The silence of the Arab world on Palestine

[FearlessRoar]

The recent escalation in the Middle East has left the world witnessing the plight of Palestinians in Gaza. While pro-Palestine student protests have swept across US universities, the Arab world remains eerily silent. This silence is not due to a lack of concern but rather a complex web of factors that have led to a paralysis of action.

Firstly, the identity of Arab people has undergone a significant shift. The traditional pan-Arabic and Islamic identities that once united Arabs under a common cause have given way to national and sub-national identities. This shift has led to a decline in solidarity among Arabs, making them less invested in the Palestinian cause.

Secondly, the suppression of organized Arab civil institutions has left a vacuum in societal leadership. The Muslim Brotherhood, once a powerful force in the Arab world, has been declared a terrorist organization by several Arab states, silencing a key voice for Palestinian rights.

Thirdly, economic interests have taken precedence over political convictions. Arab elites prioritize their business ties with Western states, fearing any action in support of Palestine would harm their economic interests.

Lastly, the threat of Western powers has intimidated Arab governments into silence. The pro-Israeli global powers have made it clear that any support for Palestine will come at a cost, leaving Arab governments hesitant to take a stand.

This silence may seem like a temporary solution, but it's a ticking time bomb waiting to explode. The energy accumulated on the fault lines of Arab discontent will eventually release, leading to unpredictable consequences. The Arab world must find a way to reconcile its identities, rebuild its civil institutions, and prioritize justice over economic interests. Only then can it reclaim its voice and stand in solidarity with the Palestinian people.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Arabs are not a race. They are people that speak a common language. Most of the so called Arabic speakers in Middle East did not always speak Arabic. They spoke Aramaic, Syriac, Greek, Coptic etc. But with Islamic conquest, they all adopted the dominant cultures language. They all look different in different countries. So the Arabic identity has a question mark on it. The one thing that unites them is religion.
Caliphate is long gone and its every country for itself. Hanging on to a identity that worked centuries ago will not work now.

Most countries in Middle East know the reality of the conflict. They tried before to destroy Israel and failed. They realized that it is in their best interest to be allies of Israel or at least be neutral rather than be enemies.

Palestinians are radicalized bunch. Too much of cozying with them will be detrimental to the regimes of Middle East and Egypt. Its funny that a Shia Iran is supporting Sunni Hamas while all Sunni countries are turning a blind eye to the conflict. At best they offer lip service for the people that died. These Arab speaking countries do not even allow protests in their countries. That shows how much they care about the Gaza war.

There is no ticking time bomb ready to explode in Middle East. All pipe dreams of Subcontinent Muslims who are hoping that some kind of force takes on Israel. No Arab country will support a cause that Iran backs. They are always wary of Iran's grand plans to be the dominant player in Middle East.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Arab leaders are to blame here for the deplorable conditions of muslims in middle east as instead of ending wars, they have fueled many

 

[sweep_shot]

Arab people are not silent. There were protests in Jordan, Morocco, and Yemen, for example.

But, Arab leaders seem to be sellouts. Disappointing.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Arab people are not silent. There were protests in Jordan and Yemen, for example.

But, Arab leaders seem to be sellouts. Disappointing.

The leaders of the Arab world are firmly requested not to allow any protest, so it is misleading to say the Arab world is silent. Any such protest which got too much publicity would prove highly detrimental to israel and it's client states, so if the Arab world wants to stay onside, the leaders make sure to mute demonstrations which might jeopardise their relationships.

 

[rpant_gabba]

The leaders of the Arab world are firmly requested not to allow any protest, so it is misleading to say the Arab world is silent. Any such protest which got too much publicity would prove highly detrimental to israel and it's client states, so if the Arab world wants to stay onside, the leaders make sure to mute demonstrations which might jeopardise their relationships.

In other words they are sell outs.. same way they sold out the Ottaman empire.

 

[rpant_gabba]

Arab leaders are to blame here for the deplorable conditions of muslims in middle east as instead of ending wars, they have fueled many

you can blame the current Palestine situation also to them to some extent for aggravating a salvageable situation the in 1948

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

In other words they are sell outs.. same way they sold out the Ottaman empire.

Yes.

 

[JaDed]

So has Pakistan.. Arab rulers are afraid they will be next if protests have an impact. The idea of protests and democracy isn’t looked well upon since Arab spring.
Arab rulers don’t want Iran revolution to happen to them.

It will always be ironic how everyone shouts about their rights in western nations but become meek going back to theirs.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Pakistan’s economic struggles has resulted in the Islamic world becoming leaderless. Despite the riches of the Arab world, they have always depended on the counsel & the diplomatic prowess of Pakistan. Although Islam originates in Middle East, it is Pakistan which was carved out in the name of Islam with a vision that it would not only protect Islam regionally from two big powers of another religion, but would also lead it in the modern world with high integrity, preserving and propagating the idea of salvation as was taught.

Let us not be ignorants. Before the discovery of oil wells, the Arabic peninsula were just a poor bunch of nomads no offense intended. They have been exceptionally fortunate to get rich so quickly and that has most likely messed up with their brains big time. I love the Emirates as a Hindu, Saudis are also opening up and becoming incredibly open minded. But if i was a stout muslim, I would despise them to the extreme. The way they have let the West get away with their crimes against humanity in the Middle East right in front of their eyes, it’s absolutely despicable.

There is mad passion in the Arabs i know that and i have seen that with my eyes. I have seen them get out on the streets with passion no other people could in the world and yet they remain powerless because their governments cannot do zilch.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

One can't see these kids crying and calling Arabs for help, Indeed Arab leaders deserve severe condemnation​

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Why Palestinians in Gaza ask ‘Where are the Arabs?’​

Since Israel began its war on Gaza, Palestinians have repeatedly been seen in videos asking “Where are the Arabs?”. Here’s why.

Why Palestinians in Gaza ask ‘Where are the Arabs?’

Since Israel began its war on Gaza, Palestinians have repeatedly been seen in videos asking “Where are the Arabs?”.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[guard]

Pakistan’s economic struggles has resulted in the Islamic world becoming leaderless. Despite the riches of the Arab world, they have always depended on the counsel & the diplomatic prowess of Pakistan. Although Islam originates in Middle East, it is Pakistan which was carved out in the name of Islam with a vision that it would not only protect Islam regionally from two big powers of another religion, but would also lead it in the modern world with high integrity, preserving and propagating the idea of salvation as was taught.

Let us not be ignorants. Before the discovery of oil wells, the Arabic peninsula were just a poor bunch of nomads no offense intended. They have been exceptionally fortunate to get rich so quickly and that has most likely messed up with their brains big time. I love the Emirates as a Hindu, Saudis are also opening up and becoming incredibly open minded. But if i was a stout muslim, I would despise them to the extreme. The way they have let the West get away with their crimes against humanity in the Middle East right in front of their eyes, it’s absolutely despicable.

There is mad passion in the Arabs i know that and i have seen that with my eyes. I have seen them get out on the streets with passion no other people could in the world and yet they remain powerless because their governments cannot do zilch.

Oh man!! Not this again…

 

[The Bald Eagle]

The United Arab Emirates says it will not support Israel in its “day after” plan in Gaza unless a Palestinian state is established

“The United Arab Emirates is not ready to support the day after the war in Gaza without the establishment of a Palestinian state,” UAE Foreign Minister Abdullah bin Zayed Al Nahyan posted on X on Saturday.

In May, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu published online a post-war plan for Gaza, claiming the Palestinians “would enjoy unparalleled prosperity” once it is implemented.

The plan included investments in ports, solar energy, electric car manufacturing and benefits from newly discovered Gaza gasfields. The plan consisted of three stages from an unspecified “victory date” to 2035.

The roadmap said Palestinians in Gaza would run the plan under Israeli occupation, supervised by a coalition of Arab states, including the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Bahrain, Jordan and Morocco.

In response, Abdullah had lambasted Netanyahu, saying he “lacked legitimate authority to implement this step or take any similar measures” and making it clear that the UAE was not consulted on the Gaza plans.

Source: Al Jazeera

 

[sweep_shot]

There is a distinction between common Arab people and Arab rulers.

Common Arab people care about Palestine. However, Arab rulers seem to be sellouts.

 

[FearlessRoar]

What used to be a unifying issue for Arab leaders, support for Palestinian liberation has almost disappeared. They’ve shifted focus to maintaining their own power and alliances with Israel and the U.S. Even Egypt’s strict cooperation with Israel on the Gaza border is making the humanitarian crisis worse. It’s shocking to think that this open alliance with Israel, once unimaginable, is now the reality.

Arab regimes no longer see the Palestinian cause as essential to their legitimacy, and they’re pushing forward with normalization. The Abraham Accords and the potential Saudi-Israel normalization are examples of this. But here’s the thing: they’re out of touch with their own people. Most Arabs are still deeply connected to the Palestinian struggle, and these governments are ignoring that at their own risk.

 

[FearlessRoar]

UAE says sectarian militias have "cost the Arabs dearly"

The UAE believes that sectarian militias in the Middle East have cost the Arab world and hopes the future of the region is an Arab project that is “reconciled with its surroundings,” a top official said.

“In light of the wars and crises that threaten Arab and regional security, we have no choice but to restore the concept of the nation state and respect its independence and sovereignty,” Anwar Gargash, the UAE president’s diplomatic adviser, said on X.

“The era of militias with its sectarian and regional dimensions has cost the Arabs dearly and burdened the region,” he added, in an apparent reference to Iran-backed Shiite militias in the region.

“The future is for security, peace and prosperity with an independent Arab project that is reconciled with its surroundings,” Gargash said.

He also said that the two-state solution to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict “remains the cornerstone to stop the series of recurring crises.”

CNN

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

What used to be a unifying issue for Arab leaders, support for Palestinian liberation has almost disappeared. They’ve shifted focus to maintaining their own power and alliances with Israel and the U.S. Even Egypt’s strict cooperation with Israel on the Gaza border is making the humanitarian crisis worse. It’s shocking to think that this open alliance with Israel, once unimaginable, is now the reality.

Arab regimes no longer see the Palestinian cause as essential to their legitimacy, and they’re pushing forward with normalization. The Abraham Accords and the potential Saudi-Israel normalization are examples of this. But here’s the thing: they’re out of touch with their own people. Most Arabs are still deeply connected to the Palestinian struggle, and these governments are ignoring that at their own risk.

Egypt suffered first hand at the hands Islamic terror from Gaza in the Sinai peninsula. Why shouldn't they be cautious?

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Majority of these Gulf leaders who were hand picked by U.S have zionest bloodline, hence their ignorance on the Palastanians cause.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Mohammad Morsi was a prime example of a man of the People who brutally brushed aside by the Poodle establishment.

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

Majority of these Gulf leaders who were hand picked by U.S have zionest bloodline, hence their ignorance on the Palastanians cause.

Almost entire Arab world has Jewish ancestry.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Arab, Muslim leaders fly to Saudi Arabia for talks on Israel’s wars in Gaza, Lebanon​

Arab and Muslim leaders have begun arriving in Saudi Arabia for a summit scheduled for Monday that will focus on Israel’s wars in Gaza and Lebanon, Saudi state media said.

The Saudi foreign ministry announced the summit in late October during the first meeting of an “international alliance” pushing for a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Attendees will “discuss the continued Israeli aggression on the Palestinian territories and the Lebanese Republic, and the current developments in the region,” the official Saudi Press Agency (SPA) said on Sunday.

It comes one year after a similar gathering in Riyadh of the Cairo-based Arab League and the Jeddah-based Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) during which leaders condemned Israeli forces’ actions in Gaza as “barbaric.”

The Saudi state-affiliated al-Ekhbariya news channel broadcast footage on Sunday of Nigerian President Bola Tinubu and Lebanese caretaker Prime Minister Najib Mikati landing in Riyadh.

Pakistani Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif was also scheduled to attend, the Pakistani foreign ministry said last week, adding that he planned to call for “an immediate end to the genocide in Gaza” and the “immediate cessation of the ongoing Israeli adventurism in the region.”

On Sunday afternoon, Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Faisal bin Farhan chaired the preparatory ministerial meeting for the extraordinary Arab and Islamic summit ahead of Monday’s session.

The war in Gaza erupted with Hamas’s unprecedented attack on southern Israel on October 7 last year, which resulted in 1,206 deaths, mostly civilians, according to an AFP tally of Israeli official figures.

Israel’s retaliatory campaign has killed more than 43,600 people in Gaza, most of them civilians, according to data from the territory’s health ministry that the United Nations considers reliable.

Lebanon-based Hezbollah, which like Hamas is backed by Iran, began firing on Israel after the October 7 attack.

The regular cross-border exchanges escalated in late September when Israel intensified its air strikes before sending ground troops into southern Lebanon against Hezbollah.

https://english.alarabiya.net/News/saudi-arabia/2024/11/10/arab-muslim-leaders-arrive-in-saudi-arabia-for-talks-on-israel-s-wars-in-gaza-lebanon

 

[Bhaijaan]

Hamas kicked out from Qatar after Trump’s win.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Hamas kicked out from Qatar after Trump’s win.

Qataris know about the consequences of harboring and abetting Hamas when Trump takes the office.

It’s game over for all extremists in Middle East.

 

[Farhan The Man]

Thread is quieter than the other one of 20mil jews v 2bil muslims.

Clearly muslims v self is a digestible fact. 1400 years and counting.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Qataris know about the consequences of harboring and abetting Hamas when Trump takes the office.

It’s game over for all extremists in Middle East.

What about the Israeli annexation of Palestinian territory, and they acquire further more, what do the deluded hindutwa extremists think of that?

 

[FearlessRoar]

Thread is quieter than the other one of 20mil jews v 2bil muslims.

Clearly muslims v self is a digestible fact. 1400 years and counting.

Very deep post

 

[Hitman]

Forget the Arabs. They never assumed theekedari of the Muslim world. Neither do they have nukes. What about Pakistan, the only Islamic country with nukes? What have they done other than some roadside protests and boycotting KFC, McDonalds, etc?

Zaid Hamid is one wise man in Pakistan. He suggested Pakistan bombing Israel back in around 2009 to intimidate them and send them a message. If only GHQ listened to him all these years, India would have been begging for bailout packages from Pakistan instead of the IMF.​

 

[FearlessRoar]

Arab, Muslim leaders arrive in Saudi Arabia for summit on Gaza, Lebanon​

Arab and Muslim leaders gather in Saudi Arabia Monday for a summit addressing the wars in Gaza and Lebanon.

The Saudi foreign ministry announced plans for the summit in late October during a meeting, also in Riyadh, of a new “international alliance” to press for the establishment of a Palestinian state.

Leaders began arriving in Riyadh on Sunday in preparation for the summit that comes one year after a similar gathering in Riyadh of the Cairo-based Arab League and the Jeddah-based Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC).

The war in Gaza erupted after an unprecedented attack by Hamas on southern Israel on October 7 last year, which resulted in 1,206 deaths, mostly civilians, according to an AFP tally of Israeli official figures.

Israel’s retaliatory campaign has killed more than 43,600 people in Gaza, most of them civilians, according to data from the territory’s health ministry.

Lebanon-based Hezbollah, which like Hamas is backed by Iran, began firing on Israel after the October 7 attack. The regular cross-border exchanges escalated in late September when Israel intensified its air strikes and sent ground troops into southern Lebanon.

On Sunday afternoon, Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Faisal bin Farhan chaired the preparatory ministerial meeting ahead of Monday’s session.

https://english.alarabiya.net/News/saudi-arabia/2024/11/11/arab-muslim-leaders-arrive-in-saudi-arabia-for-summit-on-gaza-lebanon-

 

[FearlessRoar]

Trump looms over Saudi-hosted meeting of Arab, Muslim leaders on Mideast war​

Arab and Muslim leaders gather in Saudi Arabia Monday for a summit addressing the wars in Gaza and Lebanon that will be a chance to send a message to US President-elect Donald Trump.

The Saudi foreign ministry announced plans for the summit in late October during a meeting, also in Riyadh, of a new “international alliance” to press for the establishment of a Palestinian state.

It comes one year after a similar gathering in Riyadh of the Cairo-based Arab League and the Jeddah-based Organisation of Islamic Cooperation during which leaders condemned Israeli forces’ actions in Gaza targeting the Palestinian terror group Hamas — after it brutally attacked southern Israel in a shock onslaught — as “barbaric.”

This time around, Trump’s election last week for a second term in the White House is likely to be on leaders’ minds, said Anna Jacobs, senior Gulf analyst for the International Crisis Group think tank.

“This summit is very much an opportunity for regional leaders to signal to the incoming Trump administration what they want in terms of US engagement,” she said.

Trump looms over Saudi-hosted meeting of Arab, Muslim leaders on Mideast war

Analysts see Riyadh summit as opportunity for countries to signal what they want from incoming US president; condemnations of Israel, calls for de-escalation expected

www.timesofisrael.com

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Thread is quieter than the other one of 20mil jews v 2bil muslims.

Clearly muslims v self is a digestible fact. 1400 years and counting.

Thread is about the distinction of Arab support not Muslims. What has that got to do with most of the posters here? I doubt there are any arabs on PP.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Saudi Arabia’s MBS demands immediate end to Israel’s war in Gaza, Lebanon​

Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman has demanded that Israel immediately stop its military aggression in Gaza and Lebanon at the opening of a summit of Arab and Muslim leaders in Riyadh.

In an address before the joint Arab League and Organisation of Islamic Cooperation summit on Monday, the crown prince, also known as MBS, condemned the “massacre committed against Palestinian and Lebanese people”.

He urged Israel “to refrain from any further act of aggression”, and while calling on countries around the world to recognise the Palestinian statehood.

Source: Al Jazeera

 

[Champ_Pal]

What about the Israeli annexation of Palestinian territory, and they acquire further more, what do the deluded hindutwa extremists think of that?

You lose the war, you lose the territory. Put the Green tinted glasses down and you will see how the world works.

Every time Arabs waged war, they lost territory to Israel.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

You lose the war, you lose the territory. Put the Green tinted glasses down and you will see how the world works.

Every time Arabs waged war, they lost territory to Israel.

So why so much crying by your fellow posters on Muslim conquests in India

 

[aboveandbeyond]

You lose the war, you lose the territory. Put the Green tinted glasses down and you will see how the world works.

Every time Arabs waged war, they lost territory to Israel.

What a deluded xxxl. So you call massacring of women and children as war?

BJP hindutwa have stooped to new levels of shame and ignorance

 

[Champ_Pal]

So why so much crying by your fellow posters on Muslim conquests in India

Its the atrocities that were committed on Indian people by Turkic armies for being idolators and leftists try to whitewash it. That is where the crying and objections come from. If it was a regular war that happens between India-Pakistan or India-China, no one cries over it. Its the persecution for praying to idols.

Indian empires never attacked Central Asia and lost the war. The constant attacks always came from Central Asia.

In Israel's case, it was Arabs that start the war and then lose the territory.

 

[sweep_shot]

At least Israel tries to minimize collateral damage.

This one sentence alone shows why nobody should discuss Palestine issue with you.

Ignorance overload.

 

[JaDed]

So why so much crying by your fellow posters on Muslim conquests in India

For the same reason.. its like that spiderman meme, Pakistani Muslims glorify that conquest so they shoudn’t have an issue with Zionist Empire being brutal as well.

Note: I hated every conquest including Ashoka’s brutal war.

 

[JaDed]

This one sentence alone shows why nobody should discuss Palestine issue with you.

Ignorance overload.

None of us should discuss the issue coz we don’t live there.
Weird logic eh.

 

[sweep_shot]

You are unlikely to see Indians on Ukraine-Russia thread or Ajerbaizan-Armenia thread.

They are on Palestine thread due to their Islamophobia.

 

[Champ_Pal]

None of us should discuss the issue coz we don’t live there.
Weird logic eh.

While it is very harsh on Gazans who are actually living there, the hard fact is, Hamas themselves do not care about Gazans. Had they cared about Gazans lives, they would not have started the war. If Hamas does not care, why would the enemy Israel care. Hamas themselves fight dirty war, but expects Israel to fight a just war and follow rules.

Even now, Hamas has not surrendered and released the hostages. They see ordinary innocent gazans losing their lives as Israel is pursuing hamas. But Hamas does not care. To them anyone who loses their lives is a martyr.

Any responsible army would have surrendered by now. Not Hamas.

 

[Champ_Pal]

You are unlikely to see Indians on Ukraine-Russia thread or Ajerbaizan-Armenia thread.

They are on Palestine thread due to their Islamophobia.

Open a thread on it. I don't see it on the 1st page of the TP section.

In these wars, there is no right or wrong. Might is right. It has always been the rule. History shows that.

 

[JaDed]

You are unlikely to see Indians on Ukraine-Russia thread or Ajerbaizan-Armenia thread.

They are on Palestine thread due to their Islamophobia.

I post consistently on Ukraine Russian thread..

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Its the atrocities that were committed on Indian people by Turkic armies for being idolators and leftists try to whitewash it. That is where the crying and objections come from. If it was a regular war that happens between India-Pakistan or India-China, no one cries over it. Its the persecution for praying to idols.

Indian empires never attacked Central Asia and lost the war. The constant attacks always came from Central Asia.

In Israel's case, it was Arabs that start the war and then lose the territory.

Arabs didn't start the war, they had their land annexed and handed over to Jewish settlers from around the world.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

None of us should discuss the issue coz we don’t live there.
Weird logic eh.

So you would turn a blind eye on Genocide. Shows the lack of humanity left.

 

[JaDed]

So you would turn a blind eye on Genocide. Shows the lack of humanity left.

? I was saying why that’s a weird logic to that poster. He used that line on me for Canada a week ago, that one can’t know or discuss the issue if one doesn’t live there.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Egypt to host emergency Arab summit to discuss ‘serious’ Palestinian developments​

Egypt will host a summit of Arab nations on February 27 to discuss “the latest serious developments” concerning the Palestinian territories, its foreign ministry said in a statement on Sunday.

The “emergency Arab summit” comes as Egypt has been rallying regional support against US President Donald Trump’s plan to relocate Palestinians from the Gaza Strip to Egypt and Jordan while establishing US control over the coastal territory.

Sunday’s statement said the gathering was called “after extensive consultations by Egypt at the highest levels with Arab countries in recent days, including Palestine, which requested the summit, to address the latest serious developments regarding the Palestinian cause.”

That included coordination with Bahrain, which currently chairs the Arab League, the statement said.

On Friday, Egyptian Foreign Minister Badr Abdelatty spoke with regional partners including Jordan, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates to shore up opposition to any forced displacement of Palestinians from their land.

Last week, Trump floated the idea of US administration over Gaza, envisioning rebuilding the devastated territory into the “Riviera of the Middle East” after resettling Palestinians elsewhere, namely Egypt and Jordan.

The remarks have prompted global backlash, and Arab countries have firmly rejected the proposal, insisting on a two-state solution with an independent Palestinian state alongside Israel.

https://english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-east/2025/02/09/egypt-to-host-emergency-arab-summit-on-27-february-to-discuss-serious-developments

 

[Farhan The Man]

Ha! The only two nations to continue receiving US aid are: egypt and israel.

egypt calling the shots on this is duplicitous. It's a spot check of who's onboard the plan.

islamic republick of pakistan should thank its god for not being "arab". Yo no hablo arabe. And keep out.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Hamas praises Jordan, Egypt for ‘rejecting displacement’ in Gaza​

Palestinian militant group Hamas on Wednesday praised Jordan and Egypt for “rejecting displacement” of Gazans, which US President Donald Trump had proposed.

Hamas “appreciates the positions of our brothers in Jordan and Egypt in rejecting displacement of our people and affirming that there is an Arab plan to rebuild Gaza without displacing its residents,” the group said.

Jordan and Egypt, where Trump has suggested Gaza’s more than two million inhabitants could be relocated, voiced their opposition to his plan, which also includes a US takeover of the war-torn Palestinian territory, on Tuesday.

Jordan’s King Abdullah II said on social media he “reiterated Jordan’s steadfast position against the displacement of Palestinians,” adding it was “the unified Arab position.”

The Jordanian ruler’s comments followed meetings with Trump in Washington on Tuesday.

Egypt, a US ally which borders Gaza, also on Tuesday said it plans to “present a comprehensive vision for the reconstruction” of the Palestinian territory which ensures residents remain on their land.

For all the latest headlines follow our Google News channel online or via the app.

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas on Tuesday praised King Abdullah’s position “in support of the just and legitimate national rights of our people.”

Abbas also praised the position of Egypt, Saudi Arabia and other Arab states and allies for their rejection of Trump’s proposal, the Palestinian official news agency WAFA reported.

Hamas, in its Wednesday statement also praised Jordan’s opposition to the plan as a continuation of Amman’s “long-standing rejection of displacement, resettlement.”

The group also characterized what it called “so-called ‘alternative homeland’ projects” as aiming to “erase the identity of our Palestinian people and eliminate their just cause.”

https://english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-east/2025/02/12/hamas-praises-jordan-egypt-for-rejecting-displacement-in-gaza

 

[Champ_Pal]

Arabs didn't start the war, they had their land annexed and handed over to Jewish settlers from around the world.

Who attacked Israel when it formed as a nation? The situation would have been a lot more peaceful had Arabs accepted the land division. But they could not digest the presence of Jews there and banded together to take it down. Lost the war and lost the territory. Not sure why all the hue and cry are about.

The land what we now call Israel was forcefully taken over by Caliphate from Jews and Christians. Then it went to Crusaders, then it went to Turks and then to British. It is your country that divided the land on religious lines like they did with India.

The solution would have been a lot simpler if not for greed and hatred.

 

[HalBass9]

Who attacked Israel when it formed as a nation? The situation would have been a lot more peaceful had Arabs accepted the land division. But they could not digest the presence of Jews there and banded together to take it down. Lost the war and lost the territory. Not sure why all the hue and cry are about.

The land what we now call Israel was forcefully taken over by Caliphate from Jews and Christians. Then it went to Crusaders, then it went to Turks and then to British. It is your country that divided the land on religious lines like they did with India.

The solution would have been a lot simpler if not for greed and hatred.

Presence of Jews?

Jews, Christian and Muslims lived side by side for centuries before zionist decided to make Palestine the greater Israel.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Who attacked Israel when it formed as a nation? The situation would have been a lot more peaceful had Arabs accepted the land division.

Try migrating (even more) Indians into the UK and renaming it Bharat while kicking the original inhabitants into Scotland and see if you get a warm welcome from the Brits.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Presence of Jews?

Jews, Christian and Muslims lived side by side for centuries before zionist decided to make Palestine the greater Israel.

India also had Hindus and Muslims living side by side for centuries. But it was divided on the demands of honorable Mr. Jinnah.

Greater Israel is the land Israel won from Arabs during the war. Losers get lota and winners take it all. That land what we now call Israel has always been that way. Whichever power dominates, they get to rule it.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Try migrating (even more) Indians into the UK and renaming it Bharat while kicking the original inhabitants into Scotland and see if you get a warm welcome from the Brits.

Let me do the honors to burst your bubble.

Indians are migrating and no doubt about it. It is for Brits to halt this unchecked immigration. I full support British if they decide to completely block Indians from immigrating to UK. Their country and they get to decide who to invite and who not to.

No Indian ever said Brit Isles should be part of Bharat and Hindutva must be the rule and law of the land. But your co-religionists sure want Brit to be part of an imaginary caliphate and want to enforce their laws on the Brits including the natives. A bit of reading up on the news and some youtube clips will show you the reality.

 

[HalBass9]

India also had Hindus and Muslims living side by side for centuries. But it was divided on the demands of honorable Mr. Jinnah.

Greater Israel is the land Israel won from Arabs during the war. Losers get lota and winners take it all. That land what we now call Israel has always been that way. Whichever power dominates, they get to rule it.

Have you seen Israel Army emblem, it has the greater Israel map that include not just Palestine but other countries in the region.

The Muslims of India were the region's original inhabitants, not colonial migrants from the British era.

Mindlessly repeating talking points without any thought doesn’t make them true.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Have you seen Israel Army emblem, it has the greater Israel map that include not just Palestine but other countries in the region.

The Muslims of India were the region's original inhabitants, not colonial migrants from the British era.

Mindlessly repeating talking points without any thought doesn’t make them true.

Muslims of Indian subcontinent conveniently change their forefathers from Arabs to Persians to Turks to Indians depending on the occasion and situation.

Whatever that Israeli emblem says is immaterial. What matters is who won the war and who lost the land.

Had Arabs won the war, you would not be talking about Jewish rights on the Holy land. Just like no Muslim talks about the rights of Zoroastrians in Iran or Coptics in Egypt.

Mizrahi/Sephardic aka Middle Eastern are the Jews that are not mixed with Euro blood are the majority population of Israel. They form 48% of population. The Ashkenazi Jews that are heavily mixed with European DNA are 2nd with 45% of population. They still carry the same Middle Eastern Jewish DNA. For Ashkenazi Jews, 40% of their DNA is still middle Eastern. The rest from countries all over Europe and central asia. Which means Ashkenazi Jews were mixing with locals where ever they went.
Ashkenazi are not some German or Scandinavian dudes who decided to settle in Israel. They were expelled centuries ago in various waves by different imperial powers. They were never allowed to settle in one place. This is why 60% of Asjkenazi DNA has many European and central asian groups in there.

Israel is a Jewish nation. So any Jew from around the world could come and settle there. Who is anyone to question who the nation of Israel invites to settle in their country? This is like Indians protesting the settlement of Muslims from Middle East in Pakistan after its creation(although it never happened). Pakistan is its own country now and they have every right to invite whoever they want to in their country.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Muslims of Indian subcontinent conveniently change their forefathers from Arabs to Persians to Turks to Indians depending on the occasion and situation.

Whatever that Israeli emblem says is immaterial. What matters is who won the war and who lost the land.

Had Arabs won the war, you would not be talking about Jewish rights on the Holy land. Just like no Muslim talks about the rights of Zoroastrians in Iran or Coptics in Egypt.

Mizrahi/Sephardic aka Middle Eastern are the Jews that are not mixed with Euro blood are the majority population of Israel. They form 48% of population. The Ashkenazi Jews that are heavily mixed with European DNA are 2nd with 45% of population. They still carry the same Middle Eastern Jewish DNA. For Ashkenazi Jews, 40% of their DNA is still middle Eastern. The rest from countries all over Europe and central asia. Which means Ashkenazi Jews were mixing with locals where ever they went.
Ashkenazi are not some German or Scandinavian dudes who decided to settle in Israel. They were expelled centuries ago in various waves by different imperial powers. They were never allowed to settle in one place. This is why 60% of Asjkenazi DNA has many European and central asian groups in there.

Israel is a Jewish nation. So any Jew from around the world could come and settle there. Who is anyone to question who the nation of Israel invites to settle in their country? This is like Indians protesting the settlement of Muslims from Middle East in Pakistan after its creation(although it never happened). Pakistan is its own country now and they have every right to invite whoever they want to in their country.

So Ashkenazi were Palestinians

 

[HalBass9]

Muslims of Indian subcontinent conveniently change their forefathers from Arabs to Persians to Turks to Indians depending on the occasion and situation.

Whatever that Israeli emblem says is immaterial. What matters is who won the war and who lost the land.

Had Arabs won the war, you would not be talking about Jewish rights on the Holy land. Just like no Muslim talks about the rights of Zoroastrians in Iran or Coptics in Egypt.

Mizrahi/Sephardic aka Middle Eastern are the Jews that are not mixed with Euro blood are the majority population of Israel. They form 48% of population. The Ashkenazi Jews that are heavily mixed with European DNA are 2nd with 45% of population. They still carry the same Middle Eastern Jewish DNA. For Ashkenazi Jews, 40% of their DNA is still middle Eastern. The rest from countries all over Europe and central asia. Which means Ashkenazi Jews were mixing with locals where ever they went.
Ashkenazi are not some German or Scandinavian dudes who decided to settle in Israel. They were expelled centuries ago in various waves by different imperial powers. They were never allowed to settle in one place. This is why 60% of Asjkenazi DNA has many European and central asian groups in there.

Israel is a Jewish nation. So any Jew from around the world could come and settle there. Who is anyone to question who the nation of Israel invites to settle in their country? This is like Indians protesting the settlement of Muslims from Middle East in Pakistan after its creation(although it never happened). Pakistan is its own country now and they have every right to invite whoever they want to in their country.

Once more, it matters that their army emblem features the map of Greater Israel, which utterly demolishes your feeble argument that Israel is pursuing peace rather than territorial expansion through genocide and ethnic cleansing. This single fact renders every one of your points irrelevant, but we all know how you’ll desperately pivot to more nonsensical distractions.

The ICC and the Global South have already recognized the atrocities in Palestine for what they are, genocide and ethnic cleansing. The only ones shamelessly condoning this are colonialist white nations and Indians, for reasons so glaringly obvious they don’t even need to be stated.

Your attempt to drag Pakistan into this as some kind of justification is not only desperate but also one of the most absurd and idiotic defenses of ethnic cleansing I’ve ever heard.

And what DNA do Palestinians have? Your entire argument is as hollow as your understanding of the situation.

 

[sweep_shot]

Once more, it matters that their army emblem features the map of Greater Israel, which utterly demolishes your feeble argument that Israel is pursuing peace rather than territorial expansion through genocide and ethnic cleansing. This single fact renders every one of your points irrelevant, but we all know how you’ll desperately pivot to more nonsensical distractions.

The ICC and the Global South have already recognized the atrocities in Palestine for what they are, genocide and ethnic cleansing. The only ones shamelessly condoning this are colonialist white nations and Indians, for reasons so glaringly obvious they don’t even need to be stated.

Your attempt to drag Pakistan into this as some kind of justification is not only desperate but also one of the most absurd and idiotic defenses of ethnic cleansing I’ve ever heard.

And what DNA do Palestinians have? Your entire argument is as hollow as your understanding of the situation.

They also had this on their coins apparently.

Quoting from Wikipedia:

10 agorot controversy - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

10 agorot controversy​

The 10 agorot controversy refers to a conspiracy theory made public by Palestine Liberation Organization chairman Yasser Arafat's appearance at a specially convened session of the UN Security Council in Geneva on 25 May 1990. At the session, Arafat claimed that the obverse design of an Israeli ten agorot coin showed a map of "Greater Israel" that represented Zionist expansionist goals.


Old 100 Shekel coin, 1984

​

In support of his claim that the 10 agorot coins displayed a Greater Israel, Arafat also quoted a 1989 paper by Gwyn Rowley of the University of Sheffield published in GeoJournal. The paper titled "Developing Perspectives upon the Areal Extent of Israel: An Outline Evaluation" raised the question of what the maximum territorial extents of Eretz Yisrael were in the eyes of Israelis. As part of this inquiry, Rowley presented a map of the Middle East with a superimposed outline based on the embossed pattern of a contemporary 10 agorot coin. In the text Rowley surmised:

Whereas Israel has never formally defined its borders one possible indication of Israel's broader territorial ambitions might be seen in the Israeli ten agorot coin which carries a map, seemingly depicting an area that would extend over to encompass present-day Amman, Beirut, Baghdad, Damascus and the N parts of Saudi Arabia. This same territorial depiction was carried on the earlier one sheqal coin.

S. M. Berkowicz, of the Department of Physical Geography, at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem criticized Rowley's article in a subsequent paper also published by GeoJournal. Berkowicz concluded that the shape was based on an ancient coin and "There is of course no foundation to Rowley's undocumented claim."

Arafat's meeting in Geneva generated widespread global media coverage.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Let me do the honors to burst your bubble.

Indians are migrating and no doubt about it. It is for Brits to halt this unchecked immigration. I full support British if they decide to completely block Indians from immigrating to UK. Their country and they get to decide who to invite and who not to.

No Indian ever said Brit Isles should be part of Bharat and Hindutva must be the rule and law of the land. But your co-religionists sure want Brit to be part of an imaginary caliphate and want to enforce their laws on the Brits including the natives. A bit of reading up on the news and some youtube clips will show you the reality.

So you are happy to see Jewish European migrants and their settlers forcibly kick out the Palestinians who were local to the area of Palestine and create a new country for the Jews, and you think the Arabs were wrong to resist...but then you fully support the British right to resist if the same happened to them in a hypothetical situation? I don't see you bursting any bubbles, you are just showing your double standards, then trying to whatabout your way out of it by talking about some imaginary caliphate in Britain instead.

 

[Champ_Pal]

So Ashkenazi were Palestinians

No. There were no Palestinians. It’s a made up term.
Palestinians are Arabs who mixed with local Jews and Christian and converted to Islam. I thought you would know that..

 

[Champ_Pal]

Once more, it matters that their army emblem features the map of Greater Israel, which utterly demolishes your feeble argument that Israel is pursuing peace rather than territorial expansion through genocide and ethnic cleansing. This single fact renders every one of your points irrelevant, but we all know how you’ll desperately pivot to more nonsensical distractions.

The ICC and the Global South have already recognized the atrocities in Palestine for what they are, genocide and ethnic cleansing. The only ones shamelessly condoning this are colonialist white nations and Indians, for reasons so glaringly obvious they don’t even need to be stated.

Your attempt to drag Pakistan into this as some kind of justification is not only desperate but also one of the most absurd and idiotic defenses of ethnic cleansing I’ve ever heard.

And what DNA do Palestinians have? Your entire argument is as hollow as your understanding of the situation.

Who attacked Israel when it was formed? Who wanted to destroy Israel the day it formed? Who lost the war? Who lost the territory?
You will get all your answers. But you want to concentrate on irrelevant things like Emblems and signs.

 

[Champ_Pal]

So you are happy to see Jewish European migrants and their settlers forcibly kick out the Palestinians who were local to the area of Palestine and create a new country for the Jews, and you think the Arabs were wrong to resist...but then you fully support the British right to resist if the same happened to them in a hypothetical situation? I don't see you bursting any bubbles, you are just showing your double standards, then trying to whatabout your way out of it by talking about some imaginary caliphate in Britain instead.

Forcibly kicked out?

Arabs lost the war and lost the territory. It was the good will he store if Israel that Arabs even got Gaza and Westbank.

Had Arabs not attacked Israel when it was a budding nation, there would not be all these issues we see today. But carry on with your agenda.

 

[HalBass9]

Who attacked Israel when it was formed? Who wanted to destroy Israel the day it formed? Who lost the war? Who lost the territory?
You will get all your answers. But you want to concentrate on irrelevant things like Emblems and signs.

Formed against the wishes of its inhabitants for over thousands of years by the colonists European zionists.

We get it, you support the genocide and ethnic cleansing.

The greater Israel project isn't irrelevant neither your excuse for a genocide and ethnic cleansing.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Formed against the wishes of its inhabitants for over thousands of years by the colonists European zionists.

We get it, you support the genocide and ethnic cleansing.

The greater Israel project isn't irrelevant neither your excuse for a genocide and ethnic cleansing.

The minority Jewish population then wanted a separate Jewish nation. The majority Arab population did not agree to it. Britain divided the land between the two. Arabs attacked Israel and the rest is we all know what happened.
No one is supporting genocide. Both sides want to eliminate each other. If Hamas had better weapons, they would have finished off Israel long ago. Arabs tried it many times and failed miserably each time and lost more and more territory.
But the one side narrative of Israel committing genocide is rubbish. That whole area was under occupation for thousands of years by some foreign power or the other. Whoever had the might ruled that land. It is still the case. Accept and move on. They can fight if they don’t like the situation. But when they lose, they can’t cry genocide and murders.

 

[HalBass9]

The minority Jewish population then wanted a separate Jewish nation. The majority Arab population did not agree to it. Britain divided the land between the two. Arabs attacked Israel and the rest is we all know what happened.
No one is supporting genocide. Both sides want to eliminate each other. If Hamas had better weapons, they would have finished off Israel long ago. Arabs tried it many times and failed miserably each time and lost more and more territory.
But the one side narrative of Israel committing genocide is rubbish. That whole area was under occupation for thousands of years by some foreign power or the other. Whoever had the might ruled that land. It is still the case. Accept and move on. They can fight if they don’t like the situation. But when they lose, they can’t cry genocide and murders.

Lol.

Currently, the only side engaging in genocide and ethnic cleansing is the army bearing the official emblem of a greater Israel. Meanwhile, you are struggling to justify these actions while accusing the surviving group, who are resisting and fighting for a dignified life, of the genocide.

Hamas was created recently, the greater Israel been building settlement since 1948

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The minority Jewish population then wanted a separate Jewish nation. The majority Arab population did not agree to it. Britain divided the land between the two. Arabs attacked Israel and the rest is we all know what happened.
No one is supporting genocide. Both sides want to eliminate each other. If Hamas had better weapons, they would have finished off Israel long ago. Arabs tried it many times and failed miserably each time and lost more and more territory.
But the one side narrative of Israel committing genocide is rubbish. That whole area was under occupation for thousands of years by some foreign power or the other. Whoever had the might ruled that land. It is still the case. Accept and move on. They can fight if they don’t like the situation. But when they lose, they can’t cry genocide and murders.

It would be better if you just said might is right and stopped trying to justify it with morality. At least that way we could take your argument seriously. israel's might has been heavily dependent on western support, you even allude to this when you say Britain divided the land.

Might is right is self explanatory, but can work both ways. Israelis are always worried about being wiped out, but I believe that if the shoe is on the other foot, the Arabs will distinguish between the military and the civilians and won't target women and children like the israelis have done.

 

[Farhan The Man]

I believe that if the shoe is on the other foot, the Arabs will distinguish between the military and the civilians and won't target women and children like the israelis have done.

Your arab belief system is dodgy.

If muslims do this to their own women and children, their barbarism is exponentially worse with non-muslim targets.

The Halabja massacre took place in Iraqi Kurdistan on 16 March 1988, when thousands of Kurds were killed by a large-scale Iraqi chemical attack. A targeted attack in Halabja, it was carried out during the Anfal campaign, which was led by Iraqi military officer Ali Hassan al-Majid.​

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Halabja massacre - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[HalBass9]

Your arab belief system is dodgy.

If muslims do this to their own women and children, their barbarism is exponentially worse with non-muslim targets.

The Halabja massacre took place in Iraqi Kurdistan on 16 March 1988, when thousands of Kurds were killed by a large-scale Iraqi chemical attack. A targeted attack in Halabja, it was carried out during the Anfal campaign, which was led by Iraqi military officer Ali Hassan al-Majid.​

​

Halabja massacre - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

LOL.

Your head is so far up in the rear end of 'whataboutism' that you forgot to read the comment properly.

Let's condemn the current genocide without doing what about ...lol

 

[HalBass9]

Either - but if you live on 3 dollars a day like most of your countrymen that might be hard for you

Why do you insist on belittling people based on how they make a living? That’s some peak arrogance, exactly what you'd expect from someone who's had everything handed to them and still thinks they’re better than everyone else.

 

[HalBass9]

I am showing empathy by not accepting what he's offering if it'll cost him his daily wage. That's peak concern.

No, you're just projecting because you can't handle criticism and have no way to counter it without completely exposing yourself.

Anyways, enjoy your time here.

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

No, you're just projecting because you can't handle criticism and have no way to counter it without completely exposing yourself.

Anyways, enjoy your time here.

What criticism? It's not my fault if you can't feel empathy. I have been taught to show empathy and when I see our brother @Bhaag Viru Bhaag who proudly proclaimed he was Indian when he was spamming our time pass section, I just wanted to look out for him. Let's be empathetic and it is the duty of BVB to also speak out against this and not just post Alam emojis everywhere.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

What criticism? It's not my fault if you can't feel empathy. I have been taught to show empathy and when I see our brother @Bhaag Viru Bhaag who proudly proclaimed he was Indian when he was spamming our time pass section, I just wanted to look out for him. Let's be empathetic and it is the duty of BVB to also speak out against this and not just post Alam emojis everywhere.

Lol at duty

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Palestinian President Abbas fires official who criticised him for ending ‘martyrs’ fund’​

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has fired an official who criticised his decision to end a system that paid stipends to the families of prisoners, including those convicted of deadly attacks against Israelis.

Abbas announced the replacement of Qadura Fares as head of the Palestinian Prisoner’s Society (PPS) without providing an explanation.

Last week, Abbas put an end to what was known as the “martyrs’ fund”, acquiescing to longstanding demands by the United States and Israel.

Many Palestinians viewed the payments as compensation for people harmed in the course of their struggle against Israeli military rule.

The Hamas movement, which drove Abbas’s forces from Gaza in 2007, criticised Fares’s firing, saying it reflected the “oppression and exclusion” practiced by the authority and its “submission to Zionist and American dictates”.

Source: Al Jazeera

 

[The Bald Eagle]

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[Aang_The_last_airbender]

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I find it ironic that how the blame is easily shifted to those in powers. One would assume being blessed with thee true answers from God and being led on the right path, the masses should automatically being leading the world in the right path. It's always the ruler's fault. Billion+ righteous people but none walking the right path because of the "rulers".

 

[The Bald Eagle]

I find it ironic that how the blame is easily shifted to those in powers. One would assume being blessed with thee true answers from God and being led on the right path, the masses should automatically being leading the world in the right path. It's always the ruler's fault. Billion+ righteous people but none walking the right path because of the "rulers".

The people will end the apartheid state soon but God knows when

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

The people will end the apartheid state soon but God knows when

Honestly, Israel-Palestine issue is a wonderful red herring for the Islamic world. No trolling here man.
Islamic countries are literally in the bottom percentile of almost all parameters. Hardly any of them is growing or is stable. Name me one Islamic country which is not under a dictatorship or has not had coups. Its a small tract of land in a far corner of the earth. Does anyone care about Pakistan's calls on Kashmir? Hardly any. But for Palestine, its easy to blame the original evil "Jew" and the Muslims world over lap it up. Muslims dying by the millions in Syria, Yemen, Iraq, Sudan, Somalia, to Nigeria, no one cares. Without the oil, would Muslim world have had any relevance at all in modern world?

Its easy to find a villain in "the Jew" over a tiny tiny piece of land and fool nearly 2 billion Muslims of the world about what matters to them directly.

Now some troll, will jump in "Look an Indian talking about being the bottom percentile".

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Its countries like yours who love these Arab leaders...otherwise it's right they need democracy.

These leaders have billion for some investment and aids hungry countries but still don't use this influence for betterment ofuslim world. Pity

Honestly, Israel-Palestine issue is a wonderful red herring for the Islamic world. No trolling here man.
Islamic countries are literally in the bottom percentile of almost all parameters. Hardly any of them is growing or is stable. Name me one Islamic country which is not under a dictatorship or has not had coups. Its a small tract of land in a far corner of the earth. Does anyone care about Pakistan's calls on Kashmir? Hardly any. But for Palestine, its easy to blame the original evil "Jew" and the Muslims world over lap it up. Muslims dying by the millions in Syria, Yemen, Iraq, Sudan, Somalia, to Nigeria, no one cares. Without the oil, would Muslim world have had any relevance at all in modern world?

Its easy to find a villain in "the Jew" over a tiny tiny piece of land and fool nearly 2 billion Muslims of the world about what matters to them directly.

Now some troll, will jump in "Look an Indian talking about being the bottom percentile".

 

[deltexas]

The people will end the apartheid state soon but God knows when

If that's theirs or your belief, so be it. Most normal folks want a normal life when they are alive and have good happy life . Nobody cares about 100 years down the line.

 

[deltexas]

Honestly, Israel-Palestine issue is a wonderful red herring for the Islamic world. No trolling here man.
Islamic countries are literally in the bottom percentile of almost all parameters. Hardly any of them is growing or is stable. Name me one Islamic country which is not under a dictatorship or has not had coups. Its a small tract of land in a far corner of the earth. Does anyone care about Pakistan's calls on Kashmir? Hardly any. But for Palestine, its easy to blame the original evil "Jew" and the Muslims world over lap it up. Muslims dying by the millions in Syria, Yemen, Iraq, Sudan, Somalia, to Nigeria, no one cares. Without the oil, would Muslim world have had any relevance at all in modern world?

Its easy to find a villain in "the Jew" over a tiny tiny piece of land and fool nearly 2 billion Muslims of the world about what matters to them directly.

Now some troll, will jump in "Look an Indian talking about being the bottom percentile".

The illusion , the mirage of the Islamic Ummah which the Arab nations dont care about. And honestly why should they ? Not their problem. Palestine rejected multiple 2 state peace offers. River to sea, want whole of Israel. Sorry, not happening .

And as you said - "millions" of Muslims dead in the above countries, but eerie silence on it. Why ? Because the perpetrators are from the same religion. Get to the table, discuss a 2 state deal and have a peaceful life. But no.. Want war , want whole of Israel. If thats the case, then sorry they have to reap the consequences with innocents getting killed.