That over by Sarfaraz Ahmed!

[osee_bhai]

Phew, I'm still in shock from what I saw in the 16th over of the Pakistani innings. Perhaps I have ultra-low expectations from our batting unit, but when was the last time one of our bats took a bowler to the cleaners so early in the innings? It was especially pleasing to see him target the 5th bowler after negotiating with the 3 quicks.

That over completely flipped the match's momentum, and our RR was suddenly healthy and innings was kicking on. The worrying part for each shot was that midwicket was at the fence, but he backed himself to go over and he kept clearing it!

For me, this was one of the most exciting isolated moments of Pakistan cricket in the past few years, on par with Wahab's 2 in 2 at Mohali. It was so unexpected, yet absolutely thrilling from a lad playing his first match this tourney.

And of course, video:

 

[TNA]

inb4 it was JP Duminy and 50m boundaries

 

[Mamoon]

A thread because a batsman who is renowned for his prowess against spin scored 21 runs of a part-timer.

I wonder what will happen to PakPassion if we manage to score 400 one day or a batsman of ours gets a 200. This place will crash beyond repair.

Please get a grip on things and raise the bar.

What next? A thread because Pakistan scored 250?

OR

A thread because a batsmen of ours scored a 50?

Embarrassing stuff and very poor mentality.

 

[Cricfan4eva]

A thread because a batsman who is renowned for his prowess against spin scored 21 runs of a part-timer.

I wonder what will happen to PakPassion if we manage to score 400 one day or a batsman of ours gets a 200. This place will crash beyond repair.

Please get a grip on things and raise the bar.

What next? A thread because Pakistan scored 250?

OR

A thread because a batsmen of ours scored a 50?

Embarrassing stuff and very poor mentality.

You need to relax a bit Pak won, what is the harm in rejoicing a bit or letting others. You'll have time for wrist-slitting once (and if) Pak are knocked out of the tournament anyway.

 

[osee_bhai]

A thread because a batsman who is renowned for his prowess against spin scored 21 runs of a part-timer.

I wonder what will happen to PakPassion if we manage to score 400 one day or a batsman of ours gets a 200. This place will crash beyond repair.

Please get a grip on things and raise the bar.

What next? A thread because Pakistan scored 250?

OR

A thread because a batsmen of ours scored a 50?

Embarrassing stuff and very poor mentality.

Oh please, can you put a lid on that arrogance?

For me, it was entirely unexpected and especially exciting, and I want to see who shares that excitement. When was the last time we took 21 off an over in overs 10-30? It really doesn't happen, especially for us.

 

[Mamoon]

Nothing wrong with rejoicing, but only in Pakistan will a thread be created for a batsman hitting a part-timer for 21 runs in an over.

 

[osee_bhai]

Nothing wrong with rejoicing, but only in Pakistan will a thread be created for a batsman hitting a part-timer for 21 runs in an over.

You are completely missing the point once again - instead of being a snob and spending your life commentating on everything, you don't have to write in a thread.

 

[Mamoon]

And what is the point that I'm missing?

You can't get over the fact that a Pakistani batsman took a part-timer to the cleaners?

 

[osee_bhai]

inb4 it was JP Duminy and 50m boundaries

It was definitely a small boundary, but midwicket was the longest fence, all of his shots were 70m+

 

[TNA]

You need to relax a bit Pak won, what is the harm in rejoicing a bit or letting others. You'll have time for wrist-slitting once (and if) Pak are knocked out of the tournament anyway.

I'm sure if his star Maqsood hit a 30 run over he would be the first to create the thread about him. He has certain biases and anger for some players.

 

[TNA]

It was definitely a small boundary, but midwicket was the longest fence, all of his shots were 70m+

I know.

But some poster will still do absolutely everything to belittle his innings since he made it against spinners, small boundaries, had a big bat etc.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

A thread because a batsman who is renowned for his prowess against spin scored 21 runs of a part-timer.

I wonder what will happen to PakPassion if we manage to score 400 one day or a batsman of ours gets a 200. This place will crash beyond repair.

Please get a grip on things and raise the bar.

What next? A thread because Pakistan scored 250?

OR

A thread because a batsmen of ours scored a 50?

Embarrassing stuff and very poor mentality.

A bit OTT mate.

Those were 3 AMAZING shots.

Loved them.

Enjoy the knocks bro.

Atleast for now.

 

[Mamoon]

Of course it was enjoyable, but I find the thought-process here disturbing.

I mean a thread for this? Right up there with a thread for Sarfraz's regulation catch.

Our standards are rock-bottom, and then we get annoyed at the idea that we are slowly becoming minnows of cricket.

 

[mudassir84]

So, as per mamoon, we should be gloomy and sad all the time. What is the point of getting excited over a good performance or a win.

 

[osee_bhai]

Of course it was enjoyable, but I find the thought-process here disturbing.

I mean a thread for this? Right up there with a thread for Sarfraz's regulation catch.

Our standards are rock-bottom, and then we get annoyed at the idea that we are slowly becoming minnows of cricket.

You absolute bell-end.

I'm commentating on the excitement and pleasure of watching this over alone, not the greatness of scoring 21 in an over. When was the last time we took any bowler, part time or full, for 21 in the middle innings? It was just great to watch and unexpected, baas.

 

[No_Username]

Of course it was enjoyable, but I find the thought-process here disturbing.

I mean a thread for this? Right up there with a thread for Sarfraz's regulation catch.

Our standards are rock-bottom, and then we get annoyed at the idea that we are slowly becoming minnows of cricket.

If you stop being negative and actually read the OP, he states that he has really low expectations from Pakistani batting and hence made the over special.

 

[Mamoon]

Yes, and it deserves a thread.

If you find three sixes of a part-timer so enjoyable and pleasurable, then I wonder if you have ever seen Pakistan play good cricket.

 

[Mamoon]

If you stop being negative and actually read the OP, he states that he has really low expectations from Pakistani batting and hence made the over special.

I did, and its tragic that people are now celebrating 21 runs of a part-timer.

Really depressing to see.

 

[dirk diggler]

You absolute bell-end.

I'm commentating on the excitement and pleasure of watching this over alone, not the greatness of scoring 21 in an over. When was the last time we took any bowler, part time or full, for 21 in the middle innings? It was just great to watch and unexpected, baas.

Nice one mate , I concur ��

 

[khurramjamil]

A thread because a batsman who is renowned for his prowess against spin scored 21 runs of a part-timer.

I wonder what will happen to PakPassion if we manage to score 400 one day or a batsman of ours gets a 200. This place will crash beyond repair.

Please get a grip on things and raise the bar.

What next? A thread because Pakistan scored 250?

OR

A thread because a batsmen of ours scored a 50?

Embarrassing stuff and very poor mentality.

If you don't like it don't comment on it, read the next thread.. if you don't like PP then move on but please don't try to take our moments of joy which we are having after a long time.

 

[Thivagar]

I did, and its tragic that people are now celebrating 21 runs of a part-timer.

Really depressing to see.

You are living in a fantasy world, lower your expectations. Pakistan is not doing well and such thread during times like this are expected. Part time off spinner with no variations other than a javelin throwing fastball ? Yes Do you need to take a chill pill and reflect on life ? Yes

 

[emranabbas]

Good play

 

[slice]

Yes, and it deserves a thread.

If you find three sixes of a part-timer so enjoyable and pleasurable, then I wonder if you have ever seen Pakistan play good cricket.

You need to understand that he simply wanted to share the experience of that over-nothing more.For that he had to start a thread otherwise his comment would just have got buried somewhere and hardly anyone would have noticed it.
And today must be the most depressing day of your life because Pakistan won against a full member team.Your previous depressing day was against Zimbabwe,am I right ?

 

[Mamoon]

Yes, I'm sad we won.

 

[Syed1]

Must be tough being Mamoon.. all his predictions are falling flat on his face, but he has to show a strong face hence is acting like a cry baby.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

One of the rare occasions when I completely disagree with Mamoon ji.

OP clearly says

For me, this was one of the most exciting isolated moments of Pakistan cricket in the past few years, on par with Wahab's 2 in 2 at Mohali. It was so unexpected, yet absolutely thrilling from a lad playing his first match this tourney.

Mamoon is being unnecessarily negative about this. Yes, we get your point but the other party is also saying "we have been so bad that we want to enjoy this moment of glory even though its not that big a deal."

 

[Pete Rose]

A thread because a batsman who is renowned for his prowess against spin scored 21 runs of a part-timer.

I wonder what will happen to PakPassion if we manage to score 400 one day or a batsman of ours gets a 200. This place will crash beyond repair.

Please get a grip on things and raise the bar.

What next? A thread because Pakistan scored 250?

OR

A thread because a batsmen of ours scored a 50?

Embarrassing stuff and very poor mentality.

I suspect some vanity at play.
That Pakistan are punching above their weight is clear to everyone and it will show up a match or two down the line.
In the meanwhile humility is the way to go.
Irfan is quite incisive contrary to absolute assertions that he will not do much and that Sarfaraz has come good as opener.
Doubling down to remain authentic can be misconstrued as being embittered, especially when dealing in easy predictions of doom and gloom.

 

[Syed1]

One of the rare occasions when I completely disagree with Mamoon ji.

OP clearly says



Mamoon is being unnecessarily negative about this. Yes, we get your point but the other party is also saying "we have been so bad that we want to enjoy this moment of glory even though its not that big a deal."

PP's resident devil's advocate has to live up to his reputation. Only Mamoon can be despondent after a close fought victory against SA..

 

[msaaim89]

Good attack by Sarfraz, you have to destroy part timers. Force teams to play 5 genuine bowlers.

 

[Mamoon]

I suspect some vanity at play.
That Pakistan are punching above their weight is clear to everyone and it will show up a match or two down the line.
In the meanwhile humility is the way to go.
Irfan is quite incisive contrary to absolute assertions that he will not do much and that Sarfaraz has come good as opener.
Doubling down to remain authentic can be misconstrued as being embittered, especially when dealing in easy predictions of doom and gloom.

Must be watching a different Irfan then.

Was manhandled in his first spell and was going at 6 an over, almost costing us the game before Wahab and Rahat jolted them and he took advantage of that.

As far as Sarfraz is concerned, he must be held accountable for the way he threw his wicket away. No better than the likes of Umar and Maqsood when it comes to showing composure and awareness, but instead he is being hailed as a hero for the 49 runs he scored.

I'm sure there has been no accountability and questioning over why he did what he did, and showed utmost selfishness to get to his milestone so that he could celebrate it like a double hundred. All of this means that he will keep doing the same thing over and over again.

I don't get it.

 

[Pete Rose]

Must be watching a different Irfan then.

Was manhandled in his first spell and was going at 6 an over, almost costing us the game before Wahab and Rahat jolted them and he took advantage of that.

As far as Sarfraz is concerned, he must be held accountable for the way he threw his wicket away. No better than the likes of Umar and Maqsood when it comes to showing composure and awareness, but instead he is being hailed as a hero for the 49 runs he scored.

I'm sure there has been no accountability and questioning over why he did what he did, and showed utmost selfishness to get to his milestone so that he could celebrate it like a double hundred. All of this means that he will keep doing the same thing over and over again.

I don't get it.

What's there to get, in the long run we are all dead so that reckoning or accountability seems to be fundamentalist way of looking at things.
The long run is paved by what happens in the days leading up to the long run. Pakistan had a good day. Doesn't matter what happened to irfan upfront what matters is how he ended the day. as for Sarfaraz he seized the day, as much as he could.
Oh and in he long run, Asad Shafiq will come good in odis; I have my indulgences as well.

 

[Mamoon]

What's there to get, in the long run we are all dead so that reckoning or accountability seems to be fundamentalist way of looking at things.
The long run is paved by what happens in the days leading up to the long run. Pakistan had a good day. Doesn't matter what happened to irfan upfront what matters is how he ended the day. as for Sarfaraz he seized the day, as much as he could.
Oh and in he long run, Asad Shafiq will come good in odis; I have my indulgences as well.

Yes, and even I'm thrilled that we won, but there are ways of celebrating.

Embarrassing yourself isn't one.

These things prove that we maybe sore losers, but we are even less gracious when we succeed.

Only thing lacking today was signalling another golden era.

 

[Canistani Hero]

Must be watching a different Irfan then.

Was manhandled in his first spell and was going at 6 an over, almost costing us the game before Wahab and Rahat jolted them and he took advantage of that.

As far as Sarfraz is concerned, he must be held accountable for the way he threw his wicket away. No better than the likes of Umar and Maqsood when it comes to showing composure and awareness, but instead he is being hailed as a hero for the 49 runs he scored.

I'm sure there has been no accountability and questioning over why he did what he did, and showed utmost selfishness to get to his milestone so that he could celebrate it like a double hundred. All of this means that he will keep doing the same thing over and over again.

I don't get it.

Probably the one on PP who still found a way to criticize the young chap. What a sad individual

 

[Pete Rose]

Yes, and even I'm thrilled that we won, but there are ways of celebrating.

Embarrassing yourself isn't one.

These things prove that we maybe sore losers, but we are even less gracious when we succeed.

Only thing lacking today was signalling another golden era.

If we all had perspective this place would be to boring

 

[fahadshah]

Nothing wrong with rejoicing, but only in Pakistan will a thread be created for a batsman hitting a part-timer for 21 runs in an over.

A part timer who bowls regularly ! Unnecessary negativity from u as always !


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[Canistani Hero]

Hold Sarfaraz 'accountable' for taking some initiative in such a pressure game, giving us our best start at the top and just shatter his confidence so we can revert to the specialist opener Nasir Jamshed

 

[Yassar7khalil]

Completely embarrassing yourself mamoon. I been a member of pakpassion for 2 weeks now and all I see is your negativity. Whether it was a part time bowler or steyn it was show of intent which I didn't not expect from our batsman. So chill out! If you don't agree then don't comment it's that simple.

I remember you making a thread about maqsood being the next inzi after one game on a flat deck, but you have a problem with people who enjoyed that over, such a bloody hypocrite. So you my friend need to give it a rest, because you chat rubbish.

 

[Mamoon]

Hold Sarfaraz 'accountable' for taking some initiative in such a pressure game, giving us our best start at the top and just shatter his confidence so we can revert to the specialist opener Nasir Jamshed

No one said that. Anyone suggesting that Jamshed is a better option than Sarfraz needs therapy, but that doesn't mean that Sarfraz shouldn't be held accountable for the imbecile dismissal.

This is the attitude why our players get worse and worse, they overrate their performances just like the people do.

Sarfraz was okay with the bat, nothing more.

Good day with the gloves, but doesn't wash away past sins.

 

[Canistani Hero]

If we all had perspective this place would be to boring

Absolutely

Plus Mamoon just doesn't Pakistan chain of thought, we are built on impulse, we live on impulse..rational, reasoning are just not the Pakistani approach..anybody who understands Pakistan and has followed Pakistan cricket for a decade would know that

 

[Mamoon]

Completely embarrassing yourself mamoon. I been a member of pakpassion for 2 weeks now and all I see is your negativity. Whether it was a part time bowler or steyn it was show of intent which I didn't not expect from our batsman. So chill out! If you don't agree then don't comment it's that simple.

I remember you making a thread about maqsood being the next inzi after one game on a flat deck, but you have a problem with people who enjoyed that over, such a bloody hypocrite. So you my friend need to give it a rest, because you chat rubbish.

Nothing wrong with learning from past mistakes, gives you perspective.

What is stupid is to repeat the same thing over and over again whilst expecting different results.

History tells us that we shouldn't get ahead of ourselves, which is exactly what this thread is about.

 

[BlackThunder]

Sarfraz definitely has some bite in him and brings much needed urgency into to this brittle Pak batting lineup. His innings even though it was short gave a lot of confidence to your whole team.

 

[Mamoon]

Absolutely

Plus Mamoon just doesn't Pakistan chain of thought, we are built on impulse, we live on impulse..rational, reasoning are just not the Pakistani approach..anybody who understands Pakistan and has followed Pakistan cricket for a decade would know that

Which explains our mediocrity.

 

[osee_bhai]

Going back to topic, from cricinfo:

21 The runs scored by Pakistan in the 16th over of their innings, bowled by JP Duminy. It's equals the most runs they've scored in an over in the last five World Cups. They've had two other instances of 21 runs in an over in World Cup games during this period: against England off a Craig White over in 2003, and against Kenya in 2011 off a Jimmy Kamande over.

Both of those other overs were at the death, so - this was pretty fudging rare.

 

[Pete Rose]

Absolutely

Plus Mamoon just doesn't Pakistan chain of thought, we are built on impulse, we live on impulse..rational, reasoning are just not the Pakistani approach..anybody who understands Pakistan and has followed Pakistan cricket for a decade would know that

Hehe, I like it.
I will be the first to admit that's it's not the way to build a vision, but I love the expressions of the match experts once it's all done and dusted and we pull out a rabbit from a hat.

 

[osee_bhai]

Nothing wrong with learning from past mistakes, gives you perspective.

What is stupid is to repeat the same thing over and over again whilst expecting different results.

History tells us that we shouldn't get ahead of ourselves, which is exactly what this thread is about.

Once again, no one is getting ahead of themselves, I just thoroughly enjoyed the over. Please do not comment if you don't share that, there are plenty of other negative threads.

 

[Yassar7khalil]

Mamoon no one is getting ahead of themselves. The chap who started this thread said he enjoyed that . What's wrong with that?

 

[Mamoon]

Good for him. I apologize if I caused any inconvenience.

 

[Ali1984]

This mamoon has to be a total b*tch about everything. Every thread he has been bursting our bubble. If you are not happy with this Pak win then please remove yourself from
Pak passion you do not belong here. Even the neutrals are happy with this perfomance and are not nitpicking. We are passionate Pakistanis that support out team whether they struggle to beat a minnow or a top team. Go on moody Margaret take your miserableness elsewhere it doesn't belong here.


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[The intelligent Supporter]

Yes, and even I'm thrilled that we won, but there are ways of celebrating.

Embarrassing yourself isn't one.

These things prove that we maybe sore losers, but we are even less gracious when we succeed.

Only thing lacking today was signalling another golden era.

Absolutely spot on this time! These types of overs are daily matters for top 8 teams and the fact that we get a 20 run over after decades, says a lot about our quality.

And the most important thing is that this achievement is not enough t0 merit a thread of its own. Seriously, its emabrassing. Agree with Mamoon here.

 

[Mamoon]

Don't be surprised, the day where we create threads for individual fifties is just round the corner, and the way Umar and Sarfraz celebrate their half-centuries sums up everything.

 

[wasimjunior]

This mamoon has to be a total b*tch about everything. Every thread he has been bursting our bubble. If you are not happy with this Pak win then please remove yourself from
Pak passion you do not belong here. Even the neutrals are happy with this perfomance and are not nitpicking. We are passionate Pakistanis that support out team whether they struggle to beat a minnow or a top team. Go on moody Margaret take your miserableness elsewhere it doesn't belong here.


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Clear case of someone who gets bullied at school so acts like a big man on the internet.

some very solid points are disguised by over the top hatred for Pakistan.

 

[The intelligent Supporter]

Don't be surprised, the day where we create threads for individual fifties is just round the corner, and the way Moaqsood and Sarfraz celebrate their half-centuries sums up everything.

It actually hurts seeing that. Our standards have fallen so low, sadly. I see People like Kohli and Dhawan waving the bat at 100s and focusing on finishing the game but a 50 by our player completes his role in the match.

Celebrating sixes against Duminy is why we don't have a finisher. Rather we have players who bring us close, celebrate their 50s, throw it away and let us suffer.

 

[pakistani pride]

A thread because a batsman who is renowned for his prowess against spin scored 21 runs of a part-timer.

I wonder what will happen to PakPassion if we manage to score 400 one day or a batsman of ours gets a 200. This place will crash beyond repair.

Please get a grip on things and raise the bar.

What next? A thread because Pakistan scored 250?

OR

A thread because a batsmen of ours scored a 50?

Embarrassing stuff and very poor mentality.

According your great logic. We r minnows. So a minnow team bat smashing a saffer deserves a thread.

 

[Mamoon]

Clear case of someone who gets bullied at school so acts like a big man on the internet.

some very solid points are disguised by over the top hatred for Pakistan.

Very clear to you over the internet.

Why don't you audition to be Pakistan's Sherlock? The credentials are certainly there, albeit at the cost of regressing intelligent quotient.

 

[TNA]

Absolutely spot on this time! These types of overs are daily matters for top 8 teams and the fact that we get a 20 run over after decades, says a lot about our quality.

And the most important thing is that this achievement is not enough t0 merit a thread of its own. Seriously, its emabrassing. Agree with Mamoon here.

You and Mamoon have absolutely have all your comprehension skills

No one is saying what Sarfraz did was an achievement of gigantic proportions

What the OP is saying that its a wonderful feeling to dominate someone so ruthlessly in the middle overs. Its not about Sarfraz or a Part timer.

Our brand of cricket in the middle overs has been extremely defensive. We go kapoot or combust only in the last overs to make our lack of defensive mentality in the first and second half on the innings. Today we showed we can dominate early in the innings as we well in the middle. No need to go absolutely mad in the final overs.

It's a strategy we should rely on each game we play from now on. I absolutely have no idea what Mamoon is trying to moan about. Every thread about our win seems like an attack on him to be honest.

 

[TNA]

have lost*

 

[Mamoon]

It actually hurts seeing that. Our standards have fallen so low, sadly. I see People like Kohli and Dhawan waving the bat at 100s and focusing on finishing the game but a 50 by our player completes his role in the match.

Celebrating sixes against Duminy is why we don't have a finisher. Rather we have players who bring us close, celebrate their 50s, throw it away and let us suffer.

I meant Umar actually. Maqsood celebrates with dignity.

Celebrating 50s like 100s is one reason why we struggle to score big. A 50 is enough to cement your place for the next billion years.

 

[Yassar7khalil]

Mr intelligent supporter, guy said he enjoyed an over what's wrong with that and how's that embarrassing? You lot say how crap we are then why compare Pakistan with other teams?.

I don't get is why can't Pakistanis celebrate a victory? I don't see South African supporters moan about them making runs against minnows and not the big teams.

Some people say some fans on here have high hopes and are deluded. The question is who's deluded ? People like the op who just enjoyed an over or people like yourself who wants everything to be perfect and consistently score 20 runs an over with this batting lineup.

 

[Mamoon]

You and Mamoon have absolutely have all your comprehension skills

No one is saying what Sarfraz did was an achievement of gigantic proportions

What the OP is saying that its a wonderful feeling to dominate someone so ruthlessly in the middle overs. Its not about Sarfraz or a Part timer.

Our brand of cricket in the middle overs has been extremely defensive. We go kapoot or combust only in the last overs to make our lack of defensive mentality in the first and second half on the innings. Today we showed we can dominate early in the innings as we well in the middle. No need to go absolutely mad in the final overs.

It's a strategy we should rely on each game we play from now on. I absolutely have no idea what Mamoon is trying to moan about. Every thread about our win seems like an attack on him to be honest.

I find it depressing that our standards have fallen so much that we have resorted to creating threads about a player smacking 3 sixes of a part-time spinner.

Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[The intelligent Supporter]

You and Mamoon have absolutely have all your comprehension skills

No one is saying what Sarfraz did was an achievement of gigantic proportions

What the OP is saying that its a wonderful feeling to dominate someone so ruthlessly in the middle overs. Its not about Sarfraz or a Part timer.

Our brand of cricket in the middle overs has been extremely defensive. We go kapoot or combust only in the last overs to make our lack of defensive mentality in the first and second half on the innings. Today we showed we can dominate early in the innings as we well in the middle. No need to go absolutely mad in the final overs.

It's a strategy we should rely on each game we play from now on. I absolutely have no idea what Mamoon is trying to moan about. Every thread about our win seems like an attack on him to be honest.

I get your sentiment and i was really excited too after the win. But the part in bold is what I dont agree with. Hitting 20 against a part timer isnt dominating in middle overs by any standard. All I am saying is , we need to set bigger reasonable milestones for our players or else we will end up like Afganistan , where every Shinwari and Zadran hits a six, takes the applause and goes back to Pavillion. Need to celebrate somethig that is actually an achievement.

 

[osee_bhai]

I find it depressing that our standards have fallen so much that we have resorted to creating threads about a player smacking 3 sixes of a part-time spinner.

Nothing more, nothing less.

It was fun to watch god dammit.

It was also our highest scoring over in the last 5 world cups.

 

[TNA]

I find it depressing that our standards have fallen so much that we have resorted to creating threads about a player smacking 3 sixes of a part-time spinner.

Nothing more, nothing less.

No. You still haven't understood the purpose of the thread. It speaks more about our lack of team strategy than about those individual sixes. What Sarfraz showed today is that you can play attacking cricket early part of the innings and then carry on that momentum to good effect. Not create all the lost momentum in the last few overs like what we have been doing all along.

 

[pakistani pride]

It was fun to watch god dammit.

It was also our highest scoring over in the last 5 world cups.

Dont argue with a depressed individual.
He is one confused lad.

 

[The intelligent Supporter]

It was fun to watch god dammit.

It was also our highest scoring over in the last 5 world cups.

I loved that over as well. But please tell me one thing. Does it merit a thread? If we make a habbit of accelerating in early overs and playing real quick, then I can understand the purpose of the thread. We will back to 14-1 after 8 in next matches (I hope not). I know you are happy but making a thread over 1 over is a bit overreaction.

 

[TNA]

I get your sentiment and i was really excited too after the win. But the part in bold is what I dont agree with. Hitting 20 against a part timer isnt dominating in middle overs by any standard. All I am saying is , we need to set bigger reasonable milestones for our players or else we will end up like Afganistan , where every Shinwari and Zadran hits a six, takes the applause and goes back to Pavillion. Need to celebrate somethig that is actually an achievement.

Once again you are missing the point. Its not about hitting a part timer. If it was so easy then why wasn't Misbah and Younis playing like that all along especially Misbah?

It's all about our lack of team strategy. We have never been used to capitalizing those middle overs to good effect and have to always rely on someone like Afridi in the final overs to get our self out of the deep hole we created in the first place.

 

[The intelligent Supporter]

Once again you are missing the point. Its not about hitting a part timer. If it was so easy then why wasn't Misbah and Younis playing like that all along especially Misbah?

It's all about our lack of team strategy. We have never been used to capitalizing those middle overs to good effect and have to always rely on someone like Afridi in the final overs to get our self out of the deep hole we created in the first place.

I just hope, we keep playing positively in the next games as well.

 

[osee_bhai]

I loved that over as well. But please tell me one thing. Does it merit a thread? If we make a habbit of accelerating in early overs and playing real quick, then I can understand the purpose of the thread. We will back to 14-1 after 8 in next matches (I hope not). I know you are happy but making a thread over 1 over is a bit overreaction.

The point, once again as you've missed, is the excitement felt by that 1 over to me was on par with the most I've felt watching this Pakistan team. It was bewildering and rare.

If you don't want to discuss how genuinely exciting that over was, how you couldn't stop jumping up and down, or believe we were actually attacking a bowler successfully in the middle overs, by a batsmen who has been heavily criticized and playing his first game, or analyze how important that over was in the context of the innings, it's okay - you don't have to comment.

 

[The intelligent Supporter]

The point, once again as you've missed, is the excitement felt by that 1 over to me was on par with the most I've felt watching this Pakistan team. It was bewildering and rare.

If you don't want to discuss how genuinely exciting that over was, how you couldn't stop jumping up and down, or believe we were actually attacking a bowler successfully in the middle overs, by a batsmen who has been heavily criticized and playing his first game, or analyze how important that over was in the context of the innings, it's okay - you don't have to comment.

Agree with this part though..

 

[Mamoon]

No. You still haven't understood the purpose of the thread. It speaks more about our lack of team strategy than about those individual sixes. What Sarfraz showed today is that you can play attacking cricket early part of the innings and then carry on that momentum to good effect. Not create all the lost momentum in the last few overs like what we have been doing all along.

Yes, because scoring 49 runs = carrying on that momentum to good effect. It was an okay innings, but people are overrating it because of our standards, which is the whole point.

 

[iafzal]

Yes, and even I'm thrilled that we won, but there are ways of celebrating.

Embarrassing yourself isn't one.

These things prove that we maybe sore losers, but we are even less gracious when we succeed.

Only thing lacking today was signalling another golden era.

Well Mamoon if someone is embarrassing it is you. The guy made it clear it was refreshing to see how he went after the bowler so early in the innings. It was also quite brave he did being his first game and team mgmt not believing in it. Like many it was one of the great moment for me and it seems for many othr PPers.
To bad it d not meet your standards but that does not give you the right to act like a baby whose toys are taken away.

 

[TNA]

Yes, because scoring 49 runs = carrying on that momentum to good effect. It was an okay innings, but people are overrating it because of our standards, which is the whole point.

Jeez what are you babbling about. When did I ever talk Sarfraz innings exclusively ?

I was talking about how it had a positive impact on teams run rate + less reliance on too much late order hitting.

You need to get your head out of that 49 run innings of Sarfraz and think in terms of its effect on the overall team's strategy and planning.

Cricket is team sports. Why you can't grasp this is beyond me.

 

[UmarAkmals-fan]

what the hell is wrong with this Mamoon guy ..every thread i check i see him moaning about how poor pak r blah blah ..does this guy stay 24/7 on pakpassion or what ..he seems to never miss any thread ...guys plz just ignore him ..just don't feed the troll ..when ever he comments just don't respond ..let him moan and he will leave after a few comments ..every time i open a new thread and am abit excited to read what ppl think i see his boring pic with that old guy smoking pipe i loose all the interest because i know his moaning will go on an on lol

 

[Mamoon]

Jeez what are you babbling about. When did I ever talk Sarfraz innings exclusively ?

I was talking about how it had a positive impact on teams run rate + less reliance on too much late order hitting.

You need to get your head out of that 49 run innings of Sarfraz and think in terms of its effect on the overall team's strategy and planning.

Cricket is team sports. Why you can't grasp this is beyond me.

What I managed to grasp from today's innings was the he played a key role in triggering a collapse. The way he threw his start away was reminiscent of Umar and Maqsood, but they are chastised for it while PakPassion's darling Sarfraz is garnered with roses.

He is on the bring of becoming glorified slogging hack #3, which is why we don't need to overboard with praising him. The way he has been made a hero on tv in Pakistan at the moment and one is there to question how he keeps throwing his wicket away is quite sad to see. We shouldn't get carried away.

The fact that the brain bug has infected Sarfraz as well is a bigger issue to address than his 'positive' cameo today, that didn't help the team post a great total in the first place.

That's the idea - when you get a start, make it count, and he didn't which is why I find all this hoopla nonsensical.

The 'refreshing' approach is what we have been witnessing from Umar and Maqsood for a while now.

 

[Belawal2014]

Good for him. I apologize if I caused any inconvenience.

That seems to be the norm around here.

 

[Frank Underwood]

What I managed to grasp from today's innings was the he played a key role in triggering a collapse. The way he threw his start away was reminiscent of Umar and Maqsood, but they are chastised for it while PakPassion's darling Sarfraz is garnered with roses.

He is on the bring of becoming glorified slogging hack #3, which is why we don't need to overboard with praising him. The way he has been made a hero on tv in Pakistan at the moment and one is there to question how he keeps throwing his wicket away is quite sad to see. We shouldn't get carried away.

The fact that the brain bug has infected Sarfraz as well is a bigger issue to address than his 'positive' cameo today, that didn't help the team post a great total in the first place.

That's the idea - when you get a start, make it count, and he didn't which is why I find all this hoopla nonsensical.

The 'refreshing' approach is what we have been witnessing from Umar and Maqsood for a while now.

So let me get this straight. Sarfraz plays, one innings in this WC, where he threw his wicket away, whereas Umar throws his wicket away every other day and has 100+ matches under his belt, and all of a sudden we are associating the two together?

Well, that escalated quickly.

 

[cricketfanfirst]

The key thing here was intent to take bowlers on in the middle overs. He had a great match and the catch of Amla was splendid one.

 

[zeikz123]

What I managed to grasp from today's innings was the he played a key role in triggering a collapse. The way he threw his start away was reminiscent of Umar and Maqsood, but they are chastised for it while PakPassion's darling Sarfraz is garnered with roses.

He is on the bring of becoming glorified slogging hack #3, which is why we don't need to overboard with praising him. The way he has been made a hero on tv in Pakistan at the moment and one is there to question how he keeps throwing his wicket away is quite sad to see. We shouldn't get carried away.

The fact that the brain bug has infected Sarfraz as well is a bigger issue to address than his 'positive' cameo today, that didn't help the team post a great total in the first place.

That's the idea - when you get a start, make it count, and he didn't which is why I find all this hoopla nonsensical.

The 'refreshing' approach is what we have been witnessing from Umar and Maqsood for a while now.

ok ok.. everyone on pakpassion shall abide by grumpy mamoons rules... so next time someone gets happy and wants to share the happiness with other fans is it ok if the fan messages you and asks you your permission? or is that too much to ask. i am aware that you are just giving your opinion but please also get off that imaginary high horse you have, and let a fan be happy, and learn to keep those negative opinions bottled up, no reason to spread negativity and grumpiness.. you can sit alone and be unhappy and grumpy. yes pakistan was lucky, they won a game against a quality side, but so what something to cheer about for the fans, if the fans don't get to do that what is the reason to follow their side?

 

[Mamoon]

So let me get this straight. Sarfraz plays, one innings in this WC, where he threw his wicket away, whereas Umar throws his wicket away every other day and has 100+ matches under his belt, and all of a sudden we are associating the two together?

Well, that escalated quickly.

What escalated quickly is falling into the same trap again.

Been hearing for 6 years that Umar will learn, but he is still an idiot.

Maqsood keeps getting worse.

But no, Sarfraz will learn with time.

I have no reason to believe so, and since he's a Pakistani, there is everyone reason to believe that he'll regress with time, given our track-record with young batsmen.

 

[TNA]

What I managed to grasp from today's innings was the he played a key role in triggering a collapse. The way he threw his start away was reminiscent of Umar and Maqsood, but they are chastised for it while PakPassion's darling Sarfraz is garnered with roses.

He is on the bring of becoming glorified slogging hack #3, which is why we don't need to overboard with praising him. The way he has been made a hero on tv in Pakistan at the moment and one is there to question how he keeps throwing his wicket away is quite sad to see. We shouldn't get carried away.

The fact that the brain bug has infected Sarfraz as well is a bigger issue to address than his 'positive' cameo today, that didn't help the team post a great total in the first place.

That's the idea - when you get a start, make it count, and he didn't which is why I find all this hoopla nonsensical.

The 'refreshing' approach is what we have been witnessing from Umar and Maqsood for a while now.

Once again you need to go back and learn how the game of cricket is played. Granted Sarfraz made a mistake and ran hismelf out but the batting doesn't end there. Sarfraz already did a really good job after being sidelined for 4 matches and then the management made him open against the attack of likes of Steyn and Morkel. 49 is not bad. The piling of runs continues. It's a team effort. Umar should chip in with contribution and Maqsood should chip in with his contribution. Why should Sarfraz be solely accountable for the team's total? It's a collective effort. You can't play a one team army innings all the time.

 

[yeh cheez]

Sarfraz has traces of Miandad's hustling quality in him