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"The decision to go to IMF should be taken by a government with fresh mandate" : Mustafa Khokar PPP

Put aside the fact that he is part of PPP, do you agree with his remarks?


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The decision to go to IMF should be taken by a government with fresh mandate.</p>— Mustafa Nawaz Khokhar (@Mustafa_PPP) <a href="https://twitter.com/Mustafa_PPP/status/1530253381767667712?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 27, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Lets have a serious debate on this.

Less of emotional stuff and more facts please.
 
Imf is not gonna negotiate with caretaker govt either. Thus that means 4 months of economic crises if elections are to happen as care taker govt will stay for atleast 3 months.

Imf money is needed, after which only than could we talk about elections
 
Lets have a serious debate on this.

Less of emotional stuff and more facts please.

Facts. Pakistan's réservés on paper is $10 bn. But realistically if one takes out Saudi loan, swaps, repayments, etc, it is $1.5 bn. 4 weeks of imports. Pakistan has CAD of $1bn per month. So, it's effectively $12 bn deficit to fund over next one year.

Pakistan has to repay $18 bn loan next one year. Now only way to manage this situation is to rollover or delay repayment of existing loans. IMF loan of $10 bn. For that to happen, you have to remain in IMF program. For this to happen you have to accept IMF conditions, deregulate currency ( largely done by PTI govt ) and withdraw oil subsidies, increasing all finished good and electricity prices. And this political football every party has been playing. But now it's hit the wall.

So patient has a stroke and needs to be taken to hospital immediately. Is it important who takes him ? Patients recovery will not be immediate and he may even curse the one who puts him through bypass surgery. Political fight is about who should take the patient and face his wrath. There will a big bill to pay at the end. Humanity warrants you save the poor people and not worry about optics. Tough situation.
 
The Pakistan 5 Years CDS value is 505.92. This value reveals a 8.43% implied probability of default on all it's existing borrowings. The implications of this too hard to fathom. So politicians keep you engaged in a conflict, religion, external threat etc. Sri Lanka 101.

The only glimmer of hope is that export demand seems sustainable. But if global economy goes into a recession exports will be impacted. The other good part is that Sri Lanka has already happened. There are some useful lessons to learn.
 
IMF talks

Responding to another question, the Miftah said there had no discussion on privatisation in the recent talks with IMF.

"We are expecting a staff-level agreement with the IMF in June. Agreement is the real thing, after which money can be deposited at any time.

"IMF will give $3bn. We have requested them to extend the programme by a year and expand it by $2bn. I expect that they will agree." Once the agreement with the IMF was finalised, it would pave the way for receiving loans from other multilateral organisations, he added.

The country would have defaulted because of the reduction of petroleum prices by the previous government, he said, sharing that the subsidies were costing thrice the amount required for running of the entire civil government.

Ismail said Saudi Arabia was "willing to help us more" but he would share the details in July.

"We have lost political capital [because of the price hike] but the prime minister and [Defence Minister] Khawaja Asif explicitly said that if we have to choose between political capital and the state, we will choose to save the state."

Ismail had announced on Thursday that the federal government had decided to raise the prices of petroleum products by Rs30 per litre.

After the hike, the price of petrol is Rs179.86, diesel Rs174.15, kerosene oil Rs155.56 and light diesel Rs148.31 per litre.

The price hike came a day after the government and the IMF failed to reach an agreement on an economic bailout mainly because of the former's indecision on fuel and electricity subsidies and resultant next year's budget uncertainties.

A day earlier, Prime Minister Shehbaz, in his first address since taking office, said the government was taking tough decisions in view of national interest, and accused the previous government of putting Pakistan's economic and diplomatic standing on the line, simply to further their personal, political interests.

Saying that global oil prices were through the roof and that the fuel crisis was affecting everyone — from oil producing countries to the developed nations of the West, he claimed the previous government had announced a fuel and power subsidy for the sake of its own survival, the burden of which the national exchequer could not take.

"We took the decision because it was inevitable to avoid default," he said, adding that it was an important move in the bid to lift the country out of the economic crisis it currently faced.

DAWN
 
Facts. Pakistan's réservés on paper is $10 bn. But realistically if one takes out Saudi loan, swaps, repayments, etc, it is $1.5 bn. 4 weeks of imports. Pakistan has CAD of $1bn per month. So, it's effectively $12 bn deficit to fund over next one year.

Pakistan has to repay $18 bn loan next one year. Now only way to manage this situation is to rollover or delay repayment of existing loans. IMF loan of $10 bn. For that to happen, you have to remain in IMF program. For this to happen you have to accept IMF conditions, deregulate currency ( largely done by PTI govt ) and withdraw oil subsidies, increasing all finished good and electricity prices. And this political football every party has been playing. But now it's hit the wall.

So patient has a stroke and needs to be taken to hospital immediately. Is it important who takes him ? Patients recovery will not be immediate and he may even curse the one who puts him through bypass surgery. Political fight is about who should take the patient and face his wrath. There will a big bill to pay at the end. Humanity warrants you save the poor people and not worry about optics. Tough situation.

I can't say much about Pakistan's reserves because I don't know the details and type of agreements we have sighed for our loans but I can comment on your CAD estimate.

I think Pakistan having a CAD of $1 billion every month is unlikely if we continue to increase our exports. We can look at CAD figures from the last three months to get an idea. CAD was $0.5 in February 2022, $0.6 billion in April 2022, and $1 billion in March 2022 respectively. If we average those figures we get an average CAD of $0.7 billion, if we continue with that average we'll have a CAD of $8.4 billion over the year.

It's unlikely that fuel and commodity prices will remain as high as they are now throughout the year so the final CAD for 2022 is likely to be around $5-7 billion. This is just a guess on my part so it can be wrong.

The key to all of this is us consistently growing our exports at a high rate, although growing exports is unlikely under this government if we look at their track record of how they've handled our exports in the past.
 
I can't say much about Pakistan's reserves because I don't know the details and type of agreements we have sighed for our loans but I can comment on your CAD estimate.

I think Pakistan having a CAD of $1 billion every month is unlikely if we continue to increase our exports. We can look at CAD figures from the last three months to get an idea. CAD was $0.5 in February 2022, $0.6 billion in April 2022, and $1 billion in March 2022 respectively. If we average those figures we get an average CAD of $0.7 billion, if we continue with that average we'll have a CAD of $8.4 billion over the year.

It's unlikely that fuel and commodity prices will remain as high as they are now throughout the year so the final CAD for 2022 is likely to be around $5-7 billion. This is just a guess on my part so it can be wrong.

The key to all of this is us consistently growing our exports at a high rate, although growing exports is unlikely under this government if we look at their track record of how they've handled our exports in the past.

Exports are function of global business environnement. If we are heading for a global recession, which absolutely certain then, exports will be impact. Besides, Pak exports are based on govt incentives which are working on "elite capture". Some are getting 4% incentive on export for value added growth of 3-6%. So simply pushing up volume of exports wont work. Productive capacities have to come in pakistan
 
Exports are function of global business environnement. If we are heading for a global recession, which absolutely certain then, exports will be impact. Besides, Pak exports are based on govt incentives which are working on "elite capture". Some are getting 4% incentive on export for value added growth of 3-6%. So simply pushing up volume of exports wont work. Productive capacities have to come in pakistan

Pakistan's productive capacity has increased, at least as far as textiles are concerned.

https://www.geo.tv/latest/374497-5-billion-investment-for-textile-sector-in-pipeline-razak-dawood

“We have been informed that an investment of approximately $5 billion is in the pipeline under which 100 new textile units are expected to be established,” the adviser said.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1662021#:~:text=LAHORE%3A%20With%20the%20ongoing%20%243.5,the%20fiscal%20year%202021%2D22.

“The total investment and expansion plan for all sectors for FY22 is worth $4.5bn and includes $3.5bn for textile sector alone. Investments of $1.5bn have been made so far in the textile sector while the rest $2bn would be in place by June 30, 2022,” the Aptma chairman explained

LAHORE: With the ongoing $3.5 billion expansion plan for the textile industry, Pakistan’s textile exports are likely to increase by $6bn and cross the $20bn target projected for the fiscal year 2021-22.

The foundation and investment is clearly there for expansion.

Then you also have to take into account Pakistan's increased import of machinery which is yet to be put to use. Considering everything we have done in the past 2-3 years to set up an increase in our exports there is no reason for us to fall back to the "destroy the economy by making everything extremely expensive and cut both imports and exports" strategy. We have done that in the past and it has never worked.

We can fall back a little and adjust our policies to meet the current situation the world is in by lowering imports and increasing tax on a few select items. If the world actually goes into a recession then we'll just adjust our policies accordingly like every other country.

Increased exports and restrictions on imports of non-essential items will automatically improve our CAD and overall economic position.
 
Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) Senator Mustafa Nawaz Khokhar on Saturday predicted another Rs30 per litre rise in tariffs of petroleum products.

"IMF might not be satisfied with the current hike [in petroleum products]. [The government] might also have to give a tough budget as well," he wrote on his official Twitter handle.

Mustafa, whose party is also a part of the coalition government, criticised the government's handling of the economic crisis. "The theory goes roughly like this: Let’s do what the IMF says, give a tough budget & we’ll give relief to the public next year, then we’ll happily head to elections. Sure but how certain are we that boys will let us reach that finish line," wrote the PPP leader, in a reference to the establishment.

He further said that the decision to go to IMF should be taken by a government with fresh mandate.

The statement came days after the government increased the petroleum products rates by Rs30 per litre, or up to one-fourth of their existing prices, paving the way for reaching a staff-level agreement with the International Monetary Fund by June 12.

The unprecedented decision will help defuse the landmines laid by the government of former prime minister Imran Khan on the one hand, and will save the country from looming default on the other.

Finance Minister Miftah Ismail made the decision public in an unscheduled news conference after Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif gave him the go-ahead in a party meeting.

With the fresh hike, the new price of petrol will be Rs179.88 per litre – the highest ever rate – and showing an increase of 20% over the existing prices. Ismail said that it was a “difficult decision that will erode political capital” of the government.

“The government was giving Rs56 per litre subsidy and I have only reduced the loss by Rs30 per litre,” said Miftah while addressing the news conference. High-speed-diesel new price will be Rs174.86 per litre, showing an increase of 20.8%.

Read more: PM unveils Rs28bn relief package

Miftah said that the government was giving Rs86 per litre subsidy, and in the first batch it has reduced the subsidy amount by only Rs30.

“The government cannot take the country towards default and is ready to pay the political cost for the sake of protecting the interest of the state,” said the finance minister.

On Friday, Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif announced a new relief package of Rs28 billion per month to “protect the poor from the impact of inflation”.

In his maiden address to the nation a day after his government caved in and fulfilled IMF’s condition, the prime minister defended the move as a “necessary measure to prevent the country from going bankrupt” and blamed the previous government for “destroying the country’s economy”.

Under the relief package, Shehbaz said that the poor families across the country would be paid Rs2,000 each, while stipends would be given to the deserving families through the Benazir Income Support Programme (BISP), adding that the utility stores had been directed to sell 10kg flour bag at Rs400.

“We increased the prices of petroleum products with a heavy heart. We sacrificed political interests and preferred the national interest to pull the economy out of the current crisis,” he said. “We will take every decision and do everything possible to advance the journey of national development.”

The next big action that the government is now required to take is to increase electricity prices by Rs5 per unit with effect from June 1, said the sources.

The total increase in the prices will be around Rs12 per unit that will include the withdrawal of Rs5 per unit electricity subsidy and the quarterly and annual tariff adjustments.

However, the decision will stoke inflation that was already at 13.4% in April -- the highest in two years. The government had a choice to take the hit by increasing the prices or let the rupee weaken in the absence of an IMF deal, with thin foreign exchange reserves that could have caused hyperinflation.

But the government moved only after the IMF refused to sign on a staff level agreement until Pakistan takes corrective measures, including reversal of fuel subsidies and an agreement over next year’s budget.

The government’s decision to increase the prices at the expense of the political capital suggests that it might have won a nod from the establishment to stay in power longer than earlier thought.

The government had refused to take tough decisions and then call snap elections just to pave the way for the victory of the PTI.

The journey towards restoring the macroeconomic stability may also help stem the rupee losses that dipped to the new lowest level of Rs203 to a dollar on Thursday. The foreign exchange reserves also dropped to $10 billion, according to the central bank.

Express Tribune
 
As soon VONC taken and IK lost, we should have gone to an election. In months the uncertainty would have been over but the mafia feared losing and in a desperate bid to survive they have taken PK down with them.
 
Finance Minister Miftah Ismail has announced that Pakistan is expected to reach an agreement with the International Monetary Fund (IMF) in June, as the country is projected to need $36-37 billion in foreign financing in the next fiscal year.

He revealed that at present the government was not considering raising fresh foreign debt from the global capital market and commercial banks after the country’s international bonds lost almost one-third of their value, while their yields went up significantly.

He said that instead of economic growth, controlling inflation was the top priority of the government.

“Inflation control will lead to economic growth,” he remarked while speaking at a webinar on “National Dialogue on Economy: The Way Forward for Pakistan”, organised by Nutshell Conferences and Corporate Pakistan Group on Saturday.

“Agriculture remains the first line of defence for Pakistan,” the minister stressed. However, the country will still import 3 million tons of wheat, 4 million tons of cooking oil worth $6 billion and 5 million bales of cotton to run the economy in the next fiscal year 2022-23.

Giving the breakdown of the external financing requirement, Ismail said “Pakistan is to repay $21 billion in foreign debt in the next fiscal year.”

Besides, the country will require another $10-15 billion to finance the current account deficit. The government is also targeting to boost the country’s foreign exchange reserves by $5 billion to $15 billion next year.

“So, it is a must to enter the IMF loan programme (worth $6 billion) to arrange the required financing,” Ismail said.

The value of Pakistan’s US dollar-denominated international bonds has shrunk by around 30% - like $1 bond was trading at 70 cents when the PML-N led coalition government came to power in early April. “Now it is trading at 65 cents,” he said.

“This means we cannot float Eurobonds in the world market to raise fresh funds, nor can we go to (global) commercial banks (right now),” the minister said.

At present, the viable option is to borrow from the multilateral and bilateral lenders.

“To take loans from the multilateral institutions, it is a must to be in the IMF programme. This unlocks financing from the World Bank, Asian Development Bank … and particularly the Chinese-led Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank … everyone is waiting for the revival of IMF programme,” he said.

Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif also went to Saudi Arabia and other friendly countries to acquire financing from them. “They are ready to extend loans, but only after we enter the IMF programme.”

The IMF has linked the revival of its loan programme to the removal of subsidy on petroleum products. “I am also in favour of ending the subsidy … as the economy cannot afford to pay Rs120-140 billion per month in energy subsidy.”

The subsidy amount is three times the cost of Rs41-42 billion a month for running the civilian government, he pointed out.

“This (energy subsidy) is unaffordable … we could become bankrupt,” the finance minister remarked. Owing to that, the government initiated the process of reversing the subsidy with effect from Friday (May 27).

The subsidy was being consumed more by the rich running big cars and less by the poor, he said. “That makes no sense.”

Ismail reiterated that PM Sharif announced a Rs28 billion package for the poor, under which Rs2,000 would be provided per household to protect them from the spike in inflation.

“Everyone earning less than Rs40,000 per month is eligible for the financial assistance of Rs2,000 per month.”

Achieving higher economic growth in a growing nation with young population was not a big task, “but achieving sustainable economic growth without current account deficit is tough,” Ismail said.

He underscored the “need to change focus of our policy … such as no more import-led growth, manufacturing for export purposes and a revolution in the agriculture sector.”

The country really needed to increase agricultural yields to cut the import bill, he emphasised.

The finance minister invited all political parties to frame the Charter of Economy, which could include the minimum economic agenda by setting aside the political differences.

The charter may include consensus on privatising the loss-making state-owned enterprises.

Speaking on the occasion, former finance minister Shaukat Tarin declared that he was also in favour of a national-level Charter of Economy.

“We will consider formulating the Charter of Economy only after general elections are held,” he said.

Tarin stressed the need to reduce the gap between import payments and export earnings with focus on IT exports, which grew fast during the previous government’s tenure.

“IT exports can be increased to $50 billion a year in five to six years … and reduce the gap between imports and exports.”

Tarin called for fast-tracking work on the Special Economic Zones (SEZs) to attract foreign investors.

He also spoke about increasing agricultural yields, boosting the tax-to-GDP and savings-to-GDP ratios and adopting an appropriate rupee-dollar exchange rate for “sustainable economic growth.”

Published in The Express Tribune, May 29th, 2022.
 
As soon VONC taken and IK lost, we should have gone to an election. In months the uncertainty would have been over but the mafia feared losing and in a desperate bid to survive they have taken PK down with them.

I see it getting worse.
 
Pakistan's productive capacity has increased, at least as far as textiles are concerned.

https://www.geo.tv/latest/374497-5-billion-investment-for-textile-sector-in-pipeline-razak-dawood

“We have been informed that an investment of approximately $5 billion is in the pipeline under which 100 new textile units are expected to be established,” the adviser said.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1662021#:~:text=LAHORE%3A%20With%20the%20ongoing%20%243.5,the%20fiscal%20year%202021%2D22.

“The total investment and expansion plan for all sectors for FY22 is worth $4.5bn and includes $3.5bn for textile sector alone. Investments of $1.5bn have been made so far in the textile sector while the rest $2bn would be in place by June 30, 2022,” the Aptma chairman explained

LAHORE: With the ongoing $3.5 billion expansion plan for the textile industry, Pakistan’s textile exports are likely to increase by $6bn and cross the $20bn target projected for the fiscal year 2021-22.

The foundation and investment is clearly there for expansion.

Then you also have to take into account Pakistan's increased import of machinery which is yet to be put to use. Considering everything we have done in the past 2-3 years to set up an increase in our exports there is no reason for us to fall back to the "destroy the economy by making everything extremely expensive and cut both imports and exports" strategy. We have done that in the past and it has never worked.

We can fall back a little and adjust our policies to meet the current situation the world is in by lowering imports and increasing tax on a few select items. If the world actually goes into a recession then we'll just adjust our policies accordingly like every other country.

Increased exports and restrictions on imports of non-essential items will automatically improve our CAD and overall economic position.

It's true that PTI did very good job of managing a CAD, although it also benefited with increasing global prices. Pakistan's textile exports became more competitive. In terms of volumes, it's getting there. Is it sustainable ? We shall see.

My point was that from economic perspective, the jury is still out on success story of exports. 1) Textiles cannot be relied on for sustainable growth. Pakistan's exports are not high end anyway. So operating profit of the business works more on scale than on margin. 2) Pakistan's imports is not as high as something. 18% of GDP which is line with rest of sub continent. 3) Exports have to be diversified to high margin businesses which can be sustained. Foreign technology and investment is the only way.

So looking at the business purely in $ terms might be deceptive. Exports are also function of massively depreciated currency. So I would not depend on this revenue stream yet.

In my view CAD will be okay this year and next year for the all wrong reasons. We are in global recession and we will see decline in both imports and exports. In that sense j do agree that $1bn CAD per month may not happen.

For some strange reason, I am still hopeful.
 
It's true that PTI did very good job of managing a CAD, although it also benefited with increasing global prices. Pakistan's textile exports became more competitive. In terms of volumes, it's getting there. Is it sustainable ? We shall see.

My point was that from economic perspective, the jury is still out on success story of exports. 1) Textiles cannot be relied on for sustainable growth. Pakistan's exports are not high end anyway. So operating profit of the business works more on scale than on margin. 2) Pakistan's imports is not as high as something. 18% of GDP which is line with rest of sub continent. 3) Exports have to be diversified to high margin businesses which can be sustained. Foreign technology and investment is the only way.

So looking at the business purely in $ terms might be deceptive. Exports are also function of massively depreciated currency. So I would not depend on this revenue stream yet.

In my view CAD will be okay this year and next year for the all wrong reasons. We are in global recession and we will see decline in both imports and exports. In that sense j do agree that $1bn CAD per month may not happen.

For some strange reason, I am still hopeful.

We'll have to wait and see what happens. The next few months will tell us a lot about the country's current situation now that we've increased fuel tax and somewhat slowed the economy down.
 
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