban as fixing.

 

[jog_1]

Should be a monetary fine.

 

[Major]

First of all this is being reported and one can not be sure about whether he is guilty or not. But if proven guilty the longest ban possible according to the rules.

Match fixing and spot fixing is a cancer killing the cricket from within. It has to be dealt with in the harshest way possible. No excuses, no do overs and no wrist slapping.

And before you say he didn't fix but was just approached, to me not reporting is just as bad. If you are a professional, you must understand what this is doing to the sport and if you are not reporting it you are complicit in the corruption of the sport.

he himself admitted that he met a bookie

 

[notAgainPlease]

How does a player even know a friend is a bookie? You get introduced by someone , no one introduces you like meet him, he is a bookie. They all pose as a friend. Also in our culture we tend to be friends with everyone specially with someone who is buying us free food etc lol. I am sure these bookies spend lot of money just to be around these players.

 

[Major]

The fact is that its plainly clear and EMPHASISED a lot that an approach has to be reported.

We can debate whether its too harsh or not, but the fact is that the rules are crystal clear. So need to be reported

well the rule is kind of harsh, but then again it has a good reason to have it as a rule

But what is the proper punishment here?

 

[Major]

Match Fixing = Life Ban, Spot Fixing = Lengthy ban , Suspicious Approach=a Short Ban ??

However Suspicious approach can be a tricky thing. I am sure almost all players talk about fixing with their friends and acquaintances. Anyone can walk up to player and ask him (as a joke). would a player report a relative, Brother or a lifelong friend because he jokingly asked him?
But I am sure PCB has more evidence against these players than they are telling the media.

How does a player even know a friend is a bookie? You get introduced by someone , no one introduces you like meet him, he is a bookie. They all pose as a friend. Also in our culture we tend to be friends with everyone specially with someone who is buying us free food etc lol. I am sure these bookies spend lot of money just to be around these players.

In business, everyone is upfront with the whole process

Thus, here when a bookie meets you, he tells you upfront what he wants

 

[Major]

a warning and if it happens 2nd time around ban for 2 years and 3rd forever.

but just a warning means that your are taking fixing light and giving room for it to happen again

 

[Square Drive]

Life ban.

They were given talks and were given many warnings before the PSL. They are not kids.

 

[Adil_94]

if you fail to report an approach then you should get a hefty fine and a 6-12 month ban from all cricket related activities to drill it into players that transparency against bookies and corruption is imperative when u consider how much its drilled into our players especially those on the Intl circuit to report approaches then its inexcusable to not do that.

 

[notAgainPlease]

In business, everyone is upfront with the whole process

Thus, here when a bookie meets you, he tells you upfront what he wants

How do you know, I meet a stranger and he comes and tells me he is a bookie .. Thats not how it works ...

 

[Dr_Bassim]

a warning and if it happens 2nd time around ban for 2 years and 3rd forever.

So you want to give three chances to players who consistently fail to report an approach.

Would you give me three chances as your doctor if I failed to diagnose you accurately once and sent you home based on my own suspicions of what you had?

Or would you trust a lawyer to take your case after he forgot the essential information that could lead you being free?

Would you trust everyone three times before finally killing their careers?

Be realistic.

 

[Major]

How do you know, I meet a stranger and he comes and tells me he is a bookie .. Thats not how it works ...

well obviously a bookie won't meet you.

a bookie will meet someone who could help him make money. Once he meets the player he is obviously going to tell him what he is and what he demands and what he gives in return.

In business, everyone is blunt.