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London-based Kazi Rahman used to work cleaning plane toilets, but now has his sights set on becoming the "halal Richard Branson" by launching his own airline

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6412648/britain-sharia-muslim-airline/
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A similar experiment in Malaysia failed recently -> http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?236460-Sharia-style-Malaysian-airline-launched

I don't understand why they have to explicitly call it a "Sharia Airline" - it will only serve to drive non-Muslims away. In this day and age, an airline - start-up or established needs all the pax it can get, so feel free to not serve pork, booze, etc. but just don't say it out loud - some gullible customers won't know until they board the flights...at least the first time.
 
Seen businesses like this started up before based more on idealism rather than financial sense. It will bomb, I think most Muslim passengers just want to get from A to B, not really bothered what the hostesses are wearing or serving. Crap idea.
 
You say that it’s going to drive non-Muslims away but it’s most probably going to drive away many Muslims as well, because I probably wouldn’t fly with that airline.
 
I am not sure he has a very good business acumen. Forget whether this airline will sell tickets, What was the point of buying a 60k a month airplane before he even had a contract with an airport.
 
Why not just don’t buy alcohol or pork if it’s on the menu / trolley ?
 
James said:
Why not just don’t buy alcohol or pork if it’s on the menu / trolley ?
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Tbf many Muslims would feel uncomforatble if they are surrounded by drunk people in a tight space up in the air. As for Pork if its cold it shouldn't be a problem but if its hot, I find the smell revolting so again people will feel uncomforatble.
 
Will go the way of the Mecca Colas, Sharia dating sites and other marketing gimmicks. Don't think the people who come up with this have religion in mind, just a way to make a quick buck.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Tbf many Muslims would feel uncomforatble if they are surrounded by drunk people in a tight space up in the air. As for Pork if its cold it shouldn't be a problem but if its hot, I find the smell revolting so again people will feel uncomforatble.
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I have taken hundreds of flights and never witnessed a drunk passenger on a flight, most pilots will not allow intoxicated people board their planes anyway. Maybe drunks on planes is a british thing.
 
Total scam.

[MENTION=732]Gilly[/MENTION].... holiday flights. Brits have an unhealthy relationship with alcohol.
 
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KingKhanWC said:
Tbf many Muslims would feel uncomforatble if they are surrounded by drunk people in a tight space up in the air. As for Pork if its cold it shouldn't be a problem but if its hot, I find the smell revolting so again people will feel uncomforatble.
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Are drunk people on planes a common sight on British flights.

Never saw a drunk person in Pakistani and UAE airlines but even on American Airlines. Some people have a glass of wine or beer at max.

Idea is doomed from the beginning. Apart from halal eateries and catered financial products in iislamic countries, Never has a mass product specially catered to a religion worked in my experience be it Mecca Cola or Muslim Facebook
 
Slog said:
Are drunk people on planes a common sight on British flights.

Never saw a drunk person in Pakistani and UAE airlines but even on American Airlines. Some people have a glass of wine or beer at max.

Idea is doomed from the beginning. Apart from halal eateries and catered financial products in iislamic countries, Never has a mass product specially catered to a religion worked in my experience be it Mecca Cola or Muslim Facebook
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Just finished watching the documentary.... it's just a scam. He's using it as a gimmick to raise money and spending other peoples money that he already has, once that runs out, so will this.

I wouldn't hire him to run a shop ... he seemed quite underhanded despite having outward veneer of religiousity.
 
Many Muslim's look upon watching TV as being outlawed as well in Islam so no entertainment in his flights? Hope the air stewardesses won't be in burkha's!:afridi1
 
So basically it is going to be a airline that does not cater to the general public and is designed to exclude anyone that is not muslim.
 
Gilly said:
So basically it is going to be a airline that does not cater to the general public and is designed to exclude anyone that is not muslim.
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No. It would be designed for Muslim people with non Muslim's most welcome providing they agree to the rules. Much like a halal restaurant where only those will visit who want halal food irrespective of faith. Many non Muslim's love halal food as well:saslam
 
PakLFC said:
No. It would be designed for Muslim people with non Muslim's most welcome providing they agree to the rules. Much like a halal restaurant where only those will visit who want halal food irrespective of faith. Many non Muslim's love halal food as well:saslam
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So you are welcome on these flights as long as you accept that you must obey muslim rules and give up your rights.
 
Gilly said:
So you are welcome on these flights as long as you accept that you must obey muslim rules and give up your rights.
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Alcohol and pork in a private airline is a right? Not getting your favorite food or drink in an airline doesn't count as giving up your rights.
 
El Generico said:
Alcohol and pork in a private airline is a right? Not getting your favorite food or drink in an airline doesn't count as giving up your rights.
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So I could take my own alcohol or pork on the plane then?. What about dress code do I have the right to wear what I want?.
 
Gilly said:
Depends what you consider rights James, if I owned a shopping centre in England do I have the right to prevent women wearing Hijabs from entering?.
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In my view, no one does not have that right.

Bacon and booze though? Surely one can go without those things for at least a 7-hour flight?
 
James said:
In my view, no one does not have that right.

Bacon and booze though? Surely one can go without those things for at least a 7-hour flight?
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Gets a little confusing now doesent it when you bend the rules here and there to appease one group.
 
Gilly said:
So I could take my own alcohol or pork on the plane then?. What about dress code do I have the right to wear what I want?.
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It's a private enterprise. The solution is very easy. You do not pay for their services and take your business elsewhere
 
Slog said:
It's a private enterprise. The solution is very easy. You do not pay for their services and take your business elsewhere
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So I would have the right to refuse entry to someone wearing a hijab because its a private enterprise and they can take their bussiness elsewhere.
 
Gilly said:
So I would have the right to refuse entry to someone wearing a hijab because its a private enterprise and they can take their bussiness elsewhere.
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Wearing hijab comes under religious rights which is protected in most constitutions.Is someone infringing on someone's fundamental rights by not offering pork and drinks?

The Hijab comparsion makes no sense. A better comparsion would be with Halal Food. Most airplanes don't offer Halal food, how is that any differnet to this airline not offering pork?
 
Gilly said:
Gets a little confusing now doesent it when you bend the rules here and there to appease one group.
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How are the rules being bend? I don't know much about UK rules/regulations, is it compulsory to offer bacon/drinks in a flight? What rules are being bend to accommodate this airline?
 
El Generico said:
How are the rules being bend? I don't know much about UK rules/regulations, is it compulsory to offer bacon/drinks in a flight? What rules are being bend to accommodate this airline?
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Ok so this airline has introduced a dress code to comply with muslim religious beliefs which discriminates against non muslims and they have to conform to muslim requirements.

A shop owner cannot introduce a dress code that discriminates against muslims and requires them to conform.

Explain the difference.
 
Furthermore he will only hire female staff that will wear the hijab, is that discrimination can a business person refuse to hire someone that wears the hijab?.
 
El Generico said:
Wearing hijab comes under religious rights which is protected in most constitutions.Is someone infringing on someone's fundamental rights by not offering pork and drinks?

The Hijab comparsion makes no sense. A better comparsion would be with Halal Food. Most airplanes don't offer Halal food, how is that any differnet to this airline not offering pork?
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Hypocrisy in this post is.... I have no words for it to be honest.
 
Itachi said:
Hypocrisy in this post is.... I have no words for it to be honest.
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Please point out the hypocrisy. Hijab is religious clothing and comes under religious rights while pork/drinks don't. I would crticisize the owner if he stopped people from wearing a Kippah,turban, or any other religious symbols.

Like i said most airlines don't have Halal food, how is this any differnet?
 
El Generico said:
Please point out the hypocrisy. Hijab is religious clothing and comes under religious rights while pork/drinks don't. I would crticisize the owner if he stopped people from wearing a Kippah,turban, or any other religious symbols.

Like i said most airlines don't have Halal food, how is this any differnet?
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Will he only employ muslim cabin staff and discriminate against non muslims, would you be OK with that.
 
Gilly said:
Furthermore he will only hire female staff that will wear the hijab, is that discrimination can a business person refuse to hire someone that wears the hijab?.
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Many restaurants/stores have dress code for woman employees which require them to wear short skirts and high heels. If a woman for religious/moral reasons refuses to wear those things then they wouldn't get the job. Similarly this job has Hijab as part of the uniform, not very differnet to a restaurant having skirts or high heels as part of their uniform.

If this guy doesn't allow his workers to wear other religions clothing/symbols then that's wrong. If he only hires Muslim woman that wear the hijab then that is is an issue as well. Having Hijab as part of the uniform is not the same as only hiring Hijabis.
 
Gilly said:
Will he only employ muslim cabin staff and discriminate against non muslims, would you be OK with that.
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Like i said in my earlier post, if he only hires Muslims then that's wrong and possibly illegal as well.

Anyways i doubt this airline would ever start and even if it does, it won't last long. There is no market for it.
 
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Gilly said:
I have taken hundreds of flights and never witnessed a drunk passenger on a flight, most pilots will not allow intoxicated people board their planes anyway. Maybe drunks on planes is a british thing.
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Slog said:
Are drunk people on planes a common sight on British flights.

Never saw a drunk person in Pakistani and UAE airlines but even on American Airlines. Some people have a glass of wine or beer at max.

Idea is doomed from the beginning. Apart from halal eateries and catered financial products in iislamic countries, Never has a mass product specially catered to a religion worked in my experience be it Mecca Cola or Muslim Facebook
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It does depend on the airline and destination but yes it's not uncommon to see drunk passengers behaving foolishly on planes. The lower budget airlines are worse esp if the destinations include holiday resorts. I was on a flight to Amsterdam a few months ago, three or four lads couldn't handle their beer and were being loud.

Even if most people drink quietly, many Muslims may not want the smell of alcohol near them. If someone has wine or beer and is sat next to you, the smell can be strong.

Plenty of airlines which cater mostly for Muslim customers dont serve alcohol.
 
Reminds me of the 'Punjabi' airline some clown in the UK started a few years ago. They were planning to connect London and Birmingham to Amritsar in India, serving Punjabi cuisine on board and what not. They lasted exactly a week.
This halal airline ain't gonna get off the ground.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Seen businesses like this started up before based more on idealism rather than financial sense. It will bomb, I think most Muslim passengers just want to get from A to B, not really bothered what the hostesses are wearing or serving. Crap idea.
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Its just business. As long as fares are competitive.
 
KingKhanWC said:
It does depend on the airline and destination but yes it's not uncommon to see drunk passengers behaving foolishly on planes. The lower budget airlines are worse esp if the destinations include holiday resorts. I was on a flight to Amsterdam a few months ago, three or four lads couldn't handle their beer and were being loud.

Even if most people drink quietly, many Muslims may not want the smell of alcohol near them. If someone has wine or beer and is sat next to you, the smell can be strong.

Plenty of airlines which cater mostly for Muslim customers dont serve alcohol.
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So what would be the deal, if you have a ticket but have a few quiet drinks at the airport then board the plane they can kick you off for smelling like alcohol.

Imagine the outrage if someone didnt want to sit next to someone who smelt like curry.
 
In a way it's a shame this venture is likely to tank, it would have provided much potential for PP outrage over clothing and diet restrictions for a few years if it (literally) got off the ground.
 
lol what a dumb idea. I got a better suggestion and if you really want to act as a good Muslim then start up a flight for less fortunate people with minimal rates. Flights these days are ridiculously expensive, help out your brothers and humanity :moyo
 
Gilly said:
So you are welcome on these flights as long as you accept that you must obey muslim rules and give up your rights.
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Yes! Every place has certain rules. In all public places there are many things people can not do. If you don't like it then stay away.
 
Any status state on this from British Pakistanis would be appreciated.
 
El Generico said:
Wearing hijab comes under religious rights which is protected in most constitutions.Is someone infringing on someone's fundamental rights by not offering pork and drinks?

The Hijab comparsion makes no sense. A better comparsion would be with Halal Food. Most airplanes don't offer Halal food, how is that any differnet to this airline not offering pork?
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He’s a known islamophobe, a rabid one at that. Probably called Girish as well
 
There is no such thing as a "Shariah Airline" just like no such thing as a "Shaiah Car" or "Shariah Train" etc...

Someone selling snake oil
 
LordJames said:
There is no such thing as a "Shariah Airline" just like no such thing as a "Shaiah Car" or "Shariah Train" etc...

Someone selling snake oil
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May be halal airline would work. The food served will be halal and alcohol is not provided.
 
Kriketer said:
lol what a dumb idea. I got a better suggestion and if you really want to act as a good Muslim then start up a flight for less fortunate people with minimal rates. Flights these days are ridiculously expensive, help out your brothers and humanity :moyo
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This is a good idea.

Actually, gulf states can easily do this if they want to. They have tons of money.
 
Champ_Pal said:
May be halal airline would work. The food served will be halal and alcohol is not provided.
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There is no such thing as "Halal airline". Even in an Islamic country, Alcohol is allowed to be sold and consumed by Non-Muslims and pork will also be permissible for Non-Muslims to be consumed. If a Muslim vigilante attacks Alcohol & Pork then the Muslim state will prosecute and pay for the damages from the state funds.

Muslims have lived with non-Muslims side-by-side for centuries in many parts of the world, the only places where Non-Muslims are permitted are Makkah and Madina.

The only thing Non-Muslims are not allowed is to propagate their beliefs outside of designated areas, they can practice and eat and drink whatever they want, live by their customs.​
 
Sorry! not permitted in Makkah and Madina.

1 more thing. Non-Muslims can choose to have their affairs decided by Islamic Shariah optionally...like inheritance etc but its not binding on them. They may do it because of some outwardly benefit OR genuinely want Islamic judgement
 
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