Should you wear shalwar kameez outside Pakistan if that puts your life in danger?

[Mamoon]

This is a different topic altogether but the idea sounds quite ridiculous.

Shalwar Qameez is designed to suit the weather conditions of countries like Pakistan.
It’s usually very hot and very humid.

You need clothes that are relaxed, and with a good airflow.

How would one feel in Pakistan seeing his/her 70 years old limping grandma attending a party in a skin tight jeans?

And I wonder how a 70 year old limping grandma goes to the toilet while wearing shalwar kameez.

It is the most useless and impractical dress especially when it comes to answering nature’s calls.

 

[OMB]

What is the significance of white here?

My view...

Islam doesnt have a dress style or fashion. You should try to wear clothes which are part of the culture you are living in. However in light of Islamaphobia, it's important not to let the far right white westnern terrorists to intimidate you, make you change your way of life. So wear them if you feel like wearing them, its supposed to be a free society.

On this subject I respect the Sikhs, they continue to wear their turban when its alien to most cultures in the west.

Yes many of the younger Sikhs dont wear turban and some of them have even shorn their locks. Maybe it is fit in the western society. Surprisingly, I know many who don't do it in Middle East.
Maybe because the fear of getting targetted by a some ignorant white supremacist is less here.

Though I know a sikh colleague of mine (in Iraq) who always wore a baseball cap over his head. Didn't cut the hair but hid it nevertheless because odd people would stop him on the streets and ask him what is that hairstyle?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

And I wonder how a 70 year old limping grandma goes to the toilet while wearing shalwar kameez.

It is the most useless and impractical dress especially when it comes to answering nature’s calls.

I think a sari would be even more difficult to negotiate for a grandma going to the toilet, so I will challenge your assertion that the shalwar kameez is the most useless and impractical dress with an Indian variant. What do you think about that?

 

[moghul]

Shalwar Kameez was actually a sleeping dress. When in ZAB's era everything was nationalized and people were promised roti, kapra and makan without any need for work , laziness became a fashion and trend . People started to showing up at work and at their day to day activities without changing their sleeping dress, hence shalwar kameez became a common dress.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Shalwar Kameez was actually a sleeping dress. When in ZAB's era everything was nationalized and people were promised roti, kapra and makan without any need for work , laziness became a fashion and trend . People started to showing up at work and at their day to day activities without changing their sleeping dress, hence shalwar kameez became a common dress.

That sounds like nonsense to be honest. Can we put this down to your own personal theory rather than something based on serious study?

 

[Colorblind Genius]

And I wonder how a 70 year old limping grandma goes to the toilet while wearing shalwar kameez.

It is the most useless and impractical dress especially when it comes to answering nature’s calls.

Didn’t you notice that she is been answering the nature’s call in shalwar Qameez for 65 odd years without an issue? And you still wonder?

Common sense?

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Shalwar Kameez was actually a sleeping dress. When in ZAB's era everything was nationalized and people were promised roti, kapra and makan without any need for work , laziness became a fashion and trend . People started to showing up at work and at their day to day activities without changing their sleeping dress, hence shalwar kameez became a common dress.

So what was the work and daytime dress, then?
Lungi and Dhoti with a banyan?

 

[Kroll]

In the UK, there seems to be a growing number of murids of the various sufi orders. So never mind shalwar kameez, I've seen loads of people in public running about wearing jubbah and imamah turbans.

Of course, a lot of people choose to wear jubbah/shalwar kameez for jummah prayers/during eid etc.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

What is the irony of it? Non residential Pakistanis would have moved abroad because they were looking for something outside of Pakistan, then if they see something better where they are living, they will say Pakistan needs to improve to be like this. Why do you call this identity crisis? What is the crisis here?

Like the extreme mullahs call people Kaafir for not following Islam the way they want, the liberal extremist call people who dont follow culture as how they see it as suffering from an identity crisis.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Shalwar Kameez was actually a sleeping dress. When in ZAB's era everything was nationalized and people were promised roti, kapra and makan without any need for work , laziness became a fashion and trend . People started to showing up at work and at their day to day activities without changing their sleeping dress, hence shalwar kameez became a common dress.

No it wasn't.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

This is a different topic altogether but the idea sounds quite ridiculous.

Shalwar Qameez is designed to suit the weather conditions of countries like Pakistan.
It’s usually very hot and very humid.

You need clothes that are relaxed, and with a good airflow.

How would one feel in Pakistan seeing his/her 70 years old limping grandma attending a party in a skin tight jeans?

Yet people in cold areas of Pakistan also wear it. And so people in Afghainistan. And per most sources it originated in Centra Asia, another cold climate area, so the weather conditions have nothing to do with it

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

kurta existed in India before Muslim came. The style was influenced by culture that Muslims brought along with them.

Is it possible that it was from the Kushans? Most sources i have read that it was brought by Muslims, but before Central Asia was Muslim their were other dynasties that ruled the subcontinent that originated there. So maybe they brought it an earlier version of it.

"This exposure to a different mode of dress for four centuries in the ancient period and for six centuries under Islamic rulers later, created the varieties of cut and sewn garments which now form and intrinsic part of what today is called Indian costume. This applies particularly to the Deccan and the Northern parts of India. The South, however, retained the earlier draped and unstitched garments of ancient India, e.g., the antariya/dhoti, the uttariya/dupatta and cummerband/waist cloth. These cut and sewn garments of the invaders underwent dramatic changes evolving from simple Central Asian nomadic costume (both Kushan and the Turk Mongol peoples were horse-riding nomads) to the highly civilized, urban and decorative costume of the Mughal court and the day-to-day comfortable and relaxed dress of the common man of today called the kurta-pyjama (page 468)"

Atleast in assam, we had ahom kingdom where their traditional dress was similar to kurta (which was influenced by thai culture as they came from there).

What was the dress name? I googled traditional thai dress for men, and it does not look similar to me.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

And I wonder how a 70 year old limping grandma goes to the toilet while wearing shalwar kameez.

It is the most useless and impractical dress especially when it comes to answering nature’s calls.

At least for men their are shalwar's with zips and buttons now. So we dont have to depend on Azarband.

 

[rockyboy2018]

That Arab dress looks to me so odd if in a fight I do not think I can fight my way back with my legs and all.
What about burqa? only 2 eyes are visible.

 

[Giannis]

That Arab dress looks to me so odd if in a fight I do not think I can fight my way back with my legs and all.
What about burqa? only 2 eyes are visible.

burqa is not a dress, it's more like a coat. Arab women wear actual clothes underneath a burqa.

 

[street cricketer]

burqa is not a dress, it's more like a coat. Arab women wear actual clothes underneath a burqa.

Burqa is universal. Not restricted to arab women only.

 

[Giannis]

Burqa is universal. Not restricted to arab women only.

yeah it's not a dress, it's more like a coat you'd wear over a dress.

 

[street cricketer]

yeah it's not a dress, it's more like a coat you'd wear over a dress.

I know lol. I'm not silly enough to believe the burqa is a dress in itself. It's simply an attire that many (not all) muslim women don when in the presence of non mahram persons.

 

[Mamoon]

Didn’t you notice that she is been answering the nature’s call in shalwar Qameez for 65 odd years without an issue? And you still wonder?

Common sense?

Not without difficulty. Society has imposed a rubbish dress on her and she had to cope with it. What common sense?

If you are suggesting that shalwar kameez is not an inconvenient and impractical dress from the perspective of relieving yourself, you are not using common sense.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Not without difficulty. Society has imposed a rubbish dress on her and she had to cope with it. What common sense?

If you are suggesting that shalwar kameez is not an inconvenient and impractical dress from the perspective of relieving yourself, you are not using common sense.

So would you say society has imposed an even more rubbish dress on Indian women from the same perspective? That must be even more impractical for such functions.

 

[guna]

Its never a good idea to advertise yourself and standout in the crowd. Your political and religious affiliations should never be made public. It takes one looney to attack based on your clothes or religion.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Not without difficulty. Society has imposed a rubbish dress on her and she had to cope with it. What common sense?

If you are suggesting that shalwar kameez is not an inconvenient and impractical dress from the perspective of relieving yourself, you are not using common sense.

Only a mentally challenged would think like this.

Shalwar Qameez has been the preferred dress for 100's and millions of people in South East Asia for centuries.
If there was seriously that much of a difficulty, it would've drastically evolved by now.

But yeah, if you don't have the very basic motor skills and you aren't mentally stable, then Shalwar Qameez or any other dress will pose difficulty in answering the nature's call.

 

[TSA321]

https://www.dawn.com/news/1632199/p...ed-insulted-over-beard-and-clothing-in-canada

Just weeks after a Pakistani family was murdered in Ontario, a Muslim migrant was attacked in a Canadian province with a knife by two unidentified assailants, local media reported.

In the city of Saskatoon in the Saskatchewan province, Pakistani national Muhammad Kashif was harassed and stabbed on Friday by two attackers.

Starphoenix daily reported that Kashif, 32, was assaulted while he was returning to his home in the evening, wearing traditional Muslim clothing.

He said the attackers stabbed him in the back as they shouted: “Why are you wearing this dress?” “Why are you here?” and “Go back to your country. I hate Muslims.”

They also shouted “And why do you have this beard?” before cutting off a part of Kashif’s beard. He was later stabbed in the arm and had to get 14 stitches.

“A third attacker might have been waiting for the first two in a nearby green car,” Kashif said. An investigation was launched into the assault.

Charlie Clark, the mayor of Saskatoon, said in a statement that he was “horrified and saddened” by the attack.

“Groups that are spreading white supremacy, Islamophobia and any other form of discrimination need to be investigated and held accountable,” he said.

“We must also confront individual acts of racism and discrimination,” he added.

Kashif, who emigrated from Pakistan to Canada 20 years ago, said he was concerned about the safety of his wife and three children, aged between 3 and 8.

The attack follows the June 6 incident in which four members of a Pakistani family in Ontario were run down by a truck in what police called “a planned, premeditated act, motivated by hate.”