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Taliban warns there will be 'consequences' if Biden delays withdrawal of US troops

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The deadline for troops to withdraw from Afghanistan is just days away and the desperate evacuation of people is running out of time.

The Taliban has met with Sky News in Doha to discuss what happens next - and issued a stark warning about the withdrawal of troops from the country.

Taliban spokesperson Dr Suhail Shaheen said: "It's a red line. President Biden announced that on 31 August they would withdraw all their military forces. So if they extend it that means they are extending occupation while there is no need for that."

He added: "If the US or UK were to seek additional time to continue evacuations - the answer is no. Or there would be consequences.

"It will create mistrust between us. If they are intent on continuing the occupation it will provoke a reaction."

It comes as Boris Johnson is set to personally plead with Joe Biden to extend a deadline for US troops leaving Afghanistan to allow more people to flee the reign of terror of the Taliban.

Meanwhile, desperate scenes grow at Kabul international airport. People prepared to leave everything and risk their lives to escape life under the militant group's rule.

When pressed on this issue - that people clinging on to an aircraft leaving the country is far from routine during a political transition - Dr Shaheen dismissed it as economic migration.

He said: "I assure you it is not about being worried or scared.

"They want to reside in Western countries and that is a kind of economic migration because Afghanistan is a poor country and 70% of the people of Afghanistan live under the line of poverty so everyone wants to resettle in Western countries to have a prosperous life. It is not about [being] scared."

But fear is something we are hearing time and time again from Afghan citizens and refugees.

Video footage has emerged claiming to show the Taliban going door to door threatening people and seeking former government workers. There are also reports of girls' schools being closed in some provinces.

"All fake news," said Dr Shaheen in response to those reports. "I can assure you there are many reports by our opponents claiming what is not based on realities."

In recent days 300 students - mostly girls - have been evacuated to Qatar for their safety. Women have fought hard for their rights in Afghanistan - for an education, a career, basic freedoms and opportunities.

But many women and girls are now terrified of what they stand to lose under Taliban rule.

Dr Shaheen said: "They will lose nothing. Only if they have no hijab, they will have a hijab… women are required to have the same rights as you have in your country but with a hijab."

When pressed on this issue that nothing will change, Dr Shaheen is insistent: "Now, women teachers have resumed work. Lost nothing. Female journalists they have resumed their work. Lost nothing."

Female broadcasters have been seen back on air since the Taliban took control of the country. But there are many other accounts of women who say they're too scared to return to work or have been told to stay at home.

There is a fear that conditions in the country will deteriorate after international troops and foreign media pull out.

And as that date fast approaches for British, American and NATO forces to leave Afghanistan, I asked what the Taliban would say to the families of those who died trying to help Afghanistan.

Dr Shaheen said: "They occupied our country. If we occupy your country. What you will say to me? What if I killed your people in your country what you will say?

"I think all people suffered a lot. Bloodshed. Destruction. Everything. But we say the past is the past. Part of our past history. Now we want to focus on the future."

https://news.sky.com/story/afghanis...biden-delays-withdrawal-of-us-troops-12388436
 
Boris Johnson will personally plead with Joe Biden to extend a deadline for US troops leaving Afghanistan to allow more people to flee the reign of terror of the Taliban.

The prime minister will use an emergency G7 summit of the world's most powerful leaders to appeal to the president to delay the 31 August deadline to tackle the chaos and mayhem at Kabul airport.

And ahead of the summit, Mr Biden signalled he could be willing to bow to demands for an extension, revealing discussions were already under way and saying he would tell the G7: "We will see what we can do."

After the Ministry of Defence revealed that seven people died in the crush at the airport over the weekend, taking the total airport death toll to 20, Mr Johnson announced that the summit planned since last week would take place on Tuesday.

And in a move clearly intended to exert pressure on Mr Biden, the prime minister - who currently chairs the G7 - placed the evacuation chaos and preventing a humanitarian crisis at the top of agenda for the video-link summit.

"It is vital that the international community works together to ensure safe evacuations, prevent a humanitarian crisis and support the Afghan people to secure the gains of the last 20 years," Mr Johnson tweeted.

Minutes later the president's press secretary, Jen Psaki, said: "The leaders will discuss continuing our close co-ordination of Afghanistan policy and evacuating our citizens, the brave Afghans who stood with us over the last two decades and other vulnerable Afghans.

"They will also discuss plans to provide humanitarian assistance and support for Afghan refugees."

Later, at a White House news conference, the president suggested he may be ready to bow to pressure from Mr Johnson and other world leaders such as Germany's Angela Merkel and President Emmanuel Macron of France to back down.

Asked about extending the 31 August deadline, Mr Biden said: "There are discussions going on about extending. Our hope is that we don't have to extend, but there are discussions going on about how far we are.

Asked what he would tell G7 leaders pressing for an extension, he said: "I will tell them 'We will see what we can do'."

And asked if he had discussed delaying the withdrawal of troops with the Taliban, Mr Biden said: "Obviously we've discussed a lot with the Taliban.

"They have been co-operative in in extending some of the perimeter (of the airport). It remains to be seen whether we ask that question."

But the Taliban has issued a stark warning that there will be "consequences" if Mr Biden delays the withdrawal of US troops.

Taliban spokesperson Dr Suhail Shaheen told Sly News: "It's a red line. President Biden announced that on 31 August they would withdraw all their military forces. So if they extend it that means they are extending occupation while there is no need for that."

He added: "If the US or UK were to seek additional time to continue evacuations - the answer is no. Or there would be consequences."

Earlier, armed forces minister James Heappey told Sky News that requests for a delay had been raised by both Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab and Defence Secretary Ben Wallace with their US counterparts.

The MoD also announced that more than 1,720 people were airlifted from Kabul by the RAF over the weekend on eight flights, taking the total to 5,725 since the airlift began.

The Times is reporting that Britain is to step up the mass evacuation of British and Afghan citizens from Afghanistan this week in plans to fly a further 6,000 people from the chaos in Kabul.

But ahead of the G7 talks, Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer has written to the prime minister asking what he has done to secure more time for UK troops to evacuate Britons and eligible Afghans out of Kabul.

Claiming there are "too many unanswered questions" remaining about the rescue mission in Afghanistan as the deadline approaches for US withdrawal on 31 August, Sir Keir has posed seven questions.

"Proper planning for the coming days will ensure that no one to whom we owe so much will be left behind," the Labour leader wrote.

He asks whether the prime minister has spoken personally to President Biden to ask him to extend the evacuation period and whether the UK was among those at a NATO foreign ministers' meeting on Friday that pressed for an extension.

He also asks whether the UK government is working with NATO allies "to hold Kabul airport without US troops" should it become necessary in the event Washington pulls its armed forces personnel out before efforts are over.

Responding to Sir Keir, a government spokeswoman said: "We are doing all we can to get as many people out of Afghanistan as possible including British nationals, our Afghan staff and others.

"Since Sunday we have evacuated more than 5,000 people and these life-saving efforts continue.

"The prime minister has been clear a co-ordinated and concerted international effort is needed.

"We are in close contact with our Commonwealth and NATO partners to facilitate swift evacuations and have set out that there is no time limit to the resettlement programme."

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Direct challenge now to the US and allies - lets see who blinks first.
 
Direct challenge now to the US and allies - lets see who blinks first.

I’m not sure what they can do. They have no Air Force to stop the Americans bringing in reinforcements for fortifying the airport.
 
The Taliban are urging Afghan people to stay and rebuild their country but will not stand in the way of those who want to leave, if they have the correct documentation, a spokesman has told the BBC.

Suhail Shaheen said people could still leave on commercial flights after the deadline for foreign troops to leave by 31 August.

He said: "We are not putting hurdles in their way if they have a passport issued - they can go on commercial flights at any time. We want them to stay in the country but if they intend to go, they can... if they have the proper documents."

But he stressed there would be "consequences" if the foreign forces stayed beyond 31 August. He did not elaborate on what this would mean, saying only that the Taliban leadership would decide.

G7 members will meet virtually tomorrow to discuss whether to try to extend the 31 August deadline amid chaotic scenes at Kabul airport.
 
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Again the US will turn to Pakistan to talk to Taliban so the deadline can be extended. But no matter what, Pakistan will still be the bad guy in the eyes of West.
 
An ultimatum has been delivered. The Taliban want the American's out otherwise thing will get much worse for the invaders. The Taliban has nothing to lose, they have plenty off time on their hands as well. Only the invaders care about economy and rubbish like that. The Afghans as a people are used to going hungry for days. It is the American soldiers who start crying after being spanked around.
 
https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-afghanistan-taliban-military-int-idUSKBN28R1W0

How did the above happen then? What’s with this victim mentality among South Asians ?

The above did happen because Washington's point man Zalmay Khalilzad, headed to Pakistan in search of the breakthrough that has eluded him in Doha. Are you trying to say that Pakistan had no say in Doha?

And lol at the victim mentality, I am just telling you the facts sitting in a third country and watching things from all perspectives.
 
The US is being pressed to allow more time for evacuation from Taliban-controlled Afghanistan as the deadline for its withdrawal nears.

Under an agreement with the Taliban, the US must leave by 31 August.

But France, the UK and Germany all raised the possibility of allowing more time ahead of a summit on Tuesday.

US President Joe Biden is set to decide within the next 24 hours whether to extend the timeline for withdrawal, an official told Reuters news agency.

However the Taliban have told the BBC that any extension would violate the agreed deal and warned of consequences if forces remained.

Tens of thousands of people have been evacuated from the Afghan capital Kabul, but others seeking to flee remain crammed in or near the city's airport, which is guarded by US forces and their allies.

Many of the people fleeing, particularly those who worked with foreign forces, live in fear of reprisals from a group that imposed a harsh version of Islamic law when in power from 1996 to 2001.

France's Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian told reporters in the UAE: "We are concerned about the deadline set by the United States on August 31. Additional time is needed to complete ongoing operations."

Germany's Foreign Minister Heiko Maas said he had discussed keeping Kabul airport open beyond the deadline with Nato allies and the Taliban.

On Tuesday, UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson is expected to push the US for an extension during the virtual summit with other G7 leaders. Defence Secretary Ben Wallace said the prime minister was "going to try and raise the prospect of seeing if the United States will extend" its withdrawal.

The UK has said that any foreign military presence at Kabul airport cannot continue without US troops.

Military advisers have told the White House that a decision needs to be made on Tuesday in order to allow for the troops along with their equipment and weapons to leave in time for the deadline, CNN reports.

A defence official told the network that if Mr Biden agreed on withdrawing in time for the deadline, there would be "a few more" days of evacuating people before the drawdown of troops began, possibly at the end of this week. Currently 5,800 troops are on the ground.

According to the White House, about 10,900 people were evacuated from Kabul between 11:30 and 23:30 local time (07:00 - 19:00 GMT) on Monday.

The US has evacuated, and facilitated the evacuation of, approximately 48,000 people since an intense airlift started on 14 August, the White House said.

Images from Washington's Dulles Airport shows Afghans arriving in the country.

The Taliban have tried to paint a conciliatory picture for those Afghans who stay, asking them to help rebuild the country. Taliban spokesman Suhail Shaheen told the BBC people with passports would still be able to leave on commercial flights after the deadline.

He said: "We want them to stay in the country but if they intend to go, they can."

The United Nations human rights council is set to meet in an emergency session on Tuesday to discuss Afghanistan. It comes amid warnings from aid agencies about the deepening humanitarian crisis in the country and concerns over human rights, in particular, the rights of women.

The Taliban say they will respect the rights of women and girls but there are already reports of detentions and executions. Human rights groups say the UN must create an international, independent body to investigate what is happening.

Tuesday's emergency human rights council session could do this - but the draft resolution, submitted by Pakistan does not go that far, the BBC's Imogen Foulkes says.

The resolution asks the UN human rights chief to keep an eye on things, and report back in December.

The airlift began as the Taliban moved into Kabul following a lightning campaign that saw them take over almost all of the country in the wake of the US decision to withdraw forces.

The sole remaining area holding out appears to be the Panjshir region north-east of Kabul, a stronghold of anti-Taliban opponents who say thousands of people are ready to carry on the fight.

The Taliban were ousted by US and allied troops following al-Qaeda's 11 September 2001 attacks. A 20-year conflict ensued.

BBC
 
The US should get its citizens out and leave

They have deliberately created this mess at kabul airport using excuse of human rights and women's rights , what is this absurd plan to ship all Afghans out of Afghanistan.
Most of the crowd are just opportunists and economic migrants wanting to go to the west to work In a pizza shop or drive an uber jobs they could easily do in Afghanistan and pakistan selling samosas or driving toyota vans as transporters.
 
Considering taliban has given a blanket amnesty and not even harmed warlords it hated
Why does the common man have anything to fear.

Since most namak harams have pakistan Id cards and slip into pakistan willy nilly , they are in no real danger , they can easily find work in pakistan as daily labourers like most afghanis do working in building trades , mining , transport , selling products from carts , there is no danger in pakistan no one is going to check their beard length in pakistan or check if they've prayed 5 times a day .
 
The US should get its citizens out and leave

They have deliberately created this mess at kabul airport using excuse of human rights and women's rights , what is this absurd plan to ship all Afghans out of Afghanistan.
Most of the crowd are just opportunists and economic migrants wanting to go to the west to work In a pizza shop or drive an uber jobs they could easily do in Afghanistan and pakistan selling samosas or driving toyota vans as transporters.

This whole mess is nothing but a face-saving marketing campaign.

No one is taking responsibility for people who are dying outside of the airport.
 
CIA chief held secret meeting with Taliban in Kabul: report

Meeting likely revolved around any delay in deadline for US to finish evacuations at Kabul airport

WASHINGTON:
US Central Intelligence Agency chief William Burns held a secret meeting in Kabul with Taliban co-founder Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, the Washington Post reported Tuesday.

The Monday meeting, which if confirmed will have been the highest-level encounter between the militant group and the Biden administration since the Taliban's return to power, came as efforts to evacuate thousands of people from Taliban-controlled Afghanistan became increasingly urgent.

Burns is one of US President Joe Biden's most experienced diplomats; while Baradar, who headed the Taliban's political office in Qatar, is one of the top leaders in the regime that has taken power in Kabul.

A spokesperson for the CIA would not confirm the meeting to AFP, saying that the agency "never discusses the director's travels."

The Washington Post, which cited anonymous US sources for the meeting, did not the content of the discussions between the Taliban co-founder and the CIA boss.

But it said it was likely they revolved around any delay in the deadline for the United States to finish evacuations at the airport of the Afghan capital, where thousands of Afghans, terrified by the return of the Taliban, are still massed with the hope of fleeing the country.

Biden has set an August 31 deadline to finish the chaotic airlift organised by thousands of temporarily deployed US and UK troops, but has left the door open to an extension if needed.

But a spokesman for the Taliban warned Monday the militant group would not agree to any extension, calling the issue a "red line", with any delay viewed as "extending occupation".

"If the US or UK were to seek additional time to continue evacuations -- the answer is no. Or there would be consequences," Taliban spokesman Suhail Shaheen told Sky News.

The newspaper said the meeting took place on Monday.

A virtual G7 summit is scheduled to review the evacuations on Tuesday.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2316951/cia-chief-held-secret-meeting-with-taliban-in-kabul-report
 
Wonder what the consequences will be? Probably killing innocent Afghans. Let’s see them try to harm a US soldier…
 
Well the consequences of the US war is over 360000 dead and its possibly more .

The usa has killed more afghan civilians than the taliban .

As for the Afghan forces they've also suffered 70000+ dead

Taliban themselves have lost over 50000 possibly more

So let's not paint this war as some rosy picture it has come at a massive loss of life for all parties . Never mind the number of wounded soldiers and civilians suffering horrific life changing injuries .

The afghan forces were routinely suffering 100s dead a week no wonder the US had to pull the plug because in turn the afghan army and militias started indiscimetly killing civilians as revenge hence why the corrupt ghani government quickly lost support across the country even karzai turned against them because of the civilian losses.

We can now celebrate at least there's no mass killings and bombings going on and hope the future is better for the afghans and they can move this country out of this war. Its been a bloody war that's touched every afghan in a bad way .

This war also killed about 70000 in pakistan our country also is badly hurt.
 
The US should get its citizens out and leave

They have deliberately created this mess at kabul airport using excuse of human rights and women's rights , what is this absurd plan to ship all Afghans out of Afghanistan.
Most of the crowd are just opportunists and economic migrants wanting to go to the west to work In a pizza shop or drive an uber jobs they could easily do in Afghanistan and pakistan selling samosas or driving toyota vans as transporters.

Doing a job in Pakistan or Afghanistan and doing the same job in the west. I don't know but one of the two is a more lucrative prospect.
 
According to reports USA are getting their military personnel out as well now!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: President Biden decides to stick with the August 31 deadline for withdrawing troops from Afghanistan but asks for contingency plans <a href="https://t.co/ySycw7uTOV">https://t.co/ySycw7uTOV</a></p>— CNN Politics (@CNNPolitics) <a href="https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1430192708019179523?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 24, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: The U.S. military has started withdrawing from Afghanistan reducing troop presence: U.S. officials</p>— Lucas Tomlinson (@LucasFoxNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/LucasFoxNews/status/1430242728990973953?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 24, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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