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England skipper Joe Root said that though the Ashes series has been dominated by the ball, Steve Smith has been the difference between both teams.

Australia won the Old Trafford Test by 185 runs on Sunday, 8 September, after bowling England out in the final session of day five, to retain the Ashes. Smith has played no small part, having so far accumulated 671 runs from five innings, at an average of 134.20. Ben Stokes, who made a brilliant 135* in England's unlikely one-wicket win in the third Test, is a distant second, with 354 runs, despite having played three innings more than Smith.

"It has been a series dominated by the ball," Root said after England's defeat. "Look, both batting sides have very experienced players who have not performed how they would have liked, and that tells a story by itself. Take Steve Smith out and it would be very similar from both teams."

England missed a couple of chances to dismiss Smith in the fourth Test, but Jack Leach overstepping when Smith was caught in the slips on 118 probably hurt them the most. The former captain gladly accepted the reprieve and went on to register his third Test double-hundred, finishing up on 211, before following it up with 82 in the second dig.

"I thought it was a brilliant Test match and a good wicket," Root said. "It was an important toss to win, but having got them in the position we did early on, it was important to make the most of that.

"Credit to Australia, it was a good partnership for them. We were not as good as we would have liked to be and consistent throughout the whole game. Bowling at Steve Smith in his form is difficult, and you have to make sure you take all your chances. We did not do that and that cost us."

Root, however, was happy with the fight England showed. While at Headingley, they dramatically turned the tables on Australia in a last-gasp effort, they tried their best to hang in there and salvage a draw, with No.8 Craig Overton and No.10 Jack Leach eating up a combined 156 balls.

"When you find yourself in a situation like today, you learn a lot about your team and the guys," Root said. "I thought everyone showed a lot of courage, resilience, a lot of character, and everyone should be really proud about how they approached the day."

Though the Ashes might no longer be within England's grasp, there are Test Championship points at stake at The Oval, and Root looked forward to the prospect of finishing on a stalemate. "I think we will look at other aspects of the game and think maybe we could have been better," he said. "Most importantly, we have got to look forward to the next Test match and get something out of this series.

"I know the Ashes are not coming back, but in terms of the Test Championship at the end of the two-year cycle, those points could be crucial. You never want to lose an Ashes series. Every game against Australia matters. Turning up at The Oval and putting in a strong performance to win the game is crucial for this group.

"It matters to me, it matters to everyone involved. It is a big game."

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This should hurt Root more than it seems to have done.

He has maybe one opener, no #3, the captaincy has affected his batting, nobody but him averages more that 36, he has mishandled his bowlers, Bairstow averages 24 over the last eighteen months, Buttler has one test hundred in thirty tests.

Time to swing the axe....

Burns
Denly
Pope? Livingstone?
Root
Morgan (cap)
Stokes
Foakes (w)
Curran
Archer
Broad
Leach
 
This should hurt Root more than it seems to have done.

He has maybe one opener, no #3, the captaincy has affected his batting, nobody but him averages more that 36, he has mishandled his bowlers, Bairstow averages 24 over the last eighteen months, Buttler has one test hundred in thirty tests.

Time to swing the axe....

Burns
Denly
Pope? Livingstone?
Root
Morgan (cap)
Stokes
Foakes (w)
Curran
Archer
Broad
Leach

Isn't selecting Morgan part of the same flawed thinking that elevated the likes of Roy and Buttler to the test team based on white ball form ? Morgan has shown nothing in county cricket to suggest he will be able to perform at test level, he averages 33 across more than a hundred matches.

Test cricket requires grit and adaptability, Morgan's leadership in the ODI game has just revolved around variants of telling the lads to express themselves fearlessly and take the attack to the bowlers. I'm afraid that mentality won't cut it in test cricket.
 
Isn't selecting Morgan part of the same flawed thinking that elevated the likes of Roy and Buttler to the test team based on white ball form ? Morgan has shown nothing in county cricket to suggest he will be able to perform at test level, he averages 33 across more than a hundred matches.

Test cricket requires grit and adaptability, Morgan's leadership in the ODI game has just revolved around variants of telling the lads to express themselves fearlessly and take the attack to the bowlers. I'm afraid that mentality won't cut it in test cricket.

Morgan has two test centuries, one against an excellent Pakistan attack.
 
Morgan has two test centuries, one against an excellent Pakistan attack.

Yes, but it was 9 years ago, which is about as relevant now as Stuart Broad scoring 169 against the same attack.

To be honest, his lack of commitment to test cricket by not trying to force his way into the side through sheer weight of runs in first-class cricket is an indictment. No way does his captaincy warrant him waltzing into the squad now. I just feel it's a naive solution to a very complex problem.
 
where smith rose just to a different level, root found deeper holes every game to fall off....

but it is a fair comment, smith is the difference and thts it
 
This should hurt Root more than it seems to have done.

He has maybe one opener, no #3, the captaincy has affected his batting, nobody but him averages more that 36, he has mishandled his bowlers, Bairstow averages 24 over the last eighteen months, Buttler has one test hundred in thirty tests.

Time to swing the axe....

Burns
Denly
Pope? Livingstone?
Root
Morgan (cap)
Stokes
Foakes (w)
Curran
Archer
Broad
Leach
He did look like he was holding back tears from the videos shared on social media.

Think he knows it's over for him as captain.
 
So whats the plan, sack Root and the batsmen will bat better and the bowlers will suddenly be unplayable.
 
So whats the plan, sack Root and the batsmen will bat better and the bowlers will suddenly be unplayable.

Root will bat better.

The bowlers will be used better too.
 
England failing is always a delight. I think this shameless Root will retire like the other mentally weak England players like Trescothick, Swann, Trott, etc. Useless player. Just like Kohli. So much hype but pathetic to the core.
 
So whats the plan, sack Root and the batsmen will bat better and the bowlers will suddenly be unplayable.

Root is a mentally weak cricketer who has been figured out. Teams know this guy can't bat under pressure and can't convert any score. England media engine should stop portraying him as some kind of a great batsman.
 
"It matters to me, it matters to everyone involved. It is a big game."

Stop with the drama already, Root. Useless batsman, useless captain. England can make Boycott's grandma as the captain and she will bat and captain better than Root.
 
Is he really? he is really helping the aussies sure but they should have won the last game as well, an incredible innings and some aussie stupidity cost them the game, they have been the better team with or without smith this series.
 
So whats the plan, sack Root and the batsmen will bat better and the bowlers will suddenly be unplayable.
No but they might just get a good batsman back, because root clearly isn't coping well with captaincy. Take away his captaincy push him back to no 4, england might get an actually capable no 4 rather than rubbish like roy or denly.
 
Even with Archer, England have been sort of outplayed so far. Tells you about how strong Aussies are.
 
So whats the plan, sack Root and the batsmen will bat better and the bowlers will suddenly be unplayable.

The strategy, the way they bat, the way the bowlers bowled, field placements, how many overs per spell for each bowler etc, root got all of these wrong, and as such shouldn't be captain if England want to move forward in Tests. England need to go back to basics, they're ODI team has now been established, they need a separate test team with a few cross over players, rather than trying to squeeze their whole ODI team into the test set
 
England failing is always a delight. I think this shameless Root will retire like the other mentally weak England players like Trescothick, Swann, Trott, etc. Useless player. Just like Kohli. So much hype but pathetic to the core.

I agree that there are some mentally weak English cricketers. But there is a difference between mental weakness and being mentally unwell. As anyone who has read his award-winning book will attest, Trescothick was a very ill man. So in the end was Trott.
 
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Root is right. Two absolutely awful batting units were playing for the urn expect one bloke who alone was making all the difference.
 
This should hurt Root more than it seems to have done.

He has maybe one opener, no #3, the captaincy has affected his batting, nobody but him averages more that 36, he has mishandled his bowlers, Bairstow averages 24 over the last eighteen months, Buttler has one test hundred in thirty tests.

Time to swing the axe....

Burns
Denly
Pope? Livingstone?
Root
Morgan (cap)
Stokes
Foakes (w)
Curran
Archer
Broad
Leach

Interesting, I'd have woakes definitely in England conditions, like you said root has handled the bowling poorly and woakes has suffered cause of this also
 
I agree that there are some mentally weak English cricketers. But there is a difference between mental weakness and being mentally unwell. As anyone who has read his award-winning book will attest, Trescothick was a very ill man. So in the end was Trott.

Doesn't matter. At the end, they couldn't soak up the pressure of an international sport. Root belongs to the same category. He should retire for the sake and England cricket. Only a matter of time for the ROOOOOO chants to convert to BOOOOOO chants in English grounds.
 
For a short-term, Burns and Denly seem to be a fine pick for the opening slot. Neither would do wonders but they can do a decent job for England for next few years if they remain focused towards their game.

There is no one good enough for no.3 spot.

Root should bat at 4 & resign from captaincy post.

Only one between Bairstow and Buttler should play and whoever it is, should play as a specialist bat at no.6 or 5 which team must be knowing better than me.

Foakes as a wicket-keeper.
 
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England should field the following line up -

Burns
Livingstone
Pope
Bairstow
Stokes
Foakes (w)
Sam Curran
Woakes
Archer
Broad (c)
Leach
 
Apart from brilliant innings from Stokes and broad bowling in patches it was a nothing series for England. They got away from Jail in the last test after getting bowled out for 67 thanks to stellar innings from Stokes.
 
Australia was all over England.

This should have been 3-0 had Smith not missed one test due to injury and that freak Stokes innings.
 
Sure Smith was the difference between the two sides. But what about your own performance Root? Why did you not stand up when the team needed you? Where are your big daddy 100s? Seriously this sounds like a excuse to me rather than a sign of reality.
 
England failing is always a delight. I think this shameless Root will retire like the other mentally weak England players like Trescothick, Swann, Trott, etc. Useless player. Just like Kohli. So much hype but pathetic to the core.
I agree with root being mentally weak but comparing root to kohli is an insult. kohli is far ahead everyone not named smith. Williamson is overrated as **** outside n.z. He averages below 30 against most top teams away from home.
 
burns
denly
root
moeen ali
stokes
foakes
woakes
rashid
curran
archer/Anderson
broad

this is their best possible team.
7 bowling options.
they will get good rest. key bowlers can recover quicker. You will realize how important this is if you have actually cricket at a competitive level.

2 spinners who are good in English conditions.
woakes is a perfect all rounder for English conditions.
curran was their best player in home conditions vs india. for some reason he doesn't start. I thought india and Pakistan had a lot of favouritism involved when it comes to selection but it seems like the English are no different. Perhaps cause he is from Zimbabwe.
problem is the fast bowlers. archer is sort of overrated. broad and Anderson are quality but they need the toss to be in England favour.

this team above can beat the Aussies if they win the toss. Not sure if they can when the toss goes against them. In England conditions matter unless you have smith or a world class bowling attack which England lack.
 
England's horrendous batting has been the difference. Apart from burns and to an extent root, there is no one else in the line up who on appearance looked like they could play attrutional Steve Waugh type cricket
 
As for Steve Smith. A legendary world class batsman but a disgraceful cry baby cheat.

The South Africans and Rabada had worked him out in South Africa but other teams have zero idea on how and where to bowl to him
 
As for Steve Smith. A legendary world class batsman but a disgraceful cry baby cheat.

The South Africans and Rabada had worked him out in South Africa but other teams have zero idea on how and where to bowl to him

Smith's mistake is that he didn't told to anyone and he ignored that,Warner was the main culprit.
Next time he will go to South Africa he will be successful because he just loves batting.
 
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