There is no country as safe as India: Virender Sehwag

[cricketjoshila]

If we go by cricketjoshillas logic then, terrorism that happens in India is indias problem and pakistan shouldnt be blamed.

Because the attacks happen in india and its indias responsibilty to stop them. It doesnt matter who trains them because once they enter india, no one should be concerned with what happens inside india as they could handle it and its their own concerns.

Thus shouldnt that terrorism be thir own concerns, why go after pakistan for the terrorism... - See more at: http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...ng-intolerance-level-on&p=9255723#post9255723

[MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION]

This is in reply to your post in the other forum. It is the responsibility of any country to stop its citizens from doing anything that adversely effects a foreign country. So any Pakistani who is supporting or carrying out illegal activity be it terrorism or otherwise is also Pakistan's responsibility.

How is what Sehwag said effecting Pakistan?

How is any Indian praising India or Indian Army effecting Pakistan?

How is anything that happens inside India and among Indians and not affecting Pakistan any problem of pakistan?

 

[Waseem]

Can't believe that we had 83 posts of discussing how Indian celebs are not supposed to praise their country.

As i said above, he is not praising his country but taking a dig at Pakistan. Did you read the actual post?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Guys i am not really sure why some people are so upset about this thread.

A girl goes to Pakistan to marry someone without her family's knowledge, leaves her daughter behind. She finds out the life is not a Bollywood movie and realises the blunder she made. The guy she married could well be cruel but the girl is equally responsible for her blunders. She returns home making all sort of stupid statement about Pakistan and Sehwag uses her statements to say India is safest country DIRECTLY in response to this girl's cheap shots at Pakistan but Pakistanis shouldn't even discuss the issue?

The fact that lot of people helped the girl (as admitted by Sushma), there was no need to take these cheap shots. Somehow some people think it's unfair we are even disucssing Sehwag's statement?

What did the Islamabad High Court say?why did the court had to order the husband to submit the Passport and other documents of the lady? If the lady wanted to leave and come back to India why was her husband stopping her?

Is what her husband saying the gospel truth?she fell in love went to meet the guy at her house in Pakistan.She never denied that.The point is what happened after that.Was she coerced into marrying the guy?Was she tortured? By your logic if someone falls in love with someone and goes to meet him in his house then whatever happens to her no matter how bad is her responsibility.

Sehwag welcomed an Indian citizen back home who claimed that she had a horrific experience.we can all debate the truth behind that woman's statements because that is made againist Pakistan.But Sehwag welcoming her home and saying she is safest in her home is nothing wrong, unless ofcourse you want to bash Indians for praising their country,which you actually did.

 

[Major]

Where did he says Army can rape?Is it your own delusion?

You obvioulsy dont understand when he says army has free hands to take decisions in a war like situations and we all know what happens in such situations

 

[cricketjoshila]

You obvioulsy dont understand when he says army has free hands to take decisions in a war like situations and we all know what happens in such situations

Which Army is not free to take decisions in War like Situations?

 

[Waseem]

What did the Islamabad High Court say?why did the court had to order the husband to submit the Passport and other documents of the lady? If the lady wanted to leave and come back to India why was her husband stopping her?

Is what her husband saying the gospel truth?she fell in love went to meet the guy at her house in Pakistan.She never denied that.The point is what happened after that.Was she coerced into marrying the guy?Was she tortured? By your logic if someone falls in love with someone and goes to meet him in his house then whatever happens to her no matter how bad is her responsibility.

Sehwag welcomed an Indian citizen back home who claimed that she had a horrific experience.we can all debate the truth behind that woman's statements because that is made againist Pakistan.But Sehwag welcoming her home and saying she is safest in her home is nothing wrong, unless ofcourse you want to bash Indians for praising their country,which you actually did.

As i said, the guy must be an idiot and deserves even life imprisonment if he married somoene at gunpoint but don't think for a second this girl is innocent victim. She came all the way on a purpose and realized her mistake, in the end it was an issue between 2 individuals.
If she takes cheap shots at the country she CHOSE to visit and now insulting due to personal issues then she will be criticised and so will Sehwag's tweets.

 

[ethan hunt]

Two of my Tinder dates i met in kolkata told me how Delhi was a terrible place for women and its not a place they would want to travel to because a lot of men in Delhi are uncivilised and dont know how to treat women with respect. Now these are the views of two indian nationals living in that very country in
conversation with a guy from Pakistan . Personally i found people in kolkata a lot more cultured in general . So its a bit ironic of Sehwag , who himself happens to be from Delhi .

Now the three big Pakistani cities are in no way heavens on Earth but you wont have people generally talking about Lahore , Islamabad or karachi the way fellow Indians talk about Delhi

I dont know the details to this story but the woman has some skeletons in her closet . Indian women falling in love or marrying a Pakistani isnt new , nor is it a crime but to leave your young daughter behind to live with your lover doesnt sound good (well she probably had her reasons ) . But a major lol at every Pakistani household having 2 or 3 wives . A claim like that would make anyone question her mental health . I hope we get the true version soon enough and everyone involved finds closure.

 

[big_gamer007]

Two of my Tinder dates i met in kolkata told me how Delhi was a terrible place for women and its not a place they would want to travel to because a lot of men in Delhi are uncivilised and dont know how to treat women with respect. Now these are the views of two indian nationals living in that very country in
conversation with a guy from Pakistan . Personally i found people in kolkata a lot more cultured in general . So its a bit ironic of Sehwag , who himself happens to be from Delhi .

Now the three big Pakistani cities are in no way heavens on Earth but you wont have people generally talking about Lahore , Islamabad or karachi the way fellow Indians talk about Delhi

I dont know the details to this story but the woman has some skeletons in her closet . Indian women falling in love or marrying a Pakistani isnt new , nor is it a crime but to leave your young daughter behind to live with your lover doesnt sound good (well she probably had her reasons ) . But a major lol at every Pakistani household having 2 or 3 wives . A claim like that would make anyone question her mental health . I hope we get the true version soon enough and everyone involved finds closure.

Lol Delhi is fine mate most of the crimes and other incidents which make women feel unsafe are due to the immigrants.. I was robbed once by armed robbers and when I went to file FIR the SHO told me 80% crime is done by immigrants from Bihar..

In evenings Delhi is very safe and a great place for women to live freely no immigrant or anyone else can say anything bad to a women in public, at night it becomes less safe..

 

[big_gamer007]

[MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] [MENTION=23613]90MPH[/MENTION]

I have been to few countries for short periods of time and if you ask my opinion I would also say India is the safest country in the world.. Why? Because I am Indian I have lived my life here and I feel at home and comfortable in other countries I feel like an alien and always have the fear of being an outsider..

I don't understand why you guys are so hellbent on continuing this discussion Sehwag's comments were totally just, he feels India is the safegst country in the world.. For him it is why do you guys care?? No offence but you guys are just showing your intolerance levels towards Indians and coming across as haters..

 

[big_gamer007]

As i said, the guy must be an idiot and deserves even life imprisonment if he married somoene at gunpoint but don't think for a second this girl is innocent victim. She came all the way on a purpose and realized her mistake, in the end it was an issue between 2 individuals.
If she takes cheap shots at the country she CHOSE to visit and now insulting due to personal issues then she will be criticised and so will Sehwag's tweets.

Sehwag's tweet was not against Pakistan, stop with your victim mentality that everything in this world an Indian says or does is against Pakistan.. He simply said India is safest country coz he's an Indian and feels that ways and welcomed the girl.. You guys are turning a non issue into sensational news or something.. Pretty poor from posters here but I guess everything here is India vs Pakistan..

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

[MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] [MENTION=23613]90MPH[/MENTION]

I have been to few countries for short periods of time and if you ask my opinion I would also say India is the safest country in the world.. Why? Because I am Indian I have lived my life here and I feel at home and comfortable in other countries I feel like an alien and always have the fear of being an outsider..

I don't understand why you guys are so hellbent on continuing this discussion Sehwag's comments were totally just, he feels India is the safegst country in the world.. For him it is why do you guys care?? No offence but you guys are just showing your intolerance levels towards Indians and coming across as haters..

So if it's not about Pakistan, which countries is he talking about when he declares India to be safest country in the world?

 

[big_gamer007]

So if it's not about Pakistan, which countries is he talking about when he declares India to be safest country in the world?

First of all you don't have to take his quote literally, he wouldn't know how safe the other 205 countries are without actually spending a substantial time in each of those countries.. Assuming there are 206 countries..

For him India is the safest country he has lived in India for 40+ years its his home and he feels comfortable.. I can totally relate to him since I feel the safest in my own country.. However good a foreign country might be but unless you stay there for long time you would always feel like it's alien place..

So it's not a dig at Pakistan or any other country, for you living in uk for past 20+ years might make uk the safest country but when I visited uk couple of times I always felt as if it's not home.. Not saying it's not safe but I am more comfortable in my own country and feel safer than anywhere else in the world.. That's basic human nature.. not sure why people are looking to read more to his tweet than actually there is..

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

First of all you don't have to take his quote literally, he wouldn't know how safe the other 205 countries are without actually spending a substantial time in each of those countries.. Assuming there are 206 countries..

For him India is the safest country he has lived in India for 40+ years its his home and he feels comfortable.. I can totally relate to him since I feel the safest in my own country.. However good a foreign country might be but unless you stay there for long time you would always feel like it's alien place..

So it's not a dig at Pakistan or any other country, for you living in uk for past 20+ years might make uk the safest country but when I visited uk couple of times I always felt as if it's not home.. Not saying it's not safe but I am more comfortable in my own country and feel safer than anywhere else in the world.. That's basic human nature.. not sure why people are looking to read more to his tweet than actually there is..

Just read his tweet and it is obviously a dig at Pakistan as in the same tweet he is mentioning Uzma's return from Pakistan. You can pretend otherwise, or perhaps you are assuming people here are as dim as Sehwag that they can't understand the obvious.

 

[big_gamer007]

Just read his tweet and it is obviously a dig at Pakistan as in the same tweet he is mentioning Uzma's return from Pakistan. You can pretend otherwise, or perhaps you are assuming people here are as dim as Sehwag that they can't understand the obvious.

You wanna see it how you wanna see it mate.. End of the day nowhere in his post he mentioned anything about Pakistan and he said safest country in the world which includes 205? Other countries.. Now you may perceive he was taking a dig at Pakistan, hate him for it and post comments online it won't make a difference to him..

Or you might believe he feels his country is the safest in the world for him and move on with your life..

Either way I am still not sure why his tweet about his sentiments about his country made news on PP and why Pakistanis here are taking digs at India and bringing in Kashmir/rapes and what not.. Online point scoring, trolling is becoming a norm here on PP it seems..

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

You wanna see it how you wanna see it mate.. End of the day nowhere in his post he mentioned anything about Pakistan and he said safest country in the world which includes 205? Other countries.. Now you may perceive he was taking a dig at Pakistan, hate him for it and post comments online it won't make a difference to him..

Or you might believe he feels his country is the safest in the world for him and move on with your life..

Either way I am still not sure why his tweet about his sentiments about his country made news on PP and why Pakistanis here are taking digs at India and bringing in Kashmir/rapes and what not.. Online point scoring, trolling is becoming a norm here on PP it seems..

Lol, you've got a nerve talking about online point scoring and trolling after one of your biggest sporting stars has been called out for doing exactly that.

 

[TM Riddle]

Just read his tweet and it is obviously a dig at Pakistan as in the same tweet he is mentioning Uzma's return from Pakistan. You can pretend otherwise, or perhaps you are assuming people here are as dim as Sehwag that they can't understand the obvious.

Come on capt even if it was a dig at Pakistan,its Sehwag we are talking about.He's a typical Jat from an underdeveloped part of Haryana.Just give the guy a friggin break.He probably doesn't even know what he's talking about.Why are you guys so hell bent on making this issue ind vs pak when it clearly isn't.

 

[big_gamer007]

Lol, you've got a nerve talking about online point scoring and trolling after one of your biggest sporting stars has been called out for doing exactly that.

First of all I am not responsible for what 1.3bill other Indians.. I don't know why you would think that all Indians are related or one is responsible.. If that was the case I can generalise and say you are not supposed to talk about anything remotely related to terrorism..

Anyways after the night I just had I would say I agree with you and take my words back India is safest country.. So you win..

 

[dauntless]

He is no. 1 jaahil I don't take him seriously and his jokes are just garbage and he is one of the so called "patriotic" hate him so much

 

[ahmedzee]

Crime rate will go down in Canada if it stops interfering in other country's matter and starts providing justice for it's own people's death quicker.

The way Canada had supported and taken time for the air India blast case not to forget the amount of active militants outfits it knew were running under it's nose is enough to say the least.

The culprit behind that attack was hiding in a gurdwara here. Issue is, in Canada, everyone have rights, and no one is allowed to bring forces in a place of worship, like it was done in the golden temple by Indira Gandhi. They waited for years until that culprit came out of the gurdwara, and he was arrested.
I still support this action. It would created a Sikh uprising if that was case.

In regards to crime rate, look how many gangs are there, and how many people were killed in Toronto and Vancouver, thanks to "punjabi mafia". Hence the rationale behind my first post.

 

[JaDed]

The culprit behind that attack was hiding in a gurdwara here. Issue is, in Canada, everyone have rights, and no one is allowed to bring forces in a place of worship, like it was done in the golden temple by Indira Gandhi. They waited for years until that culprit came out of the gurdwara, and he was arrested.
I still support this action. It would created a Sikh uprising if that was case.

In regards to crime rate, look how many gangs are there, and how many people were killed in Toronto and Vancouver, thanks to "punjabi mafia". Hence the rationale behind my first post.

Most of those "Punjabi Mafias" are massively anti-India,so yeah please Canada has done enough to sponsor their BS or not stop it take that up with Liberals and NDP ,also most of these Punjabi Gangsters are not allowed to travel to India.

And Canada's Punjabi bias from NDP and Liberals will one day create issues for itself if it doesn't keep a check on it,which I agree with you upon their gangs,politicians massive Punjabi PR ,but arguing on the principle of justice delayed is justice denied,wonder how English and Fresh origin Canadians felt about Air India Bombing and Canadians getting justice delayed because of something as hiding inside the holy place inspite of massive proof.

 

[ahmedzee]

Most of those "Punjabi Mafias" are massively anti-India,so yeah please Canada has done enough to sponsor their BS or not stop it take that up with Liberals and NDP ,also most of these Punjabi Gangsters are not allowed to travel to India.

And Canada's Punjabi bias from NDP and Liberals will one day create issues for itself if it doesn't keep a check on it,which I agree with you upon their gangs,politicians massive Punjabi PR ,but arguing on the principle of justice delayed is justice denied,wonder how English and Fresh origin Canadians felt about Air India Bombing and Canadians getting justice delayed because of something as hiding inside the holy place inspite of massive proof.

You do realize what happened in the aftermath of the golden temple attack? Why would Canada do something similar and bring problem upon itself. In the end, culprit was caught. He has to come out someday out of the gurdwara. I still support this decision, otherwise, had they taken the golden temple route, things would've been really messed up here, specially Vancouver and Toronto.

 

[JaDed]

You do realize what happened in the aftermath of the golden temple attack? Why would Canada do something similar and bring problem upon itself. In the end, culprit was caught. He has to come out someday out of the gurdwara. I still support this decision, otherwise, had they taken the golden temple route, things would've been really messed up here, specially Vancouver and Toronto.

There will be a difference on how things occur and not same way,Canada is a dream for most Punjabis they wouldn't go that way because they want to live there after going up from here,the ones who are gangsters will be that irrespective of it.
And maybe if Canada actually takes stricter action ,it won't be dealing with such Mafias and everyone will fall in line like in USA/Australia.

Canada's problem is it wants to act as a liberal face for the world inspite of being involved in multiple wars outside its borders,it takes liberalism to a unwanted level,if you don't believe go check the progress of Syrian Refugees and their "demands",irrespective of that your country,your rules whatever suits your people,stop blaming Indians if you want to give entry to gangsters from here and screen them rather.

 

[ahmedzee]

There will be a difference on how things occur and not same way,Canada is a dream for most Punjabis they wouldn't go that way because they want to live there after going up from here,the ones who are gangsters will be that irrespective of it.
And maybe if Canada actually takes stricter action ,it won't be dealing with such Mafias and everyone will fall in line like in USA/Australia.

Canada's problem is it wants to act as a liberal face for the world inspite of being involved in multiple wars outside its borders,it takes liberalism to a unwanted level,if you don't believe go check the progress of Syrian Refugees and their "demands",irrespective of that your country,your rules whatever suits your people,stop blaming Indians if you want to give entry to gangsters from here and screen them rather.

In regards to the syrian refugees, atleast they are taking them, in loads of numbers. If they can't find a job, atleast they ahve the basic necessities of life here in Canada like health care, education, etc.

Good news on mafias is, that it has been curbed a lot since the late 90s. Specially the Punjabis. Theyve been educating a lot of kids and I would go on and say its on the right track. As I mentioned above, it is irresponsible of any govt to go into a place of worship and arrest someone. India did that during Golden temple massacre. If the punjabis here hate India after that, then do you really blame them?

 

[JaDed]

In regards to the syrian refugees, atleast they are taking them, in loads of numbers. If they can't find a job, atleast they ahve the basic necessities of life here in Canada like health care, education, etc.

Good news on mafias is, that it has been curbed a lot since the late 90s. Specially the Punjabis. Theyve been educating a lot of kids and I would go on and say its on the right track. As I mentioned above, it is irresponsible of any govt to go into a place of worship and arrest someone. India did that during Golden temple massacre. If the punjabis here hate India after that, then do you really blame them?

I don't blame anyone if they hate India its their choice,what matters to me is other country used for sponsoring terrorism in mine and the government does nothing because clearly they were involved.(not anymore).

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

What a foolish post!!!

Can you do that in Islamabad or Lahore or Karachi?

This might be news to you but the answer is a resounding YES

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

Come on capt even if it was a dig at Pakistan,its Sehwag we are talking about.He's a typical Jat from an underdeveloped part of Haryana.Just give the guy a friggin break.He probably doesn't even know what he's talking about.Why are you guys so hell bent on making this issue ind vs pak when it clearly isn't.

An Indian girl says she was forcibly married in Pakistan and tortured physically and mentally. Then goes on to say Pakistan is "maut ka koonwa".

If this is not India vs Pakistan, then I don't know what is.

 

[pakistani_banda]

if india is so safe, then sehwag has been sleeping under a rock. has he not seen how the anti-romeo squads have been harassing couples? has he not seen how women are being harassed by men? i really wonder whether people are really blind or their patriotism makes them selective blind that they only see the things that they want to see.