Should we issue NOCs to our players for the next season of the Bangladesh Premier League?

[ahmedwaqas92]

Going by the news and discussions on a few threads at Pakpassion these last couple of days, it seems that our cricketing brand is now considered a inferior product to the Bangladesh Cricket Board and it's loyal set of fans.

This led me to contemplate as to whether it would be in our best interest to actually not issue any NOC(s) to any of our currently contracted players once the next BPL season is being held.

India protects it's assets and it increases the overall demand for their players which makes the IPL a success while now with the coming of PSL and our own successful league in the U.A.E. / Pakistan, we need to preserve our assets the same way and only expose them in top cricketing leagues such as BBL/PSL/IPL and or maybe CPL.


Discuss !

 

[Rayyman]

BPL isn't deserving of an official contract like NOC. 99% of the world doesn't even know what BPL is. Trash league with rubbish overseas players, garbage commentators, bakwaas production quality, biased fans, etc. I can go on and on; But the BPL isn't worth my time.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

BPL isn't deserving of an official contract like NOC. 99% of the world doesn't even know what BPL is. Trash league with rubbish overseas players, garbage commentators, bakwaas production quality, biased fans, etc. I can go on and on; But the BPL isn't worth my time.

Easy ho Ja Boy Although I understand where you're coming from and trust me it boils my blood too however, let's stay on topic here.

I believe that since we now have an inferior cricketing brand than Bangladesh it is best to stop issuing NOC(s) to Pakistani players that partake in BPL. Our cricketer quality is already as bad as it is and removing these players from the successful BPL shouldn't necessarily make a difference to them right ??

They can always get overseas players from Australia / England / New Zealand

 

[ali2220]

I don't see any harm in doing it, if it was upto me, i would have made sure that Kami,Moha,Tanno,misbah,shezy and other ttfs and oldies plays every edition of bpl

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

I don't see any harm in doing it, if it was upto me, i would have made sure that Kami,Moha,Tanno,misbah,shezy and other ttfs and oldies plays every edition of bpl

As much as I hate the TTFing of everyone mentioned in your post I wouldn't necessarily give them NOC(s) for this league. We need protect our brand in some way or the other and letting them play everywhere is not going to help. Also this type of one sided love has actually led us to where we are at the moment.

This munchkin of a cricketing board has developed arrogance to the point where it has forgotten the privileges PCB has given them over the years and either way they consider our product inferior to them so I see no point in providing them with our cricketing brand.

 

[A.A.Z]

Only second string players and out of favour seniors, who are close to retirement, will go to the BPL. Our top players won't play with financial security now provided by the PSL. We should issue NOC's so that lesser players can make a living. But, the main squad should be not be overexerted in a low tier T20 league.

I fear for Bangladesh, God forbid, there is another attack they may suffer a cricketing exodus similar to Pakistan. The Australian under 19 team pulled out of the world cup last year, the England Captain and Alex Hales pulled out later in the year. The England team only went to Bangladesh after careful deliberation. In this uncertain world where terrorist attacks have tragically become a regular occurrence the world over, any lunatic can cause a massive tragedy leading to mass hysteria globally.

Bangladesh should scourge the threat of terrorism and take affirmative action. By touring Pakistan, with head of state level security provided, it can show the world how both our countries are safe to tour, and if France can hold Euro 2016 after the awful attacks that took place there why can't our countries? As muslim countries we should unite to make sure international cricket stays alive on our land and not be halted by the menace of terrorism. Bangladesh is seen unsafe by some quarters abroad similar to way Pakistan is, they should take a step to help themselves by helping us convince more teams to come. If player safety can be guaranteed the way it was for the PSL final, why can't they take this productive step and tour for 2 T20s? Only if petty politics wasn't involved.

 

[Arsalan Pro]

No we shouldn't.

 

[MMHS]

Off course PCB should.

It's almost about ambush marketing - you don't cannibalize your revenue stream by send your marketable assets to competitors. Provided that, PCB is compensating players enough, because the mid tier players don't earn much from PAK Domestic cricket.

It's all about, kiske paas daam kitna - of course PCB should block their players outside PSL, if they back themselves capable enough to manage the aftermath so that it doesn't end up like the ICL, when Lahore Badsha became stronger than PAK National team. This'll keep players fresh, & this'll keep PSL more lucrative to cricket fans around the world, who pays to watch PAK players playing.

 

[saeed5646]

yup agree our players needs to focus on quaid azam trophy

 

[ali2220]

Is fixing still an issue in bpl? i think some of our players like Big Nas started fixing matches while playing matches in Bangla league.

 

[Major]

yeh do that and hopefully some player who is educated sues our board.

Not issuing NOC for a league is just totally wrong.

 

[MMHS]

yeh do that and hopefully some player who is educated sues our board.

Not issuing NOC for a league is just totally wrong.

Actually, PCB can't block players, unless they are under some sort of central contract. BCCI can block players, because they have central contracts even at FC level, therefore they have put a clause in their contract; at least for those players that has any demand - off course, BCCI won't stop a Dadar Union player, if he can get a contract at BBL. BCB also has a central contract with around 100 players, who would need an NOC. PCB, actually can block the national players with NOC - don't think, players can do anything, because there is no players' union in PAK. Worst that players can do is ICL, if their offer is thick enough.

 

[Pete Rose]

Should we shoot off one foot or both

 

[MenInG]

Don't stop people from earning legal money. Then we wonder why they get corrupted!

 

[Executioner]

So PCB is trying to shoot us but not thinking about collateral damage. It's just not BPL. Pakistan players play in DPL as well.

Atleast let your players earn some money. Pakistan players are well respected, PCB on the other hand is a circus. Let the players play and earn they deserve it.

It would be hypocrisy if players are not allowed to earn money but banned for fixing

 

[The cricket enthusiast]

Don't stop people from earning legal money. Then we wonder why they get corrupted!

so you mean to say your players are soo fragile and disloyal to their country that they will fall for anything?

 

[Nil Dhumrojal]

BPL isn't deserving of an official contract like NOC. 99% of the world doesn't even know what BPL is. Trash league with rubbish overseas players, garbage commentators, bakwaas production quality, biased fans, etc. I can go on and on; But the BPL isn't worth my time.

if you want you should do and frankly it won't harm bpl at all. only not giving noc to your players could have some consequences of your players to get motivated to more fixing saga

 

[DRsohail]

Off course PCB should.

It's almost about ambush marketing - you don't cannibalize your revenue stream by send your marketable assets to competitors. Provided that, PCB is compensating players enough, because the mid tier players don't earn much from PAK Domestic cricket.

It's all about, kiske paas daam kitna - of course PCB should block their players outside PSL, if they back themselves capable enough to manage the aftermath so that it doesn't end up like the ICL, when Lahore Badsha became stronger than PAK National team. This'll keep players fresh, & this'll keep PSL more lucrative to cricket fans around the world, who pays to watch PAK players playing.

i think it will be in best interest of the palyers to go for these leagues like BPL which has good coaching staff..exposure to different envirnment ..players..conditions will definitely improve our players as we saw shahzad and jamshid was back in pak team after strong bpl and it helped pakistan....shoaib malik is playing these leauges all over the world and we see clear difference in his approach towards fitness and playing conditions....and more importantly BPL is taking some of our domestic guys like ruman raees and some spinners which is good so its all win win situation for pcb and players.

 

[DRsohail]

if you want you should do and frankly it won't harm bpl at all. only not giving noc to your players could have some consequences of your players to get motivated to more fixing saga

avoid neagitive comments if u have the same problem......and yess ir will definitely affect BPL as well..

 

[JibranAnsari]

IPL is a success because of big money and they are able to buy players with top dollars.

Why only BPL ? Why not keep our players to PSL only and see how they do? Why go to cpl , BBL or english premier league? I cant really comprehend the logic behind your thread , is it only because bangladesh has refused to tour pakistan?

 

[MenInG]

so you mean to say your players are soo fragile and disloyal to their country that they will fall for anything?

I am not sure how you came to that conclusion? Pak players are humans and they are subject to all frailties of human nature that we all can be given how desperate we are to feed our families.

Do not for one moment ASSUME that that other countries don't have such problems.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The same was tried with IPL.To arm twist India, didnt end very well.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

IPL is a success because of big money and they are able to buy players with top dollars.

Why only BPL ? Why not keep our players to PSL only and see how they do? Why go to cpl , BBL or english premier league? I cant really comprehend the logic behind your thread , is it only because bangladesh has refused to tour pakistan?

The logic is that we need to start somewhere to secure our cricketing brand while ensuring that it doesn't go into overkill and loose its relevance in the long run. For this reason BPL is the most obvious choice for such restrictions.

Furthermore, you can't just simply tell the players to stop playing league cricket altogether as this might induce a backlash for the PCB hence letting them phase out one league at a time should be the way to go.

If we are afraid of the players declining such then we can always give them an alternative in BBL+CPL and PSL. (Granted they get picked by these leagues)

Our top drawn players go through an 8 month bilateral season, QeA (Off season), PSL (Off season) and then these leagues. The former three we cannot control and minimize since they are of the highest priority however what we can control is our players running away to league cricket and burning out in these scenarios.

Also letting our players go to these type of leagues undermines (in a financial sense) our PSL coverage; especially if the league is not on Par or below a tier to what we see in PSL. Seeing all these factors I am afraid that issuing NOCs to players for BPL could be counter productive in the long run.

I firmly believe that we have to stop taking this holier than thou type of attitude and for once think about the benefit of PAKISTAN.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

The same was tried with IPL.To arm twist India, didnt end very well.

During those days PCB was run by proper clowns which failed to realize that we did not have our own League to begin with.

Plus as much as I hate to admit it, IPL is considered the benchmark when it comes to League cricket therefore it would be absolutely stupid to consider this type of a move.

 

[Executioner]

The logic is that we need to start somewhere to secure our cricketing brand while ensuring that it doesn't go into overkill and loose its relevance in the long run. For this reason BPL is the most obvious choice for such restrictions.

Furthermore, you can't just simply tell the players to stop playing league cricket altogether as this might induce a backlash for the PCB hence letting them phase out one league at a time should be the way to go.

If we are afraid of the players declining such then we can always give them an alternative in BBL+CPL and PSL. (Granted they get picked by these leagues)

Our top drawn players go through an 8 month bilateral season, QeA (Off season), PSL (Off season) and then these leagues. The former three we cannot control and minimize since they are of the highest priority however what we can control is our players running away to league cricket and burning out in these scenarios.

Also letting our players go to these type of leagues undermines (in a financial sense) our PSL coverage; especially if the league is not on Par or below a tier to what we see in PSL. Seeing all these factors I am afraid that issuing NOCs to players for BPL could be counter productive in the long run.

I firmly believe that we have to stop taking this holier than thou type of attitude and for once think about the benefit of PAKISTAN.

You want to see Pakistan's benefit? Develop good relationships.

If there is any board in the world that can be of most use to PCB (appart from BCCI) and that is BCB.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

You want to see Pakistan's benefit? Develop good relationships.

If there is any board in the world that can be of most use to PCB (appart from BCCI) and that is BCB.

Good relations are built on equilateral terms and not by sucking up to the one in power.

 

[Pakpak]

The same was tried with IPL.To arm twist India, didnt end very well.

Again, a thread that has nothing to do with India or Indians and up pops an Indian giving his two cents and trying to derail yet another good thread into the usual Pak-Indian nonsense.

 

[Pakpak]

No, we shouldn't.

 

[Executioner]

Good relations are built on equilateral terms and not by sucking up to the one in power.

And PCB is doing what trying to nag bangladesh cricket board and threaten BCB. Oh they also ask BCB for compensation. Why will BCB compensate for PCB not being able to host in Pakistan. Why not host us in the UAE then.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

And PCB is doing what trying to nag bangladesh cricket board and threaten BCB. Oh they also ask BCB for compensation. Why will BCB compensate for PCB not being able to host in Pakistan. Why not host us in the UAE then.

I am sorry not able to host ?? We are prepared to give presidential level security to you guys, with Army, Police, tanks, choppers etc etc do you even realize that how much it costs the PCB and the state to arrange all this ??

We are not going into a net profit on this tour whether we host you Guys in Pakistan or UAE. However, instead of sending security officials to Pak to assess the situation your Board and govt is shooting off the hip......

I just hope that in case you folks don't hold your end of the bargain PCB should remember this facet in the long run.

 

[Dios]

^Wasn't Sri Lanka given presidential security as well?

 

[Pakpak]

^Wasn't Sri Lanka given presidential security as well?

No they were not. They were promised security similar to it. But that's besides the point now. PSL final showed where our security level is at now, rightfully so.

 

[MMHS]

i think it will be in best interest of the palyers to go for these leagues like BPL which has good coaching staff..exposure to different envirnment ..players..conditions will definitely improve our players as we saw shahzad and jamshid was back in pak team after strong bpl and it helped pakistan....shoaib malik is playing these leauges all over the world and we see clear difference in his approach towards fitness and playing conditions....and more importantly BPL is taking some of our domestic guys like ruman raees and some spinners which is good so its all win win situation for pcb and players.

As I said, few top players can be blocked so that their workload is managed & also their market value is preserved. But, provided that, players are compensated enough to keep them honest & committed. However, past history from both front (honesty & commitment) suggests that this might end up like PCB being a gunslinger who shoots with both hands to own leg - one to left knee & the other to right ankle ......

I thought this idea a bit too rich for a board that allowed it's national players to skip premium domestic FC tournament for warming bench at a franchise T20 tournament, just before a busy winter season.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

^Wasn't Sri Lanka given presidential security as well?

If you guys are so concerned on what exactly is presidential type of security then why not send some security officials to us so that we can demonstrate how a nation that contributes the highest number of Armed officials in UN peace keeping missions operates during a proper presidential level event.

Bangladesh will never send such individuals and we all know why !

 

[Executioner]

I am sorry not able to host ?? We are prepared to give presidential level security to you guys, with Army, Police, tanks, choppers etc etc do you even realize that how much it costs the PCB and the state to arrange all this ??

We are not going into a net profit on this tour whether we host you Guys in Pakistan or UAE. However, instead of sending security officials to Pak to assess the situation your Board and govt is shooting off the hip......

I just hope that in case you folks don't hold your end of the bargain PCB should remember this facet in the long run.

So basically

Bangladesh is not profitable in the UAE but West Indies or Lanka is. Do you know that bangladesh has 5 times the interest from audience compared to West Indies courtesy of large population. And with interest comes sponsors.

Do you know 30 percent of the sponsors of the BD vs Lanka series is from Bangladesh alone. These are companies that don't even have a branch in lanka.

 

[cricketjoshila]

If you guys are so concerned on what exactly is presidential type of security then why not send some security officials to us so that we can demonstrate how a nation that contributes the highest number of Armed officials in UN peace keeping missions operates during a proper presidential level event.

Bangladesh will never send such individuals and we all know why !

Why dont you tell this to all countries?

 

[Major]

Don't stop people from earning legal money. Then we wonder why they get corrupted!

well to be honest, nasir jamshed was said to be involved in corruption even in BPL aswell. Too bad our board hushed everything under the carpet

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

So basically

Bangladesh is not profitable in the UAE but West Indies or Lanka is. Do you know that bangladesh has 5 times the interest from audience compared to West Indies courtesy of large population. And with interest comes sponsors.

Do you know 30 percent of the sponsors of the BD vs Lanka series is from Bangladesh alone. These are companies that don't even have a branch in lanka.

SL were the victims of that entire debacle so they are the only ones that should be allowed to come to Pakiatan on their own terms.

WI are a non subcontinent team which means they are not politically effected or affiliated with such nuances. India will yield is a profit no matter where we play them so it doesn't really matter if try come to Pakistan or not.

That leaves Afghanistan and Bangladesh. We cannot simply play bilateral series with these countries in UAE - There's no point in it. That's why even with a loss PCB and the state are willing to give Presidential level detail to your sportsmen

 

[Executioner]

SL were the victims of that entire debacle so they are the only ones that should be allowed to come to Pakiatan on their own terms.

WI are a non subcontinent team which means they are not politically effected or affiliated with such nuances. India will yield is a profit no matter where we play them so it doesn't really matter if try come to Pakistan or not.

That leaves Afghanistan and Bangladesh. We cannot simply play bilateral series with these countries in UAE - There's no point in it. That's why even with a loss PCB and the state are willing to give Presidential level detail to your sportsmen

What do you mean by only Lanka should be allowed to come to Pakistan on their own terms.

Every team in the world has the right to decide on touring Pakistan on their own terms.

And why did you bring up the point about politics of West Indies when I mentioned about profit.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Pull the players out of BPL, let it crash and burn and lets play politics too.

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

Yes, Pakistani players should make money playing for Ipl, the biggest league in the world. Oh wait they can't get in

 

[Rayyman]

This is the same tournament where Junaid Khan was the leading wicket-taker. LOL.

 

[Clubpenno]

Sohail Tanvir was the top wicket taker in IPL. The cockiness of the two match in 100 winning nation beats no bounds.

 

[Clubpenno]

Tamim Iqbal lead the BPL scoring charts. When facing decent bowlers you know how he fared.

 

[wasimjunior]

The same was tried with IPL.To arm twist India, didnt end very well.

Slight difference between the worlds biggest cricketing superpower and a minnow.

Will let you figure whose who

 

[Hamza_]

Yeah. CPL and Big Bash should be allowed for certain players but not BPL.

 

[Citizen4]

After the last QeA trophy, Inzi said in an interview that from the next season, all the talented and up and coming players will not be able to take part in any league when QeA trophy is going on, and they will participate in it, Australia have similar rules for Shefield Shield.

So I think the older guys (34+) can do whatever they want but the other guys like Imad, Shehzad etc. will all have to play full QeA trophy, this will be better for us.

 

[nighthawk23]

Has the PSL even published the financial report for PSL 2 yet?

 

[Varun]

It's hilarious and sad that Bangladesh's loyalty is being tied to whether they visit Pakistan or not, whereas everybody else are fine with just stopping by the UAE.

The West Indies too only came to the UAE. Should Pakistani players not get NOCs for the CPL?