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India will target Jonny Bairstow's broken finger if he plays for England in the fourth Test, says pace bowler Mohammed Shami.

Bairstow, 28, fractured the middle finger of his left hand while keeping wicket in the third Test defeat.

He said he hopes to keep at Southampton when the match starts on Thursday, but is likely to play as a specialist batsman if not.

"Not just me, any fast bowler will want to target his weak zone," said Shami.

"When you see that a batsman has a weakness and he feels uncomfortable in some way, you'd prefer to work on that aspect. We will definitely look at that."

England all-rounder Chris Woakes has tightness in his right quad and missed training on Tuesday. He will be assessed on Wednesday.

The hosts are 2-1 up in the five-match series.

'I'm protective of being England's keeper'
Bairstow sustained the injury when attempting to take a delivery from James Anderson on 20 August.

England one-day keeper Jos Buttler took the gloves for the remainder of the match, and will do so against at Southampton if Bairstow cannot keep.

Bairstow told BBC Radio 5 live his finger has "improved a lot over the last few days" but that he needs to train with the gloves on Tuesday and Wednesday before making a decision on whether he will keep this week.

Bairstow fell for a first-ball duck in the fourth innings as India won by 203 runs at Trent Bridge.

James Vince was recalled to the squad as batting cover if Bairstow is not fit to play.

"Hopefully it's not too long before I can get out there and get keeping and hopefully it's in this game," said Bairstow.

"I'm confident I should be able to play but I can't say I'm too confident without being out there performing in practice and the nets."

'You can tell how much it means to me'
Bairstow said he was "protective and proud" of being England keeper and did not want to give up the role in the longer term, adding that he will want to keep in the fifth Test at The Oval if ruled out this week.

"Over the last couple of years I've played as wicketkeeper, it's gone from people making comments about my keeping to people not even mentioning it," said Bairstow, who has played 57 Tests since making his debut in 2012.

"People were questioning it at the start but I've gone off and worked and worked and to get into a position where people aren't commenting about it is really pleasing for me.

"You can tell how much it means to me, keeping and batting for England.

"There is only one keeper in the side and I'll continue to want to keep wicket for England in Test matches and all formats, but at this moment in time Jos keeps in ODIs."

https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/45333980
 
Tough talk from IND bowlers honestly sounds funny and hilarious.

Keep it cool. You don't wanna become the target of Jimmy/Broad!
 
Tough talk from IND bowlers honestly sounds funny and hilarious.

Keep it cool. You don't wanna become the target of Jimmy/Broad!

"sounds funny and hilarious"? Bring it on.

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Even Hardik is faster than all England bowlers. Funnily, most on PP consider Hardik as a trundler.

i highly doubt any serious poster on PP considers Hardik a trundler

he regularly gets to 140kph even when he is getting a spanking
 
"sounds funny and hilarious"? Bring it on.

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That is a mind blowing graphic. I think even when we toured, only Wahab could be faster but Hassan and Amir barely even consistently hit mid 140s.

Very impressed by this Indian Pace Attack
(Bring on 19th Sept)
 
This thread has the potential to go for pages.
Back on point :
- he hasn’t specifically said he will target the broken finger
- if he has, the sentiment is right, but the articulation is wrong
 
Disgusting violent comment by Shami, has no place in Cricket. ICC needs to ban him for 3 games.
 
Yeah Shami maybe if you stopped wasting the new ball first, that'd be great.

But yeah, this Indian attack can actually trouble batsmen with pace and no harm in trying to make Bairstow's stay difficult by targeting his hand.
 
Perfect example of twisted headline by op. Nowhere in article he mentioned specifically about targetting broken finger.
 
Perfect example of twisted headline by op. Nowhere in article he mentioned specifically about targetting broken finger.

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[MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION] please make the necessary changes. Your thread tittle is incorrect.
 
Perfect example of twisted headline by op. Nowhere in article he mentioned specifically about targetting broken finger.

Speak to the bbc and let me know what they say.
 
"When you see that a batsman has a weakness and he feels uncomfortable in some way, you'd prefer to work on that aspect. We will definitely look at that."

That's the quote

Also for those who dont know, the title of thread is NOT a quote
 
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Speak to the bbc and let me know what they say.

The statement in your title is not the quote. And BBC certainly didn't print that as a quote

And your thread title certainly makes it look like that's a statement Shami made.

Both you and BBC are misleading.
 
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The statement in your title is not the quote. And BBC certainly didn't print that as a quote

And your thread title certainly makes it look like that's a statement Shami made.

Both you and BBC are misleading.

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An apology would be the right thing now.
 
"When you see that a batsman has a weakness and he feels uncomfortable in some way, you'd prefer to work on that aspect. We will definitely look at that."

That's the quote

Also for those who dont know, the title of thread is NOT a quote

For those who missed this.
 
An apology for what exactly? I blamed both you and the BBC in my response.

Just because BBC is being litigious isn't excuse for you doing the same. Two wrongs don't make a right.

It's not my job to correct bbc; the article is reproduced as is

There are plenty of other sites also stating same


Suggest you contact them all and let me know what response you get; if they change, so will we

We dont exis here to repair frail egos
 
He didnt said anything wrong.

There is nothing wrong in that quote considering he was asked regarding the same.
 
Any issues with moderation etc go to Mrr forum, don't destroy the discussion here
 
Why in heavens would you want to bat with a broken finger? And what if the injury aggravates, England will be a batsman short.

And what was Shami supposed to say? He will bowl underarm and let poovah Baisto scor? If the Bear is foolish to play with a broken finger, India SHOULD make him pay
 
BBC's standards are clearly down, such misinterpretation if done by Indian news channel we would had had so many posts with the same
 
There is nothing wrong with what Shami's intentions are but problem is his execution and his intentions don't align most times. If he tries targeting fingers of bairstow, chances are he will end up giving a lot of leg side dollies to bairstow. An embarrassing high test economy rate of 3.43, while a decent strike rate of 52, is the reason he's averaging 29 per wicket and not 25.
 
BBC's standards are clearly down, such misinterpretation if done by Indian news channel we would had had so many posts with the same

sorry exactly what misrepresentation?

His quote is

"When you see that a batsman has a weakness and he feels uncomfortable in some way, you'd prefer to work on that aspect. We will definitely look at that."

How many other interpretations can you have of that? What other weakness does Bairstow have apart from an obvious one ie broken finger and what could "We will definitely look at that" mean? Does it mean they will look at it with a magnifying glass? or check out a utube video or could it mean that they will attack his weakness ie his broken finger!

This is normal journalistic practice to put in a title which is based on an interpretation of the quote and as far as I see its pretty close to what Shami meant.
 
sorry exactly what misrepresentation?

His quote is

"When you see that a batsman has a weakness and he feels uncomfortable in some way, you'd prefer to work on that aspect. We will definitely look at that."

How many other interpretations can you have of that? What other weakness does Bairstow have apart from an obvious one ie broken finger and what could "We will definitely look at that" mean? Does it mean they will look at it with a magnifying glass? or check out a utube video or could it mean that they will attack his weakness ie his broken finger!

This is normal journalistic practice to put in a title which is based on an interpretation of the quote and as far as I see its pretty close to what Shami meant.

and what a shock! 3 different sources and each with similar headlines based upon Shami quote above

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sorry exactly what misrepresentation?

His quote is

"When you see that a batsman has a weakness and he feels uncomfortable in some way, you'd prefer to work on that aspect. We will definitely look at that."

How many other interpretations can you have of that? What other weakness does Bairstow have apart from an obvious one ie broken finger and what could "We will definitely look at that" mean? Does it mean they will look at it with a magnifying glass? or check out a utube video or could it mean that they will attack his weakness ie his broken finger!

This is normal journalistic practice to put in a title which is based on an interpretation of the quote and as far as I see its pretty close to what Shami meant.

It could actually mean a lot of things, for example someone has a back problem and if a bowler says same statement it could mean he would make him work his back even more not that he would Target his back.
 
If you have to defend yourself so many times then that's a good indication that you're going wrong somewhere.
 
There is nothing wrong with the title. Shami meant exactly that.

But I like it. He knows he's under pressure and he's the only bowler who's not yet performed in this series. He knows what is expected of him in the next match and he should be ready to deliver that.
 
It could actually mean a lot of things, for example someone has a back problem and if a bowler says same statement it could mean he would make him work his back even more not that he would Target his back.

Does Bairstow have a back problem?

Have you read the 3 links I have posted above from 3 different sites, each not mentioning any back problems?
 
There is nothing wrong with the title. Shami meant exactly that.

But I like it. He knows he's under pressure and he's the only bowler who's not yet performed in this series. He knows what is expected of him in the next match and he should be ready to deliver that.

Sane comment and thanks for bringing this back on track.
 
Would be stupid to play Bairstow - no one will/should have any sympathy for him if he loses his wicket due to a pain in his finger!
 
This is normal journalistic practice to put in a title which is based on an interpretation of the quote and as far as I see its pretty close to what Shami meant.


Disagree on this, normal journalistic practise is to report the facts, what, when, who, how ect.
Interpretation makes it an opinion piece. Major problem in today's media is opinions have become news.
 
Would be stupid to play Bairstow - no one will/should have any sympathy for him if he loses his wicket due to a pain in his finger!
True.

Now see Bairstow bashing Indian bowlers to all parts of ground en route to an unbeaten ton!
 
Disagree on this, normal journalistic practise is to report the facts, what, when, who, how ect.
Interpretation makes it an opinion piece. Major problem in today's media is opinions have become news.

Facts have been reported in article; the only dispute is on interpretation which seems fair to me.

Lot of time the actual quote cannot be put on headline as it's too long or long winded. In such cases the journalists will take a call.

In Shamis case all media outlets who heard it came to same conclusion
 
Will be funny if after making these comments, Shami gets replaced by Jadeja. Enough hints now on us playing two spinners.
 
One thing I fail to fully grasp from all of this is why is Jonny Bairstow so desperate to play, and that too, desperate not to relinquish the wicket keeping gloves?

He is injured. He broke his finger. Take some time and recover. You are an established player, and will get your place back - just look at England's other batting options. In fact, people have been constantly pushing the idea that he is England's second best bat after Root, and should bat in the top 4. Why not accept that, and take the chance to establish yourself as a 'proper batsman'.

Instead, he seems to want to stay as a wicket keeper, and bat lower down. Keep hearing that he feels he has worked very hard on his keeping, and keen not to give that up. Surely being a full time batsmen is a better (and easier) gig?
 
One thing I fail to fully grasp from all of this is why is Jonny Bairstow so desperate to play, and that too, desperate not to relinquish the wicket keeping gloves?

He is injured. He broke his finger. Take some time and recover. You are an established player, and will get your place back - just look at England's other batting options. In fact, people have been constantly pushing the idea that he is England's second best bat after Root, and should bat in the top 4. Why not accept that, and take the chance to establish yourself as a 'proper batsman'.

Instead, he seems to want to stay as a wicket keeper, and bat lower down. Keep hearing that he feels he has worked very hard on his keeping, and keen not to give that up. Surely being a full time batsmen is a better (and easier) gig?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2018/08/29/joe-root-offers-no-guarantees-jonny-bairstow-returning-england/

This could be a reason why. Maybe I am reading much into it but for Root saying "there are no guarantees in international sport” shows some mistrust between the captain and Bairstow.
 
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Conditions at Lords were totally different as to what we may encounter at Ageas Bowl.
 
Has had a dreadful Test, probably still injured.
 
Why was he played? Surely he shouldve rested and came back fully fit than playing half injured?

Some of the england management decisions in this series have been totally dumbfounding
 
They needn't target his finger. Just bowl it on a good length and you could drive India's team coach through his defence.
 
Who could they have played though? No-one in the squad that's gonna come-in is great in the middle-order.
 
No idea why they played him.

He's not 100% fit and clearly should not have been picked.

England selectors strike again.
 
No idea why they played him.

He's not 100% fit and clearly should not have been picked.

England selectors strike again.

The way he got out in the 2nd innings had nothing to do with any injury whatsoever.

It was just a terrible shot to the first ball he was facing.
 
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