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Anyone going to watch it? I am unsure. What happened was horrendous in normal circumstances, but the media drive to tar the first the Muslim, then the British Pakistani community with this filth was unforgivable in my book.

What should have been a serious crime that needed to be looked at objectively and prosecuted as such, turned into a racist rallying cry for the likes of the EDL and online trolls everywhere. On the plus side, there has been resignations from authorities involved and some accountability in the police force. I don't need to spell out the downsides.
 
It will be harrowing but I will watch. My concern is that the care workers allegedly didn't dob the abusers in because they were scared of being called racist. Be interesting to see what they have to say about that idea, if they give it credence.
 
It will be harrowing but I will watch. My concern is that the care workers allegedly didn't dob the abusers in because they were scared of being called racist. Be interesting to see what they have to say about that idea, if they give it credence.

One of the worst side effects of political correctness.
 
It will be harrowing but I will watch. My concern is that the care workers allegedly didn't dob the abusers in because they were scared of being called racist. Be interesting to see what they have to say about that idea, if they give it credence.

I think that was a red herring. What would have been racist about reporting sexual abuse of a minor?
 
I think that was a red herring. What would have been racist about reporting sexual abuse of a minor?

I think the fear of being called racist outweighed the duty to report a crime in some staff members' minds. If so, that truly is PC gone mad and is the opposite of Liberalism.
 
Rochdale, Rotherham, Keighley, Huddersfield, Halifax, Bradford...........is there something in the water up in the north of England? Think I'll skip this series, have read enough about these gangs in the newspapers and it's never very pleasant.
 
Rochdale, Rotherham, Keighley, Huddersfield, Halifax, Bradford...........is there something in the water up in the north of England? Think I'll skip this series, have read enough about these gangs in the newspapers and it's never very pleasant.

There is a reason I try never to venture outside the M25.
 
Rochdale, Rotherham, Keighley, Huddersfield, Halifax, Bradford...........is there something in the water up in the north of England? Think I'll skip this series, have read enough about these gangs in the newspapers and it's never very pleasant.

You missed out London/Barking Oxford Aylesbury etc
 
Also I think White Brits fast becoming an endagered species in the Poverty Capital of England is a reason it doesnt occur more there though as expected Ilford and Barking have had cases.
 
I think the fear of being called racist outweighed the duty to report a crime in some staff members' minds. If so, that truly is PC gone mad and is the opposite of Liberalism.

I don't get how this excuse has been accepted. Has anybody ever complained about racism when persons from an ethnic minority get charged with other offences like tax evasion or murder? An offence is an offence, if you fail to do your job in reporting it, you can't hide behind fear of being labelled a racist, because in reality all this is doing is blaming society's good intentions ( racial equality) for your own prejudices.
 
I don't get how this excuse has been accepted. Has anybody ever complained about racism when persons from an ethnic minority get charged with other offences like tax evasion or murder? An offence is an offence, if you fail to do your job in reporting it, you can't hide behind fear of being labelled a racist, because in reality all this is doing is blaming society's good intentions ( racial equality) for your own prejudices.

I think the whole racism fear was simply used to cover the absolute ineptness of the councils involved. Those children where failed by every institution involved, from their local schools to the police! Racism wasn't a question when half the time no one knew what was taking place!

Also one needs to highlight the social failure, which is as much to blame, parents guardians whoever. They are the first source of protection and relief.
 
I think the whole racism fear was simply used to cover the absolute ineptness of the councils involved. Those children where failed by every institution involved, from their local schools to the police! Racism wasn't a question when half the time no one knew what was taking place!

Also one needs to highlight the social failure, which is as much to blame, parents guardians whoever. They are the first source of protection and relief.

Do you really believe authorities are that inept from the council to the police? What needs to be remembered here is that abuse of kids in care isn't a new thing, there was a huge scandal involving the BBC itself ironically, and that was covered up wilfully because celebrities were involved. Then recently there was the scandal about younger players being abused at football clubs and there were cover ups there as well. The big difference has been that there hasn't been a drive to attach these deplorable actions to a race or culture for some reason.
 
And now because of a small minority of paedos we are seeing things like this happen.....

Rochdale taxi firm admits providing white drivers on request
Car 2000 minicab company, which serves area where Asian grooming gangs have operated, says it is catering to demand



Customers ordering minicabs in the town at the centre of Britain’s biggest grooming scandal are being offered white drivers on request.

Residents in Heywood in the Greater Manchester borough of Rochdale have been offered the service after two local drivers of Pakistani origin were jailed for their part in the rape and trafficking of young white girls.

Stephen Campbell, the manager of Car 2000, which took over Eagle Taxis, a firm that employed drivers at the heart of the scandal, said that a consequence of the affair was that many white customers ask for white drivers – or “local” drivers, as they usually describe them.

“We have had quite a lot of customers requesting what they call a ‘local’ driver. A bit insane if you consider that most of the [Asian] lads were born in Rochdale.

“But it’s a business and we have got a duty to do what the customer asks us to. I don’t think we can discriminate against the customer in the same way. It is a business at the end of the day. We have a large bank loan to pay back,” he said.

If he could, Campbell said, he would persuade people to take any driver. “The Asian drivers are harder working, they do what they are asked and they don’t complain about it. They have a much better work ethic. If the public could actually see these [Asian] people close up and see what they are about, I don’t think they would be asking for white drivers.”

The disclosure comes as MPs in areas where Asian grooming gangs have operated have voiced concern about racial tensions, which have yet to subside some six years after the scandals first emerged.

Heywood was at the centre of the Rochdale scandal after a sex trafficking gang of men of mainly Pakistani origin were found to have preyed on at least 47 girls, all of whom were white. Two drivers from the now defunct local firm of Eagle Taxis were among nine Asian men jailed for their involvement.

Ukip ran a byelection campaign in Heywood and Middleton earlier this month focusing on the issues of child grooming and immigration and came within 617 votes of overturning a near 6,000 Labour majority.

Simon Danczuk, the MP for Rochdale, said: “This is extremely worrying and a stark reminder of the impact that grooming scandals have had on northern towns. This will not be a problem exclusive to our borough, I’m sure.

“It must act as a wake-up call to politicians who just pretend tensions like this don’t exist and bury their heads in the sand. There’s a lot of work to do to improve race relations and if we’re going to build stronger communities then we have to tackle these concerns head-on,” he said.

Campbell, 34, said his father James bought into the Heywood firm in 2011. A few months later, they realised that Car 2000 was at the centre of a major scandal as it emerged that drivers from Eagle Taxis were embroiled in grooming allegations. Mohammed Amin, 45, of Falinge, a driver for 14 years who was known as “Car Zero”, was convicted of sexual assault and received a five-year jail term.

Abdul Aziz, 41, a married father-of-three from Rochdale who was also a driver, was convicted of trafficking for sexual exploitation, received a nine-year sentence. They were two of nine men initially convicted in a complex trial.

“We were dead centre at the centre of that debacle. We bought the business knowing nothing,” said Campbell. “If you had lived through the 18 months that I went through you would understand how difficult it has been,” he said.

Around two thirds of drivers are of Asian origin, but more white drivers work during the day. Campbell said they receive up to 60 calls a week requesting a white driver.

Asked if he was concerned about the possible reaction from MPs and councils who may question the firm’s policy, Campbell said: “They [councils and MPs] can’t tell us what we can do.”

It emerged during the grooming trial in May 2012 that a number of men worked as taxi drivers and would ferry young and vulnerable girls around northern towns for sex with other Asian men.

The gang offered gifts to girls, won their trust and then forced them to have sex. Some victims were driven between Rochdale, Oldham, Bradford and elsewhere to have sex with men for money. Most of the victims came from Heywood, while most of the perpetrators came from Rochdale.

Since the trial, there have been serious racist incidents against drivers including threats with knives and assaults. Campbell said there has been a lack of a response from the police. “The Asian drivers do a great job, given the grief they have had from customers. They can’t say anything back. It is a terrible position to be in,” he said.

Abdul Afiz, 42, a driver at the firm from Rochdale, said that racist abuse happens often but only comes from a minority of customers. “You have to just get on with it,” he said.

But the “white drivers on request” policy does not run contrary to the conditions of the minicab firm’s licence and can continue, a spokesman for the council said. Mark Widdup, the director of economy and environment at Rochdale borough council, said: “This is first the council has heard of this company’s policy. However, this appears to be a decision made by the company and there is currently nothing in the conditions of their licence which state that they cannot operate such a policy, just as some firms choose to offer customers only female drivers.”

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/oct/21/rochdale-taxi-firm-white-drivers-on-request
 
And now because of a small minority of paedos we are seeing things like this happen.....



https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/oct/21/rochdale-taxi-firm-white-drivers-on-request

Can't really blame the company or the customers, if anything the spokesman there has been outspoken in his defence of Asian cab drivers, but he's got a business to run. With the British media running a public campaign against Muslim/Pakistani males in general as a result of these scumbags, the backlash was inevitable. I still haven't watched the BBC drama, but it's not going to help.
 
I have it on the Sky box so will watch in due course.
 
The government are trying to revoke the British citizenship of some of the attackers and deport them to Pakistan (I assume they have dual citizenship). Wonder what would happen if the Pakistani authorities got there first and stripped them of their Pakistani citizenship?


Four of the Rochdale grooming gang are fighting deportation - and only two are still in jail
All four are mounting yet another legal challenge to fight plans to deport them to Pakistan

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...rochdale-grooming-gang-jail-deported-13057964
 
The government are trying to revoke the British citizenship of some of the attackers and deport them to Pakistan (I assume they have dual citizenship). Wonder what would happen if the Pakistani authorities got there first and stripped them of their Pakistani citizenship?




http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...rochdale-grooming-gang-jail-deported-13057964

It will be interesting to see how the Pakistan govt react. No self respecting country would want to accept criminals who have been involved in such disgusting crimes in another country. Seems like the UK s just trying to wash it's hands of the whole affair.
 
Saw this over the weekend and it's not an easy watch.

So easy to label vulnerable people as **** and brush them under the carpet! That scene where Ruby watches Holly's father and mother takes her away from that house she was finding refuge with her friends, and cries being helpless.....gave me a dry lump in the throat.

It's pretty obvious that this is simply a top of the iceberg and there are plenty more filth out there preying on vulnerable young people. One can only hope they find justice like these Three Girls.
 
And now because of a small minority of paedos we are seeing things like this happen.....



https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/oct/21/rochdale-taxi-firm-white-drivers-on-request

You can't blame anyone for this. This stuff has been going on in big scale for so many years and huge number of people , including officials and communities members, were involved in this. I read one report where father was not able to get his daughter back despite knowing the location and cops refused to help him as well. He should have simply taken a gun and shot the scumbags.

With time, people will forget it and then you won't find request for 'local' drivers. Vast majority of drivers of all ethnicity don't do anything similar, it's just the fear factor, but you can't blame folks for being fearful here when it comes to their kids.
 
You can't blame anyone for this. This stuff has been going on in big scale for so many years and huge number of people , including officials and communities members, were involved in this. I read one report where father was not able to get his daughter back despite knowing the location and cops refused to help him as well. He should have simply taken a gun and shot the scumbags.

With time, people will forget it and then you won't find request for 'local' drivers. Vast majority of drivers of all ethnicity don't do anything similar, it's just the fear factor, but you can't blame folks for being fearful here when it comes to their kids.

Of course you can blame people for this. What other alternative is there? To bury our heads in the sand and hope it goes away? Isn't that what caused this mess in the first place?
 
I watched episode one.

It's harrowing stuff. Under-age girls from broken homes without strong support networks, some with learning difficulties, are groomed by Pakistani men twice or three times their age, with free food and vodka - then threatened if they do not comply.

The girls seem to be going along with it because they do not know that life should be better than that. The various agencies meet to discuss the problem. The police cannot arrest anyone without evidence, but nobody testifies against the perpetrators. Social services stir the plot by informing parents that their girls are working as prostitutes. One girl falls pregnant through rape.

The girls are let down at every turn - but the perps, their families, the police, social services. The one advocate the girls have so far is the lady at the sexual health clinic.

Mrs Robert watched with me, in cold fury.
 
I watched episode one.

It's harrowing stuff. Under-age girls from broken homes without strong support networks, some with learning difficulties, are groomed by Pakistani men twice or three times their age, with free food and vodka - then threatened if they do not comply.

The girls seem to be going along with it because they do not know that life should be better than that. The various agencies meet to discuss the problem. The police cannot arrest anyone without evidence, but nobody testifies against the perpetrators. Social services stir the plot by informing parents that their girls are working as prostitutes. One girl falls pregnant through rape.

The girls are let down at every turn - but the perps, their families, the police, social services. The one advocate the girls have so far is the lady at the sexual health clinic.

Mrs Robert watched with me, in cold fury.

Local community (white, brown etc.) should grab them and break their legs.

Heck, I'd join the mob! And pay the fine, serve time.
 
I watched episode one.

It's harrowing stuff. Under-age girls from broken homes without strong support networks, some with learning difficulties, are groomed by Pakistani men twice or three times their age, with free food and vodka - then threatened if they do not comply.

The girls seem to be going along with it because they do not know that life should be better than that. The various agencies meet to discuss the problem. The police cannot arrest anyone without evidence, but nobody testifies against the perpetrators. Social services stir the plot by informing parents that their girls are working as prostitutes. One girl falls pregnant through rape.

The girls are let down at every turn - but the perps, their families, the police, social services. The one advocate the girls have so far is the lady at the sexual health clinic.

Mrs Robert watched with me, in cold fury.

You need to watch all three episodes to get the full story, especially the last one and then you might get an idea of where the fault lines lay. Quite disturbing questions do arise from it.
 
Looks like Keighley may be the next Rochdale.

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/west-yorkshire-town-centre-child-10548639
 
You need to watch all three episodes to get the full story, especially the last one and then you might get an idea of where the fault lines lay. Quite disturbing questions do arise from it.

How did you find the episodes or are they too disturbing to watch? also, what are your solutions?
 
How did you find the episodes or are they too disturbing to watch? also, what are your solutions?

There was a pretty well publicised drama on BBC last month, I recorded it then watched it over the next few days. You might be able to get it online, I wouldn't know since I just got it from terrestrial TV. As for solutions, I think first of all the right questions need to be asked. It's not like these crimes went undetected.
 

It is the same tired news they keep recycling over and over. Apparently the police have stated the figures are down from last year. Then other than the one group arrested there hardly everr any arrests. It is usually the white Peado's that get arrested and sentenced.

As for Bradford don't think there has ever been a gang arrested for grooming it is usually one asylum seeker type from Bradford involved in a gang such as the gangs from Aylesbury or the more recent Huddersfield one.

Though there were two non Pakistani lads convicted in an incident this year don't know if that classify s as a gang.

Even most of the Rotheram Groomers were white though they play on the % number. But stay quite when Blacks are involved whom are always the highest % involved.

Even in Bradford they make 1% of the population yet 4% of the suspects are black. Which is far far greater than any other ethnic group in the District.

As for Hopkins that sleazeball was the head of Bradford council when the grooming stuff broke out he stayed quite like a mouse then.
 
Horrific abuse of vunerable kids from damaged and unstable backgrounds. I have seen taxi bosses delibrately hire girls(normally 16-19) from these poor backgrounds so that they can get sexual favours except that in some cases like in Rochdale they are much younger.
 
It is the same tired news they keep recycling over and over. Apparently the police have stated the figures are down from last year. Then other than the one group arrested there hardly everr any arrests. It is usually the white Peado's that get arrested and sentenced.

As for Bradford don't think there has ever been a gang arrested for grooming it is usually one asylum seeker type from Bradford involved in a gang such as the gangs from Aylesbury or the more recent Huddersfield one.

Though there were two non Pakistani lads convicted in an incident this year don't know if that classify s as a gang.

Even most of the Rotheram Groomers were white though they play on the % number. But stay quite when Blacks are involved whom are always the highest % involved.

Even in Bradford they make 1% of the population yet 4% of the suspects are black. Which is far far greater than any other ethnic group in the District.

As for Hopkins that sleazeball was the head of Bradford council when the grooming stuff broke out he stayed quite like a mouse then.

There is a political agenda but there is no doubt that white girls from poor backgrounds are seen as cheap and many people in these communities would have seen what was happening but never reported it. I once saw a group of desi drug dealers pick up a vulnerable young girl outside from my school and i reported it straight away. Protection of children from **** is everbodys responsibility, not just social workers.
 
There is a political agenda but there is no doubt that white girls from poor backgrounds are seen as cheap and many people in these communities would have seen what was happening but never reported it. I once saw a group of desi drug dealers pick up a vulnerable young girl outside from my school and i reported it straight away. Protection of children from **** is everbodys responsibility, not just social workers.

These creeps don't care about ethnicity they do it to all ethnicities if they can.
 
[MENTION=396]mani1[/MENTION] a lot of these guys do prefer to target white girls because they seem them as easier targets and they see them as being slutty and promiscuous. seeing "goriya" as sexually open isnt an unheard of view.
 
[MENTION=396]mani1[/MENTION] a lot of these guys do prefer to target white girls because they seem them as easier targets and they see them as being slutty and promiscuous. seeing "goriya" as sexually open isnt an unheard of view.

Ironically, if you watch the drama, you would see that the police and social services viewed the girls in the same way as well. Why do you think the girl's testimony wasn't taken seriously when it was first reported? I followed the reviews of the tv mini series and while the first couple of episodes received rapturous and self-righteous praise mixed with horror, the final one seemed to mute the enthusiasm somewhat when the extent of the cover up became obvious.
 
These creeps don't care about ethnicity they do it to all ethnicities if they can.

But i agree with the comment below, that they valued the white girls as worthless but i do take your point that they would also abuse other ethnicities if they could.
 
Mrs Robert and I finished watching last night.

Harrowing stuff indeed, watching these poor girls get mangled by a combination of a paedophile ring and government agencies which treated them first with incredulity and later as pawns in a legal game.

Most stark was the series of vignettes after the verdict showing the wider damage done to the community - the town meeting, the burned-out police officers and social workers who lost faith in the system.

More brilliant television from the BBC.
 
Three members of the Rochdale grooming gang have been stripped of their British citizenship and face deportation as a Judge said it is for the "public good" that they return to Pakistan.

Abdul Aziz, Adil Khan and Qari Abdul Rauf were jailed alongside six other men for the crimes in 2012, but they appealed against a decision by then Home Secretary Theresa May to remove their citizenship and allow them to be deported.


Yesterday they lost their third appeal case against the decision, made in 2015, as Lord Justice Sales said their offences amounted to "serious organised crime", allowing the Government the right to remove their citizenship.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....g-members-face-deportation-losing-appeal/amp/
 
Great news. These type of scumbags give British Pakistanis a bad name, best they are sent back to whichever mud huts they emerged from, hopefully the Pakistani authorities won't be as lax as the British ones were.

These losers have done so much damage to the muslim community in the UK. This has been used by Yaxley Lennon and others as the issue that unites the far right.
 
They should never ever be released from prison. That would be justice. How does giving them liberty to roam freely in Pakistan and possibly target vulnerable people there make any sense?

Seems like another blunder that May cooked up.
 
They should never ever be released from prison. That would be justice. How does giving them liberty to roam freely in Pakistan and possibly target vulnerable people there make any sense?

Seems like another blunder that May cooked up.

They are immigrants, there should be no problem sending them back where they came from. What the Pakistani authorities do with them is up to them. It's their country, up to them if they want to allow them to roam around. They may well feel that as they give their country a bad name, perhaps they should be charged at home as well.
 
They should never ever be released from prison. That would be justice. How does giving them liberty to roam freely in Pakistan and possibly target vulnerable people there make any sense?

Seems like another blunder that May cooked up.

Why should the British taxpayer spend £40K a year looking after each of these creeps for life?
 
As a British Pakistani, I couldn't be happier to see such s**m of society be deported back from where they came from. These guys look like us and share the same names as us. Always knew middle aged, freshy Asian uncles were the worst.
 
They should never ever be released from prison. That would be justice. How does giving them liberty to roam freely in Pakistan and possibly target vulnerable people there make any sense?

Seems like another blunder that May cooked up.
Some of them are already out on license in the UK. The justice system here is shambolic.
 
I would allow them to remain in the UK - but on one condition. They help the police to locate each and every one of the 'customers' to whom they sold the 'services' of the girls, and help the police to prosecute them.
 
The Mail on Sunday has agreed to pay £180,000 in damages to a former minicab licensing officer after the newspaper falsely accused him of acting as a “fixer” for paedophile taxi drivers in Rochdale.

Waj Iqbal, 44, told the Guardian his life had been ruined by the article, leaving him reliant on anti-depressants, out of work, and prevented from seeing his children. He said the legal victory followed a three-year battle and the newspaper had chosen to pick on him because of his race.

The Mail on Sunday story claimed Iqbal, who is British-Pakistani, cleared taxi drivers of the same background to work in Rochdale at a time when they were sexually abusing children.

“When the article came out I didn’t know what to do. It’s like my whole world crumbled around me,” he said. “The colour of my skin was the selling point. Put that together with grooming gangs and then – boom.”

Under the headline “Scandal of the mini-cab predators”, the newspaper focused on Iqbal, a junior taxi-licensing official at South Ribble borough council, as part of its coverage of the decision to renew the licence of a local driver called John O’Sullivan, who had been found guilty of assaulting a profoundly autistic child by tying him up on a school run.

The Mail on Sunday attempted to connect him to a much bigger scandal, claiming that in a previous job he was a “fixer” for taxi drivers in Rochdale “at a time when some local drivers were raping underage girls as members of paedophile rings”.

The piece appeared in May 2017, the same week that the BBC broadcast the drama series Three Girls about the scandal – leading many in the close-knit communities around Iqbal’s home to draw a connection between the two.

While Iqbal was working at Rochdale, it was as part of a large team covering all manner of licensing issues, an issue now accepted by the Mail on Sunday’s lawyers.

He said: “They put two and two together and got five. It’s easy to say that the Asian licensing officer is granting licensing to groomers.”

The impact on Iqbal, who also worked part-time as a bouncer, was immediate. The security company he worked for said he could no longer be employed as a member of door staff at local venues as there was too much interest in the story.

“I feared for my life. I put CCTV all up around my house because you get lunatics. I had to come off social media completely. My son was studying at Preston and people would say say: ‘Your dad’s dodgy, he’s part of this grooming thing.’”

He said being branded a paedophile-enabler pushed him towards suicidal thoughts. Potential employers would offer him agency work, Google his name and withdraw the offer when they saw the coverage. He said he had already being having issues in his marriage and this story was the “nail in the coffin”.

“The article portrayed me as the main guy when in reality there were 10 to 15 staff,” he said of his time at Rochdale. He said that in any case there was little the licensing department could have done about the grooming activities of the minicab drivers, since the police had been reluctant to investigate or prosecute the individuals. Because the drivers had not been found guilty of any offence, there was no reason to block their licences.

Instead, when the authorities finally took action against the paedophile drivers, it was Iqbal who found himself tasked with telling a driver who would later be convicted of child sex offences that he would be taken off the road.

“I went to deliver the suspension letter and his 11-year-old daughter opened the door. I was sickened to the stomach thinking about how he could do that stuff.”

The case was picked up by the lawyer Mark Lewis, and on Thursday the Mail on Sunday settled at the high court in a case that is estimated to have cost the newspaper a further £1m in legal fees.

As part of the settlement the newspaper has agreed to retract the claims, with a court statement making clear that Iqbal did not work exclusively as a taxi licensing official while at Rochdale and emphasising that he was never issued with any formal warning over his work at South Ribble council.

Iqbal, who had struggled to find work and had been driving a 180-mile daily roundtrip from his home in Nelson to Wrexham in search of work, has celebrated the payout by taking a holiday to Bali.

But he said there was little upside from the incident. “Family-wise I couldn’t see my kids for two years because of the article. The money is there but the time I’ve lost with my children, you can’t put a price on it. And within the Asian community my reputation is basically gone.”

He said he was concerned about Islamophobia in parts of the British media. “I’m being portrayed as if I’m part of these bad people. Every society and race has bad people, it doesn’t mean everyone in that race are the same bad people. I was born in Yorkshire, grew up in Lancashire, my entire family are all hardcore British. Until this saga I loved my job, I like educating people, telling taxi drivers what the law says.”

He added: “The newspaper has said he’s of Pakistani background, those groomers are of Pakistani background, and suggested he’s part of them. I hate those groomers. I’ve got kids of my own, they sicken me. Those people are just sad and sick. But now I’m just trying to get my life back.”

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...ongly-accused-over-grooming-ring-gets-damages
 
It would be difficult to watch this IMO. I cant stand rape or incest thats why I event havent finished Game of Thrones.
 
Rochdale grooming gang members make deportation appeal

A man who was part of a grooming gang which preyed on vulnerable young girls has told an immigration tribunal the men did not commit "that big a crime".

Adil Khan was one of nine men jailed in 2012 for multiple offences in Rochdale.

He and fellow gang member Qari Abdul Rauf are appealing against deportation orders served in July 2020.

The pair, who have dual UK-Pakistani citizenship, lost a legal battle against the orders in 2018, but have yet to be deported.

Speaking via a video-link and through a translator at the hearing in London, Khan complained about the press coverage of the case against the men and said journalists had "made our lives a living hell".

"We are not that big a criminal, we have not committed that big a crime," he said, adding: "I'm innocent."

'Statelessness'
Khan, who was sentenced to eight years in 2012 and released on licence four years later, got a 13-year-old girl pregnant and then trafficked a 15-year-old girl to others using violence when she complained.

Rauf also trafficked a 15-year-old girl for sex, driving her to secluded areas to have sex with her in his taxi and ferry her to a flat in Rochdale where he and others had sex with her.

He was jailed for six years and released in November 2014 after serving two years and six months of his sentence.

The tribunal, which is considering the pair's appeal against Home Secretary Priti Patel's decision to deport them, was told Khan's reasons for appeal are on the grounds of Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights, his right to a private and family life.

He is also appealing on the grounds of being "statelessness", following his renunciation of his Pakistani nationality in September 2018.

However, the hearing was told that move was made a month after he was told he would be deported.

Cathryn McGahey QC, representing the Home Office, told the tribunal that the facts supporting deprivation were "overwhelming".

A further deportation hearing is scheduled for 1 July.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...r-57403043.amp
 
A member of the infamous Rochdale gang that groomed dozens of girls for sex has told a judge he shouldn't be deported because his son needs a role model.

Adil Khan, 51, and Qari Abdul Rauf, 52, are due to be sent back to Pakistan for the public good after being convicted in May 2012.

Since being freed from jail, they have mounted a long legal campaign to try to avoid being kicked out of the UK after their British citizenship was revoked.

The men claim that being deported would breach their human rights.

In Khan's final hearing on Wednesday, the judge asked how his son would be affected if he was sent back to Pakistan.

He said through an interpreter: "As you know, the father figure is very important in every culture in the world, to be a role model for the child, to tell him or her right from wrong."

He added that his family didn't want him back because his infamy would be bad for their business.

Khan's abuse included getting a 13-year-old pregnant and using the threat of violence to pass a 15-year-old around to other men.

Father-of-five Qari Abdul Rauf also trafficked a 15-year-old girl for sex, driving her in his taxi to secluded areas and to a flat where he and others would abuse her.

The gang of nine men operated for two years from 2008, plying girls as young as 12 with alcohol and drugs and gang-raping them at various locations, sometimes "pimping" them out for money.

As many as 47 girls were abused, according to police. The girls being groomed were often criminalised by authorities and were in and out of court.

Their case was dramatised in the BBC programme Three Girls, but there's still anger in Rochdale that none of the men have been deported.

The girl Khan got pregnant reportedly once came "face to face" with him and a child in Asda, and ran out the shop crying.

In April, Greater Manchester Police apologised to three victims for failing to protect them. The force admitted: "GMP could and should have done much more to protect you and we let you down."

Campaigners criticised the apology as being "10 years too late" and said the girls had been treated with contempt.

A report also revealed this week that the ringleader of the Rochdale gang, Shabir Ahmed, had once been employed as a welfare rights officer by Oldham Council despite multiple concerns being raised against him.

Ahmed is serving a 22-year sentence.

Khan and Rauf's hearing against their deportation was adjourned until Thursday.

https://news.sky.com/story/rochdale...ort-him-because-son-needs-role-model-12638802
 
Very well-made series. The Brit-Pakistani grooming was very real, however the community may try to spin it.

But I don't agree with the popular reason why the authorities didn't investigate it as seriously as they should have. They mostly didn't do it from a class pov rather than a racial one. The exploited girls mostly belonged to what they felt were white trash. Which is what the grooming gangs also took advantage of.

There is a scene in the series where a meeting with the Brit Pak community has the same kind of arguments being advanced here.

The positive to this whole shocker was - it took a Brit-Pakistani to get the cases moving and eventually get some justice for a few of the girls. That had been conveniently left out by the likes of Tommy Robinson whose thoughts I used to be interested in for a while.
 
A ringleader of a grooming gang has avoided being deported so it would therefore be wrong to deport two other gang members, a tribunal has heard.

Abdul Aziz, 51, Adil Khan, 51, and Qari Rauf, 52, were among nine gang members jailed in 2012 for a catalogue of child sex offences in Rochdale.

Aziz, known as "the Master" by the gang, has previously been told he will not be deported by the Home Office.

Khan and Rauf claim deportation would interfere with their human rights.

The tribunal had heard how all three were liable to be deprived of UK citizenship and deported as they also held Pakistani nationality, and then-home secretary Theresa May ruled it would be "conducive to the public good".

Since being release from jail, the men have fought a long legal battle against deportation, mounting multiple legal challenges and appeals, spanning several years.

It emerged at the immigration tribunal hearing in London, Aziz had already been told he will not be stripped of his UK citizenship and deported.

Aziz had renounced his Pakistani citizenship on 13 July, 2018, six years after he was jailed, but just days before the Court of Appeal ruled he could be deprived of his UK citizenship.

Rauf and Khan only renounced their Pakistani citizenship in September of the same year after the Court of Appeal ruling.

Lawyers for Rauf said the law demands consistency of treatment and although Rauf could regain his Pakistani nationality simply by signing a form, he refuses to do so because he does not want to be deported.

Khan told the hearing: "I have a question for the Home Secretary, whether Mr Aziz was an angel and I am a devil?"

Aziz was jailed for nine years in 2012, for conspiracy to engage in sexual activity with a child by penetrative sex and trafficking for sexual exploitation a 15-year-old girl.

He took his victim to flats in Rochdale where she was plied with vodka and drugs and coerced into sex with gangs of men in return for payment to him.

Rauf, a father-of-five, trafficked a 15-year-old girl for sex, driving her to secluded areas to have sex with her in his taxi and ferry her to a flat in Rochdale where he and others had sex with her.

Khan got a 13-year-old girl pregnant, but denied he was the father, then met another girl, 15, and trafficked her to others using violence when she complained.

The hearing was adjourned with a decision on deportation expected later this year.

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A ringleader of a grooming gang has avoided being deported so it would therefore be wrong to deport two other gang members, a tribunal has heard.

What disgusting animals they are.

They should be deported asap.
 
Two Rochdale grooming gang members lose appeal against deportation to Pakistan

Two members of a Rochdale grooming gang have lost their appeal against being deported to Pakistan.

Adil Khan, 51, and Abdul Rauf, 52, had fought the deportation on human rights grounds.

The pair were convicted in May 2012 and were part of the infamous gang that groomed dozens of girls for sex in the Lancashire town.

The gang of nine men operated for two years from 2008, plying girls as young as 12 with alcohol and drugs and gang-raping them at various locations, sometimes "pimping" them out for money.

As many as 47 girls were abused, according to police. The girls being groomed were often criminalised by authorities and were in and out of court.

https://news.sky.com/story/two-roch...peal-against-deportation-to-pakistan-12730803
 
Deport the animals ASAP. This renouncing their Pak nationality having no where else to go does not wash with me. Get these sub humans out of the UK.
 
Deport the animals ASAP. This renouncing their Pak nationality having no where else to go does not wash with me. Get these sub humans out of the UK.

Such animals deserve nothing less than execution ASAP.
 
If deported will they face jail in Pakistan? Will they be discredited there?
 
If these dirtbags were in US, they would have been shanked in the prison. Pedos are the lowest form of criminals in US justice system.
 
If these dirtbags were in US, they would have been shanked in the prison. Pedos are the lowest form of criminals in US justice system.

In Britain we try to reform them, make them better.
 
If deported will they face jail in Pakistan? Will they be discredited there?

No. In Pak such behaviour is considered to be normal!!. No one will care that they are rapists at all.
 
On what basis are they being deported? Were they nationalised uk citizens born in pakistan?
 
Two ringleaders of the Rochdale grooming gang ‘may remain in the UK forever’ despite being ordered out of the country 11 years ago.

Qari Rauf, 54, and Adil Khan, 53, were convicted, along with seven other men, of grooming and gang-raping 47 girls as young as 12, and ‘pimping’ them out to other predators.

The two taxi drivers were told by a judge and then Home Secretary Theresa May in 2012 they would be sent back to Pakistan once their prison sentences were completed in 2014 and 2016.

But they so far remain in the UK, with the Greater Manchester police detective who helped uncover the ring believing they will ‘never be deported’.

Maggie Oliver told TalkTV: ‘I actually had a face to face meeting with both Rishi Sunak and Suella Braverman about a month ago and at that meeting was Ruby who had been raped by Adil Khan.

‘I asked them this very question and they wouldn’t comment. But for me it’s not a party political issue, this is a problem that existed whether it was Labour or Conservatives in power.

‘I personally believe that these two abusers will remain in this country forever.’

Both men have argued deportation would strip them of their right to family life set out in the Human Rights Act, as they have wives and children in the UK.

Rauf even claimed he wanted to remain in England so he could be a ‘role model’ to his son.

Both have also renounced their Pakistani citizenship, meaning deportation would leave them ‘stateless’.

Ms Oliver said: ‘At the time they went to prison they didn’t have British citizenship, they had Pakistani citizenship.

‘When they were released they were advised that in order to play the system they had to also become British citizens. So they obtained that after their release from prison.’

The Rochdale grooming gang operated for two years from 2008.

Khan got a girl, 13, pregnant but denied he was the father then met another girl, 15, and trafficked her to others, using violence when she complained.

He was sentenced to eight years in 2012 and released on licence four years later.

Rauf trafficked a 15-year-old girl, driving her to secluded areas to abuse her in his taxi and ferry her to a flat in Rochdale where he and others continued the sickening crimes.

The father-of-five was jailed for six years and released in November 2014 after serving two years and six months of his sentence.

A Home Office spokesperson said: ‘The crimes committed by the Rochdale child sexual exploitation group who preyed on the young and vulnerable were truly appalling and have no place in our society.

‘The Government will continue to pursue all legal options against these perpetrators and protect the victims of these appalling crimes.’

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/worl...tp&cvid=317bd0f1256e43bcbf3f0c0322a3cfbc&ei=7
 
Girls were "left at the mercy" of paedophile grooming gangs for years because of failings by senior police and council bosses, a report has said.

The review covers 2004 to 2013 and sets out a series of failed investigations by Greater Manchester Police (GMP).

It also highlights the apparent local authority indifference to the plight of hundreds of youngsters identified as potential victims.

GMP has apologised and said such cases were handled very differently now.

However, Greater Manchester mayor Andy Burnham said the review showed the victims involved had been "badly failed".

He also praised whistleblowers, including health worker Sara Rowbotham and former GMP detective Maggie Oliver, who raised concerns despite facing vocal criticism from authorities.

Mr Burnham commissioned a series of independent reviews after he became mayor in 2017, following the BBC documentary The Betrayed Girls, which highlighted repeated failures to protect children in the region.

One child victim, known as Amber, gave "significant evidence", but the crimes were not recorded by GMP and perpetrators were potentially left to continue their abuse of other children, the report found.

She was even described as a co-conspirator in the sexual exploitation of other children in one trial without her knowledge - an allegation which she always denied and was unable to defend herself against.

The review, which focuses on 111 cases in Rochdale from 2004 to 2013, also concluded:

Compelling evidence of widespread organised sexual exploitation of children
Statutory agencies failed to respond appropriately
The threat of child sexual exploitation was not addressed between 2004 and 2007
The probability that at least 74 children were being sexually exploited - and in 48 of those cases there were serious failures to protect the child
Child sex exploitation (CSE) was a low priority and under-resourced by GMP

It also found local child sex exploitation (CSE) concerns raised by Ms Rowbotham and Ms Oliver, both of whom were initially criticised, were "substantiated".

'Lone voices'
The review's author Malcolm Newsam said: "During the period covered by this review, GMP and Rochdale Council failed to prioritise the protection of children who were being sexually exploited by a significant number of men within the Rochdale area.

"For several years, Sara Rowbotham and her colleagues were lone voices in raising concerns about the sexual exploitation and abuse of these children."

He said successive police operations during the period were "insufficiently resourced".

Consequently he said children were "left at risk and many of their abusers to this day have not been apprehended".

Maggie Oliver
Image caption,
Former detective Maggie Oliver resigned from GMP to expose the force's mistakes
Mr Burnham described the results of the review as "distressing".

Addressing the victims, he said: "We are sorry that you were so badly failed by the system that should have protected you."

Responding to the review, he added: "It is only by facing up fully and unflinchingly to what happened that we can be sure of bringing the whole system culture change needed when it comes to protecting children from abuse."

Leaders at Rochdale Council and GMP repeated previous apologies, with council leader Neil Emmott saying: "I want to reassure the public that those responsible are gone and long gone.

"Rochdale was already investigating these historical cases when the mayor's review began in 2017 and a number are still ongoing, and we want to ensure the perpetrators of these crimes are brought to justice."

Children 'criminalised'
The report's authors highlighted that a "significant number of successful convictions" had been made in recent years.

However these related to only 13 of the 74 children believed to have been sexually exploited, which they described as a "very small proportion".

GMP Chief Constable Stephen Watson said the handling of CSE across Greater Manchester had been "overhauled since the early-2000s to ensure that victims and survivors are cared for and receive the expected level of service".

Speaking to BBC North West Tonight, Maggie Oliver said the review "goes further than I had hoped".

"My only criticism of it is that the terms of reference meant they were only allowed to look at what happened up to 2013."

She said agencies had "failed generations of children".

"They've criminalised them, they've blamed them, they have ignored them, they have failed to prosecute their abusers adequately," she added. "The numbers in this report are shocking."

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