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Rohit is not included in Indian team that is going to play against West Indies. This has prompted a few of ex players like Ganguly and Harbhajan to express surprise. Apparently they can't believe Rohit is not included.
Obviously they seem to be swayed by his Asia cup performance.
If we look at stats,he is averaging 39.97 after 25 games with 3 centuries and 9 fifties.
If you take only away games, then he is averaging 25.35 with 4 fifties and no hundred after 16 matches.
Have we seen enough of him in tests or he deserves another chance?
 
Rohit and Dhawan should play the test matches against Australia. The pitches will suit them and they won't do any worse than their replacements. Both of them play bounce very well.
 
No thanks. I am so happy that finally the selectors have managed to separate the formats. It is also commendable that the selectors have ignored the pressure on them to pick Rohit after the England debacle. Rohit and Dhawan are very good short form players and are not good enough in Tests. It is better to move on as there are young players who are good enough and are waiting for a spot in the X1.
 
Yes. The way he negotiates difficult conditions in ODI (just look at the asia cup), it's difficult to understand why he wouldn't do well in tests. People act like he averages 10 in test format, he averages a 39.97. And he's underperformed so far, if he gets in to form there it'd be 45 easy. Not to mention he has one of the best domestic first class records in history. His partner has been decent in tests in Dhawan with a far less adaptable technique and game for test cricket hence the poorer first class average.
 
Bilal7 said:
Rohit and Dhawan should play the test matches against Australia. The pitches will suit them and they won't do any worse than their replacements. Both of them play bounce very well.
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He failed in South Africa although you can argue that it was uneven bounce rather than just bounce that undid many batsmen.
 
No because it's unfair to pick him ahead of deserving batsmen who have done well for india a & ranji. Iyer,bawne,vihari,nair etc deserves first chance ahead of rohit.
 
A 32 year old making a comeback in Tests based on his ODI performance? Have we not learnt anything from the Yuvraj, Raina and now Dhawan experience (even though Rohit is a much better FC player vs them).

Rohit's problem is in playing the moving ball and he's not done anything to suggest he's overcome those problems. Much rather give chances to Vihari, Nair, Shreyas Iyer and Ankit Bawne. Picking Rohit will be taking a step back.

In fact if Rahane fails in the first test, he should be dropped from 2nd test and Nair given a chance.
 
No Thanks Please !

Rohit and Dhawan should better stick to LoI and IPL for rest of their careers... end of story :19:
 
Yes, Rohit got unnecessarily criticism when he failed in overseas conditions, and its not that the rest of the batsmen were doing any better. But because he's a far superior and glamorous ODI cricketer so he becomes an easy target for those oldies in commentator boxes who were only good at test cricket - read manjrekar and party. The guy has played what 6 or 7 matches in Aus/Eng/SA combined over 3 or 4 years and has already been declared a useless test player, while players who played 5 test matches in 2 months in England recently and scored 1 or 2 fifties are still supposed to be "test material". I would anyday pick Rohit over Pujara or Rahane, both of whom are as bad or as good as Rohit, their only USP is that they are only good for test cricket.
 
Considering how poor other Indian batsmen have performed in England tests, Rohit surely couldnt have done any worse. He is not too old and it is still worth a try..
 
Yes,if he succeeds in ODIs in aus he should be taken as an opener in australia in case shaw and mayank fail.His technique is well suited for australian conditions and he has never been tried as an opener.Should be given a last chance,but only if regular openers fail.
 
Bilal7 said:
Rohit and Dhawan should play the test matches against Australia. The pitches will suit them and they won't do any worse than their replacements. Both of them play bounce very well.
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Rohit might okay for Aus series at # 5 but Dhawan should Left out for test cricket FOREVER so others can tested till India finds Regular opener

Eventually Vijay might returns as opener because Class remains same but Forms are temporary
 
And we blame MSK Prasad for being clueless. :))

It's like people have never watched Rohit bat.

He plays down the wrong line.

Doesn't negate swing.

Struggles against seam.

Won't smother the spin properly.

Won't click in pressure moments in tests.

But he must open for us. Hehe.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
And we blame MSK Prasad for being clueless. :))

It's like people have never watched Rohit bat.

He plays down the wrong line.

Doesn't negate swing.

Struggles against seam.

Won't smother the spin properly.

Won't click in pressure moments in tests.

But he must open for us. Hehe.
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I would have batted him at no.6 in tests.

The points you mentioned above applied to 80% of Indian batsmen who featured in England where majority of them averaged poorly (hence the 4-1 scoreline)

I think Rohit needs one big score and a bit of confidence to get going in tests.
 
OyeOye said:
Rohit might okay for Aus series at # 5 but Dhawan should Left out for test cricket FOREVER so others can tested till India finds Regular opener

Eventually Vijay might returns as opener because Class remains same but Forms are temporary
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No going back to Vijay please.

Give the next 10 tests - vs WI, Aus and NZ to Rahul-Shaw combo with Mayank as reserve opener. Reserve middle order batsmen have to be Vihari and Nair with Ankit Bawne and Shreyas Iyer next in line.
 
It's stats time.

Average: 39.97

Average excluding WI and SL and Bangladesh: 27.53

Average away from home: 25.33

Average away from home excluding SL and WI and Bangladesh: 23.78

Series played: 12

Series with 40+ average: 4 (WI in India, NZ in India, SL in India, NZ in NZ)

Series with 30-40 average: 1

Series with 20-30 average: 2

Series with sub 20 average: 5

Average in Aus last time: 28.83
 
A big Nope. He got his chances to improve or prove himself and he didn't do either.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
It's stats time.

Average: 39.97

Average excluding WI and SL and Bangladesh: 27.53

Average away from home: 25.33

Average away from home excluding SL and WI and Bangladesh: 23.78

Series played: 12

Series with 40+ average: 4 (WI in India, NZ in India, SL in India, NZ in NZ)

Series with 30-40 average: 1

Series with 20-30 average: 2

Series with sub 20 average: 5

Average in Aus last time: 28.83
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Two stats
Average at home - 9 tests, 769 runs@85, 3 100s
Average away - 16 tests, 710 runs@25, 0 100s

Got enough chances, failed away from home. Dhawan and Vijay have been chucked out for their poor away record. Rohit has been worse.

Let him focus on ODIs and T20s.

I wrote this in some other thread, his brother in law Bunty Sajdeh is a huge name in sports management, he will get him huge publicity after Asia Cup success.
 
cricketindiafan said:
Two stats
Average at home - 9 tests, 769 runs@85, 3 100s
Average away - 16 tests, 710 runs@25, 0 100s

Got enough chances, failed away from home. Dhawan and Vijay have been chucked out for their poor away record. Rohit has been worse.

Let him focus on ODIs and T20s.

I wrote this in some other thread, his brother in law Bunty Sajdeh is a huge name in sports management, he will get him huge publicity after Asia Cup success.
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Damn....how did I miss that?

2 series where he averaged 200+ at home (WI, SL) transformed his stats.
 
He's worse than Dhawan who although holds a good record in NZ, has failed miserably in the rest of the SENA countries. Need to develop younger players who can develop and learn from Kohli's presence in the team. For me he is the player that an upcoming batsman should aspire to.
 
I get the impression that Rahane is on thin ice. If he fails against the West Indies, he'll deserve to be axed. In that event, there's every chance that :ravi will want Rohit to bat at 5 in Australia.
 
I believe he is the best player in the world currently not playing test cricket.
 
cricketindiafan said:
No going back to Vijay please.

Give the next 10 tests - vs WI, Aus and NZ to Rahul-Shaw combo with Mayank as reserve opener. Reserve middle order batsmen have to be Vihari and Nair with Ankit Bawne and Shreyas Iyer next in line.
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NZ tour doesn't include tests.

I think India are only playing 6 tests before the WC.
 
I don't think Rohit will get too many opportunities in tests anymore.

But I have to say that it is absolutely shocking that a batsman of his calibre hasn't been able to cement his place in the test side.
 
Bilal7 said:
Rohit and Dhawan should play the test matches against Australia. The pitches will suit them and they won't do any worse than their replacements. Both of them play bounce very well.
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RIP cricketing knowledge. They will be easily successful on Indian wickets againt mighty WI and then will be walking wickets in AUS. Should not waste time on them. Replacements and testing bench strengths should be the goal of this kind of series even if it means a series loss. They should not behave like PCB which keeps calling Hafeez back only to regret in long term.
 
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India should move on. Rohit is already 32 and even if he clicks now, he may have a good 2 or 3 years at max.

India should invest in Shaw, Pant, Gill etc. These guys if they click can serve India for over a decade.
 
India should look for winning home Test matches, winning abroad is not their cup of tea.. all talks and no result.
 
troodon said:
No.

India should move on. Rohit is already 32 and even if he clicks now, he may have a good 2 or 3 years at max.

India should invest in Shaw, Pant, Gill etc. These guys if they click can serve India for over a decade.
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Dont agree on age. 32 is still young.

Pant is a hack who will loose India matches with his poor wicket keeping alone.

Looking forward to see how Shaw performs. Don’t know anything about Gill.
 
K4Kohli said:
Hell No. Also we should get rid of Rahane asap
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Lol no. You need experience to win, especially overseas. You cannot go in to an overseas test series with 4 out of your top 6 having played less than 30 tests combined.

It's insane how much PP underrates experience.
 
Got a feeling he will hit couple of centuries in this test series. There is no Hardik Pandya so, rohit will play the first test.
 
Apparently his style is suited to Australian pitches due to his good back foot game. Selectors and team management using all excuses to justify his unjust comeback in tests. He played 3 tests on the last tour to Australia and threw away starts every single time.

Feel for poor Karun Nair. In June he was good enough to be the reserve middle order batsman for national side, since then first got pushed by Vihari and now Rohit, all this without getting a chance.
 
He will fail again. If he could not succeed 4 years ago against marginally weaker Aus attack, what makes him likely to score against much more seasoned and peaking combo of Starc+Hazlewood+Cummins+Lyon?

Expect him to play first 2 tests and score around 50 runs in total before being dropped for good.
 
Rohit Sharma's inclusion in India's Test side against Australia

Best player of bounce in India and has the capability to hit massive scores. We have seen almost all batsmen bar Kohli fail in the last few overseas series. Might as well allow Sharma to get a crack.

Especially considering the Ozzie conditions most probably won't allow much swing. Also, given the recent events, Ozzies shouldn't be getting much reverse too.
 
BreadPakoda said:
Best player of bounce in India and has the capability to hit massive scores. We have seen almost all batsmen bar Kohli fail in the last few overseas series. Might as well allow Sharma to get a crack.

Especially considering the Ozzie conditions most probably won't allow much swing. Also, given the recent events, Ozzies shouldn't be getting much reverse too.
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I think quote "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results" often miss attributed to Albert Einstein best explains the future result if Rohit is selected in the tests
 
Performing better than KL Rahul in the practice match against CA XI. There is no point picking an out of form and low confidence player ahead of an important test against Australia.
 
Rohit should get a chance in Aus. Aus test pitches are flatter than ODIs, amd Rohit loves bounce.
 
Sam99 said:
Nope it looks vihari will bat there from whatever i have seen in last few days. Rohit's chance is only if vihari fails badly in first two test.
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Could be. I wouldn't mind that. Vihari definitely hasn't done anything because of which he should be replaced.

My point was that if Rohit plays, it will be at no 6 only.
 
Ab Fan said:
Means 4 bowlers only??
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Yes definitely. India cannot play 5 bowlers because all the pacers are tailenders and Ashwin & Jadeja definitely won't be in the XI together.

The only way to play with 5 bowlers in SENA is by having Hardik in the side.

If you remember in the 5th test in England, where Hardik did not play, India went in with 6 batsmen and 4 bowlers.
 
Please no. He has hardly played any first class cricket for months. On what basis will his inclusion be justified? Because he's in good ODI form or that he played some great pull shots?

Better to play both two out of Bhuvi/Ashwin/Jadeja along with the 3 specialist pacers - Ishant, Bumrah and Shami/Umesh. Mt preferences would be Bhuvi, Jadeja, Ishant, Bumrah and Shami as the bottom 5 for the first test.

Shaw, Rahul, Pujara, Kohli, Rahane, Pant, Bhuvi, Jadeja, Ishant, Bumrah and Shami as the 11.
 
the_outsider said:
Yes definitely. India cannot play 5 bowlers because all the pacers are tailenders and Ashwin & Jadeja definitely won't be in the XI together.

The only way to play with 5 bowlers in SENA is by having Hardik in the side.

If you remember in the 5th test in England, where Hardik did not play, India went in with 6 batsmen and 4 bowlers.
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Good point. But not sure if neither of Ashwin or Jadeja will be there. What, according to your opinion, should India field in first test, considering the conditions as well?
 
Ab Fan said:
Good point. But not sure if neither of Ashwin or Jadeja will be there. What, according to your opinion, should India field in first test, considering the conditions as well?
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Hard to say without looking at the wicket.

The SCG pitch in which the practice game is currently being played has a lot of grass cover.

If that's the case in Adelaide then there's no point playing 2 spinners.

Having said that, Adelaide usually does offer some assistance to spinners. But at the same time, I don't think playing only 2 pacers in the side is a good idea.

Personally, I would strengthen the batting (India's current weak spot) with an extra batsman at no 6 so that I can forgo the batting of Ashwin and instead play India's most aggresive spinner - Kuldeep Yadav.

6 batsmen + Pant + Kuldeep + 3 pacers.

That would be my starting combination for the 1st test.
 
the_outsider said:
Hard to say without looking at the wicket.

The SCG pitch in which the practice game is currently being played has a lot of grass cover.

If that's the case in Adelaide then there's no point playing 2 spinners.

Having said that, Adelaide usually does offer some assistance to spinners. But at the same time, I don't think playing only 2 pacers in the side is a good idea.

Personally, I would strengthen the batting (India's current weak spot) with an extra batsman at no 6 so that I can forgo the batting of Ashwin and instead play India's most aggresive spinner - Kuldeep Yadav.

6 batsmen + Pant + Kuldeep + 3 pacers.

That would be my starting combination for the 1st test.
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Fair enough and yes, its hard to make a XI at this point.
 
cricketindiafan said:
Please no. He has hardly played any first class cricket for months. On what basis will his inclusion be justified? Because he's in good ODI form or that he played some great pull shots?
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But that's exactly how Butler came into the English test side - without playing any red ball cricket.

Having said that, I don't mind if we start with Vihari because he hasn't done anything to be dropped.
 
Ab Fan said:
Fair enough and yes, its hard to make a XI at this point.
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I think India's biggest headache in terms of playing XI right now is at the top of the order and at the bottom of the order:

1. Between KL & Vijay, who should start the series

2. Out of Ishant, Bumrah, Shami and Umesh - which 3 should play


I'm not counting Bhuvi because I don't think he's as potent in Australian conditions.





Personally, I would like to play Umesh in the side because he is very good with the old reverse swinging ball.

And in Australia playing with the kukaboorra, that phase becomes extremely important. Picking wickets with the old ball - once the seam of the ball disappears- becomes the differenciating factor in Australia.
 
This was my favourite move by Indian think tank. Considering how much India under perform in overseas tests, they couldnt have done any worse by giving Rohit another chance.

You got to take chances to win. If this move comes off, who knows, India might even win the test series in Australia.
 
I know it's a bit of a radical move, but with Rahul struggling it won't be a wholly bizarre idea to ask Sharma to open with Shaw. Of course, if this was England, South Africa, or New Zealand it would have been utterly ludicrous, but in Australia where the ball doesn't really swing it might just work. Who knows, it could be the making of Sharma the test cricketer.
 
My XI would be :
Kl
Vijay
Pujara
Kohli
Vihari
Rohit
Pant
Kuldeep
Ishant
Umesh
Bumrah

We need an extra batsman in Rohit in the absence of Shaw. Vihari can chip in with a few overs.
 
My starting XI:-

Vijay
Rahul
Pujara
Kohli
Rahane
Vihari
Pant(wkt)
Kuldeep
Shami
Ishant
Bumrah
 
I'd start with:

Rahul
Vijay
Pujara
Kohli
Rahane
Sharma
Pant
Kuldeep
Shami
Ishant
Bumrah

Kuldeep needs to be backed on Australian wickets if India are to win this series.
 
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