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South Africa v Pakistan | 2nd T20I | Johannesburg | 12 April 2021 | Pre-Match Discussion

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A superb batting display by Rizwan but fact is that we got lucky in some aspects - especially against an undercooked SA side.

So what changes are necessary for the next game?
 
I reckon no changes will occur tomorrow just want Babar to come one down with Fakhar opening even though Fakhar did a decent job at 3.

If Pakistan wins the next 2 games InshAllah then I want to see some experimentation in the final game ie bring in Arshad, Hasnain and give Sharjeel a game.
 
I would try Zahid instead of Qadir. I feel that frontline spinner role is still open. Other than that I would not make any changes. There aren't many options for number 6 tbh, will have to revist that for the England series . Let's try and play our best 11 till the World T20 to get the players knowing what their role is going into the tournament.

The frontline spinner,number 6, and the 3rd seamer (Hasan and Shaheen are lock) are the open slots i see right now. So I will understand rotation there.
 
I would try Zahid instead of Qadir. I feel that frontline spinner role is still open. Other than that I would not make any changes. There aren't many options for number 6 tbh, will have to revist that for the England series . Let's try and play our best 11 till the World T20 to get the players knowing what their role is going into the tournament.

The frontline spinner,number 6, and the 3rd seamer (Hasan and Shaheen are lock) are the open slots i see right now. So I will understand rotation there.

Zahid is in Pakistan, he’ll be available for the full Zimbabwe tour though.
 
Leg spinners get hit, it's part of the game but they get hit because the batsman takes risks and that's the reason Leggies also take wickets. With UQ you just wait for 4 bad balls an over, put 2 away and they others for singles and you got 12 without any risk.
 
So we are stuck with Qadir. Well he has a big chance to cement a place.

Yea bud, the test players leave for Zimbabwe on the 21st April and right now they’re all training in Pakistan.

I reckon Qadir will do better in Centurion, it’s not as if we can lose this series.
 
Why is the schedule so poor?

Most people wont be able to watch the game due to the work

Last time the ODI series decider was on during midweek

Just stupid
 
Pak should rotate their playing XIs.

Hopefully we'll get another thriller.

Give some rest to Shaheen.

Can't agree enough.

Shaheen has had no rest and he is a young fast bowler. Day in and day out he is bowling under pressure situations, not to mention bubbles and all. He deserves a long rest.

Tests coming up and what not. Pakistan has enough fast bowlers to cover for him in the next 2 T20s.

If he breaks down and is out of the game for long, Pakistan will pay dearly.
 
We'll see no changes which means we're stuck with the stupid Misbah-Waqar insight despite both of them having less knowledge about LOI's than most on this forum even.

Playing 4 bowlers with 2 bowling allrounders (if Nawaz is even that) is incredibly stupid but we're stuck with it until it fails.

It might even come off again against this SA D team and then we'll see bhangra until a real team shown us and smashes our unbalanced line up out of the park.
 
So we are stuck with Qadir. Well he has a big chance to cement a place.
Qadir can be replaced by Sharjeel or Hasnain.Hafeez and Faheem can share the bowling.Hasnain is capable of scoring10-15 runs.Faheem and Hasan can also bat.Qadir is a not a bad bowler.He did not read the conditions well.He has not played in SA before.
 
It's been a cracking series to watch so far. These South African pitches provide good value for strokeplay so if PAK bat first they'll need 185 minimum.

Echo the concerns about Shaheen's workload, but think he'll get his rest in Zimbabwe. Would consider resting him for at least one game in this series though instead of playing him four T20s on the trot.

Not sure what the solutions are for our #6 issue. Danish has struggled with the bounce of these pitches. Nawaz is little better than a #9 and should not bat higher than Hasan, who himself is best suited at #8. Perhaps Faheem stays there until Imad returns.
 
The playing XI for the first T20 was unbalanced, with too weak a batting lineup that will be exposed against stronger teams. We played so many bowlers and still were close to conceding 200+ until the last 4 overs. And we were barely able to chase the target we did get.
 
Rizwan
Asif Ali
Babar
Sharjeel
Fakhar
Haider
Hafeez
Faheem / Nawaz
Hasan
Shaheen
Rauf / Usman qadir

Babar comes to bat when Rizwan gets out. The power hitters follow each other on the other end. Everyone plays their natural game according to the circumstance and context of the match. If it's a spinning wicket then spinners (Nawaz, Qadir play). Would like to see khushdil be part of this rotation as well. Not fair to him to drop him so he can bully the domestics
 
Since team won i do not see management making changes they might shuffle the batting order a bit. Ideally i would like arshad iqbal to play a game but since we won first t20 match dont see misbah making changes . I hope if they use same line up batting order can look like this


Rizwan
Fakhar Zaman
Babar Azam
Hafeez
Haidar Ali
Faheem
Hasan Ali
Nawaz
Shaheen
Rauf
Qadir
 
Since team won i do not see management making changes they might shuffle the batting order a bit. Ideally i would like arshad iqbal to play a game but since we won first t20 match dont see misbah making changes . I hope if they use same line up batting order can look like this


Rizwan
Fakhar Zaman
Babar Azam
Hafeez
Haidar Ali
Faheem
Hasan Ali
Nawaz
Shaheen
Rauf
Qadir

Absolutely agree. Fakhar's natural position is an opener and best he slots in there for the rest of the series
 
They say something and do something else. All the talk about modern day batting and Babar and rizwan play the power play overs with maximum 2 fielded outside the circle that 36 balls where at least 12 should hit the boundary. Open with Fakhar and Sharjeel send Babar at 3 with Hafeez at if you lose the 2nd wicket in the power play. If not Rizwan at 4. Worse come worse Rizwan and Fakhar open with sharjeel as back up at least. I’d even drop Qadir and make Hafeez chip in a few overs to accommodate sharjeel.

With hitter on the other end Babar and Rizwan will win you games 8 out of 10 times. Nawaz should take up Qadirs role at least on these sort of tracks where spinners have low assistance anyway.

Sharjeel
Fakhar
Babar
Rizwan
Hafeez
Haider
Faheem
Nawaz
Hassan
Hasnain / Shaheen rested
Rauf

If Fakhar or Sharjeel are out early send Rizwan or Babar in early.
 
They say something and do something else. All the talk about modern day batting and Babar and rizwan play the power play overs with maximum 2 fielded outside the circle that 36 balls where at least 12 should hit the boundary. Open with Fakhar and Sharjeel send Babar at 3 with Hafeez at if you lose the 2nd wicket in the power play. If not Rizwan at 4. Worse come worse Rizwan and Fakhar open with sharjeel as back up at least. I’d even drop Qadir and make Hafeez chip in a few overs to accommodate sharjeel.

With hitter on the other end Babar and Rizwan will win you games 8 out of 10 times. Nawaz should take up Qadirs role at least on these sort of tracks where spinners have low assistance anyway.

Sharjeel
Fakhar
Babar
Rizwan
Hafeez
Haider
Faheem
Nawaz
Hassan
Hasnain / Shaheen rested
Rauf

If Fakhar or Sharjeel are out early send Rizwan or Babar in early.

Good line up only issue is Babar & Rizwan shouldn't come back to back, maybe babar 1 down & if he falls then rizwan otherwise Hafeez comes after Babar.
 
I would rotate few of our players: Rauf and Shaheen. Would open with Fakhar and Babar with Rizwan one down:

Fakhar
Babar
Rizwan
Hafeez
Haider
Nawaz
Faheem
Hassan
Hasnain
Zahid
Arshad (debut)
 
I would rotate few of our players: Rauf and Shaheen. Would open with Fakhar and Babar with Rizwan one down:

Fakhar
Babar
Rizwan
Hafeez
Haider
Nawaz
Faheem
Hassan
Hasnain
Zahid
Arshad (debut)

just heard Zahid has not even reached SA so I would just stick with Usman then
 
Rizwan
Asif Ali
Babar
Sharjeel
Fakhar
Haider
Hafeez
Faheem / Nawaz
Hasan
Shaheen
Rauf / Usman qadir

Babar comes to bat when Rizwan gets out. The power hitters follow each other on the other end. Everyone plays their natural game according to the circumstance and context of the match. If it's a spinning wicket then spinners (Nawaz, Qadir play). Would like to see khushdil be part of this rotation as well. Not fair to him to drop him so he can bully the domestics

Asif ali is this joke?
 
If Sharjeel aint playing today, I aint watching!
We play for too many bowlers for my liking.

Hafeez should be our 6th bowler if needed.

Just drop a bowler and play Sharjeel!
 
Apparently Zahid if afraid of flying alone so he will only fly with Test squad.

:)) was he coming via a private jet. I am sure there will be other people on the plane , whats the difference between a normal member of the public comforting you on the plane and your team mates comforting you.
 
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