"Shows you how bad an umpire Aleem Dar was and how many decisions he got wrong" : Shane Warne

[MenInG]

"Shows you how bad an umpire Aleem Dar was and how many decisions he got wrong" : Shane Warne

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just to clarify my Aleem Dar comments, he always gets the crucial decisions wrong & always has, that's why he's not a great umpire !</p>— Shane Warne (@ShaneWarne) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShaneWarne/status/355747286929772545?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 12, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You have to admire <a href="https://twitter.com/StuartBroad8?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@StuartBroad8</a> for not walking here. Showed serious Kahunas hahaha. Also shows you how bad an umpire Aleem Dar was and how many decisions he got wrong !!!!!!! <a href="https://t.co/s2ZE6XWNtU">https://t.co/s2ZE6XWNtU</a></p>— Shane Warne (@ShaneWarne) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShaneWarne/status/1472389895008124929?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Gilly]

Warne is going to get some serious flak for this, he tries so hard to be in the limelight.

 

[Mirpur express]

& now he’s the best umpire in the world by a mile

 

[Concerned]

That was a poor decision by Aleem.

 

[Last Monetarist]

This is an age old grudge that dates back to 2004/05 when Dar reprimanded Warne for bowling a negative line against New Zealand:

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india/warne-accused-of-negative-bowling/story-4R2TXCZ2PPy13TzguSnylN.html

In true Warne fashion, as only he can, he's never going to ignore that slight or allow Dar to forget it either.

 

[James]

Warne looking for attention again.

Great bowler, not so great as a person.

 

[princeuk]

This is an age old grudge that dates back to 2004/05 when Dar reprimanded Warne for bowling a negative line against New Zealand:

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india/warne-accused-of-negative-bowling/story-4R2TXCZ2PPy13TzguSnylN.html

In true Warne fashion, as only he can, he's never going to ignore that slight or allow Dar to forget it either.

Yup, Warne likes to hold a grudge and this is a prime example of it, ALL umpires have made howlers, why doesnt he mention that. Umpire Daryl Hair def cost pakistan not just winning test matches but winning Test series.

 

[Mamoon]

There is no doubt that Aleem Dar is overrated. Sure he is a good umpire, but he has made way too many blunders for a so-called legendary umpire.

Simon Taufel was always much better than him.

So yes I agree with Warne.

 

[mastimasti]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just to clarify my Aleem Dar comments, he always gets the crucial decisions wrong & always has, that's why he's not a great umpire !</p>— Shane Warne (@ShaneWarne) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShaneWarne/status/355747286929772545?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 12, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You have to admire <a href="https://twitter.com/StuartBroad8?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@StuartBroad8</a> for not walking here. Showed serious Kahunas hahaha. Also shows you how bad an umpire Aleem Dar was and how many decisions he got wrong !!!!!!! &#55357;&#56873; <a href="https://t.co/s2ZE6XWNtU">https://t.co/s2ZE6XWNtU</a></p>— Shane Warne (@ShaneWarne) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShaneWarne/status/1472389895008124929?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I'm confused, the date on the first tweet is 2013, the clip is from years back but dated as 2021.

Either way, Dar is a great umpire and the best to do it for the last probably 10+ years.

Warne can go back to trying to date has-been movie stars

 

[AAli98]

Warnes movie coming out next month needs publicity next hel be saying Tendilkars ****.. that’s another 1.3 billion viewers!

 

[Major]

When it came to Australia matches which dar often got to officiate, he did get some decisions wrong.

Thus, warne is probably judging him based on that.

Its similar to how Kumar dharmesena would get decisions wrong when it came to pakistan matches and we judge him based on that. While in other matches he had better performance.

Aleem dar is a good umpire. Up there with the best, but he is slightly over rated by Pakistani fans and that is understandable as he is the only good pakistani umpire we produced.

Pakistani fans make fun of dharmesena for 2019 world cup final but many dont realize that aleem dar had made similarly bad decisions back in the 2007 world cup finals where he forced australia to bowl in the darkness.

Overall good umpire, but messed it up against Australia

 

[Major]

Warne looking for attention again.

Great bowler, not so great as a person.

Not really. It could be the whole australia side feels the same way.

Remember ponting has been quite vocal whenever dar made any decision. Back in 2010 there were scenes of ponting arugung with dar than in 2019 ponting made some comments on dar's umpiring...

 

[Mamoon]

When it came to Australia matches which dar often got to officiate, he did get some decisions wrong.

Thus, warne is probably judging him based on that.

Its similar to how Kumar dharmesena would get decisions wrong when it came to pakistan matches and we judge him based on that. While in other matches he had better performance.

Aleem dar is a good umpire. Up there with the best, but he is slightly over rated by Pakistani fans and that is understandable as he is the only good pakistani umpire we produced.

Pakistani fans make fun of dharmesena for 2019 world cup final but many dont realize that aleem dar had made similarly bad decisions back in the 2007 world cup finals where he forced australia to bowl in the darkness.

Overall good umpire, but messed it up against Australia

Dharmasena is an incompetent umpire in general though. Sure he is worse against Pakistan but you cannot classify him as a competent umpire in general. I am surprised that he has survived at the top level for so long.

Aleem Dar is a strange case because for all his overall consistency and capability, he has made errors that you wouldn’t expect from a 10 year old.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Shane Warne has a strange need to court attention. It's particularly strange because people will listen to him because he was one of the best bowlers ever and there's no need for cheap trolling.

 

[Major]

Dharmasena is an incompetent umpire in general though. Sure he is worse against Pakistan but you cannot classify him as a competent umpire in general. I am surprised that he has survived at the top level for so long.

Aleem Dar is a strange case because for all his overall consistency and capability, he has made errors that you wouldn’t expect from a 10 year old.

One thing that was annoying about aleem dar fans was that whenever you point out a bad decision by aleem dar, you will always get the argument that aleem dar is a human and every human makes a mistake.

However, not once has that argument been presented against other umpires. He is over glorified by us.

His errors mostly comes against australia and its always embarrassing when they start having a go at him.

 

[Gilly]

One thing that was annoying about aleem dar fans was that whenever you point out a bad decision by aleem dar, you will always get the argument that aleem dar is a human and every human makes a mistake.

However, not once has that argument been presented against other umpires. He is over glorified by us.

His errors mostly comes against australia and its always embarrassing when they start having a go at him.

No just Warne.

 

[Smbhayi]

There's another howler by him against us

https://youtu.be/REPHPrgfNwQ

 

[Maher96]

I’d love to have Wasim and Warne together. I’m sure that would be hilarious both seem like the type who thinks they know it better than all.

 

[shah9425]

Attention seeker as always he has been

 

[sweep_shot]

Harsh from Warne. I have seen worse umpires.

Aleem Dar was an excellent umpire for many years.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

He was good for a few years. But he was no Simon Taufel. Nobody was that good.

 

[happydavy]

Like for most controversial things, where people take extreme stands, reality lies somewhere in the middle. Aleem Dar was a good umpire but Pakistanis would like to believe he was the best, which he certainly wasn't. One thing though I agree about Aleem was that he isn't a biased umpire, strangely he got some easy decisions woefully wrong. Thanks to DRS, we are now able to objectively judge some decisions, in earlier days there were some famous umpires who were so so bad. I remember David Shepherd was just so atrociously bad when it came to lbw decisions, yet he wasn't called for that at all. Bucknor was another horror story.

 

[Zaz]

Great bowler but a very cheap person No need for this after so many years

 

[YousafTheBeast]

He was good for a few years. But he was no Simon Taufel. Nobody was that good.

Umar Akmal vs New Zealand, CT09’ SF.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

All umpires are incompetent. Period
Or maybe umpiring is just too difficult a job.

 

[James]

All umpires are incompetent. Period
Or maybe umpiring is just too difficult a job.

Taufel was pretty good, made very few mistakes.

 

[offstump]

Any umpire or referee in any major sport will make blunders. If you expect flawless umpiring from a human being you’re expecting too much. Aleem Dar is/was an excellent umpire, he’s made mistakes but he’s nowhere near incompetent.

 

[Energy]

Aleem Dar was the best umpire in the world for a few seasons, and is still one of the top umpires.

 

[Walawalkar]

Aleem Dar was the best umpire in the world for a few seasons, and is still one of the top umpires.

He was good in patches... definitely not the best

 

[Buffet]

All umpires are incompetent. Period
Or maybe umpiring is just too difficult a job.

I think the difficulty is the issue here otherwise, we should see lots of top-class umpires.

 

[wrongun]

This is an age old grudge that dates back to 2004/05 when Dar reprimanded Warne for bowling a negative line against New Zealand:

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india/warne-accused-of-negative-bowling/story-4R2TXCZ2PPy13TzguSnylN.html

In true Warne fashion, as only he can, he's never going to ignore that slight or allow Dar to forget it either.

It's classic Warne narcissism.

Exhibit a: 7 Years ago when there was whispers of a 42 yr old Warne making a Test comeback (based on a couple of decent BBL games), Mitchell Starc was asked what he thought about it. Starc backed his current team mate- Nathan Lyon and said Lyon is our spinner, Warne's test era is over for years now.

Warne never forgave him & calls for him to be dropped EVERY Australian summer before the first test. Look back at the commentary for ball 1 of this Ashes series, Starc delivers an epic 145k yorker that swings behind the legs to hit middle & leg... Warne the only commentator saying "But it didn't swing, he's missed a straight one." All because Starc spoke up for the guy he actually plays with and not some old retired guy.

Exhibit b: S Waugh dropped Warne in WI in 1999 in a Test tour. Warne clearly not over a shoulder injury took 2 for 268 in his last 3 tests that year... Oz are 2:1 down v WI in the series so Waugh picks McGill, who takes 12 wickets in 2 Tests at <30 and Oz draw the series. Clearly the right decision.

Warne never forgives him (even though Waugh picks him in the WC a few months later, once he has healed properly) and slags S Waugh off every opportunity. Picks M Waugh in all his "best" teams instead.

So Aleem Dar is just the latest in a very, very long line of people who *****ed Warnes ego and he is so full of himself and petty he can never let it go.

 

[wrongun]

All umpires are incompetent. Period
Or maybe umpiring is just too difficult a job.

Most players/captains don't do any better with DRS than the umpires. Most innings have several mistakes. Bowlers get the ball in the wrong spot pretty often. Mistakes happen.

 

[DRsohail]

There is no doubt that Aleem Dar is overrated. Sure he is a good umpire, but he has made way too many blunders for a so-called legendary umpire.

Simon Taufel was always much better than him.

So yes I agree with Warne.

Lol and another watne spotted, not the player I mean.

 

[DRsohail]

Warne*

 

[Colorblind Genius]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just to clarify my Aleem Dar comments, he always gets the crucial decisions wrong & always has, that's why he's not a great umpire !</p>— Shane Warne (@ShaneWarne) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShaneWarne/status/355747286929772545?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 12, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You have to admire <a href="https://twitter.com/StuartBroad8?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@StuartBroad8</a> for not walking here. Showed serious Kahunas hahaha. Also shows you how bad an umpire Aleem Dar was and how many decisions he got wrong !!!!!!! <a href="https://t.co/s2ZE6XWNtU">https://t.co/s2ZE6XWNtU</a></p>— Shane Warne (@ShaneWarne) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShaneWarne/status/1472389895008124929?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dar made an honest mistake thinking that the ball might’ve ricocheted with the keepers gloves. And more so, some fielders’ lack of interest and lack of confidence in the appeal, also indicates that this was a weird combination of a split second event and all the moving mechanics in the play, that made it look like an illusion. So it was not only Aleem but the opposition had doubts too.

The only thing it shows is, how badly Broad lacked sportsman spirit.
But yeah, he showed you his “Kahunas” to Warne, and that made Warne laugh, perhaps with a watery mouth too.

 

[JibranAnsari]

Not as bad as steve bucknor though.

 

[Snowflake]

You can justify or explain warbe's comment anyway you want...but you can't deny that there is a clear intent to go out of the way and criticize Dar.

Look, Warne just never took a liking to Pakistan and it's clear as daylight when he talks about our team. There's just something that rubs him the wrong way about the country and/or about the cricket team. He's not a fan...and he doesn't have to be.

I think most Pakistanis would realize this if they listen to him without any burying some part of their head in the sand. We, Pakistanis, want to avoid accepting anything that feels uncomfortable and that includes someone's not so positive perception about us.

Warne has never been on Pak's corner and it's fine.

Please don't bring up his fascination with Yasir Shah here

 

[Varun]

It's classic Warne narcissism.

Exhibit a: 7 Years ago when there was whispers of a 42 yr old Warne making a Test comeback (based on a couple of decent BBL games), Mitchell Starc was asked what he thought about it. Starc backed his current team mate- Nathan Lyon and said Lyon is our spinner, Warne's test era is over for years now.

Warne never forgave him & calls for him to be dropped EVERY Australian summer before the first test. Look back at the commentary for ball 1 of this Ashes series, Starc delivers an epic 145k yorker that swings behind the legs to hit middle & leg... Warne the only commentator saying "But it didn't swing, he's missed a straight one." All because Starc spoke up for the guy he actually plays with and not some old retired guy.

Exhibit b: S Waugh dropped Warne in WI in 1999 in a Test tour. Warne clearly not over a shoulder injury took 2 for 268 in his last 3 tests that year... Oz are 2:1 down v WI in the series so Waugh picks McGill, who takes 12 wickets in 2 Tests at <30 and Oz draw the series. Clearly the right decision.

Warne never forgives him (even though Waugh picks him in the WC a few months later, once he has healed properly) and slags S Waugh off every opportunity. Picks M Waugh in all his "best" teams instead.

So Aleem Dar is just the latest in a very, very long line of people who *****ed Warnes ego and he is so full of himself and petty he can never let it go.

Interesting post.

Warne is a KP-type FIGJAM.

 

[IMMY69]

Amazing how some posters make this thread about the quality of umpiring and ignore the fact that the tweets were in such poor taste.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

Taufel was pretty good, made very few mistakes.

He was very good. However, his time was before peak DRS and snicko. So who knows.

All in all, umpires have a very hard job. Aleem is up there with the best and at one point, was close to infallible.

 

[Gilly]

I just hope that Dar does not respond to Warne and knows that these comments come from a person who no one takes seriously.

 

[wrongun]

Interesting post.

Warne is a KP-type FIGJAM.

Yes. Probably even worse.

But I guess I get a lot more Warney coverage out here than I do KP coverage, so that's just my take. Weren't they besties for a while when they played county cricket?

 

[PakLFC]

I've always known Aleem to be a brilliant decision maker. Everyone can have a few bad days. Relax Warnie!

 

[Unbiased-Fan]

Not saying Aleem is bad umpire but this decision is horrible. And this is not the first time he has given such a stupid decision.
Similar incident happened in 2007 when India and South Africa played ODI series in Ireland.
AB devilliers's bat got big edge and was cleanly caught by Sachin at slips. Indians started obvious wicket celebration but they were extremely shocked to see neither devilliers walked nor Aleem raised his finger. They were literally begging to Aleem Dar but he was firm on his decision.
That was the poorest decision made by on field umpire i witness.