Trump: American Soldiers Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers’

[Star_Coffee]

it is very likely that antifa and blm thugs would make such a statement disrespecting the fallen soldiers, not trump. Likely or not likely is stupid speculation and doesn't cut any mustard.

Disrespecting the fallen soldiers by Antifa is as much likely as Trump's supporters not believing him not disrespecting the fallen soldiers.

 

[MenInG]

Khizr Moazzam Khan, a Gold Star father who rose to fame in 2016 for challenging Trump’s knowledge of the US Constitution, will receive America’s highest civil award — the Presidential Medal of Freedom — from President Joe Biden on July 7.

The founder of the Consti*tu*tion Literacy and National Unity Center is among the 17 individuals from across the US who will receive the award this year.

The term ‘Gold Star parents’ is used for individuals whose children die fighting for America. Mr Khan and Ghazala Khan are the parents of US Army Captain Humayun Khan who was killed during the Iraq war in 2004.

“The Presidential Medal of Freedom is the Nation’s highest civilian honor, presented to individuals who have made exemplary contributions to the prosperity, values, or security of the US, world peace, or other significant societal, public, or private endeavors,” the White House announced on Friday.

“Khizr Khan is a prominent advocate for the rule of law and religious freedom and served on the US Commission on International Religious Free*dom under President Biden,” the statement added.

Mr Khan, who was born in Gujranwala and migrated to the US in 1980, is the first Pakistani American to receive this award.

Published in Dawn, July 2nd, 2022

 

[Robert]

Trump is purely transactional. He doesn’t understand behaviour that is kind for the sake of kindness. He thinks of that as “loser” behaviour. Such a person should never be elected to a town council, let alone a national Presidency.

 

[MenInG]

Pakistani-origin Khizr Khan, a prominent advocate for the rule of law and religious freedom, has received the Presidential Medal of Freedom – the highest US civil award.

Khizr, an immigrant from Pakistan, is a Gold Star father and founder of the Constitution Literacy and National Unity Centre. Father of US Army Captain Humayun Khan who was killed in Iraq in 2004, he gained national prominence after speaking at the 2016 Democratic National Convention, earning wrath of former US President Donald Trump for his views.

Biden awarded the award to 17 people on Thursday, including Olympic gymnast Simone Biles and the late Senator John McCain for making exemplary contributions to the prosperity, values, or security of the United States, world peace, or other significant societal, public, or private endeavours.

Biden also awarded the medals, the country's highest civilian honour, to Sandra Lindsay, a New York nurse who was among the first in the country to receive a Covid-19 vaccination.

Speaking at an event at the White House, Biden called the recipients an “extraordinary, extraordinary group of Americans.”

“The Fourth of July week reminds us what brought us together long ago and still binds us — binds us at our best, what we strive for,” Biden said. “We the people, doing what we can to ensure that the idea of America, the cause of freedom, shines like the sun to light up the future of the world.

“This is America,” he said, gesturing to the stage full of award winners.

“These seventeen Americans demonstrate the power of possibilities and embody the soul of the nation – hard work, perseverance, and faith,” the White House said in a statement.

It said that these individuals have overcome significant obstacles to achieve impressive accomplishments in the arts and sciences, dedicated their lives to advocating for the most vulnerable among us, and acted with bravery to drive change in their communities – and across the world – while blazing trails for generations to come.

Express Tribune

 

[PakLFC]

Most American soldiers don't even know what they are fighting for. The American media and President get them in to such a frenzy that they lose all rationality in the name of patriotism. In such a mental state they are more then happy to kill people who have not harmed them in anyway and be killed in return. Trump is absolutely right in his analysis.

 

[Robert]

Most American soldiers don't even know what they are fighting for. The American media and President get them in to such a frenzy that they lose all rationality in the name of patriotism. In such a mental state they are more then happy to kill people who have not harmed them in anyway and be killed in return. Trump is absolutely right in his analysis.

He didn’t make an analysis. He expressed an opinion based on his extreme self-centredness and narcissism. He is unable to comprehend how someone could give of themselves and even sacrifice themselves for some idea of a greater good.

 

[MenInG]

I recently visited the Cambridge American Cemetery - tbh so impressed in the way they honour their war-dead.

 

[Robert]

I recently visited the Cambridge American Cemetery - tbh so impressed in the way they honour their war-dead.

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The Arlington Cemetery in Virginia is beautiful. They have the ceremony for the Unknown Solider there, saluting all those who never came back but were not identified.

 

[PakLFC]

He didn’t make an analysis. He expressed an opinion based on his extreme self-centredness and narcissism. He is unable to comprehend how someone could give of themselves and even sacrifice themselves for some idea of a greater good.

That may be so however I stand by my original comment. Most American soldiers are rapists and baby killers. Often upon returning many suffer from psychological problems eventually turning the gun on themselves. If it makes you happy then I am making an analysis. There is no greater good in invading other countries for their resources.

 

[Robert]

That may be so however I stand by my original comment. Most American soldiers are rapists and baby killers. Often upon returning many suffer from psychological problems eventually turning the gun on themselves. If it makes you happy then I am making an analysis. There is no greater good in invading other countries for their resources.

But that isn’t what Trump meant, is it? He was referring to a specific group of WW1 soldiers who gave their lives to cover a retreat.

Tell us your analytical technique. What statistical tool did you apply, and what data set of Pershing’s Expeditionary Force? At what confidence level are you extrapolating this data?

 

[PakLFC]

But that isn’t what Trump meant, is it? He was referring to a specific group of WW1 soldiers who gave their lives to cover a retreat.

Tell us your analytical technique. What statistical tool did you apply, and what data set of Pershing’s Expeditionary Force? At what confidence level are you extrapolating this data?

My analysis is based on what the Americans and NATO did in Afghanistan and Iraq. We all know the truth and the WMD the world was told about. I think you are the type who supports NATO unconditionally no matter what they do. This is because the UK is always kissing American boots.

 

[Robert]

My analysis is based on what the Americans and NATO did in Afghanistan and Iraq. We all know the truth and the WMD the world was told about. I think you are the type who supports NATO unconditionally no matter what they do. This is because the UK is always kissing American boots.

You haven’t done an analysis.

You’ve unconsciously generalised a few stories about some bad soldiers who ran amok into a belief about hundreds of thousands of people.

Please stick to the thread, which is about what Trump said concerning a small group of American soldiers in Europe a century ago.

 

[MenInG]

The Arlington Cemetery in Virginia is beautiful. They have the ceremony for the Unknown Solider there, saluting all those who never came back but were not identified.

Yes have been there but this is remarkable given its away from home for US.

 

[Robert]

Yes have been there but this is remarkable given its away from home for US.

They really do honour their war dead.

 

[PakLFC]

You haven’t done an analysis.

You’ve unconsciously generalised a few stories about some bad soldiers who ran amok into a belief about hundreds of thousands of people.

Please stick to the thread, which is about what Trump said concerning a small group of American soldiers in Europe a century ago.

The thread is about Trumpy telling us that American soldiers who died in war are losers are suckers. I agree with that. What problem do you have here? All you are doing is making grammatical arguments of what he meant.

 

[Robert]

The thread is about Trumpy telling us that American soldiers who died in war are losers are suckers. I agree with that. What problem do you have here? All you are doing is making grammatical arguments of what he meant.

Because you generalised his view about a group of WW1 Marines being “losers” because they fought and died to save others into your view about all US soldiers ever since.

As I pointed out, Trump doesn’t understand the concept of service to others and self sacrifice for the greater good - which is why he was the worst possible choice to be POTUS.

 

[PakLFC]

Because you generalised his view about a group of WW1 Marines being “losers” because they fought and died to save others into your view about all US soldiers ever since.

As I pointed out, Trump doesn’t understand the concept of service to others and self sacrifice for the greater good - which is why he was the worst possible choice to be POTUS.

By and large all soldiers are losers following instructions like zombies to kill innocent people. Great good? You mean killing millions of innocents in the Middle East and Afghanistan? America in particular has been killing innocent people since nam and Nagasaki if not before! I guess that was self sacrifice as well.

 

[Robert]

By and large all soldiers are losers following instructions like zombies to kill innocent people. Great good? You mean killing millions of innocents in the Middle East and Afghanistan? America in particular has been killing innocent people since nam and Nagasaki if not before! I guess that was self sacrifice as well.

I am very grateful that USA came to the aid of Europe in WW2 and helped liberate it from Nazi Germany totalitarianism, allowing the free, prosperous and healthy societies to flourish.

At the same time, the USN and USMC drove the Imperial Japanese out of the Pacific and brought that disgusting regime of mass exterminations and slave labour camps to an end.

The American soldier, at his best, fights for the liberty of mankind.

Sadly at his worst he is akin to an enforcer for the Al Capones of Wall Street. The flag follows the money and the soldiers follow the flag.

 

[PakLFC]

I am very grateful that USA came to the aid of Europe in WW2 and helped liberate it from Nazi Germany totalitarianism, allowing the free, prosperous and healthy societies to flourish.

At the same time, the USN and USMC drove the Imperial Japanese out of the Pacific and brought that disgusting regime of mass exterminations and slave labour camps to an end.

The American soldier, at his best, fights for the liberty of mankind.

Sadly at his worst he is akin to an enforcer for the Al Capones of Wall Street. The flag follows the money and the soldiers follow the flag.

These greedy American capitalists and free masons would sell their mothers and you are telling the fight for the liberty of mankind!! They fight to control the resources of weaker countries. I assure you they would never even dare to mess with Russia or China.

They were called to fight against Nazi Germany. The Iraqis, Afghans and and Arab's didn't ask to be looted this is the difference. I have no sympathy when American soldiers are killed when they have always been occupiers not liberators.

 

[Robert]

These greedy American capitalists and free masons would sell their mothers and you are telling the fight for the liberty of mankind!! They fight to control the resources of weaker countries. I assure you they would never even dare to mess with Russia or China.

They were called to fight against Nazi Germany. The Iraqis, Afghans and and Arab's didn't ask to be looted this is the difference. I have no sympathy when American soldiers are killed when they have always been occupiers not liberators.

Yes, Americans wanted to liberate Iraq from the despot Saddam. Yes, the oil men in politics at the time saw an opportunity to make more money. Yes, some American officers were Christian fundies who saw themselves as Crusaders. So there was more than one driving motive.

Obviously nobody with nukes is going to be invaded. Ukraine would not have been had they not decommissioned their nukes.

“Greedy American capitalists” brings us back to Trump. He would have started a war if he felt he could profit.

 

[PakLFC]

Yes, Americans wanted to liberate Iraq from the despot Saddam. Yes, the oil men in politics at the time saw an opportunity to make more money. Yes, some American officers were Christian fundies who saw themselves as Crusaders. So there was more than one driving motive.

Obviously nobody with nukes is going to be invaded. Ukraine would not have been had they not decommissioned their nukes.

“Greedy American capitalists” brings us back to Trump. He would have started a war if he felt he could profit.

All American Presidents are the same, different faces but same policies of kissing Israel's back side. This is because it is the Zionists who control the USA and always have done. It was only JFK who stood up to them then we all know what happened. He was "mysteriously" killed.

In conclusion as you have admitted the wars are all about oil and attacking weaker countries. I don't think America has the hots for Putin so why don't they try to remove him. They dare not even think of challenging an equal power.

So all the rapes and murders in Abu Ghraib prison was observing human rights. American soldiers who were mostly convicted murderers terrorizing the locals by shooting aimlessly was a good thing. I hop i live long enough to see America punished for all the human rights and violence it has perpetrated on innocent people.

 

[Robert]

All American Presidents are the same, different faces but same policies of kissing Israel's back side. This is because it is the Zionists who control the USA and always have done. It was only JFK who stood up to them then we all know what happened. He was "mysteriously" killed.

In conclusion as you have admitted the wars are all about oil and attacking weaker countries. I don't think America has the hots for Putin so why don't they try to remove him. They dare not even think of challenging an equal power.

So all the rapes and murders in Abu Ghraib prison was observing human rights. American soldiers who were mostly convicted murderers terrorizing the locals by shooting aimlessly was a good thing. I hop i live long enough to see America punished for all the human rights and violence it has perpetrated on innocent people.

You are making a lot of generalisations here.

Firstly the State of Israel has only existed for the last 14 of the 46 Presidents so cannot all be the same regarding Israel.

Secondly I don’t take conspiracy theory like “Zionists control the USA” seriously. Extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence. Who are they and how do they do this?

Thirdly, there are numerous examples of US Presidents fighting for freedom and not invading poor oil-rich states. Washington broke away from the British Empire and set up a prototype democracy. Jefferson busted up the Barbary Corsairs and in doing so struck a blow against the Arab Slave Trade. Lincoln fought a civil war to free the American slaves. Woodrow Wilson entered WW1 to help make Europe safe for democracy. FDR entered WW2 for much the same reason. In Europe and the Far East he stopped the most horrific behaviour perpetrated by any nations in history. JFK at least tried to liberate Cuba and there was no oil in Vietnam for him to grab as he tried to stop the spread of communist totalitarianism.

USA is part of NATO and Putin has for the past fifteen years been encroaching into the airspace of European NATO states. Putin has also invaded West-leaning democracies. USA and Europe merely want him to stay back inside his own land and stop probing militarily and interfering with our elections.

“Convicted murderers” would never be allowed into the US military. Federal law bars any felon from enlisting.

Eleven military policemen were found guilty of war crimes at Abu Graib prison. More prosecutions are ongoing.

 

[PakLFC]

You are making a lot of generalisations here.

Firstly the State of Israel has only existed for the last 14 of the 46 Presidents so cannot all be the same regarding Israel.

Secondly I don’t take conspiracy theory like “Zionists control the USA” seriously. Extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence. Who are they and how do they do this?

Thirdly, there are numerous examples of US Presidents fighting for freedom and not invading poor oil-rich states. Washington broke away from the British Empire and set up a prototype democracy. Jefferson busted up the Barbary Corsairs and in doing so struck a blow against the Arab Slave Trade. Lincoln fought a civil war to free the American slaves. Woodrow Wilson entered WW1 to help make Europe safe for democracy. FDR entered WW2 for much the same reason. In Europe and the Far East he stopped the most horrific behaviour perpetrated by any nations in history. JFK at least tried to liberate Cuba and there was no oil in Vietnam for him to grab as he tried to stop the spread of communist totalitarianism.

USA is part of NATO and Putin has for the past fifteen years been encroaching into the airspace of European NATO states. Putin has also invaded West-leaning democracies. USA and Europe merely want him to stay back inside his own land and stop probing militarily and interfering with our elections.

“Convicted murderers” would never be allowed into the US military. Federal law bars any felon from enlisting.

Eleven military policemen were found guilty of war crimes at Abu Graib prison. More prosecutions are ongoing.

The USA was evil before Israel came in to being and is today as well. The Zionists control the banking, military, educational institution and media in the west which is enough to control the entire countries. That no one can even question the holocaust but people are free to offend Muslim's is solid evidence of how things work.

America has looted many countries including the ones you have mentioned under the garb of being defenders of this or that. So they go in as saviours then we see their real fangs and intentions of poisoning the population or the water killing many innocents in central America too. You will not hear all of this on FOX news or CNN.

Well if the west would stop harassing Putin then he would not hot back either. Again as always the UK is just a slave of America always doing it's bidding and blindly supporting it's policies. Putin has every right to stop Ukraine becoming a part of NATO. You better pray that he doesn't stop gas and electricity supply to the UK come the winter otherwise American war lovers like you will be burning wood to keep warm again much like your forefathers did.

You don't know what you are on about! We all know what happened at Abu Ghraib prison yet you keep going on about how brilliant and humane NATO soldiers are. These prosecutions are not good enough neither will they satisfy the jihadists. These people who have suffered as the hands of America and NATO for years want brutal and bloody revenge. They want America and NATO to suffer just like they did for years hence openly support Putin. You better believe that payback time has started.

 

[PakLFC]

Putin has made it clear that he will not hesitate to bomb British cities repeatedly particularly London. You better believe that he will do it because he can and with that he will also bomb the white racist union jack as well. The white racist British generals are scared as s4it from Putin and rightly so. This man's the real deal who has not even started his war on western Europe and America yet. Putin rocks!

 

[Technics 1210]

Here’s how to vindicate Trump and his comments - go research on how many children of Senators, Congressmen, Governors, and Presidents served in Amreekan lead wars.

Answers on a postcard please.

 

[Robert]

Putin has made it clear that he will not hesitate to bomb British cities repeatedly particularly London. You better believe that he will do it because he can and with that he will also bomb the white racist union jack as well. The white racist British generals are scared as s4it from Putin and rightly so. This man's the real deal who has not even started his war on western Europe and America yet. Putin rocks!

Well if he does then Moscow, St Petersburg, Volgograd and the next six Russian cities will cease to exist. We don’t need NATO support to do that. One Trident boat has more destructive power than all the munitions fired in WW1 and WW2 together.

Which is why Putin won’t launch on us.

 

[Robert]

The USA was evil before Israel came in to being and is today as well. The Zionists control the banking, military, educational institution and media in the west which is enough to control the entire countries. That no one can even question the holocaust but people are free to offend Muslim's is solid evidence of how things work.

America has looted many countries including the ones you have mentioned under the garb of being defenders of this or that. So they go in as saviours then we see their real fangs and intentions of poisoning the population or the water killing many innocents in central America too. You will not hear all of this on FOX news or CNN.

Well if the west would stop harassing Putin then he would not hot back either. Again as always the UK is just a slave of America always doing it's bidding and blindly supporting it's policies. Putin has every right to stop Ukraine becoming a part of NATO. You better pray that he doesn't stop gas and electricity supply to the UK come the winter otherwise American war lovers like you will be burning wood to keep warm again much like your forefathers did.

You don't know what you are on about! We all know what happened at Abu Ghraib prison yet you keep going on about how brilliant and humane NATO soldiers are. These prosecutions are not good enough neither will they satisfy the jihadists. These people who have suffered as the hands of America and NATO for years want brutal and bloody revenge. They want America and NATO to suffer just like they did for years hence openly support Putin. You better believe that payback time has started.

Oh dear, you are generalising even further and resorting to abuse, and sound a bit crazy.

I remind you about the pyramid of debate:

 

[PakLFC]

Well if he does then Moscow, St Petersburg, Volgograd and the next six Russian cities will cease to exist. We don’t need NATO support to do that. One Trident boat has more destructive power than all the munitions fired in WW1 and WW2 together.

Which is why Putin won’t launch on us.

And neither will you even dare attack Russia like you did Iraq and Afghanistan. I guarantee you Putin can attack the UK if he wants making queen and country grovel in front of him. Putin is right in saying that all this hate and war in the world is because of the Anglo Saxons who are the instigators of every historical injustice. China will be on Russia's side so if Moscow and co are attacked then there will be no London or Manchester left either.

Again the white Brits will run to the American's for help to come and save their little island from total destruction. That will be the end of the imperialist union jack forever but for now I am happy to see the UK invaded by asylum seekers and refugee's every day. Anglo Saxons deserve it.

This isn't some James Bond film where foreigners are always the villains and Bond the pure white hater the hero. Putin with his own allies will rip the UK apart.

 

[PakLFC]

Oh dear, you are generalising even further and resorting to abuse, and sound a bit crazy.

I remind you about the pyramid of debate:

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Yes i see that when you lose a debate then need to find some way out to save your face from more humiliation. The Anglo Saxons are the root of every evil. America is controlled by Zionists who built Israel on Muslim land. The UK is a slave of America and Abu Ghraib perpetrators at most may get a few years in prison. Remember Raymond Davis who killed a Pakistani yet served no time at all in America after being released? There is nothing "oh dear" about it when you can't refute a single accusation of mines. As for your silly diagram where is the name calling and contradictions? Putin has every right to defend his country, every right. Too bad if you don't like it.

 

[PakLFC]

Make no mistake Putin can and will stop gas to the UK most probably this coming winter. Putin is waiting for the winter to punish the UK. That will be enough for the Anglo Saxons to be kissing Putin's feet. Many experts on the Russia-Ukraine war are warning the UK to be prepared for historical times ahead. You better start chopping the wood Robert just like the old man once did too keep yourself warm this winter.

 

[Robert]

And neither will you even dare attack Russia like you did Iraq and Afghanistan. I guarantee you Putin can attack the UK if he wants making queen and country grovel in front of him. Putin is right in saying that all this hate and war in the world is because of the Anglo Saxons who are the instigators of every historical injustice. China will be on Russia's side so if Moscow and co are attacked then there will be no London or Manchester left either.

Again the white Brits will run to the American's for help to come and save their little island from total destruction. That will be the end of the imperialist union jack forever but for now I am happy to see the UK invaded by asylum seekers and refugee's every day. Anglo Saxons deserve it.

This isn't some James Bond film where foreigners are always the villains and Bond the pure white hater the hero. Putin with his own allies will rip the UK apart.

Yes, that’s what the doctrine of Mutually Assured Destruction means. It’s been in place since the early 1960s. Instead of applying silly movie analogies, I recommend you read some history.

Putin is a very bad guy indeed, a despotic mass murderer and imperialist, who uses divisive language which you are repeating. So I suggest you look for better political heroes. There are plenty of peacemakers to chose from.

 

[Robert]

Make no mistake Putin can and will stop gas to the UK most probably this coming winter. Putin is waiting for the winter to punish the UK. That will be enough for the Anglo Saxons to be kissing Putin's feet. Many experts on the Russia-Ukraine war are warning the UK to be prepared for historical times ahead. You better start chopping the wood Robert just like the old man once did too keep yourself warm this winter.

Your scenario holds no terrors. Been there, done that. I’m one generation out of poverty. My old man got through far worse than you describe - the Great Depression and WW2.

I’m less worried by Putin than my own uncaring government who turn their backs on a million citizens who use food banks.

I’m not Anglo-Saxon either. My diagram applies as you have chosen to make this aggressively personal rather than stick to the thread, which I remind you is about Trump’s inability to understand staff-sacrifice for the greater good. I feel no need to refute any of your generalised arguments which do not pertain to this central point.

 

[PakLFC]

Yes, that’s what the doctrine of Mutually Assured Destruction means. It’s been in place since the early 1960s. Instead of applying silly movie analogies, I recommend you read some history.

Putin is a very bad guy indeed, a despotic mass murderer and imperialist, who uses divisive language which you are repeating. So I suggest you look for better political heroes. There are plenty of peacemakers to chose from.

But you miss the point here that the hypocrite white west can not treat Russia like Afghanistan or Iraq. The great Putin telling the imperialists he will bomb British cities has many of your generals having sleepless nights. Movie examples are needed as James Bond the western terrorist and propaganda machine needs to be killed too. We don't need lectures of peace from the white Brits who have killed so many innocents and enslaved millions during their bloody history. Read Shashi Tharoor's " Inglorious empire" that rips apart the UK's hypocrisy of peace and so forth.

Once again Putin will make the UK suffer.

 

[PakLFC]

Your scenario holds no terrors. Been there, done that. I’m one generation out of poverty. My old man got through far worse than you describe - the Great Depression and WW2.

I’m less worried by Putin than my own uncaring government who turn their backs on a million citizens who use food banks.

I’m not Anglo-Saxon either. My diagram applies as you have chosen to make this aggressively personal rather than stick to the thread, which I remind you is about Trump’s inability to understand staff-sacrifice for the greater good. I feel no need to refute any of your generalised arguments which do not pertain to this central point.

It is not me you need to fear but Mr Putin who who may turn off the gas. The old man may have gotten use to living on a cold loaf of bread but ya know come the winter if there is no gas then you will feel exactly how poor people have been doing in many countries when the UK bombed and poisoned there water supply among other things.

Well if your government would stop fighting America's wars than the white people who are now living on the streets of the UK begging for money would have plenty to eat. You reap what you sow! I have made it personal against indigenous Brits who have always supported America's wars then when their sons are killed wear a stupid looking poppy on their jacket. I don't respect murderers who went to kill innocents but got murdered themselves

The just of the argument is Trump is right even if he does not refer to all American soldiers. British soldiers are as guilty of murder as their American counterparts. The UK's historical sins will come to haunt it soon.

 

[Robert]

But you miss the point here that the hypocrite white west can not treat Russia like Afghanistan or Iraq. The great Putin telling the imperialists he will bomb British cities has many of your generals having sleepless nights. Movie examples are needed as James Bond the western terrorist and propaganda machine needs to be killed too. We don't need lectures of peace from the white Brits who have killed so many innocents and enslaved millions during their bloody history. Read Shashi Tharoor's " Inglorious empire" that rips apart the UK's hypocrisy of peace and so forth.

Once again Putin will make the UK suffer.

Yes, we know no nuclear-armed state has ever been invaded. Yes, we know the MAD doctrine has prevented WW3 for the past seventy years.

This has no relevance to Trump’s point, which is far more about Trump than the selfless behaviour of some individual soldiers. Audie Murphy for instance called down artillery fire on his own position as it was about to be overrun. To Trump, he would be a “loser” because he was prepared to give up his life for no personal gain. However the US Army lauded his esprit de corps with the Congressional Medal of Honour.

 

[Robert]

Well if your government would stop fighting America's wars than the white people who are now living on the streets of the UK begging for money would have plenty to eat.

People of all races, not just white people. This has nothing to do with military spend. The UK defence budget has been falling for decades. It’s due to the current Conservative government which has cut benefits to try to force people to go to work, but then does not do enough to create the jobs they need, plus a housing crisis where rented accommodation is simply unavailable.

 

[PakLFC]

Yes, we know no nuclear-armed state has ever been invaded. Yes, we know the MAD doctrine has prevented WW3 for the past seventy years.

This has no relevance to Trump’s point, which is far more about Trump than the selfless behaviour of some individual soldiers. Audie Murphy for instance called down artillery fire on his own position as it was about to be overrun. To Trump, he would be a “loser” because he was prepared to give up his life for no personal gain. However the US Army lauded his esprit de corps with the Congressional Medal of Honour.

My beef is with pro American killers like you who are trying to pain them in good light when there is nothing good about them. Trump is correct in his analysis calling these American solders names. That is another point I am making that America and the UK only attack defenseless countries never a China, Russia, Pak or even Iran. So I laugh when American and British soldiers are killed for the murderers they are.

 

[PakLFC]

People of all races, not just white people. This has nothing to do with military spend. The UK defence budget has been falling for decades. It’s due to the current Conservative government which has cut benefits to try to force people to go to work, but then does not do enough to create the jobs they need, plus a housing crisis where rented accommodation is simply unavailable.

Countries killing innocent people like NATO and America are hardcore white countries doing Israel's work so race does come in to it. All these things are unavailable because the UK keeps following American orders and dictations. We go out and kill people who have never harmed us in anyway. There is some good and honest Brits like George Galloway telling it they way it is.

 

[Robert]

My beef is with pro American killers like you who are trying to pain them in good light when there is nothing good about them. Trump is correct in his analysis calling these American solders names. That is another point I am making that America and the UK only attack defenseless countries never a China, Russia, Pak or even Iran. So I laugh when American and British soldiers are killed for the murderers they are.

I will bring this to a close. You’re just repeating yourself, and you seem filled with hate.

Goodbye.

 

[PakLFC]

I will bring this to a close. You’re just repeating yourself, and you seem filled with hate.

Goodbye.

I agree. I hate pro American military people like you who encourage the murder of innocent people. Who make murderers in to hero's until the chickens come home to roost.

 

[daytrader]

US Attorney General hints at prosecuting Trump over Capitol riot
Merrick Garland said his department would "hold accountable anyone who was criminally responsible for attempting to interfere with the transfer, legitimate lawful transfer of power from one administration to the next".

The US Attorney General has given his clearest indication yet that former President Donald Trump could be prosecuted for his role in attempting to overthrow the result of the 2020 election.

In an interview with NBC News, Merrick Garland spoke more explicitly than he has ever before about the Justice Department investigation into the 6 January Capitol riot and the events surrounding it.

"We pursue justice without fear of favour," the Attorney General told Nightly News anchor Lester Holt.

"We intend to hold everyone, anyone, who is criminally responsible for events surrounding January 6th or any attempt to interfere with the lawful transfer of power from one administration to another accountable. That's what we do. We don't pay any attention to other issues with respect to that," Garland said.

"So if Donald Trump was to become a candidate for president again that would not change your schedule or how you move forward or don't move forward?" Holt asked, suggesting that the indictment of Donald Trump "would arguably tear the country apart".

Garland replied: "I say again, that we will hold accountable anyone who was criminally responsible for attempting to interfere with the transfer, legitimate lawful transfer of power from one administration to the next."

Garland praised the work of the January 6th Committee whose public hearings over the past few months have shed new light on the events surrounding the storming of the US Capitol.

"It's an important part of democracy that every American recognises the truth of what happened on January 6th and time surrounding it," the Attorney General said.

He revealed that the Justice Department had learnt new information from the hearings.

"Look, the Justice Department has been doing the most wide-ranging investigation in its history. And the committee is doing an enormously wide-ranging investigation as well.

"It is inevitable that there will be things that they find before we have found them. And it's inevitable that there will be things we find that they haven't found. That's what happens when you have two wide-ranging investigations going on at the same time."

His spoke at the end of a day which saw Donald Trump return to Washington for the first time since he left office. The former President delivered the latest in a series of speeches that appear to be building to an announcement that he will run for the presidency again in 2024.

In a separate report, the Washington Post claims that the Justice Department is investigating Donald Trump's actions as part of a criminal investigation into efforts to overturn the 2020 election.

Prosecutors have been questioning witnesses before a grand jury. Over the past few days they have subpoenaed two top aides to former Vice-President Mike Pence and have asked about conversations and meetings Mr Trump had in December 2020 and early January 2021.

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