"Spot-fixing is like a cancer for our sports" : Imran Khan

[Abdullah719]

Imran Khan speaking on TV:

"PSL is not international cricket!"

"All that means is the players who are paid well will come to Pakistan" re players coming to Pak for part of PSL

"The international players will only come to Pakistan if terrorism is reduced"

"I have forgotten about cricket as it was 25 years ago; I dont watch that much cricket as I dont have time"

"When I was captain against India in Lahore, I was offered by a bookie for a substantial sum so Sarf is not the first one to refuse"

"Things are so bad as People think that players are on the take if we do badly"

"Spot-fixing is like a cancer for our sports"

"A sifarishi like Najam Sethi has been brought into cricket"

"He has no background in cricket and there are much better people than him (who could run PCB)"

"Pakistan cricket needs a complete reorganization which NS is incapable of doing"

"We need someone who will throw out the departments and create FC teams from 6 regions and channel all our talent through those teams"

 

[Mueez]

I like Imran Khan but however if Najam Sethi is a ******** person, he still is doing his job quite nice!

 

[kingusama92]

I think Najam Sethi is doing a pretty good job.

Continuous progress with PSL, good appointment of Inzi, brought international cricket to PAK and has encouraged the inclusion of good young talent.

Political blinders seem to be getting in the way here for Imran Khan.

 

[Abdul]

I have forgotten about cricket as it was 25 years ago; I don't watch that much cricket as I don't have time.

Loves exposing himself, doesn't he?

 

[Abdullah719]

I think Najam Sethi is doing a pretty good job.

Continuous progress with PSL, good appointment of Inzi, brought international cricket to PAK and has encouraged the inclusion of good young talent.

Political blinders seem to be getting in the way here for Imran Khan.

As he said, he isn't even following cricket. His views on Sethi are completely based on politics rather the cricketing aspects of Sethi's tenure.

 

[backfootpunch]

Imran Khan is spot on regardless of his political allegiances - Pakistan's FC structure is diabolical to say the least.

He mentioned with the excessive number of teams but the issue is far deeper than that and most fundamental of those are the substandard pitches where we have 120-130km/h Malcolm Marshalls appearing on the scene. No wonder Pakistan isn't producing any test match batsman of late. Do I see any urgency in Najam Sethi to resolve this issue? Nope too busy spending time with PSL as if it's his own tournament and bringing cricket back to Pakistan which is great! but not so if the basic fundamentals are not addressed...

It's funny how some are so lost with the recent LOI success that they actually think Pakistan is moving forward, but in tests they're worse than SL, Ban and WI without a doubt if you were to compare man to man overall.

 

[kingusama92]

Imran Khan is spot on regardless of his political allegiances - Pakistan's FC structure is diabolical to say the least.

He mentioned with the excessive number of teams but the issue is far deeper than that and most fundamental of those are the substandard pitches where we have 120-130km/h Malcolm Marshalls appearing on the scene. No wonder Pakistan isn't producing any test match batsman of late. Do I see any urgency in Najam Sethi to resolve this issue? Nope too busy spending time with PSL as if it's his own tournament and bringing cricket back to Pakistan which is great! but not so if the basic fundamentals are not addressed...

It's funny how some are so lost with the recent LOI success that they actually think Pakistan is moving forward, but in tests they're worse than SL, Ban and WI without a doubt if you were to compare man to man overall.

Sure but look at the team he inherited.

You could put Imran Khan at the helm and that Test team will take 2-3 years to develop. They have a new captain, lost two senior batsmen, and introduced 2-3 young batsmen.

A CT trophy + SL sweep (built from his hirings), PSL success, and the return of international cricket is exceptional work. It's in fact world-class management on Sethi's part.

You have to give credit where it's due even if the appointment was nepotistic.

He's earning his money.

 

[backfootpunch]

Sure but look at the team he inherited.

You could put Imran Khan at the helm and that Test team will take 2-3 years to develop. They have a new captain, lost two senior batsmen, and introduced 2-3 young batsmen.

A CT trophy + SL sweep (built from his hirings), PSL success, and the return of international cricket is exceptional work. It's in fact world-class management on Sethi's part.

You have to give credit where it's due even if the appointment was nepotistic.

He's earning his money.

I see talent coming from the LOI scene but in tests it is looking very bleak! There are no quality pace bowlers and other than Azhar Ali the batting talent pool is among the worse in the world in the longer format.

Also Pakistan has stopped producing 140+ bowlers like they used to, India has overtaken Pakistan in both pace and performance in this department. Reality is Pakistan are a minnow test side and that cannot be outweighed by the CT, "PSL success" or the return of cricket back to Pakistan.

 

[Savak]

Sure but look at the team he inherited.

You could put Imran Khan at the helm and that Test team will take 2-3 years to develop. They have a new captain, lost two senior batsmen, and introduced 2-3 young batsmen.

A CT trophy + SL sweep (built from his hirings), PSL success, and the return of international cricket is exceptional work. It's in fact world-class management on Sethi's part.

You have to give credit where it's due even if the appointment was nepotistic.

He's earning his money.

Agreed. Imran needs to let this one go. Sethi even if he is ******** is doing a fantastic job. This is where people are misguided, a ******** is not always bad, sometimes he can be doing the job ten times better than a guy who gets the job on merit.

 

[waleed88]

Imran Khan apparently always hated on the domestic cricket in the 80s, considered by some as the golden period of our domestics. Imran Khan though a cricketing great, was never a product of our domestic structure. The same substandard system produced greats like Javed Miandad, Salim Malik, Inzamam, Mohammad Yousuf, Younis Khan. So maybe he is not completely right about it.

 

[waleed88]

Imran Khan himself was a ******** in the team because of his cousin Majid Khan and Javed Burki

 

[MMHS]

Imran Khan apparently always hated on the domestic cricket in the 80s, considered by some as the golden period of our domestics. Imran Khan though a cricketing great, was never a product of our domestic structure. The same substandard system produced greats like Javed Miandad, Salim Malik, Inzamam, Mohammad Yousuf, Younis Khan. So maybe he is not completely right about it.

He is 200% right about it. I am not aware of his politics, doesn’t need to either, I am not Pakistani, but I am well aware of his cricket.

Javed was never a domestic product, never - he made 311 at 18 for Karachi and went to ‘75 WC as a leg spin allrounder. Tony liked the kid and took him for 1976 County season (on Imran’s suggestion) and he debuted against Kiwis 6 months later - Test is history. Javed is 90% street fighter, 10% batsman - with his technique, without those 10-12 years in a County, I doubt if he would have been more than a 35-38 average batsman, like it didn’t happen for Haroon Rashid or few such.

Salim Malik was a crispy stroke maker who was again in same range like his brother in law Ijaz (or MoHa if you can relate). Went to English tour in 1987, impressed at Headingley and Oval, got a County contract at Essex for 3 seasons at right age - so, we saw the batsman Salim Malik between 1989 to 1994.


Inzi, MoYo and YK are PAK domestic products, partially true but last 2 were hardly better than Asad Shafiq at the start. It was Bob Woollmer that brought the world class batting discipline and perfection among these 2 batsmen. You’ll be surprised to notice the difference of stats/performance for MoYo, YK before & after Woolmer.

Inzi was unique and I do agree Imran on his assessment of Ul Haq. But, Imran left cricket after ‘92, never bothered to look back - so he couldn’t iron out Inzi’s flaws. Had he been there either he would have made Inzi or broken him, but this twisted, unfit, bottom heavy, unprofessional, stubborn giant who had been run out over 40 times in career!!! - still what left was a world class batsman IUH. At 33 (you can comfortably add 2/3 years with that) Bob Woolmer joined PAK - first time Ul Haq got a world class batting mentor and at the age when most batsmen plan to retire, despite carrying 2 human’s mass, in those 2/3 years under Bob actually indicates what that bulky man could have been had he joined English County for just 3 years in between 93-95.

Bowling is a natural skill therefore there are fast bowlers and spinners coming from domestics - but they were groomed in a flawed system, hence when Kumble, Murali played for 2 decades Qadir, Saq, Mushi, Kaneria, Ajmal couldn’t last even a full decade while WW would have ended exactly like Shoaib - that’s 15 years limping for 500 wickets max in combined cricket, even could be as worse as Zahid.

If you ask me, only 4/5!truly world class players have come from PAK domestics and through PAK’s own domestic mentoring - first 1 started career in a fantastic a British Indian FC system (Fazal, May be you can add Khan Md. as well, who played lots of cricket in UK), then Wasim Bari and the last one was Saeed Anwar.

Having said that, Saeed was unbelievably gifted, but again groomed up in a flawed system that couldn’t fix his fragility - not even Lara looked so classy in his first 20 runs, but Lara learned how to survive to convert that 20 into 200. Saeed never bothered to leave that flawed system to train properly and play in Counties - that’s why he ended with what he is - probably 12K runs and 33 hundreds. Otherwise, he would have ended with twice the figures he had - at least. The only world class player who fulfilled his potential comingbfrom domestic was Hanif, that I can give you.

You have a bad habit of indulging cricket with your political idioligy, which educated people shouldn’t do (these are railway tea stall style argument - who is saying is bigger than what said). Take out Imran Khan, PAK’s cricket glory will fall behind SRL and NZ - you can check the history.

 

[Syed1]

Loves exposing himself, doesn't he?

Still knows more than anyone on this forum ever will..

 

[waleed88]

He is 200% right about it. I am not aware of his politics, doesn’t need to either, I am not Pakistani, but I am well aware of his cricket.

Javed was never a domestic product, never - he made 311 at 18 for Karachi and went to ‘75 WC as a leg spin allrounder. Tony liked the kid and took him for 1976 County season (on Imran’s suggestion) and he debuted against Kiwis 6 months later - Test is history. Javed is 90% street fighter, 10% batsman - with his technique, without those 10-12 years in a County, I doubt if he would have been more than a 35-38 average batsman, like it didn’t happen for Haroon Rashid or few such.

Salim Malik was a crispy stroke maker who was again in same range like his brother in law Ijaz (or MoHa if you can relate). Went to English tour in 1987, impressed at Headingley and Oval, got a County contract at Essex for 3 seasons at right age - so, we saw the batsman Salim Malik between 1989 to 1994.


Inzi, MoYo and YK are PAK domestic products, partially true but last 2 were hardly better than Asad Shafiq at the start. It was Bob Woollmer that brought the world class batting discipline and perfection among these 2 batsmen. You’ll be surprised to notice the difference of stats/performance for MoYo, YK before & after Woolmer.

Inzi was unique and I do agree Imran on his assessment of Ul Haq. But, Imran left cricket after ‘92, never bothered to look back - so he couldn’t iron out Inzi’s flaws. Had he been there either he would have made Inzi or broken him, but this twisted, unfit, bottom heavy, unprofessional, stubborn giant who had been run out over 40 times in career!!! - still what left was a world class batsman IUH. At 33 (you can comfortably add 2/3 years with that) Bob Woolmer joined PAK - first time Ul Haq got a world class batting mentor and at the age when most batsmen plan to retire, despite carrying 2 human’s mass, in those 2/3 years under Bob actually indicates what that bulky man could have been had he joined English County for just 3 years in between 93-95.

Bowling is a natural skill therefore there are fast bowlers and spinners coming from domestics - but they were groomed in a flawed system, hence when Kumble, Murali played for 2 decades Qadir, Saq, Mushi, Kaneria, Ajmal couldn’t last even a full decade while WW would have ended exactly like Shoaib - that’s 15 years limping for 500 wickets max in combined cricket, even could be as worse as Zahid.

If you ask me, only 4/5!truly world class players have come from PAK domestics and through PAK’s own domestic mentoring - first 1 started career in a fantastic a British Indian FC system (Fazal, May be you can add Khan Md. as well, who played lots of cricket in UK), then Wasim Bari and the last one was Saeed Anwar.

Having said that, Saeed was unbelievably gifted, but again groomed up in a flawed system that couldn’t fix his fragility - not even Lara looked so classy in his first 20 runs, but Lara learned how to survive to convert that 20 into 200. Saeed never bothered to leave that flawed system to train properly and play in Counties - that’s why he ended with what he is - probably 12K runs and 33 hundreds. Otherwise, he would have ended with twice the figures he had - at least. The only world class player who fulfilled his potential comingbfrom domestic was Hanif, that I can give you.

You have a bad habit of indulging cricket with your political idioligy, which educated people shouldn’t do (these are railway tea stall style argument - who is saying is bigger than what said). Take out Imran Khan, PAK’s cricket glory will fall behind SRL and NZ - you can check the history.

I deliberately didn't mention Anwar, since he was really too gifted to be anywhere near the names mentioned above. He was once in a decade batsman for me. The man had 19 ODI centuries by 1999 in just 10 years of International cricket being a Pakisatni batsman and after his daughter's death he scored only 1 in 4 years which was his last ODI match in WC 2003 vs India.

 

[waleed88]

Not only that some other brilliant stroke makers like Basit Ali, and accumulators like Asif Mujtaba were never appreciated by Imran Khan, on the contrary he was already scrutinizing their technique sitting from the commentary box [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION]
Which is why we missed some decent good bats in the 90s

 

[waleed88]

Mohammad Yousuf is the most gifted stroke maker to come out of the domestics since Saeed Anwar came. Don't think our domestics will produce some batsmen like that, but ofcourse Khan knows more.

Our domestics actually started to deteriorate in late 90s and early 2000s... clear example of that is how one sided and embarrassingly we lost to Australian in Colombo two test matches, that is probably the biggest sign of deterioration of quality, the names coming after Anwar, Inzi, Malik and Youhana weren't that great.

 

[ManFan]

Politics aside, Sethi is doing a great job. IK is a legend of cricket and he served plenty of humble pie after the CT when posters mocked him for suggesting to bat first.

 

[Mamoon]

Politics aside, Sethi is doing a great job. IK is a legend of cricket and he served plenty of humble pie after the CT when posters mocked him for suggesting to bat first.

By his own admission, he doesn't watch cricket anymore. He proved to be right based on the final, but his statement was general because he says the same thing every time. We beat SA, SL and ENG by bowling first, but he would have suggested the same for those games as well.

If you look at his cricket comments over the last decade or so, you won't find anything new or insightful, but that is because he doesn't follow the game anymore, which can be highlighted by the fact that he was clamoring for Younis to bat at number 3 in the 2015 World Cup, since he is still living in the 80s and 90s cricket where you need a 70 SR number 3 batsman to hold the innings together.

 

[ManFan]

By his own admission, he doesn't watch cricket anymore. He proved to be right based on the final, but his statement was general because he says the same thing every time. We beat SA, SL and ENG by bowling first, but he would have suggested the same for those games as well.

If you look at his cricket comments over the last decade or so, you won't find anything new or insightful, but that is because he doesn't follow the game anymore, which can be highlighted by the fact that he was clamoring for Younis to bat at number 3 in the 2015 World Cup, since he is still living in the 80s and 90s cricket where you need a 70 SR number 3 batsman to hold the innings together.

IK's main focus for the past 20+ years has been politics. Interviewers can't help bring up a question or two on cricket when they have the chance to talk to him. Of course, Chappeli's ideas would also sound out-dated but not as much as IK'S because he still commentates.

 

[Mamoon]

IK's main focus for the past 20+ years has been politics. Interviewers can't help bring up a question or two on cricket when they have the chance to talk to him. Of course, Chappeli's ideas would also sound out-dated but not as much as IK'S because he still commentates.

Which is fair enough, but it is disappointing to see him bring politics to the table whenever he is asked about cricket. His criticism for Sethi is often over the top with respect to the work he has been doing as the PCB Chairman.

 

[Syed1]

So from what I gather from this thread is that some posters who have never played any professional level cricket and most they know about cricket is through this forum think they know more about it than a world cup winning captain and ATG alrounder???? )


Give me a break.



Some people over-hype their own importance.

 

[MMHS]

Not only that some other brilliant stroke makers like Basit Ali, and accumulators like Asif Mujtaba were never appreciated by Imran Khan, on the contrary he was already scrutinizing their technique sitting from the commentary box [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION]
Which is why we missed some decent good bats in the 90s

You are making a gross mistake of understanding the level - it's Imran Khan who is talking, not a random PP poster. The guy has bowled more balls to the likes of Viv, Gavaskar, Greig C, AB, Grineedge, Gower, BA Richards, Lloyd, Boycott ...... than you have seen in your entire cricket viewer life; obviously there has to be some difference between "brilliant stroke maker" & "accumulator" in your book and his book - so should be the appreciation level.

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

The problem with people like Najam Sethi is that they are simply not competent enough to do a good job. Their whole ideology is rooted in systemic flaws and they reek of malpractices.

Cricket board should run like a slick machine with system of checks and balances with main policies focusing on betterment of cricket. Yet we are still stuck in a time where domestic cricketers are paid peanuts and fed daigoun wali biryani and play with substandard balls on terrible pitches while Sethi is being paid thousands of pounds in the form of TADA.

I don't have to defend Khan but Sethi is being glorified for doing the bare minimum. Get in the auditors, show the finances are great, show everything has gotten better and we shall all praise Sethi.

 

[waleed88]

You are making a gross mistake of understanding the level - it's Imran Khan who is talking, not a random PP poster. The guy has bowled more balls to the likes of Viv, Gavaskar, Greig C, AB, Grineedge, Gower, BA Richards, Lloyd, Boycott ...... than you have seen in your entire cricket viewer life; obviously there has to be some difference between "brilliant stroke maker" & "accumulator" in your book and his book - so should be the appreciation level.

Don't understand what's eating you inside? I am criticizing Khan's bias towards certain batsmen that he himself supported, not being a judge on his ability to judge talent. Numerous analysts have pointed out the injustice Asif faced in his career, in England he was the batsman that got a 50 in 1992 while Inzi was a failure, but was still dropped despite that. Inzi was the preferential child at that time.

As far as Basit goes, he has been on record saying he wasn't treated fairly as a batsman in the side he deserved to have had as a player. Blames Imran for bias against him in the team.

 

[kingusama92]

The problem with people like Najam Sethi is that they are simply not competent enough to do a good job. Their whole ideology is rooted in systemic flaws and they reek of malpractices.

Cricket board should run like a slick machine with system of checks and balances with main policies focusing on betterment of cricket. Yet we are still stuck in a time where domestic cricketers are paid peanuts and fed daigoun wali biryani and play with substandard balls on terrible pitches while Sethi is being paid thousands of pounds in the form of TADA.

I don't have to defend Khan but Sethi is being glorified for doing the bare minimum. Get in the auditors, show the finances are great, show everything has gotten better and we shall all praise Sethi.

And a former cricketer would be competent on what basis?

Management of an organization doesn't require a former cricketer (it's a nice bonus but not mandatory).

Najam Sethi has a master's degree in Economics from Cambridge for crying out loud. He has leadership experience in various roles including his publishing company. This is not some average Joe off the street.

I completely agree with your premise of establishing strong policies and making changes (i.e. pitches, domestic salaries) but it happens over time. Criticizing Sethi while clear progress has been made since his time at the helm is unfair.

 

[MMHS]

Don't understand what's eating you inside? I am criticizing Khan's bias towards certain batsmen that he himself supported, not being a judge on his ability to judge talent. Numerous analysts have pointed out the injustice Asif faced in his career, in England he was the batsman that got a 50 in 1992 while Inzi was a failure, but was still dropped despite that. Inzi was the preferential child at that time.

As far as Basit goes, he has been on record saying he wasn't treated fairly as a batsman in the side he deserved to have had as a player. Blames Imran for bias against him in the team.

Imran retired after March 25, 1992 and went for his own way without looking back. PAK toured ENG in June under Javed; who opted for Ul Haq for first 4 Tests, he failed - then Mujtaba came to play the Oval Test, after PAK lost the Leeds Test. 25 years later, we probably know why Ul Haq was given 4 Tests ........ not that much a bad choice I believe.

Basit debuted in 1993 WI tour under Wasim, a year after Imran's retirement - then self retired from team in 1994 for corruption in the team, only to come back few months later to play with same players (& some of them being captain) he accused previously - finally lost his WC spot in 1996 to accommodate Javed, for which he blames everyone - from Zibrail feresta to his cat, but not the man who used politics and connections to blackmail in to the team - Javed, his big brother of his own city Karachi.

Imran deserves better treatment from fans of this shallow character Basit Ali, he is too big to be biased against such a mediocre player. If Imran wanted, Basit Ali won't have played even FC matches in PAK, let alone for PAK.

 

[DRsohail]

He is 200% right about it. I am not aware of his politics, doesnÂ’t need to either, I am not Pakistani, but I am well aware of his cricket.

Javed was never a domestic product, never - he made 311 at 18 for Karachi and went to ‘75 WC as a leg spin allrounder. Tony liked the kid and took him for 1976 County season (on Imran’s suggestion) and he debuted against Kiwis 6 months later - Test is history. Javed is 90% street fighter, 10% batsman - with his technique, without those 10-12 years in a County, I doubt if he would have been more than a 35-38 average batsman, like it didn’t happen for Haroon Rashid or few such.

Salim Malik was a crispy stroke maker who was again in same range like his brother in law Ijaz (or MoHa if you can relate). Went to English tour in 1987, impressed at Headingley and Oval, got a County contract at Essex for 3 seasons at right age - so, we saw the batsman Salim Malik between 1989 to 1994.


Inzi, MoYo and YK are PAK domestic products, partially true but last 2 were hardly better than Asad Shafiq at the start. It was Bob Woollmer that brought the world class batting discipline and perfection among these 2 batsmen. YouÂ’ll be surprised to notice the difference of stats/performance for MoYo, YK before & after Woolmer.

Inzi was unique and I do agree Imran on his assessment of Ul Haq. But, Imran left cricket after ‘92, never bothered to look back - so he couldn’t iron out Inzi’s flaws. Had he been there either he would have made Inzi or broken him, but this twisted, unfit, bottom heavy, unprofessional, stubborn giant who had been run out over 40 times in career!!! - still what left was a world class batsman IUH. At 33 (you can comfortably add 2/3 years with that) Bob Woolmer joined PAK - first time Ul Haq got a world class batting mentor and at the age when most batsmen plan to retire, despite carrying 2 human’s mass, in those 2/3 years under Bob actually indicates what that bulky man could have been had he joined English County for just 3 years in between 93-95.

Bowling is a natural skill therefore there are fast bowlers and spinners coming from domestics - but they were groomed in a flawed system, hence when Kumble, Murali played for 2 decades Qadir, Saq, Mushi, Kaneria, Ajmal couldnÂ’t last even a full decade while WW would have ended exactly like Shoaib - thatÂ’s 15 years limping for 500 wickets max in combined cricket, even could be as worse as Zahid.

If you ask me, only 4/5!truly world class players have come from PAK domestics and through PAKÂ’s own domestic mentoring - first 1 started career in a fantastic a British Indian FC system (Fazal, May be you can add Khan Md. as well, who played lots of cricket in UK), then Wasim Bari and the last one was Saeed Anwar.

Having said that, Saeed was unbelievably gifted, but again groomed up in a flawed system that couldnÂ’t fix his fragility - not even Lara looked so classy in his first 20 runs, but Lara learned how to survive to convert that 20 into 200. Saeed never bothered to leave that flawed system to train properly and play in Counties - thatÂ’s why he ended with what he is - probably 12K runs and 33 hundreds. Otherwise, he would have ended with twice the figures he had - at least. The only world class player who fulfilled his potential comingbfrom domestic was Hanif, that I can give you.

You have a bad habit of indulging cricket with your political idioligy, which educated people shouldnÂ’t do (these are railway tea stall style argument - who is saying is bigger than what said). Take out Imran Khan, PAKÂ’s cricket glory will fall behind SRL and NZ - you can check the history.

very well explained...khan was talkin on tv and said that i did polished my game in UK as dmany pakistani did and i learn cricket there ...he was calling our domestic system rubbish and rightly so.

 

[waleed88]

Imran retired after March 25, 1992 and went for his own way without looking back. PAK toured ENG in June under Javed; who opted for Ul Haq for first 4 Tests, he failed - then Mujtaba came to play the Oval Test, after PAK lost the Leeds Test. 25 years later, we probably know why Ul Haq was given 4 Tests ........ not that much a bad choice I believe.

Basit debuted in 1993 WI tour under Wasim, a year after Imran's retirement - then self retired from team in 1994 for corruption in the team, only to come back few months later to play with same players (& some of them being captain) he accused previously - finally lost his WC spot in 1996 to accommodate Javed, for which he blames everyone - from Zibrail feresta to his cat, but not the man who used politics and connections to blackmail in to the team - Javed, his big brother of his own city Karachi.

Imran deserves better treatment from fans of this shallow character Basit Ali, he is too big to be biased against such a mediocre player. If Imran wanted, Basit Ali won't have played even FC matches in PAK, let alone for PAK.

Lets be honest, Khan was following the team around with his commentary stints and had major say in who became captain, vice captain, and who should be part of the team where he clearly let his mind felt abt Mujtaba. Don't you forget how Miandad was ousted from captaincy and Wasim became captain.

 

[MMHS]

Lets be honest, Khan was following the team around with his commentary stints and had major say in who became captain, vice captain, and who should be part of the team where he clearly let his mind felt abt Mujtaba. Don't you forget how Miandad was ousted from captaincy and Wasim became captain.

Are you sure, you are honest in the bold part?

 

[waleed88]

Are you sure, you are honest in the bold part?

Read Miandad's autobiography.

 

[MMHS]

Read Miandad's autobiography.

Are you sure that Javed is honest there? I didn't read his book, but would love to read that part of his 1996 WC assignment. I don't understand what's your point here? If it's true that Imran had a say, or he influenced something, than it must be for a good reason - the guy dropped his mentor and cousin Mazid Khan when Mazid didn't deserve a spot; Javed kept plugging his nephew in PAK team for a decade!!!!!. And his contribution as Director cricket is legendary - can't you see the difference?

Wasim should have been Captain of PAK team from 26th March 1992 - Javed's connection kept him in charge for 1 undeserving year, which saw WC winners PAK losing 6 straight ODI to WI/AUS and miss out 1992 WSC finals. Miandad wasn't ousted, he himself step down (that little credit I'll give him, he isn't Misbah/Afridi after all) after AUS tour and retired following winter from Test, only to force his way back to WC team 2 years later. Since Imran and his retirement Javed forced his way to play at least 10 Tests and 40+ ODI for a stats like 40 average in Test and 30/60 in ODI (Don't catch me unless grossly mistaken). At a time, when PAK's batting resources was probably at it's richest and Wasim undoubtedly among world's very best, if not best cricketer in that period between 1990 to 1996.

I tell you one dirty secret (don't ask me to submit exhibits and memory has faded) - Javed was instrumental in the revolt, predominantly by Karachi based players - Latif, Muztaba, Basit, Saeed, Tauseef that ousted Akram - Rambo Raja wasn't part of it, neither Ul Haq, or Ijaz, not sure about Sohail; Malik was a compromise beneficiary, as they decided that appointing Waquar for long term will be like a ticking bomb. WY was made Captain after Akram for ZIM Series and he rewarded that by bringing Javed & Tauseef back; but then commonsense prevailed and Salim Malik was made a compromise choice in a stalemate.

Please don't get personal - like Imran has a man crash for Sethi, you have the same for him. You won't find me writing a single word against NS, because I do believe the guy might be political crook, appointed dubiously, but guy is more than capable and educated enough to run the show. Similarly, you should discuss PTI leader Imran in time pass, let's keep cricketer Imran for this section.

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

And a former cricketer would be competent on what basis?

Management of an organization doesn't require a former cricketer (it's a nice bonus but not mandatory).

Najam Sethi has a master's degree in Economics from Cambridge for crying out loud. He has leadership experience in various roles including his publishing company. This is not some average Joe off the street.

I completely agree with your premise of establishing strong policies and making changes (i.e. pitches, domestic salaries) but it happens over time. Criticizing Sethi while clear progress has been made since his time at the helm is unfair.

One. I have never said that a former cricketer will be better.

Two. Degrees don't make people honest. If you think that Pakistan is an ideal state, we don't have an argument here. Good luck with that.

 

[kingusama92]

One. I have never said that a former cricketer will be better.

Two. Degrees don't make people honest. If you think that Pakistan is an ideal state, we don't have an argument here. Good luck with that.

1) Who would you like as chairman?

2) Degrees don't determine honesty but do display one's qualification for the position. Sethi's educational and professional background are apt for the position he holds.

Pakistan being an ideal or unideal state has nothing to do with Sethi's performance.

If you wish to criticize the system that's fine and I agree. But you clearly stated Sethi is incompetent and I refute this point completely as it's untrue.