"There's only India who came to Australia in recent times and competed": Michael Vaughan

[BouncerGuy]

Michael Vaughan while commentating during the Australia vs Pakistan 1st Test match:

"There's only India, which came to Australia in recent times and competed. Most of the teams that have come to Australia have just the same story: Australia bats to get plenty, and when the ball is in their hands, it is different. Quicker bowlers and better spinners. Bazball, we will look for them when they come here again. They were terrible on the last tour; actually, they have been poor in the last few tours, as many of the other teams that came here, its only India."​

 

[MenInG]

Challange for Pakistan - can they prove Vaughan wrong?

 

[Usman Chadda]

Challange for Pakistan - can they prove Vaughan wrong?

Only South Africa can prove Vaughan wrong.

Pakistan, England and New Zealand don’t have the personnel to compete in Australia.

 

[shortbread]

Only South Africa can prove Vaughan wrong.

Pakistan, England and New Zealand don’t have the personnel to compete in Australia.

England have the personnel to compete in Australia.

 

[FearlessRoar]

A local Indian media source reported quotes from former Pakistan Test Captain Salman Butt regarding the Pakistan Tour of Australia 2023-24. According to them, he said:

"I think the key was the hard length of the Indian bowlers and the ability of their batters to grind down the Australian bowlers and wear them down."

"Once that happened the lower-order batters played aggressive cricket, Shardul Thakur and Washington Sundar if I recall correctly."

"The key is patience in Australia, wear them down. This is not a very young pace attack and Indian batters made them bowl a lot of overs."

"Because of the even bounce of Australian pitches it is not difficult to score runs but you have to be very patient."

"He [Shan Masood] is a level headed and sensible guy who has really worked hard to improve his game. His captaincy stints in the PSL, plus in England for Yorkshire will help him a lot in easing into his new role in Australia."

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Only South Africa can prove Vaughan wrong.

Pakistan, England and New Zealand don’t have the personnel to compete in Australia.

South Africa got smashed into oblivion last year. PAK have already done better than them and they are not even looking to play full strength Test sides going forward.

It'll be interesting to see how the Bazballers fare when they tour here though.

 

[160KPH]

What he said is just a matter of fact. I hope we can play competitive cricket on this tour.

 

[Savak]

I saw an article which compared the number of annual A team games and tours in SENA conditions and India was at the top of the list and Pakistan at the bottom. That is where the difference lies.

 

[Buffet]

Last 5-6 years,

Eng lost 0-4 ( 5 tests)
NZ lost 0-3 ( 3 tests )
SL lost 0-2 ( 2 tests )
Pak lost 0-2 ( 2 tests )
SA lost 0-2 ( 3 tests )
WI lost 02 ( 2 tests )

Not counting India, 17 tests and 15 losses for visiting team in Aus with 2 draws. So avoiding whitewash has been hard in Aus.

In same period, Indians won 4 tests and drew few tests. If I recall correctly they had another win in their bag before rain came. Mainly because they had well rounded gun bowling attack. Yes, I am ware of one test where they did not have main bowlers, but I don't think that attack would have won them a series in Aus. One test is different.

I think getting a draw has been a massive achievement for visiting teams in Aus. Many posters may not think too much, but I think Pakistan has a golden chance to press for a draw in Perth and if they do it then Aus bowlers will be tired. It may have a huge influence on series result given Aus bowlers are wrong side of age right now. Keep them out as long as possible. Babar and Co. just need to bat entire day.

Rooting for Pakistan to bat entire day tomorrow. Pitch has no demons so far. Longer Aus bowlers are out there easier it will be even if Pakistan ends of losing this test.

 

[sweep_shot]

Last 10 years, only South Africa and India won Test series in Australia.

No other team won a match let alone a series.

 

[Devadwal]

Pujara was key for india success in Australia .he was stand at one end which put Australian bowling attack on the backfoot .
Imam can play that role while babar and Other batters can take on Australian bowling attack .

 

[MenInG]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1736314217962393664

 

[jnaveen1980]

IN the last 5 years. Batting average/Bowling average of teams that toured Australia

India's 2021 Tour comparison

 

[SamNJ]

When India tour there in December 2024. Warner will be gone. Khawaja, Lyon will be on their way out. Smith and Starc may also be on decline.
India will definitely compete there with Gill, Pant, Kohli, KL, Bumrah, Siraj, Shami, Jadeja, Kuldeep.

 

[cricketcricket79]

Michael Vaughan while commentating during the Australia vs Pakistan 1st Test match:

"There's only India, which came to Australia in recent times and competed. Most of the teams that have come to Australia have just the same story: Australia bats to get plenty, and when the ball is in their hands, it is different. Quicker bowlers and better spinners. Bazball, we will look for them when they come here again. They were terrible on the last tour; actually, they have been poor in the last few tours, as many of the other teams that came here, it’s only India."​

India more than competed Vaughn. India won last two times in Australia. If it was England had done the same, you would not have heard the end of hyperbole from this guy.

 

[AMSS]

When India tour there in December 2024. Warner will be gone. Khawaja, Lyon will be on their way out. Smith and Starc may also be on decline.
India will definitely compete there with Gill, Pant, Kohli, KL, Bumrah, Siraj, Shami, Jadeja, Kuldeep.

AUS will have a peak Head. And if they are bold, maybe McGurk gets a debut too. Probably the most formidable opening pair AUS had in years.

Their bowling is always sorted on those tracks.

India are unlikely to make it thrice in a row.

 

[cricketcricket79]

AUS will have a peak Head. And if they are bold, maybe McGurk gets a debut too. Probably the most formidable opening pair AUS had in years.

Their bowling is always sorted on those tracks.

India are unlikely to make it thrice in a row.

Depends on who plays for India. If Rohit is still leading then probably you are correct. Rohit should be kicked out of all Indian teams after T20 WC. He hasn’t done anything of note in Indian team lately and is clearly struggling with age.

 

[Vikram1989]

AUS will have a peak Head. And if they are bold, maybe McGurk gets a debut too. Probably the most formidable opening pair AUS had in years.

Their bowling is always sorted on those tracks.

India are unlikely to make it thrice in a row.

Head is not a typical opener to guarantee the returns. He has his short ball issues and bouncy tracks will test him for sure.All the first 3 matches are on bowling tracks(Perth, gabba,Adelaide d/n) ,so he will live and die by sword.Khawaja will be the second opener.Smith have scored a century in his last match as an opener.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

AUS will have a peak Head. And if they are bold, maybe McGurk gets a debut too. Probably the most formidable opening pair AUS had in years.

Their bowling is always sorted on those tracks.

India are unlikely to make it thrice in a row.

McGurk is in the reserves . He can only come in if someone is injured.

 

[Vikram1989]

McGurk is in the reserves . He can only come in if someone is injured.

He is talking about McGurk in test matches as opener for 2024 BGT

 

[BouncerGuy]

He is talking about McGurk in test matches as opener for 2024 BGT

Test is a whole different thing and it is not easy to open in that format under the swing and seaming conditions. This guy is special and Australia in not one of those countries who rush their players and destroy their career. They wait for the right moment that is why they succeed most of the times.

 

[Devadwal]

McGurk is in the reserves . He can only come in if someone is injured.

I'm 100% sure he will play .they will Change team ( wait for fake injury)

 

[Nikhil_cric]

He is talking about McGurk in test matches as opener for 2024 BGT

Right. McGurk is unlikely to be considered for red ball cricket. Averaged 19 in domestic cricket this year. Oliver Davies has a better shot.

 

[Chip32]

AUS will have a peak Head. And if they are bold, maybe McGurk gets a debut too. Probably the most formidable opening pair AUS had in years.

Their bowling is always sorted on those tracks.

India are unlikely to make it thrice in a row.

Australia don’t have a single reliable batsman and the bowling, Cummins aside, has been on a steady downwards spiral. India are heavy favourites.

 

[mominsaigol]

Australia don’t have a single reliable batsman and the bowling, Cummins aside, has been on a steady downwards spiral. India are heavy favourites.

Wdym by reliable?

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Aussie test bats are in their mid 30's

india should beat them home and away.

 

[mominsaigol]

Aussie test bats are in their mid 30's

india should beat them home and away.

India is a better team atm, But Australia will forever cause them nightmares in 2022, 2023 and who knows maybe you'll be adding 2024 on the list soon

 

[dubeTheGoat]

India is a better team atm, But Australia will forever cause them nightmares in 2022, 2023 and who knows maybe you'll be adding 2024 on the list soon

lol it is a good thing border gavaskar extends to 2025
No but for real though, if there is 1 team I dont ever want us to face in any competition, it is Aus

 

[kron]

I

India is a better team atm, But Australia will forever cause them nightmares in 2022, 2023 and who knows maybe you'll be adding 2024 on the list soon

India have been the better test than since 2015 itself.

This is Australia's second greatest ever test side.

India is now in transition phase. Australia haven't won a test series since 2014 vs india.

Australia won the wtc but who cares about one off wtc that too in England of all places. Makes no sense. Can't have one off in tests. Tests is about winning away and dominating at home.

But yes India losing 2023 odi wc was a shocker but Australia is just a gun odi side. One off games can go either way. We had some mental midget players hence the loss.

 

[Buffet]

I

India have been the better test than since 2015 itself.

This is Australia's second greatest ever test side.

India is now in transition phase. Australia haven't won a test series since 2014 vs india.

Don't know about it, but this Aus team is very under rated in the test format. India has surely been the better teast team for the last 10 years, but let's see Aus record if we exlude India.

Excluding India( at any venue),

Aus home W/L: 10
Aus away W/L : 1.xx

So total domination at home and very good away. ATG Aus team had W/L at home around 10. So except India, domination of other teams has been at same level. Not many teams in history have away W/L > 1.

India happned to have ATG bowling unit , but Aus bowling unit is actually very very good. Having Cummins and then Starc/Hazlewood/Lyon playing at same time. Not many bowling units have been better than them in history of cricket.

Sure, thjey will fall short of ATG Aus side and they were second best being great Indian Team in the last 10 years, but they are under rated for what they have done. A high quality test team. Sure, now they are in decline due to age and it may change but peak Cummins/Starc/Hazlewood/Lyon/Smith/Warner so many good/great players at the same time. I think Indians are also done with old set of players, but not many talk about how good Aus has been in the last 10 years in the test format.

India and Aus, both teams have declining players now. I expect Aus to win home test series this time. Losing 3 times at home agasint the same opposition will be a bit too much for Aus.

 

[NishanKonar]

The key player is Bumrah. If he stays fit for 5 tests & produces the goods - India is winning this one

For me right now Bumrah is the difference between the 2 teams. Leave aside Bumrah - Australia is superior to India

 

[NishanKonar]

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India have been the better test than since 2015 itself.

This is Australia's second greatest ever test side.

India is now in transition phase. Australia haven't won a test series since 2014 vs india.

Australia won the wtc but who cares about one off wtc that too in England of all places. Makes no sense. Can't have one off in tests. Tests is about winning away and dominating at home.

But yes India losing 2023 odi wc was a shocker but Australia is just a gun odi side. One off games can go either way. We had some mental midget players hence the loss.

Yes. WTC is actually least relevant ICC event

I wud take an overseas test series win over it any day. Hope to make it 3 in a row

 

[Local.Dada]

Last win in 2020 was a fairytale. 2018 I would say India and Aus were evenly matched or even one can say India was slightly better but India and sc track record in Australia clouded our judgement.

2020 was a miracle and will not repeat often.

The upcoming tour is like 2018, both teams evenly matched with Aus having the advantage as we have some oldies- Virat, Rohit, Ashwin, Jadeja, Shami.

 

[kron]

Yes. WTC is actually least relevant ICC event

I wud take an overseas test series win over it any day. Hope to make it 3 in a row

Unfortunately I don't think it's possible. Even if we can law of averages will catch up. I feel we lose this 2-1

But then again I said 2-1 loss in 2021 to aus and 2-2 draw in 2018. Both were india wins. So.....

 

[NishanKonar]

Unfortunately I don't think it's possible. Even if we can law of averages will catch up. I feel we lose this 2-1

But then again I said 2-1 loss in 2021 to aus and 2-2 draw in 2018. Both were india wins. So.....

Law of averages apply for random things - like coin toss. Not for events determined on merit

Like if Liverpool beats Man Utd 5 times in a row - it does not mean Man Utd will win 6th game bcoz of law of averages.

Same for BGT. India will win it of they perform to their full potential. On current form with fully fit Bumrah / Siraj / Shami - India wud be slight favorites

 

[kron]

Law of averages apply for random things - like coin toss. Not for events determined on merit

Like if Liverpool beats Man Utd 5 times in a row - it does not mean Man Utd will win 6th game bcoz of law of averages.

Same for BGT. India will win it of they perform to their full potential. On current form with fully fit Bumrah / Siraj / Shami - India wud be slight favorites

That's the thing.
Shami is only coming back from injury now. Not sure if he will be ready. Siraj blows hot and cold. If he is fully fit then sure he is a good bowler.

Bumrah
Akashdeep looks good
Harshit looks good
Siraj 50 50
Shami back from injury
Nitish reddy would be picked I think. He is good.
Yash dayal - not sold on yet.
Kevarappa - good but 132 135 pace.

Concern is shami injury siraj form and selection of back up like dayal.

 

[Local.Dada]

That's the thing.
Shami is only coming back from injury now. Not sure if he will be ready. Siraj blows hot and cold. If he is fully fit then sure he is a good bowler.

Bumrah
Akashdeep looks good
Harshit looks good
Siraj 50 50
Shami back from injury
Nitish reddy would be picked I think. He is good.
Yash dayal - not sold on yet.
Kevarappa - good but 132 135 pace.

Concern is shami injury siraj form and selection of back up like dayal.

We would have celebrated a 2-1 result 5 yrs ago. Let’s not have over expectations. We have an aging team. In India we will beat teams in our sleep with C sides on most days but Aus is not easy and 2020 is a miracle won’t happen every time. I am expecting a 3-1 with 1 draw. I think it’s a 5 test series if I am not wrong.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Former England captain Michael Vaughan picked his top three all-time best Pakistan batters while speaking on an Australian local sports broadcast outlet:

“My number three is Babar Azam. He just lost his place in the Test side but I am sure he will get it back. He is a world-class batter and averages 47 across formats. In one-day internationals, he is averaging nearly 57.”

“My number two is the big fellow Inzy. He may get across all the formats. He didn’t like to run between the wickets but he didn’t need to as he can struck the ball out of the ground.”

"Javed Miandad is my number one player. What a player. He was always competitive. He was ferocious.”