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Should Pakistan have boycotted the Asia Cup?

Should Pakistan have boycotted the Asia Cup?

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Should Pakistan have boycotted the Asia Cup to send a message to the ICC and member boards that taking a tournament away from Pakistan without proper justification will result in Pakistan boycotting the event. So they would be more cautious when it comes to the Champions Trophy?

Was never in favour of making threats to boycott the World Cup. Boycotting the World Cup would have been disastrous- PCB gets estimately 35 million dollars every year from the ICC. This money is vital is sustaining the cricket ecosystem in the country. Plus it would have deprived Babar, Shaheen, Rizwan, Shadab, Naseem to lift a World Cup in their prime. So Thank God we are going to the World Cup.

But the revenue from the Asia Cup is peanuts as compared to the World Cup? So why lose our dignity over a meaningless tournament that Virat Kohli choose to skip in 2018 citing 'workload management'. Just goes to show the value of the Asia Cup.

So why didn't the PCB boycott? Was it revenue, or not wanting to spoil relationship with ACC members? What can be the reason? Let's discuss
 
Boycotting could've resulted in further alienation.

Better to keep a good relation with ACC.
 
Or maybe practice before the World Cup? But all these reasons are not big enough to risk losing the chance to host complete Champion Trophy in Pakistan
 
A boycott of the tournament would have had little if any impact on anything really. Might have made a few keyboard warriors feel better. The tournament would have lost money, other teams would have probably resented the decision especially Nepal and would have lost out on some valuable match practice before the world cup.

Might have actually been better to just postpone the entire Asia Cup until the next available window and have it using the hybrid model outside of the rainy season in Sri Lanka. Then we could have organised a tri series with Bang and SL in Pakistan instead to get match practice before world cup.
 
A lot of Pakistani journalist's, ex players, ex administrators and fans are all talk and hogwash. Prior to the Asia Cup, all these above stakeholders were slamming the PCB under the pretext that the PCB had no real standing in comparison to the BCCI and it will not take BCCI a second to put the PCB in their place and that boycotting the Asia Cup would do zilch to the BCCI. These people were very happy with the compromise that the PCB reached.

Now the same people are crying tears that the PCB should have shown more spine, self respect and even have boycotted the tournament.

The PCB should just ignore the above and continue its fiduciary duty of making the best possible decisions in the best interest of Pakistan Cricket.
 
I think the PCB have pulled off a blinder.

They managed to negotiate a deal despite the BCCI being unnecessarily belligerent and have once again successfully played international cricket in Pakistan - this time on a much larger scale.

The BCCI has came out of this looking petty and childish wheras the PCB has behaved relativelt maturely for once.

They deserve a lot of credit.
 
Boycotting does not make sense. Why alienate every nation? The team also needed the practice before the world cup.
 
Why are the PCB administrators and Pakistani fans so fond of the idea of boycotting tournaments lately?
 
No, I think the PCB should continue to maintain a positive mindset. You don't stoop to the BCCI's level and ruin your image along the way.

Instead, you can use this as goodwill for future negotiations when discussing longer tours in Pakistan with the other participants (i.e. Sri Lanka, Bangladesh).

Not everything is about India.
 
The Asia Cup games in Pakistan this time have been well organized, well attended and with good batting wickets.

Next time the PCB has the opportunity to propose that either India plays its games in Pakistan or in the worst case scenario adopt the hybrid model of playing their games in the UAE. The CT is in 2025 and the PCB should now be perfectly clear and aware of what to expect from the BCCI, the rest of the cricketing boards and what preperations, planning they need to do to hold an international tournament in Pakistan
 
Should’ve boycotted the moment India refused to come to Pakistan.

Can’t believe some people are still maintaining their stance prior to the Asia after everything that has unfolded in the past week.

1. Having a hybrid model for the Asia Cup because ONE team refused to come will mean other countries will also want a hybrid model when it comes to CT25.

2. Whilst the host nation was forced to travel immediately after matches to Sri Lanka, India remained in one location.

3. Because of BCCI’s decision to hold the tournament in SL, we’re now at a risk of losing out of 3 IndoPak games. Will the PCB be compensated for the non sales of tickets? NOPE.

4. Pakistan and Bangladesh just played a Super 4 game on Wednesday, one day after the last group stage match. The next Super 4 match will be held 3 days after. I have never ever seen a tournament of any sport anywhere in the world where you go from Group Stage to the first game of the next stage ONE DAY after and then a rest for the other teams for 3 days. Imagine a QF and SF of the WC being held 1 day a part and the second SF being held 3 days later.

5. ACC could prevent PCB from playing Naseem Shaheen and Rauf against India in the Asia Cup, @Savak will still be looking at the positives. 🤣
 
saqib.rai said:
Should Pakistan have boycotted the Asia Cup to send a message to the ICC and member boards that taking a tournament away from Pakistan without proper justification will result in Pakistan boycotting the event. So they would be more cautious when it comes to the Champions Trophy?

Was never in favour of making threats to boycott the World Cup. Boycotting the World Cup would have been disastrous- PCB gets estimately 35 million dollars every year from the ICC. This money is vital is sustaining the cricket ecosystem in the country. Plus it would have deprived Babar, Shaheen, Rizwan, Shadab, Naseem to lift a World Cup in their prime. So Thank God we are going to the World Cup.

But the revenue from the Asia Cup is peanuts as compared to the World Cup? So why lose our dignity over a meaningless tournament that Virat Kohli choose to skip in 2018 citing 'workload management'. Just goes to show the value of the Asia Cup.

So why didn't the PCB boycott? Was it revenue, or not wanting to spoil relationship with ACC members? What can be the reason? Let's discuss
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I put down "not sure" but there are other ways to pull your weight. PCB is the 3rd highest earner (or 4th depending on CA), they are by no means a small board and have a tonne of fan backing, sponsors and viewership. There is also a relationship with the ICC and other boards which are positive (ECB, CA, CSA etc). What they should have done is what many were discussing:

Put down a marker for the BCCI, if they refuse to travel to Pakistan for Asia Cup games then accept that India can play away from Pakistan but other teams have to play in Pak and the final can be at a neutral venue also, maybe UAE. However, it also works the other way around, so use the threat of boycotting the world cup and instead counter BCCI with "we won't play any world cup games in India"...done. There would have been negotiations and Pakistan would have settled with neutral venue world cup games barring maybe the final because for all this negativity and beta syndrome many Pakistanis have, the reality is no one in the ICC wants to lose Pakistan during a major tournament.

But the PCB had no idea how to negotiate and lurched from one disaster to another.
 
owenhcricket said:
I put down "not sure" but there are other ways to pull your weight. PCB is the 3rd highest earner (or 4th depending on CA), they are by no means a small board and have a tonne of fan backing, sponsors and viewership. There is also a relationship with the ICC and other boards which are positive (ECB, CA, CSA etc). What they should have done is what many were discussing:

Put down a marker for the BCCI, if they refuse to travel to Pakistan for Asia Cup games then accept that India can play away from Pakistan but other teams have to play in Pak and the final can be at a neutral venue also, maybe UAE. However, it also works the other way around, so use the threat of boycotting the world cup and instead counter BCCI with "we won't play any world cup games in India"...done. There would have been negotiations and Pakistan would have settled with neutral venue world cup games barring maybe the final because for all this negativity and beta syndrome many Pakistanis have, the reality is no one in the ICC wants to lose Pakistan during a major tournament.

But the PCB had no idea how to negotiate and lurched from one disaster to another.
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That was the first hybrid model that the PCB proposed- that India can play its games at a neutral venue and all other games can be played in Pakistan but was turned down by the ACC as the tournament would have been a logistical nightmare. The ACC were willing to organize the Asia Cup WITHOUT Pakistan. So there was nothing the PCB could do apart from 1) play the Asia Cup in the current hybrid model 2) boycott

For the World Cup, it would have gone ahead WITHOUT Pakistan if we had refused to travel to India. This would have been a massive blunder that would have negatively impacted our cricketing future which our government avoided. Thank God.

Our economy is estimately 9-10 times smaller than that of India. We just cannot compete with them at the ICC. They would continue to have massive influence over all other boards.

My point is now the ICC and BCCI think that we can only make threats but do NOTHING. If we had boycotted a meaningless tournament such as the Asia Cup, they would have known that if they shift even one match of the Champions Trophy from Pakistan, they would risk the defending Champions pulling out. This would have been very bad for the ICC's image as now all countries have visited Pakistan, so they would have been called India's pet on international media.

BUT now both ICC and BCCI know they can give us only one home match and 2-3 matches of the Champions Trophy and we would happily accept that.
 
Let's be clear.

The PCB had threatened boycotting the Asia Cup and even the WC.

Jay Shah responded no problem we will hold a 5 nations tournament in India and replace the Pakistani team with another team. With regards to the losses Star Sports would have faced in the abscence of three Indo Pak contests, Jay Shah responded no problem, i will invite a major team to India and help Star Sports recover the losses.

With regards to boycotting the WC, Jay Shah said Np, we will replace the Pakistani team with the WI. Good luck to the PCB trying to recoup their $16.5 million share.

Let's be brutally honest here, the PCB had no real options or cards to play with. The BCCI were kind enough to allow some matches in Pakistan which was a win for the PCB itself. The PCB is better off trying to negotiate and get things in their favour with the BCCI as the alternative is much worse
 
Savak said:
Let's be clear.

The PCB had threatened boycotting the Asia Cup and even the WC.

Jay Shah responded no problem we will hold a 5 nations tournament in India and replace the Pakistani team with another team. With regards to the losses Star Sports would have faced in the abscence of three Indo Pak contests, Jay Shah responded no problem, i will invite a major team to India and help Star Sports recover the losses.

With regards to boycotting the WC, Jay Shah said Np, we will replace the Pakistani team with the WI. Good luck to the PCB trying to recoup their $16.5 million share.

Let's be brutally honest here, the PCB had no real options or cards to play with. The BCCI were kind enough to allow some matches in Pakistan which was a win for the PCB itself. The PCB is better off trying to negotiate and get things in their favour with the BCCI as the alternative is much worse
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Yes with regards to the World Cup, it would have been PCB's loss. Its 35 million dollars not 16.5. Plus we would have had to face isolation at the ICC level.

But there would have been little to no damage if we had boycotted the Asia Cup. It's a meaningless tournament anyways. Atleast this would have sent a clear message to the ICC and BCCI that Pakistan has the guts to boycott if we take a tournament away from them without a valid reason. And then maybe, India would have visited for the Champions Trophy.
 
saqib.rai said:
That was the first hybrid model that the PCB proposed- that India can play its games at a neutral venue and all other games can be played in Pakistan but was turned down by the ACC as the tournament would have been a logistical nightmare. The ACC were willing to organize the Asia Cup WITHOUT Pakistan. So there was nothing the PCB could do apart from 1) play the Asia Cup in the current hybrid model 2) boycott

For the World Cup, it would have gone ahead WITHOUT Pakistan if we had refused to travel to India. This would have been a massive blunder that would have negatively impacted our cricketing future which our government avoided. Thank God.

Our economy is estimately 9-10 times smaller than that of India. We just cannot compete with them at the ICC. They would continue to have massive influence over all other boards.

My point is now the ICC and BCCI think that we can only make threats but do NOTHING. If we had boycotted a meaningless tournament such as the Asia Cup, they would have known that if they shift even one match of the Champions Trophy from Pakistan, they would risk the defending Champions pulling out. This would have been very bad for the ICC's image as now all countries have visited Pakistan, so they would have been called India's pet on international media.

BUT now both ICC and BCCI know they can give us only one home match and 2-3 matches of the Champions Trophy and we would happily accept that.
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You're not seeing the big picture. At no point did the PCB use their biggest bargaining chip which is the draw that their team is and has always been. I won't regurgitate what I've already said but I will repeat, many Pakistanis come across as defeatists because they have little understanding or knowledge of recent events and what the financial model of the ICC even wins.

I won't go back and forth on it but I think most here agree the PCB completely messed this up.
 
owenhcricket said:
You're not seeing the big picture. At no point did the PCB use their biggest bargaining chip which is the draw that their team is and has always been. I won't regurgitate what I've already said but I will repeat, many Pakistanis come across as defeatists because they have little understanding or knowledge of recent events and what the financial model of the ICC even wins.

I won't go back and forth on it but I think most here agree the PCB completely messed this up.
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Please dont tell me you are one of those who believe that "80%" off ICC event revenue is generated from India vs Pakistan match? Lol
 
Should have hosted Bangladesh and Srilanka for a tri-nation series, BCCI doesn't want PCB to make any money.
 
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Savak said:
Let's be clear.

The PCB had threatened boycotting the Asia Cup and even the WC.

Jay Shah responded no problem we will hold a 5 nations tournament in India and replace the Pakistani team with another team. With regards to the losses Star Sports would have faced in the abscence of three Indo Pak contests, Jay Shah responded no problem, i will invite a major team to India and help Star Sports recover the losses.

With regards to boycotting the WC, Jay Shah said Np, we will replace the Pakistani team with the WI. Good luck to the PCB trying to recoup their $16.5 million share.

Let's be brutally honest here, the PCB had no real options or cards to play with. The BCCI were kind enough to allow some matches in Pakistan which was a win for the PCB itself. The PCB is better off trying to negotiate and get things in their favour with the BCCI as the alternative is much worse
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Great post. It will be interesting to see the responses to this.
 
kingusama92 said:
No, I think the PCB should continue to maintain a positive mindset. You don't stoop to the BCCI's level and ruin your image along the way.

Instead, you can use this as goodwill for future negotiations when discussing longer tours in Pakistan with the other participants (i.e. Sri Lanka, Bangladesh).

Not everything is about India.
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Why all the drama then? should have conducted Asia cup in Pakistan w/o India.
 
There was a lot of talk and hot air, but there was no way PCB was going to boycott the tournament.

But now, they want to claim for losses in not hosting it. Shouldn't this have been sorted out before the tournament started.
 
rpant_gabba said:
Why all the drama then? should have conducted Asia cup in Pakistan w/o India.
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It wouldn't have gone through.

There's a delicate balance here as the others have a positive relationship with both the BCCI and PCB. They won't cut one for the other.

PCB has to accept this reality and continue to build its relations with the other boards.

Boycotting the Asia Cup (or the upcoming WC) would have hurt the other boards too.
 
Saj said:
There was a lot of talk and hot air, but there was no way PCB was going to boycott the tournament.

But now, they want to claim for losses in not hosting it. Shouldn't this have been sorted out before the tournament started.
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But Saj Bhai, why couldn't we boycott the Asia Cup? The revenue we would get is not substantial enough, it's a meaningless tournament otherwise Virat wouldn't have skipped it in 2018.

Just imagine for a minute that we would have boycotted the Asia Cup, the ICC and BCCI would have been more cautious when the time would have come to decide whether to host the WHOLE Champions Trophy in Pakistan or not.

For the World Cup- I understand the revenue is a lot more, and our relationship with ICC and member boards would have been deteriorated beyond repair if we had decided to skip it. Thank God we are going for the World Cup but I just can't find any logic why we couldn't boycott the Asia Cup.
 
kingusama92 said:
It wouldn't have gone through.

There's a delicate balance here as the others have a positive relationship with both the BCCI and PCB. They won't cut one for the other.

PCB has to accept this reality and continue to build its relations with the other boards.

Boycotting the Asia Cup (or the upcoming WC) would have hurt the other boards too.
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Then status quo will be there forever.

Odds of Indian team traveling to Pakistan are very low
Odds of India-Pakistan bilateral series are very low

These two are PCB main goals. The rest of boards and ICC are not bothered if these two don't happen.

What exactly is PCB's path forward?
 
The biggest beneficiary in India-Pakistan cricket not happening is the ICC. Broadcasters pay good money for ICC events as that event also brings the elusive 'India-Pakistan match' which only happens once a year. If both countries start playing cricket regularly, then the broadcaster money for ICC events will decrease.

ICC also doesn't like the Asia Cup for the same reason. So boycotting Asia Cup would have actually improved our relationship with the ICC lol
 
No.

If cricket goes on like this for too long. Fans will boycott such tournaments, rendering them useless and extinct very soon.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Why couldn't PCB host the Asia Cup without India?

What will they do when India refuses to come for CT 2025?
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Why did India not follow through on their threats to host a tournament without Pakistan and pay a bribe to star sports?

Once you have the answer to that question then you will figure out the answer to yours.
 
owenhcricket said:
You're not seeing the big picture. At no point did the PCB use their biggest bargaining chip which is the draw that their team is and has always been. I won't regurgitate what I've already said but I will repeat, many Pakistanis come across as defeatists because they have little understanding or knowledge of recent events and what the financial model of the ICC even wins.

I won't go back and forth on it but I think most here agree the PCB completely messed this up.
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If Pakistan team can generate so much revenue, why doesn't PCBs broadcast deals reflect that?
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Why did India not follow through on their threats to host a tournament without Pakistan and pay a bribe to star sports?

Once you have the answer to that question then you will figure out the answer to yours.
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Because Pakistan agreed that most of the Asia cup will be in Sri Lanka.
 
The last 4 Asia Cups have been absolutely disastrous for Pakistan.


In 2016, many considered Pakistan a real threat with the return of Aamir and with a lineup that had experienced batsmen like Shoaib Malik.

However, PAK did not make the final and were beaten by BD and then had a horrible World T20.

2018

Pakistan came in as overwhelming favourites after CT win. India were depleted without Kohli and Bangladesh without Tamim.
While PAK had CT match winners like Hasan, Shadab, Fakhar , Aamir etc.

Two humiliations by India and then a narrow defeat to BD spread chaos in the Pakistan camp and Mickey had to bring back the likes of Mohammad Hafeez - throwing World Cup plans in disarray and led to a horror run culminating in a thumping loss to Windies


2022

Pakistan once again entered as favourites boasting the best T20 bowling attack in the world .

But 2 consecutive thrashings by SL exposed frailties in the side and Pakistan had a disastrous start to the World T20.

2023

Came in to the Asia Cup as the number 1 ODI team with the best pace trio , the number 1 ODI batsman in the world.
But after the thrashing at the hands of India broke Pakistan's morale , it got worse with a narrow loss to 8th ranked SL.
Premier fast bowler has been ruled out and Pakistan are now unsure of Fakhar.


This seems to be a trend with Pakistan where they go in as favourites but then everything goes awry and it affects their next ICC tournament.

Should Pakistan just bite the bullet , say no to this toxic relationship with Asia Cup and say "No more". Discuss.
 
If Bharat was in a similar situation, I would have preferred us boycotting rather than going after being treated like that by fellow boards in the Asianbloc.
 
cricketjoshila said:
ICC has no power over government of India.

As things stand today, Indian team isn't traveling to Pakistan.

There is a very small chance of this changing.
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Dont know about Asia cup.

But I personally think CT 2025 should take place in Pakistan without India.

That will show 2 things.

I. International tournaments can be held without Indian paycheck.
2 If the tournament ends smoothly, Pakistan can prove that international cricket can be safely played in Pakistan.


However, I fear India will pressurise ICC to move Champions Trophy out of Pakistan on the premise the government wont give clearance.

That would be quite unfair but I feel BCCI will do it.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
Dont know about Asia cup.

But I personally think CT 2025 should take place in Pakistan without India.

That will show 2 things.

I. International tournaments can be held without Indian paycheck.
2 If the tournament ends smoothly, Pakistan can prove that international cricket can be safely played in Pakistan.


However, I fear India will pressurise ICC to move Champions Trophy out of Pakistan on the premise the government wont give clearance.

That would be quite unfair but I feel BCCI will do it.
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And if it is moved out of Pakistan, should Pakistan participate?
 
Asad T said:
And if it is moved out of Pakistan, should Pakistan participate?
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We have no choice and false bravado is useless.

We can stuff as many pillows in a chick as we want to make it look healthy.

But a chick remains, at the end, a chick.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
Dont know about Asia cup.

But I personally think CT 2025 should take place in Pakistan without India.

That will show 2 things.

I. International tournaments can be held without Indian paycheck.
2 If the tournament ends smoothly, Pakistan can prove that international cricket can be safely played in Pakistan.


However, I fear India will pressurise ICC to move Champions Trophy out of Pakistan on the premise the government wont give clearance.

That would be quite unfair but I feel BCCI will do it.
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Thats just not possible. The broadcaster Star Sports which is paying billions for the 8 year cycle of ICC tournaments is Indian, so any ICC tournament cannot take place without India.

Our best case scenario would be that Pakistan and India are in separate groups. Our group matches take place in Pakistan, the other groups matches take place in UAE. We get one semi-final as well.

But ICC would never agree to have India and Pakistan in different groups. So in that case, our best case scenario would be that

One groups matches are held in Pindi and Lahore
Our and India's group matches are held in Karachi and Dubai. India plays all its 3 matches in Dubai.

And we get one semi-final as well

HOWEVER, IF THE ICC ACTS LIKE ACC AND TELLS US TO ACCEPT A HYDRID MODEL WHERE THE INITIAL 2-3 GAMES ARE PLAYED IN PAKISTAN AND THEN THE TOURNAMENT SHIFTS TO UAE, WE SHOULD BOYCOTT

But I predict with we play even if only 2-3 matches are held in Pakistan
 
Dr_Bassim said:
Dont know about Asia cup.

But I personally think CT 2025 should take place in Pakistan without India.

That will show 2 things.

I. International tournaments can be held without Indian paycheck.
2 If the tournament ends smoothly, Pakistan can prove that international cricket can be safely played in Pakistan.


However, I fear India will pressurise ICC to move Champions Trophy out of Pakistan on the premise the government wont give clearance.

That would be quite unfair but I feel BCCI will do it.
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1.Is that possible considering the fact that 90 per cent of the value of the present ICC broadcast deal is for the Indian territory?

2. Agreed.

PCB has the choice of offering to compensate the ICC for any losses they incur due to India's absence. That's the only way ICC will hold the tournament in Pakistan without India. Or PCB must convince all boards to take losses.

Because as things stand, government won't give clearance.
 
In hindsight, yes. But depends on how much $ has been raked in due to Pakistan being hosts. I am pretty sure it's a considerable amount for the PCB.
 
After recent dovelement ( increasing in terrorist activities in J&K) I don't think Indian government allowed Indian cricket team to tour Pakistan.
 
Devadwal said:
After recent dovelement ( increasing in terrorist activities in J&K) I don't think Indian government allowed Indian cricket team to tour Pakistan.
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Did they know this before also when they were taking decision about Asia Cup?
 
PCB is a greedy board and wants to milk dollars from BCCI as much as possible, no matter how much BCCI mistreats them.
No way they would have boycotted Asia cup and same story for Champions Trophy as India ain't coming in 2025.
Hopefully PCB is brave enough to continue Champions Trophy without India.
 
hoshiarpurexpress said:
PCB is a greedy board and wants to milk dollars from BCCI as much as possible, no matter how much BCCI mistreats them.
No way they would have boycotted Asia cup and same story for Champions Trophy as India ain't coming in 2025.
Hopefully PCB is brave enough to continue Champions Trophy without India.
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Acha so the BCCI runs cricket for charity, does it?
 
MenInG said:
Acha so the BCCI runs cricket for charity, does it?
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Well they also milk money but it is a one sided relationship where they hold the power and get there way, like they did with Asia Cup. PCB just rolls over.For once PCB should have shown some spine and told BCCI to come to Pakistan as Asia Cup will happen in Pakistan completely, with our without India.
BCCI off course is the most greedy board raking in so much money and always finding loopholes to make money off Pakistan, but at there convenience.
 
I repeat that there is zero chance of India travelling for champions trophy in 2025.
Let's see how PCB responds.
 
Surprisingly, PCB handled this whole Asia Cup situation in the most balanced and mature manner. Credit where it's due... maybe they've learnt the lessons the harsh way thanks to all those self goals since 2008.

BCCI were all set to go nuclear on them but Sethi did a wonderful job at extinguishing the initial fire .
 
Yep. I guess we are not going to see India traveling for the Champions Trophy 2025 in Pakistan. PCB is not gonna respond aggressively to that and I don't like the idea of another hybrid model stuff. Tournment host is Pakistan and we should have all matches in Pakistan regardless of whether India coming or not.
hoshiarpurexpress said:
I repeat that there is zero chance of India travelling for champions trophy in 2025.
Let's see how PCB responds.
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hoshiarpurexpress said:
I repeat that there is zero chance of India travelling for champions trophy in 2025.
Let's see how PCB responds.
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It's as predictable as sunrise and sunset...

All the India games will be played in the UAE plus one semi final and possibly the final as well. Luckily, the tournament is scheduled in Feb-March, so there won't be any heat related issues in Dubai.

We might possibly see India and Pakistan placed in different groups for once in order to allow Pak to play all their games at home. But don't be surprised if that doesn't happen (thanks to the broadcaster pressure) and Pakistan are made to play India in Dubai..
 
Guys just wait for April-May 2024 when the elections are set to take place in India.

You will see a tweet from a high ranking offical in the BCCI that "India will not travel to Pakistan for the Champions Trophy and we demand the ICC to shift the WHOLE Champions Trophy out of Pakistan."

Then our Chairman, Officals, Politicians, Ex-Cricketers, Journalists, YouTubers would put out statements everyday WITHOUT any response from the BCCI. they would choose silence

However, we would be on the backfoot at ICC meetings as India has demanded the WHOLE tournament to be shifted out of Pakistan so a HYBRID MODEL would be our WIN.

Its just the matter of the kind of HYBRID model we eventually accept.

We should demand Karachi and Dubai as venues for our's and India's group with India playing its 3 matches in Dubai.

The other group's matches can take place in Pindi and Lahore

And one semi-final in Lahore.

BUT IF WE ACCEPT A HYBRID MODEL LIKE THE ASIA CUP, THAT WOULD BE EMBARRASSING. Where we get to host initial 2-3 matches and then the whole tournament shifts to a neutral venue.
 
hoshiarpurexpress said:
I repeat that there is zero chance of India travelling for champions trophy in 2025.
Let's see how PCB responds.
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Lol, another hybrid model proposal. Will UAE be an option for India games given the short travelling distance from Pakistan to UAE vs Pakistan and Sri Lanka. Most importantly will the weather be pleasant for ODI Cricket at that time in the UAE?
 
Savak said:
Lol, another hybrid model proposal. Will UAE be an option for India games given the short travelling distance from Pakistan to UAE vs Pakistan and Sri Lanka. Most importantly will the weather be pleasant for ODI Cricket at that time in the UAE?
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Its in February-March so most probably UAE as the other host
 
saqib.rai said:
Its in February-March so most probably UAE as the other host
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It should be easy to implement the following then

- All India games in the UAE ie Dubai, Abu Dhabi and Sharjah

- All the other games all over Pakistan

- If India reaches the Semi Final and Final then these games will take place in the UAE. If India doesn't reach the Semi Final or Final then these games will take place in Pakistan.

Given that the travelling time bw Pakistan and UAE is minimal and the weather in UAE at that time will be a non issue, the PCB should be able to propose a good hybrid model solution
 
This tournament and the build up and everything exposes a lot of weakness in every department. Board, captain, players.

Pathetic team with a pathetic approach with literally everything!
 
Savak said:
It should be easy to implement the following then

- All India games in the UAE ie Dubai, Abu Dhabi and Sharjah

- All the other games all over Pakistan

- If India reaches the Semi Final and Final then these games will take place in the UAE. If India doesn't reach the Semi Final or Final then these games will take place in Pakistan.

Given that the travelling time bw Pakistan and UAE is minimal and the weather in UAE at that time will be a non issue, the PCB should be able to propose a good hybrid model solution
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Yes this is how it should be BUT

It has to be in one UAE venue. If you look at Champions Trophy in 2013 and 2017, they were held across only 3 venues.

More venues mean broadcasters need to have team and equipment at all venues which increases the cost. This was an issue raised during this Asia Cup as well.

AND

Semi-final and final ticket sales usually open ATLEAST 100 days before. So a particular team qualifying or not qualifying cannot impact the venue.

Our best bet is that we get to host one semi-final. As India and Pakistan will be in the same group, so we cannot meet them in the semis. So that semi-final can take place in Pakistan
 
Honestly speaking the way Pakistan performed in this Asia Cup, they should have been boycotted.
 
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