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Should Pakistan go for chase if the target is 300-320 to get in 70 overs or play it safe for draw?

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Would you rather have Pakistan take risks and chase the target with a run-rate of 4.5 runs per over, thus chasing around 320 in 70 overs by taking a few risks and smart moves or play it safe by blocking and avoiding a series defeat?

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They are playing for draw already!!!! Otherwise they would take new ball!! When it was due!!!
 
A draw would be the best result for Pakistan from here on. And looks like that's what Sarfu is looking for.

Yasir kept bowling on Kane's pads over after over.
 
1-1 against this Kiwi side should be really embarrassing result for us so hopefully they show some spine and go for it.
 
They should go for it since they do not have a good defensive technique at all. Once Williamson knows they aren't going for the target, you can expect 6 batsmen around the bat and our batsmen will quiver for the umpteenth time. So it's better if they play attacking cricket and not let fielders gather around the bat.
 
A draw is a loss for Pakistan. Clueless sarfraz has shown his cowardliness by not taking the new ball.
 
MRSN said:
1-1 against this Kiwi side should be really embarrassing result for us so hopefully they show some spine and go for it.
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If you go for it and lose in the process, a 2-1 to NZ will be even more embarrassing. Better to wait and see out a draw. You gain a point in the rankings. Lose and you will end up behind Sri lanka and back at 7.
 
If you play for the draw you will lose, that’s how it is in UAE. Williamson and co already made us pay.

Go for the chase, throw the kitchen sink at it. Besides, Professor and Imam are not some defensive behemoths, better to just go for it.
 
shariqnoor said:
They should go for it since they do not have a good defensive technique at all. Once Williamson knows they aren't going for the target, you can expect 6 batsmen around the bat and our batsmen will quiver for the umpteenth time. So it's better if they play attacking cricket and not let fielders gather around the bat.
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Azhars, Haris', and Asads in their dreams cannot attack. They don't have those gears. On the contrary, I feel they have good defensive technique, especially Azhar. However, just not good under pressure.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
If you go for it and lose in the process, a 2-1 to NZ will be even more embarrassing. Better to wait and see out a draw. You gain a point in the rankings. Lose and you will end up behind Sri lanka and back at 7.
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1-1 against this side on UAE pitches is as good as 1-2 for us.
 
MRSN said:
1-1 against this side on UAE pitches is as good as 1-2 for us.
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This is how I think things are going to turn out tmrw. Morning session of 28 overs, Williamson and co. will probably add 45 runs slowly and carefully in first 18 and smash atleast 50 in the next 10. Declare at lunch and then set minimum target of 295 odd off 62 overs or so. So PAK will have to go almost at 5 an over. Three things can happen

Scenario 1:

PAK look to chase almost 5 an over and lose wickets trying to hit out and NZ force a win. This is what Williamson would be baiting PAK to do.

Scenario 2:

The pitch starts breaking up sometime in the 2nd session and the ball starts turning alarmingly with unpredictable bounce and PAK fold no matter what they try. This has happened in Abu Dhabi before where pitch remained slow for 13 sessions and turned into a minefield in last two

Scenario 3

Pitch doesn't break up at all and Pakistan don't take the bait and end up 180/3 at the end of the day and earn a respectable draw.


Scenario 2 is beyond Pak's control.

Scenario 1 would further lead to Pak losing 3 points and falling to rank 7 and a dejected PAK side going to play 1st Test in SA in 19 days and most likely getting whitewashed which means further loss of points.

Scenario 3 would lead to PAK gaining a point and going to SA in a relatively better state of mind after having earned a hard fought draw and can manage even an upset or two in SA.

There is no scenario now where NZ are losing this.
 
Go for the chase in royal style.

Pakistan have no business losing to NZ, shelling tests to WI, and getting whitewashed to SL at home.
 
No hard and fast rule. If you lose quick wickets, you have no choice but to play for a draw or face defeat. It will all depend on what Williamson wants as well, is he playing to win or draw.
 
Have a sense Pakistan will chase down anytarget set unless Kiwis decide to bat out and earn a draw.
 
We have to go for it. But 90% we will lose whether we go for the win or a draw. Awful performance.
 
hafeezrocks said:
Would you rather have Pakistan take risks and chase the target with a run-rate of 4.5 runs per over, thus chasing around 320 in 70 overs by taking a few risks and smart moves or play it safe by blocking and avoiding a series defeat?

Opinions ?
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I doubt they will chase. In nothing else, memories of Hamilton 2016 where they lost 9 wkts and the Test in the last session against the same team should still be fresh.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/...pakistan-2nd-test-pakistan-tour-of-nz-2016-17
 
We have 2 free wickets at top of the order and a tail that starts at 7.

So we are depending on 4 batsmen to score 300 runs? :)))

we will be lucky to end with a draw here.
 
Amjid Javed said:
We have 2 free wickets at top of the order and a tail that starts at 7.

So we are depending on 4 batsmen to score 300 runs? :)))

we will be lucky to end with a draw here.
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Let's hope Nephew and Professor in his final innings can do something meaningful for once. :moha:imam
 
Farewell Test match of Mohammad Hafeez

Will pak chase difficult target and give Mohd Hafeez good send off Just like they did for Dav Whatmore.
 
Don't worry pak will win,they are just waiting nz to score enough runs so the atg can retire on a high scoring a double hundred like the goat :malik
 
Pak team is too mentally weak to chase anything, hope am wrong though and they crush it tomorrow. :yk
 
They should play positively and go for the win. They'll lose if they went for draw
 
If the two tailenders at the top can somehow score few runs i will play babar at 3 and haris at 4 and told them to go for the win,if they fail the rest will have to play for the draw(if the target is around 300 in 70 overs but maybe williamson will completely secure the draw and give a target of 350+ in 50/60)
Anyway imo pak will lose either way.
 
Don’t worry lads Hafeez Sobers will set up the chase perfectly with a quickfire in no time!
 
MRSN said:
1-1 against this Kiwi side should be really embarrassing result for us so hopefully they show some spine and go for it.
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I agree that I expected Pakistan to win this series, since it was in the UAE however, can you please clarify what you mean by losing to "this" NZ team is really embarrassing?

What's wrong with "this" NZ team? They are ranked 4th in the world and have a full strength squad with the likes of Williamson, Taylor, Nichols, Boult, Wagner and Southee.

The only thing really going in our favour is that the games are being played in the UAE, however, history has shown that the team batting last will always be at a disadvantage in the UAE, with days 3 & 4 usually being the best days to bat.

Having said that - this game is far from over and I wouldn't be surprised if NZ collapse in the morning setting Pakistan 220ish to win and inshallah our batsmen giving it a good go.
 
Harna to wse hi hai isse bethar hai chase krne ki koshish karen :sarf2
 
hafeezrocks said:
Would you rather have Pakistan take risks and chase the target with a run-rate of 4.5 runs per over, thus chasing around 320 in 70 overs by taking a few risks and smart moves or play it safe by blocking and avoiding a series defeat?

Opinions ?
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Go for it. Defending will be very difficult the pitch is turning. If early wickets fall than try to do what Azhar and Asad did on 2nd day. A draw will be an achievement.
 
Rana said:
1-1 is a defeat as it is
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No, it is not. (1-1 is not a defeat) West indies of the 80s ruled for 15 + years undefeated. they were the most powerful team in the history of cricket but even they had to settle 1-1 three times against Pakistan.

A draw from the Current position will be a big achievement from Pakistan. NZ is now Favorite to win the series.
 
Few years back Pakistan chased 300 in a single day against Sri Lanka. Pakistan made the most out of defensive open field. PAkistan needs to find a way to be positive stop thinking of saving the match. A draw also will be a moral victory for NZ as they'll take the 1-1 result.

If Pakistan goes out there with a positive mindset, to play for a win. They can avoid loss comfortably.

Pakistan should make use of that useless player Bilal Asif. REshuffle the lineup send him early and ask him to play naturally in T20 mode hitting quickfire 40 or 50. If Asif is even 50% successful it'll reduce the deficit and create an opportunity for Pakistan. IF nothing comes out of this decision it'll still induce some confidence for the team mindset. NZ would not give target more than 280. Anything between 250 and 280 is highly likely. They'll not bat more than half of the first session. For them to make 300 would require Grandhomme to hit some 50 odd runs with a good strike rate.
 
No, it would be embarrassing to lose a Test series to NZ at home.

Better to draw than lose.
 
Play with some intent at the start, try to score at least 3 runs an over for first 15, if no wickets have fallen (very unlikely with 2 club level batsmen opening) then they can accelerate a little more.

I don't think there's a set answer, we should bat with intent, but if it gets too tough, knuckle down and go for the draw. Don't want a repeat of our tour to new Zealand in 2016 where we stupidly lost the match in the final session.
 
Karachi Test 1978 v india, Pakistan chased down 175 in 24 overs last session curtosy of huge sixes by PM Imran khan.
 
Pakistan will possibly chase 350 target set by New Zealand

I see our team capitulating at 150 to 170 and New Zeland winning this series. Our middle order is incapable of chasing or surviving 4th inning challenge once the target goes above 180. 4th inning TTF are Azhar Ali, Mohammed Hafeez, Sarfaraaz Ahmed and tail will easily give into New Zealand
New Zealand has to pick 3 wickets in under 100 and they will win it. Pakistan will start to see demons in this pitch and the new New Zealand debutant spinner will be a new born hero. Our history has been to make heroes out of ordinary opposition players. Best of luck Pakistan.
 
250+ will be very hard to chase. 350 will be next to impossible. Statement is true for all teams and not just Pakistan.

Pakistan's best chance is to bowl them out around 250 and then play it like ODI.
 
These players don't have the self belief that they can chase 150+ or bat briskly.
 
Go for a win for sure. Take a chance instead of playing for a boring draw.
 
Go for the win if possible. 300 in 70 overs - they should go for it.

320 in 60 overs - not realistic. Go for draw.
 
I rather we loose trying to chase a target. Nobody cares about a 1-1 result.
 
I would rather them lose trying to win instead of doing for a draw.
 
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MenInG said:
So what's the plan now?
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Equation is much easier than expected in the OP.

I think they will see through the first session with minimum risks and take it from there onwards. If Pakistan do not lose a wicket in the first session with a score of 50/0 , the chase could be on later with Sarfaraz And Bilal send up the order to score some quick runs.
 
Looks like even asking for a draw was too much for this lot.
 
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