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2nd time, no world cup appearence. Does Arsenal need to take a step in rebuilding by dispatching some of it's under preformers. Walcott has been a dissapointment this season with occasional preformances, but it is probably time for him and a few others to move on and play for teams that would suit their level, because the once high standard of Arsenal FC has declined in the past few years.
 
I dont rate him as a 'Top 4' team player

Has a bit of pace & is good when going direct on goal. Doesnt have to many tricks.

So many say he is developing. Owen & Rooney. Thats what I call development - come onto the scene as a teen & non-stop progression from there.
 
Well if they sell him how much money are they going to get and who will they spend this money on. Will it allow them to buy a better player. That is what they should consider. Who will they get to replace him i don't know so whats the point in selling
 
I don't think he is a winger. He is a bit more blunt but I seen he gets more confused due to the Wenger philosophy on how to play. Trying to work it in. I think he would succeed more in a striker role or another team.
 
I don't know to be honest,

Last season he was a t stage where he was starting to show what he is capable of, he was starting to show his potential but then suddenly he suffered injuries - dislocated shoulder/knee injury/hamstring which affected him alot.

I say give him 1 more season - and see what he can do, because right now he seems to be a person who has pace but doesn't know how to use it, basically he hasn't got a footballer's brain - it looks like he should be running along with bolt then playing football for arsenal.

Also if arsenal fans want to see the best of him then he must be used a central forward - poacher - him being played on the wing is a complete waste of time.

Also after not being selected for the wcup - it's going to be a major blow to his confidence - but I have faith in the boy - people forget he's only 21/22 so he can only get better.

Just give the boy 1 more season - because wenger spending 10mill is quite alot.
 
As others have said he should not play as a Wenger BUT he needs to be picked as a forward - when he was signed his style of play was likened to Henry and thats where he needs to play BUT he lacks a footballing brain at the moment

I think what he needs is a run of games in a set position - instead of selling him I think Arsenal should send him on loan to a club that would be willing to play him every game and in a position that Arsenal would like him to play
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
As others have said he should not play as a Wenger BUT he needs to be picked as a forward - when he was signed his style of play was likened to Henry and thats where he needs to play BUT he lacks a footballing brain at the moment

I think what he needs is a run of games in a set position - instead of selling him I think Arsenal should send him on loan to a club that would be willing to play him every game and in a position that Arsenal would like him to play
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Hilarious Freudian slip there :p

As for your solution, what PL team would guarantee him as a striker? Only one I can think of is Blackpool but it would be unfair on their promoted boys. It would be pointless to send him to Championship, he is too good for that now.
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
I think what he needs is a run of games in a set position - instead of selling him I think Arsenal should send him on loan to a club that would be willing to play him every game and in a position that Arsenal would like him to play
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Cardiff would be perfectt! Him, Bellamy, Chopra [drool]
 
Amir said:
Hilarious Freudian slip there :p

As for your solution, what PL team would guarantee him as a striker? Only one I can think of is Blackpool but it would be unfair on their promoted boys. It would be pointless to send him to Championship, he is too good for that now.
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Trust me plenty sides would - anyone from positions 8 downwards, though some clubs like Blakckburn/Stoke would be a no no since he isnt 9ft 6
 
Theo should be sold or should give up football and stick to being a atheletics runner.

Hes been useless 90% of time at Arsenal and its time he was shipped out!
 
He needs a season or two with a different and maybe English speaking manager.
 
Rana said:
He needs a season or two with a different and maybe English speaking manager.
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Maybe he should play for a smaller club like spurs :)
 
Amjid Javed said:
Maybe he should play for a smaller club like spurs :)
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I doubt he would get in the starting line-up for them as well. If Joe cole decides to come to Arsenal, then Redknapp might as well have him.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Maybe he should play for a smaller club like spurs :)
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Spurs already have Lennon, who not only can run about as fast, but can also actually play some football!
 
d0gers said:
Spurs already have Lennon, who not only can run about as fast, but can also actually play some football!
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That is probably the reason he wont go there, maybe Wenger and Redknapp should swap Walcott for Lennon.
 
d0gers said:
Spurs already have Lennon, who not only can run about as fast, but can also actually play some football!
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Id be happy with that swap! :14:
 
I think he is still pretty useful as an impact substitution - Milan, Barcelona, Liverpool etc - but he may not be willing to take such a 'backward' step.

In all this time, I don't think he has improved as a footballer. Sure he can run fast, and is direct in his approach play, but sometimes he hinders rather than helps Arsenal's cause.

I would still keep him in all honesty, and put this poor season down to injuries. However, he isn't guaranteed a starting berth for next season, and if he has another poor season, well then that would justify Wenger's philosphy of buying young foreign players (aswell as mediocre old french players - Cygan, Silvestre, Senderos (can speak French) and Almunia (must have something french about him to be a forerunner for the captaincy next year, when he shouldn't even be playing for the reserves).
 
Theo_14 said:
Just give the boy 1 more season - because wenger spending 10mill is quite alot.
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... And look at the things Walcott produced during that one particular season. :14:

Statiscally he's been one of Arsenal's best players and has improved alot since the poor season he had during 2009-10, he looks more confident and looks far more comfortable on the right wing.

The end product to his promising runs and crosses might not have been shown consistently but apart from that, he's looked very good out there and is certainly a key player for Arsenal now.

Should we sell him? No. :p
 
Theo_14 said:
... And look at the things Walcott produced during that one particular season. :14:

Statiscally he's been one of Arsenal's best players and has improved alot since the poor season he had during 2009-10, he looks more confident and looks far more comfortable on the right wing.

The end product to his promising runs and crosses might not have been shown consistently but apart from that, he's looked very good out there and is certainly a key player for Arsenal now.

Should we sell him? No. :p
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Its funny how things change in Arsenal FC so quickly.
 
The kid is overrated :amin has got the footballing brain of a fish and isnt consistent enough.

IMO the reason he isnt consistent enough is because when a game is tactical and close such as on a "Grand slam sunday" etc, he fails to make an impact as defenders will have full concentration on defending and not getting forward as much. However when a game is open he can use his pace to great effect, still the same could have been said about a certain Ryan Babel.

Nani has developed whereas Walcott hasnt lived up to the hype as yet. :iamlegend
 
Looks like you're still living in last summer.

Theo has had a very good season. He is not the strongest player technically or awareness wise, but, he has improved his end product a lot and is a reliable finisher now. As far as big games are concerned, Theo is one of the few Arsenal players who is actually a threat in big games.

Arsenal have an abysmal record in the last couple of years against big teams, but, Theo has performed against Chelsea, Milan and Barcelona, a few games where we've actually done well against big teams. In fact, performance against the big sides is one of the positives of Theo.

His injury proneness hurt him again, but, he was in the top three most productive players last season (goals + assists / minutes) in the Premier League along with Nani and Van Persie. He's just turned 22 despite being around for ages and that is a really good record for someone his age.
 
Walcott is always injured and i think he should take up athletics and try and qualify for the 100metre final in the 2012 olympics.

Bale and Lennon are 10 times better than Walcott, They have the final ball and don't run around like headless chickens, they have control over the ball.

Good Sub but nothing more.
 
PakFan2010 said:
Walcott is always injured and i think he should take up athletics and try and qualify for the 100metre final in the 2012 olympics.

Bale and Lennon are 10 times better than Walcott, They have the final ball and don't run around like headless chickens, they have control over the ball.

Good Sub but nothing more.
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Premier League Stats -10/11

Aaron Lennon - 25 starts + 9 sub = 3 goals + 2 assists

Gareth Bale - 29 starts + 1 sub = 7 goals + 1 assist

Theo Walcott - 19 starts + 9 sub = 9 goals + 7 assists

Ahem, ahem...

Can you repeat that point about end product again? I didn't quite catch that.
 
he's finally shown some class, can't sell him now.
 
Dr. Schaden Freud said:
Premier League Stats -10/11

Aaron Lennon - 25 starts + 9 sub = 3 goals + 2 assists

Gareth Bale - 29 starts + 1 sub = 7 goals + 1 assist

Theo Walcott - 19 starts + 9 sub = 9 goals + 7 assists

Ahem, ahem...

Can you repeat that point about end product again? I didn't quite catch that.
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Tottenham have some really bad strikers compared to Arsenal. The wingers don't get direct assists because they cross it to Crouch and he heads it onto Van Der Vaart to finish.

Walcott is a flat track bully, just like Berbatov.

He won't do anything in the big games but when your playing Blackpool at Home then he will contribrute.

Stats don't tell the story, Ask any manager in world football, Who would they rather have Gareth Bale or Theo Walcott.

They will give you an answer, When Walcott scores a hat trick was the Europeon Champions and torments the Best RB in the world then come back to this thread.

Don't come out with that Inter Side was Mourinho's. The Inter defense conceded 2 goals to Barca in 180 Minutes. Mourinho's Madrid side got smashed 5-0 and lost 2-0 at home.

Tottenham scored 6 goals in 180 Minutes vs Inter Milan.

Don't come out with the Schalke scoreline cause Samuel and Lucio were not playing.
 
PakFan2010 said:
Tottenham have some really bad strikers compared to Arsenal. The wingers don't get direct assists because they cross it to Crouch and he heads it onto Van Der Vaart to finish.

Walcott is a flat track bully, just like Berbatov.

He won't do anything in the big games but when your playing Blackpool at Home then he will contribrute.

Stats don't tell the story, Ask any manager in world football, Who would they rather have Gareth Bale or Theo Walcott.

They will give you an answer, When Walcott scores a hat trick was the Europeon Champions and torments the Best RB in the world then come back to this thread.

Don't come out with that Inter Side was Mourinho's. The Inter defense conceded 2 goals to Barca in 180 Minutes. Mourinho's Madrid side got smashed 5-0 and lost 2-0 at home.

Tottenham scored 6 goals in 180 Minutes vs Inter Milan.

Don't come out with the Schalke scoreline cause Samuel and Lucio were not playing.
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Walcott, the flat track bully, has scored against Milan in Champions League quarterfinals, Chelsea in Carling Cup final, Chelsea in FA Cup semifinal, Barcelona in Champions League quarterfinal and most recently, against Chelsea in the Premier League where he scored one and assisted one.

Walcott has scored an international hat-trick against Croatia in a stadium where they were unbeaten.
 
I have never said that Walcott is a better player than Bale.

So, stop putting words in my mouth. But, Bale is not "10 times better" nor is Walcott a headless chicken with no end product like you stated.

If Walcott ends up getting more goals and more assists than the great 10 times better Gareth Bale in the same league having played lesser number of matches, surely, he is doing something right?
 
Walcott had his best season in terms of goals and assists. However he still has alot to prove as a player and wenger needs to start playing him as a striker through the middle rather then wasting him on the wing.
 
I feel that his current position is his best position. May be a move to left would help.

I can't really see him as a striker unless we change to 4-4-2, chances of which are very bleak in long term given that we have two brilliant young players in Ramsey and Wilshere who would make a three man midfield essential.
 
I believe that Walcott will never have that 25+goal season in the premier league. But im certain that he would be more effective than Pedro if he ever does play for Barcelona.
 
PakFan2010 said:
Walcott is always injured and i think he should take up athletics and try and qualify for the 100metre final in the 2012 olympics.

Bale and Lennon are 10 times better than Walcott, They have the final ball and don't run around like headless chickens, they have control over the ball.

Good Sub but nothing more.
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When the stats show you up you then move the goalposts

Walcott has the end product, in fact Walcott has more end product than Bale and Lennon combined
 
Walcott is wastefull and is being wasted out wide. He has been begging for several months to be tried out in the central forward position BUT it looks like Wenger won't use him in the position where we are likely to see the best out of Walcott.

He has a year or two left on his contract - I wouldn't be surprised IF he leaves, the player wants to play upfront and wants trophies - two things which he won't be getting IMO, this is what he can do IF we use him in a striker position..........

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i still don't get why a world class manger like Wenger fails to recognise the fact Theo can't cross for ****. he runs at you at pace thats about it.

For me Theo is at its best in the number 10 role behind the striker so he can run at defenders.

He was meant to be Englands next Rooney but his carreer has been a let down till now.

I had huge expectations from him and Aron Lennon unfortunately they have let me down till now.
 
Cant cross, no end product, finishing and composure is hit and miss.

In regards to his development its been very slow and hes been a let down overall.
 
hopefully oxlade will keep theo on his toes and force him to improve!
 
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sully3 said:
I had huge expectations from him and Aron Lennon unfortunately they have let me down till now.
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Sad but true.

Capello is a big fan of pacey wide wingers BUT Lennon and Walcott have failed to produce the kind of performances which Capello had hoped for.

However Young is one player to keep an eye on - he has pace on him, also he certainly doesn't lack a "footballing brain" + combines well with Rooney.

Surley Young has the left wing position all to himself [for England]?
 
Theo_14 said:
However Young is one player to keep an eye on - he has pace on him, also he certainly doesn't lack a "footballing brain" + combines well with Rooney.

Surley Young has the left wing position all to himself [for England]?
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Certainly for me Young has been the best winger in the country this season alongside nani. He is probably the only inform English midfielder this season and would be one of the 1st names on my team sheet. Unfortunately the lack of good second striker to play alongside Rooney for England might mean we will see young play as a second striker with Downing on the left.
 
Walcott needs to be played as a striker and then we will see his best performances..........
 
attock said:
Walcott needs to be played as a striker and then we will see his best performances..........
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The only way we will see him playing as a central forward is... In a classical 4-4-2 formattion.

Oxlade is a technical player who naturally plays as a central midfielder - but the boy has been blessed with sheer pace which not many playmakers tend to have these days, this gives Wenger the option to use him as a winger, and one thing is for sure...

Oxlade and even Ryo Miyaichi don't lack a footballing brain - and can utilise their pace much better then Walcott.

I can see Walcott leaving Arsenal soon, only has a year or two left on his contract, I think.
 
Several years on and the same question is being asked.

Will Walcott ever repay Arsenal for their years (and tens of millions) of investment in him?
 
If there is no space for him to run in behind he literally useless. He hasn't got the dribbling skill and doesn't have a great cross. Also he hides and doesn't want the ball. His work rate is questionable at times I wouldn't have a problem if he is sold as long as he is replaced.

Should be dropped for our next game as he wont be sold.
 
Still the same useless player he has been for last 4/5 seasons, sadly there is no chance of wenger getting rid of such rubbish players, teams like liverpool and west ham showed an interest and he should have been sold and a better replacement brought in
 
Wenger lets go of Joel Campbell who did more during last season that what Walcott has done in his entire career. Just goes to show what a clueless manager Wenger is.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Still the same useless player he has been for last 4/5 seasons, sadly there is no chance of wenger getting rid of such rubbish players, teams like liverpool and west ham showed an interest and he should have been sold and a better replacement brought in
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Which better replacement? you need atleast £50m to buy a decent winger in this market, anything under that will be a gamble like we took with Depay.
 
PetroDollars said:
Which better replacement? you need atleast £50m to buy a decent winger in this market, anything under that will be a gamble like we took with Depay.
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Arsenal could have easily paid 40-45m for Mahrez if Wenger wasn't so kanjoos.
 
Looks like Southampton want him back.

Southampton want to use the first chunk of their Virgil van Dijk cash on taking Theo Walcott back to St Mary’s.

They have asked Arsenal whether he is available in January and want to do a deal either on loan or a permanent transfer and hope that Walcott wants to move.

Southampton , flush with £75m after selling van Dijk to Liverpool, are ready to meet Walcott’s £140,000-a-week wages but face competition with Everton and West Ham also keen.
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/southampton-eye-theo-walcott-return-11763775
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Southampton, Everton, Watford and West Ham have all been linked with Theo Walcott in today's papers.<br><br>&#55357;&#56798; <a href="https://t.co/RueniRSVBg">https://t.co/RueniRSVBg</a> <a href="https://t.co/Sq1qR4yhtw">pic.twitter.com/Sq1qR4yhtw</a></p>— BBC Sport (@BBCSport) <a href="https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/947783264818941952?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 1, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Didn't know how old this thread was. He's been taught by arsenal wenger.

Milking arsenal.

I thought iwobe would be a really good player - he looks like he's going the same direction along with welbeck.

Tbf arsenal have a load of above average players. Tbh looks like lacazette, kalasanic ozil and sanchez - are top players.

The rest seem average or above average players
 
We need to sell Walcott, Xhaka, Sanchez and Bellerin. These four have not been playing with passion or pride and the club so they deserve to leave in addition to not being good enough. We need to buy a new CDM and another world-class striker and maybe another midfielder, Wenger needs to spend big money in this transfer window but I have very low expectations on him spending money on new players.
 
ExplicitAI said:
We need to sell Walcott, Xhaka, Sanchez and Bellerin. These four have not been playing with passion or pride and the club so they deserve to leave in addition to not being good enough. We need to buy a new CDM and another world-class striker and maybe another midfielder, Wenger needs to spend big money in this transfer window but I have very low expectations on him spending money on new players.
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Xhaka is a good player. We aren't using him correctly. How he needs to be used is in a 3 man midfield with legs and athletiscm around him. Currently he is having to defend , get into the box,and win the ball back. If we can get him to concentrate on distributing the ball you will see how good a player he is. Look at how well he does for Switzerland.

On Bellerin, I think he is out form. He will come good but if he wants to leave and we get a decent offer we should sell .

Our fans are being too harsh on Xhaka and Bellerin. In recent games they haven't been that bad. But as soon as they make a mistake , fans are assuming they have been absolutely disastrous which hasn't been the case. Our fanbase always have to hate on certain players.
 
Yes we should sell Theo. He needs a change. Also he doesn't fit in a 3-5-2 formation as he can't play in small spaces. He just hasn't developed.
 


Ain't no Grave that can hold Wenger's body down #WengerIN :))
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Rana said:
2nd time, no world cup appearence. Does Arsenal need to take a step in rebuilding by dispatching some of it's under preformers. Walcott has been a dissapointment this season with occasional preformances, but it is probably time for him and a few others to move on and play for teams that would suit their level, because the once high standard of Arsenal FC has declined in the past few years.
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The whole British core was a recipe for disaster - Wenger was so influenced by the old concepts of loyalty and traditional values, he screwed the club in the process. His biggest denial was to persist with Walcott, and thinking he would make him into an Henry, he played Walcott 2 seasons as a central striker, whenever I hear this I can't help but laugh, Walcott has played many a big games as a central striker and I can't fathom to belive someone like Wenger thought he could pull this off. Had he got a striker back when we were over-relying on Giroud, we would have been a much better team.

This is the biggest reason for Wenger's decline. He made a few realizations about his tactical deficienices a bit too late. He has made a few signings a bit too late. Arsenal has been crying for an out an out no.10 for so long. If he has realized this back in 10/11, built on a team already consisting of Nasri, Fabregas, Van persie, he would've atleast added one more title to his lineup.
 
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Ain't no Grave that can hold Wenger's body down #WengerIN :))
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I wouldn't be surprised if Wenger extended his stay beyond his current deal.
 
Hasan123 said:
I wouldn't be surprised if Wenger extended his stay beyond his current deal.
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He runs your club like a business, as long as he's bringing in $$$$ consistently results in the grand scheme are irrelevant. If Arsenal fans hurt the club in the pocket then maybe change will come otherwise I don't see it
 
Hasan123 said:
Xhaka is a good player. We aren't using him correctly. How he needs to be used is in a 3 man midfield with legs and athletiscm around him. Currently he is having to defend , get into the box,and win the ball back. If we can get him to concentrate on distributing the ball you will see how good a player he is. Look at how well he does for Switzerland.

On Bellerin, I think he is out form. He will come good but if he wants to leave and we get a decent offer we should sell .

Our fans are being too harsh on Xhaka and Bellerin. In recent games they haven't been that bad. But as soon as they make a mistake , fans are assuming they have been absolutely disastrous which hasn't been the case. Our fanbase always have to hate on certain players.
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We still can't decide what type of player Xhaka is; is he a box-to-box? Defensive Mid or an Attacking Mid? The guy has had no improvement since he came in and the first players name that comes out of my mouth when the team plays horribly is Xhaka. He loses possession of the ball too many times and the goal he scored against Liverpool was a lucky one because Mignolet missed.

Bellerin was one of my favourite players but he's been out of form for so long I do think he needs to be benched but he can't since we don't have a replacement for him. I wouldn't count myself as a fan that hates every player because I'm one of those few who say that Giroud is an excellent player for Arsenal and losing him would be a tragedy.
 
ExplicitAI said:
We still can't decide what type of player Xhaka is; is he a box-to-box? Defensive Mid or an Attacking Mid? The guy has had no improvement since he came in and the first players name that comes out of my mouth when the team plays horribly is Xhaka. He loses possession of the ball too many times and the goal he scored against Liverpool was a lucky one because Mignolet missed.

Bellerin was one of my favourite players but he's been out of form for so long I do think he needs to be benched but he can't since we don't have a replacement for him. I wouldn't count myself as a fan that hates every player because I'm one of those few who say that Giroud is an excellent player for Arsenal and losing him would be a tragedy.
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I have just told you what Xhakas nest position is. Wenger is the one who is making you question his best position because he is playing him out of position.

We should keep Bellerin but we need to sign another RB for the sake of competition.
 
shaz619 said:
He runs your club like a business, as long as he's bringing in $$$$ consistently results in the grand scheme are irrelevant. If Arsenal fans hurt the club in the pocket then maybe change will come otherwise I don't see it
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We aren't in the champions league and any players he does sell he doesn't seem to get the max value out of them. Our main revenue stream is tv money and from matchday revenue . Neither which Wenger controls. So he's not even making us as much money as he has.

Hope he steps down at the end of the year.
 
Looks like he's headed to Everton!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Aaron Lennon when he see’s Theo Walcott at the Everton training ground... <a href="https://t.co/QhZU4S4frF">pic.twitter.com/QhZU4S4frF</a></p>— ODDSbible (@ODDSbible) <a href="https://twitter.com/ODDSbible/status/953254197192949760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 16, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Another Southampton flop

Llalana
Walcott
Chamberlain
Luke Shaw
Lambert
Schneiderlin
Lovren

The south coast has been raided constantly but none of the acadamee has really shone on the big screen after there big moves.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Happy to confirm I have today joined <a href="https://twitter.com/Everton?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@everton</a> &#55357;&#56629;⚪ <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EFC?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#EFC</a> <a href="https://t.co/BSoTJgRXq2">pic.twitter.com/BSoTJgRXq2</a></p>— Theo Walcott (@theowalcott) <a href="https://twitter.com/theowalcott/status/953676372047777797?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 17, 2018</a></blockquote>
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I still vividly remember watching Walcott hit a stunning hat-trick vs Croatia about 10 years ago and thought 'wow this kid is going to go on and do huge things for club and country'. Sadly I way off the mark. Hope he manages to turn his career around at Everton.
 
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