Should the BCCI cut cricketing ties with Bangladesh amidst human rights violations in Bangladesh against Hindus

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If we can take a hard stand on Pakistan then we can surely take a hard stand on Bangladeshiz with whom we don’t share a brotherly bonding like we do with Pakistanis.

I call upon BCCI to immediately follow the following :-

1. Complete ban on bilateral cricket with Bangladesh
2. Ban Bangladeshi cricketers from participating in IPL except of the Hindu community
 
Yeah they should but for bilateral cricket only. Asia cup and ICC tournaments are ok but only on neutral venues.

No other sports will be effected by the ban.

They don’t play other sports
 
Bangladesh is going through a time of great political and social upheaval. Alot of violence is taking place in the country that will take time to de-escalate. The violence against Hindus is deeply condemnable but please don't make this about India, because its not. Everything is not about India regardless of what you may think.

I can't even imagine applying this same principle to India where violence against Muslims has become completely normalized in recent years.
 
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What wrong has Bangladesh done to India or Indians? What they do in their country is none of our business.
 
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India is not the thekedaar of all the Hindus in the world. It's a secular nation with only it's own citizens' interests at it's heart. Yes what's happening in Bangladesh is terrible and we should be critical of it but that's where the matter should end.

Unless Bangladesh tries hurting Indian nationals (irrespective of religion) , we shouldn't cut of any ties.
 
Indians have a good habit of dropping their principles for money or world cup points.
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You guys don't get bored of this useless and lame strawman argument?

What are those principles exactly and how exactly are we breaking those by playing Pakistan in world cups? Never got a solid answer to this but I'll try again..
 
India is not the thekedaar of all the Hindus in the world.

Actually we are.
Bharat is the homeland of Sanatana
Dharma. The protection and future safety and progress of the Rashtra along with that of our Sanatani brothers rests firmly on our able shoulders till eternity.

We are to Hindus what Israel is to Jews.
 
Australia refuses to play Afghanistan because of their displeasure with Taliban take over.

England also cut their cricketing ties with Zimbabwe because of President Mugabe.

Things nothing new.
There is precedence to it.

Human life is more important than cricket.
 
If we can take a hard stand on Pakistan then we can surely take a hard stand on Bangladeshiz with whom we don’t share a brotherly bonding like we do with Pakistanis.

I call upon BCCI to immediately follow the following :-

1. Complete ban on bilateral cricket with Bangladesh
2. Ban Bangladeshi cricketers from participating in IPL except of the Hindu community
Not happening!
 
Australia refuses to play Afghanistan because of their displeasure with Taliban take over.

England also cut their cricketing ties with Zimbabwe because of President Mugabe.

Things nothing new.
There is precedence to it.

Human life is more important than cricket.
Your suggested actions will endanger millions of lives unnecessarily when there is scope of tolerable calm!
 
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You guys don't get bored of this useless and lame strawman argument?

What are those principles exactly and how exactly are we breaking those by playing Pakistan in world cups? Never got a solid answer to this but I'll try again..
@Rajdeep made a post about it and nailed the matter. I will try to find it and tag you.

It's clear that patriotic Indians like him and Pakistanis viewpoints are aligned on this matter.
 
You are free to cut ties. LOL.

I personally want to see ECB and CA taking over ICC. BCCI ruined ICC.
 
@Rajdeep made a post about it and nailed the matter. I will try to find it and tag you.

It's clear that patriotic Indians like him and Pakistanis viewpoints are aligned on this matter.

Bilateral cricket relations is different from a world event because the former presupposes good political relations between the two countries. This is not hard to understand.
 
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Bilateral cricket relations is different from a world event because the former presupposes good political relations between the two countries. This is not hard to understand.
Cutting ties during a world event will bring more attention to the alleged humanitarian issues.
 
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BCCI should also cut down ties with England for ruling on India back in the day and stealing their gold. South Africa also has a bad history in human rights violation. Australia border forces treated Indian players very badly long time ago. Sri Lanka killed Tamil Tigers. Afghanistan needs to do more on women rights.

I think BCCI should cut down ties with everyone and play three seasons of IPL every year.
 
Cutting ties during a world event will bring more attention to the alleged humanitarian issues.

And how did you assume that the motive for the bilateral boycott is to "bring attention" to any sort of issues?
 
Bilateral cricket relations is different from a world event because the former presupposes good political relations between the two countries. This is not hard to understand. Rajdeep is not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed.

Tens of posters have explained this simple a logic to the usual suspects here but they just want to keep their heads buried in the sand and force-laugh at the so called hypocrisy.

Probably, more to do with the frustration of seeing India hammer their side every year in the world events.
 
And how did you assume that the motive for the bilateral boycott is to "bring attention" to any sort of issues?
In the context of this thread what benefit will it bring Bangladeshi Hindus if India refuse to play bilateral but play one off world cup games?
 
One day India will only be playing against countries like Uganda, Zimbabwe and Namibia if they keep boycotting at this pace over such lame issues.
 
Let's be honest. India only cares about its 'principles' when tournament points are not on the line. When its about World Cup or Asia Cup points, all the principles go right out the window. There is no consistency, only hypocrisy.

So I don't know why certain Indian posters like to act all high and mighty. Maybe try quelling violence against Muslims in your own country before you go around trying to be the guardians and protectors of Hindus in Bangladesh.
 
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You guys don't get bored of this useless and lame strawman argument?

What are those principles exactly and how exactly are we breaking those by playing Pakistan in world cups? Never got a solid answer to this but I'll try again..
Don't you guys get tired of defending the same useless, lame and hypocritical argument?

India says that Pakistan is a sponsor of terrorism and we will not play bilateral cricket with them. So what happens in World Cups? Does Pakistan magically not become a sponsor of terrorism in that case? When England took a stand against what was happening in Zimbabwe in 2003, they forfeited their World Cup match and the points they could have earned from that match.

Either stand up for what you believe in or shut up.
 
Don't you guys get tired of defending the same useless, lame and hypocritical argument?

India says that Pakistan is a sponsor of terrorism and we will not play bilateral cricket with them. So what happens in World Cups? Does Pakistan magically not become a sponsor of terrorism in that case? When England took a stand against what was happening in Zimbabwe in 2003, they forfeited their World Cup match and the points they could have earned from that match.

Either stand up for what you believe in or shut up.
It’s all to cater to their hindutva fanatical population and fan base. A bilateral series means bhai bhai with the other country.. tournaments are one offs and India loves vanity and would never give up points in a major tournament
 
BCCI should boycott BCB for one bilateral tour, that will be enough anyways cricket and politics should not be mixed
 
BCB putting effort to host Women’s T20 World Cup

Bangladesh Cricket Board is putting its effort to keep the upcoming Women’s Twenty20 World Cup in Bangladesh as uncertainty looms on the fate of the global tournament’s hosts after the recent political turmoil in the country.

In this regard, BCB CEO Nizamuddin Chowdhury and seven other board directors - Akram Khan, Jalal Younus, Mahbub Anam, Khaled Mahmud Sujon, Ahmed Sajjadul Alam Bobby, Kazi Inam Ahmed and Iftekhar Rahman - met with the newly appointed adviser of the interim government for the Ministry of Youth and Sports, Asif Mahmud Sajeeb Bhuiyan Sunday.

Initiatives are required from the ministry level, alongside the BCB, at this moment as well as negotiations with the participating countries regarding ensuring security and other issues before Bangladesh prepares to host the world event, scheduled to be held from October 3-20 in Dhaka and Sylhet.

It was learnt that four countries - Australia, England, India and New Zealand - have imposed advisories for their citizens for traveling to Bangladesh.

The International Cricket Council has already communicated with the BCB about the future of the multi-nation women’s tournament.

Reports also emerged that ICC looked for alternative back-up options in the United Arab Emirates, India and Sri Lanka.

BCB is in jeopardy due to the unrest in the country triggered by the student protest against the just dissolved Sheikh Hasina government with board president Nazmul Hasan currently in hiding along with a few other board directors.

But a few other influential board directors are trying to normalize the situation, by continuing BCB’s regular works and taking necessary steps to make sure that Bangladesh can successfully organize the 10-team global event.

“We talked to BCB about the Women’s T20 World Cup. Among the agendas, the most important is to ensure security, there is some work to be done in that regard. Today I will talk in details about this with Yunus sir at Jamuna (residence of Dr Muhammad Yunus, chief adviser of the interim government). He is a sports lover, he will assist us on this matter,” said Asif Mahmud to the media Sunday.

“We will ensure foolproof security, some countries have travel-related restrictions, let’s see how we can solve those. There are a few infrastructural issues as well. But the honorable secretary provided assurance that with time those will be taken care of.”

He added: “The person who holds such an important position as the board president, he is unavailable now. But the BCB is a federation within the ICC so we cannot just take a decision. The BCB directors will look into this matter, how to solve this issue as per ICC guidelines. They will let us know if anyone needs to be recruited in the interim for this, we will keep the process ongoing.”

Bangladesh teams are currently busy with their international schedules with the national men’s side set to depart for Pakistan Monday for the two-match Test series.

Bangladesh A team are already in Pakistan for their month-long series and the Bangladesh High Performance side are now in Australia playing the Top End T20 Series.


 
Bangladesh is going through a time of great political and social upheaval. Alot of violence is taking place in the country that will take time to de-escalate. The violence against Hindus is deeply condemnable but please don't make this about India, because its not. Everything is not about India regardless of what you may think.

I can't even imagine applying this same principle to India where violence against Muslims has become completely normalized in recent years.
This is 100% about india and Hindus.

For god shale they are not even spare Cow , temples and shamshan ghat etc

I Full agree we should cut ties with them .
 
What wrong has Bangladesh done to India or Indians? What they do in their country is none of our business.
Why is Australia not playing bilateral series with Afghanistan .has Taliban done anything's directly related to Australia .
 
India says that Pakistan is a sponsor of terrorism and we will not play bilateral cricket with them. So what happens in World Cups? Does Pakistan magically not become a sponsor of terrorism in that case? When England took a stand against what was happening in Zimbabwe in 2003, they forfeited their World Cup match and the points they could have earned from that match.

England didn't play in Zimbabwe because they got literal death threats from the Mugabe thugs and even requested the ICC to shift the venues before the tournament. They were ready to play Zimbabwe in another venue. They didn't boycott due to some "principle" lol.

Don't know why people don't do minimum research before embarassing themselves like this
 
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In the context of this thread what benefit will it bring Bangladeshi Hindus if India refuse to play bilateral but play one off world cup games?


You have made up your mind about the Indian motive behind the boycott 🤣
 
England didn't play in Zimbabwe because they got literal death threats from the Mugabe thugs and even requested the ICC to shift the venues before the tournament. They were ready to play Zimbabwe in another venue. They didn't boycott due to some "principle" lol.

Don't know why people don't do minimum research before embarassing themselves like this
The English did not want to go Zimbabwe. The death threats came at the end, let's just say it was quite convenient.


When the final vote came, the squad were unanimous in not travelling on moral grounds. Only at that moment did a potential way out of the whole mess present itself.
Some months before, while England were in Australia, the ECB received a threat from a group calling itself the Sons and Daughters of Zimbabwe. It said: "Come to Zimbabwe and you will go back to Britain in wooden coffins."
The players were not told until the last moment, when security advice to take threat seriously filtered through.
"I was pretty sure, and remain to this day pretty sure, that it was a hoax," says Lamb.
Hussain shares reservations about its validity, but was not in a position to take a chance.

"I couldn't say 'don't worry, it's a hoax'," he says. "Probably 999 times out of 1,000 you get it right, but that one time you get it wrong…
"This isn't like bowling Jimmy Anderson one over too many. When there are death threats to the team and their family, you can't say 'this could be a hoax', you have to take it seriously.
"When some of the team saw it, they took it seriously. If we hadn't made any fuss, I don't think that letter would have emerged."
England were concerned their players would have to shake hands with Robert Mugabe, seen here with ex-Australia captain Steve Waugh in Harare in 1999, but they were later assured that wouldn't be expected of them
Lamb visited Speed and told him England would not fulfil the fixture on security grounds, though in reality the players had decided they would not have travelled anyway. Still, the death threat was not enough to convince the ICC that England had grounds to pull out. The game did not take place and the four points were awarded to Zimbabwe.


Even the ICC were unconvinced.

 
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Our next series itself is with Bangladesh and no we need not cut ties with them. It is a sport and pls take it as a sport. If anything, we must take extra motivation to beat them even more. Cutting cricket ties etc is so Manmohan Singh kind of retribution and India has way past that stage. I am not in favour of cutting cricket ties with Pakistan either and believe we should visit there during Champions trophy. As an Indian cricket fan, nothing will give me more happiness than beating them and lifting the cup in Lahore.

Cricket aside though, there are a lot of things India can do politically so that it don't become another Pakistan or Bangladesh (the shinning lights of Sub continent).
 
@bhaijan I know you are passionate about being sanatani and all that but you should be stop living in lała land and accept the ground realities that India is itself not powerful enough to even control its own country and it’s minorities let alone poking their nose in to another’s country internal matters.
 
Indian government first should make sure that no human being there sleep without food in his stomach and then talk about other stuff.
 
Indian government first should make sure that no human being there sleep without food in his stomach and then talk about other stuff.
BCCI is a private body though and not responsible to provide food to the stomach. Its primary job is to run Indian cricket and they have done a commendable job. Back in the 90s, both BCCI & PCB were at equal footings and both these boards were sub servient to MCC. However due to the hard work of BCCI officials over the years and due to cricket's popularity in India, it is now the richest cricket board, owns the richest cricket league and 3rd richest across all sports. From being sub servient to MCC, now boards like ECB & ACB line up outside BCCIs office for a cricket series with India.
 
They are already minnow after playing cricket for more than 2 decades .

No improvement at all .
that i can agree 100%, jokes aside I said in this forum BD was given test status to early. without any preparation we started playing the big boys in our early days and got smacked the living daylight out of us. it did more harm to the morale of the team. BD should have come like how Afg, Ireland came playing tier cricket

Banning BD cricket is not the answer though. Its a huge cricket loving country. Fans will be fans, there will be good ones and band ones. losing such a cricket crazy nation when there are not that much cricket nations to begin with will be a loss for cricket. Instead of banning I would support relegating it from test status. let BD play Tier 1 teams, Play Qualification Tournament for the World Cups and qualify for the world cups based on merit
 
Lol what a dumb comparison!!

England didn't play in Zimbabwe because they got literal death threats from the Mugabe thugs and even requested the ICC to shift the venues before the tournament. They were ready to play Zimbabwe in another venue. They didn't boycott due to some "principle" lol.

Don't know why people don't do minimum research before embarassing themselves like this
Instead of giving passive aggressive responses like the one you just gave why don't you respond to the very basic contradiction in India's stance? If you believe that a country is a sponsor of terrorism and you don't want to play with them, then that extends not just to all forms of cricket but also all types of sports.

India's stance is hypocritical, contradictory and self-serving. When it doesn't hurt them, they don't play Pakistan. When World Cup points are on the line, principles go right out the window. Zero consistency, all hypocrisy.
 
Instead of giving passive aggressive responses like the one you just gave why don't you respond to the very basic contradiction in India's stance? If you believe that a country is a sponsor of terrorism and you don't want to play with them, then that extends not just to all forms of cricket but also all types of sports.

India's stance is hypocritical, contradictory and self-serving. When it doesn't hurt them, they don't play Pakistan. When World Cup points are on the line, principles go right out the window. Zero consistency, all hypocrisy.
Actually it is to the contrary. Their stance has been very consistent. Has not changed for over a decade.

I agree that India's stance is hypocritical. But sad or worse part is that the other side goes along with it. Has gone along for a dozen or so years. Sure there have been some "bold" statements. But no action. And the that is the key. Action. The other side need to act to bring about change. But greed and selfishness reigns supreme.
 
Actually it is to the contrary. Their stance has been very consistent. Has not changed for over a decade.

I agree that India's stance is hypocritical. But sad or worse part is that the other side goes along with it. Has gone along for a dozen or so years. Sure there have been some "bold" statements. But no action. And the that is the key. Action. The other side need to act to bring about change. But greed and selfishness reigns supreme.
Oh my bad I guess what I meant to say was India's stance is consistently hypocritical.

I don't see how the other side is relevant here considering its India's stance to not play cricket with Pakistan, not Pakistan's stance. And even if Pakistan had a choice, they are not in any kind of position of power to have their way. So no, that is not the "sad or worse" part of it. The sad and worst part of it is having to watch this drama as a fan every time India magically remembers their "principles".
 
Actually it is to the contrary. Their stance has been very consistent. Has not changed for over a decade.

I agree that India's stance is hypocritical. But sad or worse part is that the other side goes along with it. Has gone along for a dozen or so years. Sure there have been some "bold" statements. But no action. And the that is the key. Action. The other side need to act to bring about change. But greed and selfishness reigns supreme.
So yeah, I would much rather have no cricket with India at all then see this drama unfold the next time an ICC tournament is in Pakistan or the next time India feels like using cricket to send some kind of lame political message that only Indians care about like wearing military caps in an international cricket match or telling the ICC to ban Pakistan from the 2019 Cricket World Cup.
 
I think BCCI should cut down ties with most if not all Cricketing nations. It's about time that IPL takes over as a yearly tournament. That way BCCI can also ensure (with permission of ICC of course) that international cricket doesn't happen during IPL's complete window. Which will be roughly 11 months a year. In the remaining 1 month, ICC can easily organize a flagship tournament.
 
This is a serious matter.

Hindus are witnessing genocide in Bangladesh which cannot be ignored.
Are they Indian hindus? If not, then what's the difference between Indian hindus showing their support for Bangladeshi hindus and Pakistanis showing their support for Palestine? :inti
 
Instead of giving passive aggressive responses like the one you just gave why don't you respond to the very basic contradiction in India's stance? If you believe that a country is a sponsor of terrorism and you don't want to play with them, then that extends not just to all forms of cricket but also all types of sports.

India's stance is hypocritical, contradictory and self-serving. When it doesn't hurt them, they don't play Pakistan. When World Cup points are on the line, principles go right out the window. Zero consistency, all hypocrisy.


I ask this once again ...what exactly are these principles that Pakistanis have created themselves and projected onto the Indian stance just to prove their nonexistent point?

India/BCCI's motive has always been to stop Pakistan from profiting off the vast Indian market. And they'll do whatever it is in their control to make this happen and that is by boycotting the bilaterals which is under the control of individual boards unlike ICC events. Can't believe I have to spell this simple logic out to tens of posters here..
 
Oh my bad I guess what I meant to say was India's stance is consistently hypocritical.

I don't see how the other side is relevant here considering its India's stance to not play cricket with Pakistan, not Pakistan's stance. And even if Pakistan had a choice, they are not in any kind of position of power to have their way. So no, that is not the "sad or worse" part of it. The sad and worst part of it is having to watch this drama as a fan every time India magically remembers their "principles".
It is getting tiring to see these shenanigans. I agree. But unfortunately, we will continue to see it. Because Pak. continues to be a participant in this. And as long as Ind. continue to get their way, with no resistance, they will not change. I mean why would they. When you keep getting what you want why would you stop doing what you are doing.

I cannot help but think that ICC is an equal culprit in this whole situation. Again, no resistance given which enables Ind. to continue what they do.

Nothing will change in this situation without a push back. By the looks of it, there will be none. Because the sides that need to do the push back are happy counting the $$$ from the very people that they need to push back.

So, let the drama continue!
 
BCCI is simply a "sporting" arm of the GOI.

If GOI feels they need to pressure BD, you will see BCCI take the same line as they do vs Pakistan.
 
I ask this once again ...what exactly are these principles that Pakistanis have created themselves and projected onto the Indian stance just to prove their nonexistent point?

India/BCCI's motive has always been to stop Pakistan from profiting off the vast Indian market. And they'll do whatever it is in their control to make this happen and that is by boycotting the bilaterals which is under the control of individual boards unlike ICC events. Can't believe I have to spell this simple logic out to tens of posters here..
Then why doesn't the BCCI say this? Why doesn't the BCCI say that we want to hurt Pakistan Cricket economically so they make as less money as possible? Why do they say that we don't play cricket with Pakistan bEcAuSe iT iS a sPoNsOr oF tErRorisM. Like just admit what you are doing instead of doing these lame a$$ stunts and trying to paint yourself as some kind of victim.

As for yourself, I don't know if you're actually this ignorant or if you have convinced yourself that what you're saying makes any sense whatsoever and isn't completely contradictory. When your board officially says that we are not playing cricket with Pakistan because they are a a sponsor of terrorism, that means they are taking a principled stance. It may be a completely B.S political stunt but it is a stance. So I don't know how I can explain this to your in a simpler way. If you lack basic comprehension skills, then I sincerely hope you somehow learn them.
 
It is getting tiring to see these shenanigans. I agree. But unfortunately, we will continue to see it. Because Pak. continues to be a participant in this. And as long as Ind. continue to get their way, with no resistance, they will not change. I mean why would they. When you keep getting what you want why would you stop doing what you are doing.

I cannot help but think that ICC is an equal culprit in this whole situation. Again, no resistance given which enables Ind. to continue what they do.

Nothing will change in this situation without a push back. By the looks of it, there will be none. Because the sides that need to do the push back are happy counting the $$$ from the very people that they need to push back.

So, let the drama continue!
What would you have Pakistan do? Cease to exist? Disband their cricket team? I agree with everything you said but I fail to understand how Pakistan is to be blamed in this? Pakistan is not in a position of power to do anything of consequence. Pakistan's say in this does not matter.
 
If we can take a hard stand on Pakistan then we can surely take a hard stand on Bangladeshiz with whom we don’t share a brotherly bonding like we do with Pakistanis.

I call upon BCCI to immediately follow the following :-

1. Complete ban on bilateral cricket with Bangladesh
2. Ban Bangladeshi cricketers from participating in IPL except of the Hindu community
Wasn't India accused by Canada of killing people on its soil
 
You can expect them to do so because they really can’t accept that someone could surpass them.

Biggest sore losers out there and fair weather fans; I feel for their sportsman to, who receive such fickle sapport, only full sapport when they win.
 
If India were to cut ties with the Olympics, it wouldn't affect the rankings of Pakistan on the medal tally, but countries like Fiji, Jordan, and Mongolia would move up one place. :inti

Hmmm then they need to cut ties with everybody ahead of them in the medal table :yk3
 
What would you have Pakistan do? Cease to exist? Disband their cricket team? I agree with everything you said but I fail to understand how Pakistan is to be blamed in this? Pakistan is not in a position of power to do anything of consequence. Pakistan's say in this does not matter.
There you go. Money is power. In their quest to get $$$, the people in power at the PCB are willing to overlook what the BCCI dictates. They seem willing to adjust. Not shake the apple cart. The $$$ are flowing in. So why bother. Let the PCT fans keep shouting.

If a change needs to be brought about, someone has to start. It never will be the people having their way. It has to come from the side that wants change. Right now, no one wants change.
 
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