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Back in the days when Australia were an invincible side, ICC used to organize 'Rest of the World' matches against them.

India at present is an ATG test team at home having only lost 2 tests in last 10 years. It seems like no cricket team is good enough to visit India and beat them in these conditions.

To make things interesting and more competitive, ICC need to organize a 3 test series between India and Rest of the world.

Rest of the world team:
David Warner
Devon Conway
Joe Root
Babar Azam
Steve Smith
Ben Stokes (c)
Jonny Bairstow (wk)
Mehedy Hassan
Pat Cummins
Nathan Lyon
Shaheen Afridi

I think the above team is good enough to give some competition to mighty India in India.
 
Against Ash/Jaddu/Axar most will struggle. Apart from Smith/Root two guys i can think of that have done okay here are Dinesh Chandimal and Mushfiqur Rahim.
 
Rajdeep said:
Rest of the world team:
David Warner
Devon Conway
Joe Root
Babar Azam
Steve Smith
Ben Stokes (c)
Jonny Bairstow (wk)
Mehedy Hassan
Pat Cummins
Nathan Lyon
Shaheen Afridi

I think the above team is good enough to give some competition to mighty India in India.
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Even if Pakistani players were allowed to play i'd take Williamson over Babar and Rabada over Shaheen.

Pakistan is only half decent in t20 thanks to a handful of consistent players. We have no business in tests.
 
Rajdeep said:
Back in the days when Australia were an invincible side, ICC used to organize 'Rest of the World' matches against them.

India at present is an ATG test team at home having only lost 2 tests in last 10 years. It seems like no cricket team is good enough to visit India and beat them in these conditions.

To make things interesting and more competitive, ICC need to organize a 3 test series between India and Rest of the world.

Rest of the world team:
David Warner
Devon Conway
Joe Root
Babar Azam
Steve Smith
Ben Stokes (c)
Jonny Bairstow (wk)
Mehedy Hassan
Pat Cummins
Nathan Lyon
Shaheen Afridi

I think the above team is good enough to give some competition to mighty India in India.
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Nah not really, this team above would get comprehensively beaten in India.
 
you can assemble any team and they'll still struggle vs this indian spin attack in india.
not many openers have done well but you can't have warner to open unless he proves wrong in the remainder of this series. have someone like latham.
stokes vs shakib vs holder can be discussed based on the pitch.
 
hitthestump said:
Even if Pakistani players were allowed to play i'd take Williamson over Babar and Rabada over Shaheen.

Pakistan is only half decent in t20 thanks to a handful of consistent players. We have no business in tests.
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williamson is not good in india, better to try babar.
rabada is very poor in india, better to try left arm shaheen.
 
Only team that can beat this Indian side in India in a full test series is below:

Matty Hayden,
Justin Langer,
Damien Martyn,
Michael Clarke,
Darren Lehman,
Adam Gilchrist,
Glen McGrath,
Shane Warne,
Jason Gillespie,
Brett Lee,
Mitchell Johnson
 
Let me give you a team that will out bat this side against same attack

Mayank Agarwal
Yasasvi Jaiswal
Abimanyu Eswaran
Sarfraz Khan
Patidar
Prithvi shaw
RYan Parag
Saurabh
Sams Mulani
Unadkat
Umesh
 
replace Patidar with samson or Kishan for keeper. You get a side that will go toe to toe with main team.
 
I don't think the Pakistani players would be welcome would they?
 
Romali_rotti said:
Only team that can beat this Indian side in India in a full test series is below:

Matty Hayden,
Justin Langer,
Damien Martyn,
Michael Clarke,
Darren Lehman,
Adam Gilchrist,
Glen McGrath,
Shane Warne,
Jason Gillespie,
Brett Lee,
Mitchell Johnson
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Cough… Cook, Compton, Trott, Bell, Pietersen, Root, Prior, Swann, Brendan, Panesar, Anderson… cough.
 
Latham
Karunaratne
Root
Smith
Babar
Shakib/ Stokes
Chandimal ( Wk)
Harmer
Anderson
Shaheen
Mehndi Hasan miraz
This is world eleven I want to see to play against India
 
Rajdeep said:
Back in the days when Australia were an invincible side, ICC used to organize 'Rest of the World' matches against them.

India at present is an ATG test team at home having only lost 2 tests in last 10 years. It seems like no cricket team is good enough to visit India and beat them in these conditions.

To make things interesting and more competitive, ICC need to organize a 3 test series between India and Rest of the world.

Rest of the world team:
David Warner
Devon Conway
Joe Root
Babar Azam
Steve Smith
Ben Stokes (c)
Jonny Bairstow (wk)
Mehedy Hassan
Pat Cummins
Nathan Lyon
Shaheen Afridi

I think the above team is good enough to give some competition to mighty India in India.
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How does Warner feature in a team that's supposed to topple the mighty Indians. Brathwaite,Tamim, Shafiq,Imam, Karunaratne literally anyone of these will do far better than this walking wicket.
Not quite certain about Lyon also. He seems to be in decline & even at his prime was never that good in subcontinent to begin with. For a guy who has bagged 400, his average & strike rate is really pathetic. He has been outbowled by a debutant. I would rather pick up that debutant or Azaz Patel over him. Infact I would consider Sakib as you already have an off spinner. With Sakib you have that extra cushion with bat & God knows that is required against these raging spinners.
Rest of the team is ok & more /less the best players of this era. But still they wouldn't do much, at best 3-1 & that's a shame. Because this is not a genuine great Indian side. Just a well balanced bowling attack, couple of great spinning allrounders who are quite possibly the greatest HTB in history & ofcourse a captain who's a monster in home. They are carrying a couple of over the hill "legendary" batsmen who are also pathetic in the field. A wk who will most certainly struggle against genuine pace & a t20 batsman who is supposed to be the ex factor.
Just goes to show you how much the quality of test cricket has fallen that this team is setting records after records. Compare this team with the ones Sourav, Dravid & MSD(07-11) led. Just see the gulf of difference in quality of players.
 
Can't think of a single opener who is active now who has done well in India. The best is Layham avg 30. It's how good difficult India has become to tour.
 
Sir Alex said:
Can't think of a single opener who is active now who has done well in India. The best is Layham avg 30. It's how good difficult India has become to tour.
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Umesh is a tough proposition with reversing ball. Possibly even unadkat can do well here. Bumrah is there. Sometime back Umesh took a 10fer here.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Umesh is a tough proposition with reversing ball. Possibly even unadkat can do well here. Bumrah is there. Sometime back Umesh took a 10fer here.
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Yes and in the 2nd innings, Ashwin and or Jadeja opens bowling. It's like the perfect storm for touring openers since Virat took over and no wonder the stats are so poor. Basically a place where openers come to die.
 
Zaz said:
Maybe Because they are pakistani and the hindutva indian govt is hell bent on sidelining pakistan and pakistani cricketers
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He knows why.

He is just trying to pretend it is a political problem rather than an obvious bigotry towards Pakistani's (and Muslims) in general.

Don't fall for their tricks. They will never be brave enough to admit their true agenda and will concede small positions here and there to try and hide it.
 
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I wonder how would the Aussie side of 04 that won in India would do against the current India? India would still be favourites to win but damn it would be so entertaining to see how Hayden, Langer, Katich(Pointing was injured), Martyn, Lehmaan, Clark and Gilchrist would bat against Jadeja and Ashwin. I also think Hayden, Clark, Martyn and Gilchrist will easily walk into the current lineup.
 
Saj said:
There are a lot of people in India who would not welcome them - I don't think it's worth the risk for them. Not that such a match would occur of course.
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I don't think its a personal one to one problem. Its a political issue.

The concept was trialled in 2005. Johnnie Walker world series. Didn't work.

But it should be tried again.
 
hitthestump said:
He knows why.

He is just trying to pretend it is a political problem rather than an obvious bigotry towards Pakistani's (and Muslims) in general.

Don't fall for their tricks. They will never be brave enough to admit their true agenda and will concede small positions here and there to try and hide it.
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malarkey. always trying to include all muslims in ind-pak discussions, and not the first time or first poster i've seen.
 
Misbah younis Hafeez even the dreadful Shafiq & safraz would have put ashwin & co into early retirements had they played in 2012/13.
 
Beating India in India is probably the most difficult challenge in cricket from some decades.
Team needs some quality spinners, great batters who can handle spin, pacers with a lot of patience and a clever captain.

Openers :-
Tom Latham
Babar Azam
Steve Smith
Joe Root
Ben Stokes (captain)
Mushfiquer Rahim
Dinesh Chandimal (w)
Shakib Al Hasan
Pat Cummins
Nathan Lyon
James Anderson

Only this team can give some fight to India in India.
 
Devadwal said:
Latham
Karunaratne
Root
Smith
Babar
Shakib/ Stokes
Chandimal ( Wk)
Harmer
Anderson
Shaheen
Mehndi Hasan miraz
This is world eleven I want to see to play against India
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Far better lineup than OP.

I'd have:

Latham
Karunaratne
Labushane -- far better than Babar vs spin
Root
Smith
Shakib
Sarfraz (Wk) -- brilliant vs spin
Santner
Mehndi Hasan Miraz
Wood -- he was phenomenal in Pakistan
Shaheen

Saj said:
There are a lot of people in India who would not welcome them - I don't think it's worth the risk for them. Not that such a match would occur of course.
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Dual nationals like Imran Tahir/Azhar Mehmood have had no issues.

Don't think anyone will create an issue unless there's is tip off from political circles, which we won't expect for a world xi match.

For such a match, you just need BCCI to agree. They'll find a way with ICC & others.

More feasible & logical option would be to hold the world xi match vs newly crowned champion of WTC in July just days after they win it in the same city
 
India vs Rest of World? Why?

It should be WTC champion vs ROW. Whoever wins the WTC should get to face ROW.
 
cricketjoshila said:
I don't think its a personal one to one problem. Its a political issue.

The concept was trialled in 2005. Johnnie Walker world series. Didn't work.

But it should be tried again.
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the problem with jhonnie walker series is the selection of world 11.the team picked was best players of the time but they were not best against aussies. they should have been selected based on their performances against aussies in australia. eg laxman
 
I would play this XI for this hypothetical match:

Babar
Root
Williamson
Bairstow
Stokes (c)
Butler (wk)
Shakib
Rashid Khan
Lyon
Archer
Shaheen.
 
jaisan said:
the problem with jhonnie walker series is the selection of world 11.the team picked was best players of the time but they were not best against aussies. they should have been selected based on their performances against aussies in australia. eg laxman
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One of the biggest disadvantage is gelling. You cannot randomly assemble a side and put them up against well oiled unit who know their roles clearly. A great team is always going to be better than collection of great players.
 
ROW XI :

Dimuth Karunaratne
Tom Latham
Joe Root
Steve Smith
Younis Khan
Shakib
Foakes(wkt)
Rashid/ Mehendy Hasan
Lyon
Shaheen
Archer/Wood/Cummins
 
Such a match won't happen, but if I were to choose a side, I'd have gone with this, no way Warner or Lyon could be in there.

Dimuth Karunaratne
Tom Latham
Joe Root
Babar Azam
Steve Smith
Kane Williamson
Shakib al Hasan
Mehidy Hasan
Mitchell Starc
Mark Wood
Abrar Ahmed
 
Kraig braithwate
Imam ul Haq
Joe root
Babar Azaam
Steve Smith(c)
Kane Williamson
Jhony bairstow(wk)
Pat Cummins
Mahesh theekshna
Mehedy hasan
Shaheen afridi.
 
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