UKIP leadership candidate wants to pay British Indians to leave UK to cut 'unnecessary population'

[TSA321]

http://uk.businessinsider.com/ukip-...ndians-to-leave-the-uk-john-rees-evans-2017-8

British Indians would be paid to leave the UK in order to "reduce unnecessary population" under proposals by a candidate to be the next UKIP leader.

John Rees-Evans wants to take money from the £12 billion foreign aid budget in order to pay for his scheme to remove a million people from Britain every year.

Rees-Evans, who famously accused a gay donkey of raping his horse, is one of eleven people in the running for Ukip leader, including anti-Islam campaigner Ann Marie Waters.

Using the examples of British citizens with Indian or Tanzanian heritage, Rees-Evans said: "We would reduce the cost of living in this country and we'd incentivise people who are not doing particularly well in this country to leave and return to their country where they can create a thriving business and improve our lives here in Britain."

His proposed "fast-track" scheme would give dual-nationals £9,000 plus healthcare to "return to their country of origin," which he believes would "create jobs in this country, reduce unnecessary population and reduce the strain on infrastructure in Britain."

Labour MP Rupa Huq told the Daily Mirror newspaper: "This is not even dog whistle politics - it's as subtle as a crowbar.

"Luckily this ridiculous idea from the fourth placed favourite candidate of a party clearly on the skids which smacks of attention-grabbing desperation is going nowhere."

Ukip's home affairs spokesperson Jane Collins, who is also standing to be leader, said the idea had "very worrying undertones."

She said: "There was a similar policy in the BNP's 2010 manifesto. I want British residents who run businesses to stay here and run a business here and employ people. For millions of people this is their home."

Rees-Evans claimed his repatriation policy is "not going to be draconian, it's not going to be fascist. I'm not interested in using eugenics or any evil things like that."

Fellow leadership contender Marie-Waters told BI last week that immigration from "Muslim societies" is the "biggest threat" to the UK, although another candidate said they would "absolutely" consider their membership of Ukip if Marie-Waters was elected.

Ukip gained no seats in June's general election, and have seen three different leaders resign since 2016.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Is there a radio show discussing this issue airing soon? Maybe someone can call in and explain to the listeners how well loved the Indians are in the UK just as an FYI.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Jeevun Sandher getting torn to shreds here for claiming Winston Churchill wasn't an ethnic Brit

 

[RexRex]

Jeevun Sandher getting torn to shreds here for claiming Winston Churchill wasn't an ethnic Brit

You should try and be more like patriot Jeevun instead of subscribing to far-right youtube channels.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Is there a radio show discussing this issue airing soon? Maybe someone can call in and explain to the listeners how well loved the Indians are in the UK just as an FYI.

I just want the gofund me link please

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

You should try and be more like patriot Jeevun instead of subscribing to far-right youtube channels.

You needed to give that advice to @Rajdeep because he was the one who lauded Tommy Robinson, and when I looked up Tommy, suddenly I started getting these channels popping up in my feed.

These channels are also making many similar points which are echoed by PP Indian family, except perhaps the unwelcome parties have a different flag.

 

[finalfantasy7]

Jeevun Sandher getting torn to shreds here for claiming Winston Churchill wasn't an ethnic Brit

@Rajdeep @cricketjoshila @Champ_Pal @Devadwal @uppercut @straighttalk @Vikram1989 @Varun @Romali_rotti @Bhaijaan @Cover Drive Six @rickroll @RexRex @rpant_gabba, @Romali_rotti @kron @globetrotter @Hitman @jnaveen1980 @Local.Dada @CrIc_Mystique @Van_Sri @nish_mate @SportsWarrior @kaayal @saimayubera

 

[Varun]

I notice the thread is from 2017, but regardless I absolutely support this move.

Britain should follow through on this.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Man U Chairman trying to stop the flood?

Man Utd co-owner Ratcliffe blasted by Starmer for UK 'colonised by immigrants' remark

Prime Minister said the football chief’s comment was ‘offensive and wrong’ and should apologise

www.standard.co.uk

 

[ghalib kichlu]

maybe the Indians can move to Uganda or rwanda
Can we keep the South Indians , otherwise we would extremely short of kerala nurses for home visits etc

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

maybe the Indians can move to Uganda or rwanda
Can we keep the South Indians , otherwise we would extremely short of kerala nurses for home visits etc

I think the focus will be to stop them coming here in the first place. Any trade deals struck with India will set alarm bells ringing among the indiginous white population same way it has in the USA.

The locals don't want to be replaced by a foreign culture.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

I think the focus will be to stop them coming here in the first place. Any trade deals struck with India will set alarm bells ringing among the indiginous white population same way it has in the USA.

The locals don't want to be replaced by a foreign culture.

I think part of the Trade deal was not to compromise on the immigration policy in place regarding indians.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I think part of the Trade deal was not to compromise on the immigration policy in place regarding indians.

Let's hope so, there is more than enough of them here already.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Let's hope so, there is more than enough of them here already.

Absolutely. What i can't understand, if indias Economy is projected as a high flyer, and the country is heading towards a developed nation, then why are Indians desperately leaving, with some taking drastic measures to get out.

 

[Red-Indian]

maybe the Indians can move to Uganda or rwanda
Can we keep the South Indians , otherwise we would extremely short of kerala nurses for home visits etc

I actually think everyone on the island should be subjected to DNA tests and anyone not profiling as at least 80% Celtic/Anglo Saxon/Norman ancestry should be forcibly deported. Maybe they can do a 100 year cutoff for exceptions...i.e. if folks can prove 100 years of ancestral residency in the country.

It's absurd that the poor whites are forced to tolerate so many browns/blacks who don't look British at all in their country.

 

[RexRex]

I actually think everyone on the island should be subjected to DNA tests and anyone not profiling as at least 80% Celtic/Anglo Saxon/Norman ancestry should be forcibly deported. Maybe they can do a 100 year cutoff for exceptions...i.e. if folks can prove 100 years of ancestral residency in the country.

It's absurd that the poor whites are forced to tolerate so many browns/blacks who don't look British at all in their country.

Next step is denaturalization of british asian citizens and sending em back to South Asia, particularly those who came in the 1960s and 70s and their offspring. Only caucasians plz in the Anglo-saxon Isles.

 

[Red-Indian]

Next step is denaturalization of british asian citizens and sending em back to South Asia, particularly those who came in the 1960s and 70s and their offspring. Only caucasians plz in the Anglo-saxon Isles.

To be honest, I think that's covered in my at least 100 years of continuous ancestral residency criteria.

I don't see how anyone could possibly object. Britain for the Brits! All migrants out!

I suppose they need a backup plan for immigrants who can't return to their country of origin or maybe that country doesn't accept them. @aboveandbeyond had a very practical solution - a deal with Rwanda or Uganda or maybe a Central Asian country that has plenty of space - Kazakhstan maybe?

 

[KingKhanWC]

I actually think everyone on the island should be subjected to DNA tests and anyone not profiling as at least 80% Celtic/Anglo Saxon/Norman ancestry should be forcibly deported. Maybe they can do a 100 year cutoff for exceptions...i.e. if folks can prove 100 years of ancestral residency in the country.

It's absurd that the poor whites are forced to tolerate so many browns/blacks who don't look British at all in their country.

Two issues here.

1. Why 100 years?

2. Brits invaded most of the known world, wiped out entire races of people. Why should they complain now? Its not like the immigrants are shooting hundreds of white people dead daily.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I actually think everyone on the island should be subjected to DNA tests and anyone not profiling as at least 80% Celtic/Anglo Saxon/Norman ancestry should be forcibly deported. Maybe they can do a 100 year cutoff for exceptions...i.e. if folks can prove 100 years of ancestral residency in the country.

It's absurd that the poor whites are forced to tolerate so many browns/blacks who don't look British at all in their country.

Tommy Robinson's anti-Islam agenda was always going to be exposed. Gullible immigrants like @Rajdeep and chums didn't really think this through. Tommy is the tip of the iceberg as prominent Jewish podcaster Andrew Gold found out. There is an undercurrent of Anglo Saxon fear of being wiped out and replaced by non-white immigrants. This is being raised all across the western world, and unless Indians are forcible remigrated, the future of English heritage cannot be preserved.

 

[Red-Indian]

Two issues here.

1. Why 100 years?

2. Brits invaded most of the known world, wiped out entire races of people. Why should they complain now? Its not like the immigrants are shooting hundreds of white people dead daily.

1. I'm open to negotiation on the 100. They can go longer if needed but the line has to be drawn somewhere. However, it felt like post 1920s is when immigration really started. Before that, with lack of knowledge and huge risks while traveling, only the very few bravest would've traveled. I think if they manage to deport anyone (and their descendants) who arrived after 1925, they should be pretty well covered in terms of returning Britain to the true Brits

2. They shouldn't really complain it's true but they are complaining now anyway. You can't really hold the current generation of Brits responsible for the misdeeds of their ancestors. They may have allowed folks in the past but they want their country back now and all non-Brits should leave.

 

[KingKhanWC]

1. I'm open to negotiation on the 100. They can go longer if needed but the line has to be drawn somewhere. However, it felt like post 1920s is when immigration really started. Before that, with lack of knowledge and huge risks while traveling, only the very few bravest would've traveled. I think if they manage to deport anyone (and their descendants) who arrived after 1925, they should be pretty well covered in terms of returning Britain to the true Brits

2. They shouldn't really complain it's true but they are complaining now anyway. You can't really hold the current generation of Brits responsible for the misdeeds of their ancestors. They may have allowed folks in the past but they want their country back now and all non-Brits should leave.

1. Britain invited immigrants after world war 2. My dad came to the UK in the 60's, he was given a job immediately and has paid more taxes over the years than most Brits do in their lifetime. Immigration after 20's to 70's was a must.

Why not go to the first Britain? Do you know who he was?

2. The current generation are reaping the rewards of colonisation. Pay back everything you've inherited through colonisation and only then can they moan about others arriving here.

I'm against certain immigration too but for me its for those who use services without paying a lot of tax. I dont see why my taxes should be used on people arriving here not willing to work or contribute, they should be deported on arrival to the country they arrived from.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I find it funny when desi immigrants have a go at other immigrants.

Many of desi immigrants usually also believe that British people introduced a divide and conquer policy in United India and before that everything was rosy.

They don't see the irony in dividing and conquering themselves.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

I actually think everyone on the island should be subjected to DNA tests and anyone not profiling as at least 80% Celtic/Anglo Saxon/Norman ancestry should be forcibly deported. Maybe they can do a 100 year cutoff for exceptions...i.e. if folks can prove 100 years of ancestral residency in the country.

It's absurd that the poor whites are forced to tolerate so many browns/blacks who don't look British at all in their country.

Check on a DNA test. Maybe Hitlers bloodline maybe something of interest!

 

[Red-Indian]

1. Britain invited immigrants after world war 2. My dad came to the UK in the 60's, he was given a job immediately and has paid more taxes over the years than most Brits do in their lifetime. Immigration after 20's to 70's was a must.

Why not go to the first Britain? Do you know who he was?

2. The current generation are reaping the rewards of colonisation. Pay back everything you've inherited through colonisation and only then can they moan about others arriving here.

I'm against certain immigration too but for me its for those who use services without paying a lot of tax. I dont see why my taxes should be used on people arriving here not willing to work or contribute, they should be deported on arrival to the country they arrived from.

1. Sure they did. They needed them then but it seems like they don't need them now. I get your point about how far to go back and it's tough to draw a perfect line which is why I suggested 100 years but negotiable

2. I don't think they are reaping much rewards now to be honest. Britain is getting poorer. I get your point about newer immigrants who're more freeloading but they might argue they just need more settling in time.

I also think the main complaint is not economic but as @Cpt. Rishwat says, cultural, so the problem won't be solved just by deporting recent immigrants - legal or illegal. They just need to do a clean slate going back 100 years or so. Yes there'll be some human impact but the core issue will be resolved.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

1. Sure they did. They needed them then but it seems like they don't need them now. I get your point about how far to go back and it's tough to draw a perfect line which is why I suggested 100 years but negotiable

2. I don't think they are reaping much rewards now to be honest. Britain is getting poorer. I get your point about newer immigrants who're more freeloading but they might argue they just need more settling in time.

I also think the main complaint is not economic but as @Cpt. Rishwat says, cultural, so the problem won't be solved just by deporting recent immigrants - legal or illegal. They just need to do a clean slate going back 100 years or so. Yes there'll be some human impact but the core issue will be resolved.

It is definitely a cultural problem, and at least you are recognising it. Mostly all I have seen from Indian posters is dog whistle nonsense hoping no one will look closer.

 

[KingKhanWC]

1. Sure they did. They needed them then but it seems like they don't need them now. I get your point about how far to go back and it's tough to draw a perfect line which is why I suggested 100 years but negotiable

2. I don't think they are reaping much rewards now to be honest. Britain is getting poorer. I get your point about newer immigrants who're more freeloading but they might argue they just need more settling in time.

I also think the main complaint is not economic but as @Cpt. Rishwat says, cultural, so the problem won't be solved just by deporting recent immigrants - legal or illegal. They just need to do a clean slate going back 100 years or so. Yes there'll be some human impact but the core issue will be resolved.

1. Almost no far right or nationalist knows this but its interesting to bring up when debating them.

First modern Britons had 'dark to black' skin, Cheddar Man DNA analysis reveals

The genome of Cheddar Man, who lived 10,000 years ago, suggests that he had blue eyes, dark skin and dark curly hair

www.theguardian.com

2. Only the lazy bums are getting poorer, its a shame there is a large majority of such people in the UK not just white but various backgrounds. Such people who are broke, ugly and lazy like to blame others for their miserable life.

3. In terms of culture, what is British culture? Any ideas?

 

[Red-Indian]

1. Almost no far right or nationalist knows this but its interesting to bring up when debating them.

First modern Britons had 'dark to black' skin, Cheddar Man DNA analysis reveals

The genome of Cheddar Man, who lived 10,000 years ago, suggests that he had blue eyes, dark skin and dark curly hair

www.theguardian.com

2. Only the lazy bums are getting poorer, its a shame there is a large majority of such people in the UK not just white but various backgrounds. Such people who are broke, ugly and lazy like to blame others for their miserable life.

3. In terms of culture, what is British culture? Any ideas?

1. I'm pretty conversant with that but even if you brought it up with the far right or nationalists, I doubt they'd be interested. They're pretty clear in their heads on what a Brit should look like and some ancient skeleton isn't going to convince them otherwise

2. Sure but I can see their perspective. Britain was a lot richer when it didn't have so many browns and blacks

3. I don't know to be honest though I grew up on a lot of British content - books and TV. Maybe we should ask a British white. If pushed, I would imagine it would be some combination of fish and chips, football, warm beer and no heathen gods...none of these Krishna, Allah, Yehovah types.

 

[Red-Indian]

It is definitely a cultural problem, and at least you are recognising it. Mostly all I have seen from Indian posters is dog whistle nonsense hoping no one will look closer.

Oh I recognise it alright. It's a pity guys like @aboveandbeyond, @KingKhanWC and @Rajdeep can't and don't just voluntarily vacate the country. I'm glad you do and I suppose are always ready with your bags packed to leave when the call comes.

 

[KingKhanWC]

1. I'm pretty conversant with that but even if you brought it up with the far right or nationalists, I doubt they'd be interested. They're pretty clear in their heads on what a Brit should look like and some ancient skeleton isn't going to convince them otherwise

2. Sure but I can see their perspective. Britain was a lot richer when it didn't have so many browns and blacks

3. I don't know to be honest though I grew up on a lot of British content - books and TV. Maybe we should ask a British white. If pushed, I would imagine it would be some combination of fish and chips, football, warm beer and no heathen gods...none of these Krishna, Allah, Yehovah types.

Far right are thick af thats why. These people are the dirt of British society, domestic violence increases by 30%+ when their football team loses. I dont waste my time worrying what these lowlifes think.

2. Not true, UK has more millionaires now than it ever did when it was all white.

3. This is a good viral point

"“Being British is all about driving a German car to an Irish theme pub to drink Belgian beer then going home buying an Indian take-away to sit on a Swedish sofa infront of a Japanese television to watch American shows and all the while being suspicious of anything foreign”.

British culture is immigrant culture.

This is Birmingham British Culture in the 90s,

 

[RexRex]

1. Sure they did. They needed them then but it seems like they don't need them now. I get your point about how far to go back and it's tough to draw a perfect line which is why I suggested 100 years but negotiable

I didn't realise you were serious about the 100 yrs. I was being tongue-in-cheek, taking a poke at how everybody is happy to be immigration restictionist as long as is doesn't affect them or how the old immigrants are happy to shut the door on the new ones.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Oh I recognise it alright. It's a pity guys like @aboveandbeyond, @KingKhanWC and @Rajdeep can't and don't just voluntarily vacate the country. I'm glad you do and I suppose are always ready with your bags packed to leave when the call comes.

The bags aren't packed yet, but I do have options and am mulling them over. Would be a wrench to leave behind a place which has shaped my culture and which has made me so popular on platforms like this one. Where would I go?

 

[Red-Indian]

I didn't realise you were serious about the 100 yrs. I was being tongue-in-cheek, taking a poke at how everybody is happy to be immigration restictionist as long as is doesn't affect them or how the old immigrants are happy to shut the door on the new ones.

Oh I'm dead serious. We need to roll things in the world back to the golden 1920s or so or we won't be able to truly assuage the anger of these anti-immigrant folks.

The guys in this thread who squeezed in when the gates were looser are pissed off about the recent 'paindoo' immigrants who aren't contributing their fair share.

The whites are pissed off at everyone who looks, sounds, behaves and worships different.

Just reversing the current round of migration will only make the previous round of 'paindoos' happy. We need more radical solutions.

 

[Red-Indian]

The bags aren't packed yet, but I do have options and am mulling them over. Would be a wrench to leave behind a place which has shaped my culture and which has made me so popular on platforms like this one. Where would I go?

I would suggest Pakistan or India if you're willing to work on your accent and mannerisms. Anywhere else, you'd still be an other...biding time till the anti-immigrant sentiment wave hits and forces you to move again.

In the subcontinent, you'd at least look right and you're anyway familiar with and passionate about local politics.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I would suggest Pakistan or India if you're willing to work on your accent and mannerisms. Anywhere else, you'd still be an other...biding time till the anti-immigrant sentiment wave hits and forces you to move again.

In the subcontinent, you'd at least look right and you're anyway familiar with and passionate about local politics.

Would be possible but a big wrench for me. I have said many times on here that Pakistani culture leaves me cold, whereas in Britain I am actually more articulate than many of the indiginous Brits...or at least the masses who make up the lower and middle classes.

I should stress, I don't face any personal issues at all living here currently, but with the rise of the far right across Europe one should always be prepared for sudden shifts in the national mood.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Oh I recognise it alright. It's a pity guys like @aboveandbeyond, @KingKhanWC and @Rajdeep can't and don't just voluntarily vacate the country. I'm glad you do and I suppose are always ready with your bags packed to leave when the call comes.

And were would i go.

 

[Red-Indian]

And were would i go.

@Cpt. Rishwat had the same question and I gave him an answer. I suppose it would apply to you as well.

You wouldn't even have to leave if you can show 80% descent from Celtic/Saxon/Norman ancestry, look 'right' and have made an effort to assimilate - Church of England, fish and chips, warm beer, god save the king etc.

If not, by moving early before the current anti-immigrant sentiment really takes over, you'd be setting the right example for the new guys like @Rajdeep and other Indian/Pakistani who're trying to get into the UK.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

@Cpt. Rishwat had the same question and I gave him an answer. I suppose it would apply to you as well.

You wouldn't even have to leave if you can show 80% descent from Celtic/Saxon/Norman ancestry, look 'right' and have made an effort to assimilate - Church of England, fish and chips, warm beer, god save the king etc.

If not, by moving early before the current anti-immigrant sentiment really takes over, you'd be setting the right example for the new guys like @Rajdeep and other Indian/Pakistani who're trying to get into the UK.

@Cpt. Rishwat is a proud Brit who im sure is a beacon of hope for aspiring Brits to be successful.

As for @Rajdeep . Hes a patriotic Tommy Robinson disciple, which suggests his integration is on Track

As for my circumstances I may well be a lost cause. With Both Parents proud Brits with immigrant backgrounds. But maybe with your logic, I may still have to be deported.

 

[Red-Indian]

@Cpt. Rishwat is a proud Brit who im sure is a beacon of hope for aspiring Brits to be successful.

As for @Rajdeep . Hes a patriotic Tommy Robinson disciple, which suggests his integration is on Track

As for my circumstances I may well be a lost cause. With Both Parents proud Brits with immigrant backgrounds. But maybe with your logic, I may still have to be deported.

I don't know. He seems unsure he'll be allowed to stay given the atmosphere in Britain. He was already exploring options. I just suggested India/Pakistan because he'd look 'right' there. Anywhere else would potentially only be a waystation again.

You're right that your situation is harder if you don't quite fit in anywhere. You did suggest Uganda and Rwanda earlier in the thread. Maybe that could be an option?

 

[aboveandbeyond]

I don't know. He seems unsure he'll be allowed to stay given the atmosphere in Britain. He was already exploring options. I just suggested India/Pakistan because he'd look 'right' there. Anywhere else would potentially only be a waystation again.

You're right that your situation is harder if you don't quite fit in anywhere. You did suggest Uganda and Rwanda earlier in the thread. Maybe that could be an option?

Where did I suggest Uganda or Rwanda

 

[aboveandbeyond]

I don't know. He seems unsure he'll be allowed to stay given the atmosphere in Britain. He was already exploring options. I just suggested India/Pakistan because he'd look 'right' there. Anywhere else would potentially only be a waystation again.

You're right that your situation is harder if you don't quite fit in anywhere. You did suggest Uganda and Rwanda earlier in the thread. Maybe that could be an option?

Remember. One of my Parent's is white and English. So be lenient on me please.

 

[Red-Indian]

Remember. One of my Parent's is white and English. So be lenient on me please.

Not on me to be lenient. I live in India and don't complain. Unlike a lot of others who keep cribbing about Bangladeshi immigrants, I personally don't think our culture or economy is threatened by the poor labourers who somehow make it across in search of a better life.

The white Brits seem threatened though - both culturally and economically. It's obviously hard on the likes of you and Rishwat since you've spent you're entire lives there but obviously the white Brits have the same attitude towards you that you have towards the guys trying to get into the UK now i.e. that you don't belong and should get out.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Not on me to be lenient. I live in India and don't complain. Unlike a lot of others who keep cribbing about Bangladeshi immigrants, I personally don't think our culture or economy is threatened by the poor labourers who somehow make it across in search of a better life.

The white Brits seem threatened though - both culturally and economically. It's obviously hard on the likes of you and Rishwat since you've spent you're entire lives there but obviously the white Brits have the same attitude towards you that you have towards the guys trying to get into the UK now i.e. that you don't belong and should get out.

I have zero issues with legitimate immigration. But dont be fooled with the natives being threatened with immigrants who are taking up low skilled jobs.

That's precisely the reason why the economy after Brexit is partly tanking with native Brits refusing to take low paid low skill jobs, be it in the NHS or in general.

Why would I feel threatened by a fellow Brit, when my ethnicity is related more towards the natives. Who themselves are immigrants from the past. Scandinavian to be precise when it comes to my mother.

 

[Red-Indian]

I have zero issues with legitimate immigration. But dont be fooled with the natives being threatened with immigrants who are taking up low skilled jobs.

That's precisely the reason why the economy after Brexit is partly tanking with native Brits refusing to take low paid low skill jobs, be it in the NHS or in general.

Why would I feel threatened by a fellow Brit, when my ethnicity is related more towards the natives. Who themselves are immigrants from the past. Scandinavian to be precise when it comes to my mother.

Ah I'm glad you at least recognise it's about ethnicity. I'm no one to judge but maybe your partial Scandinavian ethnicity will protect you when the time comes as long as you're willing to blend in other ways.

Still leaves the likes of @Cpt. Rishwat and @KingKhanWC at sea though.

Legitimate or illegitimate... immigrants come for a reason, working their way through insane obstacles - to better lives for themselves and their families not freeload like you seem to think. It's one thing to set up reasonable barriers to entry but another to dehumanize them the way you seem to...talking about shipping them off as if they were animals.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Ah I'm glad you at least recognise it's about ethnicity. I'm no one to judge but maybe your partial Scandinavian ethnicity will protect you when the time comes as long as you're willing to blend in other ways.

Still leaves the likes of @Cpt. Rishwat and @KingKhanWC at sea though.

Legitimate or illegitimate... immigrants come for a reason, working their way through insane obstacles - to better lives for themselves and their families not freeload like you seem to think. It's one thing to set up reasonable barriers to entry but another to dehumanize them the way you seem to...talking about shipping them off as if they were animals.

At sea with what. The far right idiots are 20 years too slow. UK is mixed nation of world ethnicities, in every major city. Only the countryside is different. Those white folk who dont want people of other colours, are the ones who need to move the f out.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I don't know. He seems unsure he'll be allowed to stay given the atmosphere in Britain. He was already exploring options. I just suggested India/Pakistan because he'd look 'right' there. Anywhere else would potentially only be a waystation again.

You're right that your situation is harder if you don't quite fit in anywhere. You did suggest Uganda and Rwanda earlier in the thread. Maybe that could be an option?

To be honest I don't feel threatened at all walking around the leafy suburbs where I live, probably because a high proportion of the residents are well to do Jewish people. The type who say "Good morning!" when you pass them in the street, then probably go home and read their Zionist news daily.

I am sure I will be fine, if I do move it would probably be for tax reasons and to get a bit of sun. The subcontinent is a bit hot for my taste.

 

[Red-Indian]

To be honest I don't feel threatened at all walking around the leafy suburbs where I live, probably because a high proportion of the residents are well to do Jewish people. The type who say "Good morning!" when you pass them in the street, then probably go home and read their Zionist news daily.

I am sure I will be fine, if I do move it would probably be for tax reasons and to get a bit of sun. The subcontinent is a bit hot for my taste.

Thanks for the information and I wish you well in the effort to find a place that suits you but I assumed we were being sarcastic with each other.

For the record, I'm a fervent supporter of immigration, open borders and multicultural societies. I don't believe anyone has the right to close the drawbridge behind themselves just because they won their genetic or chronological lotteries.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Thanks for the information and I wish you well in the effort to find a place that suits you but I assumed we were being sarcastic with each other.

For the record, I'm a fervent supporter of immigration, open borders and multicultural societies. I don't believe anyone has the right to close the drawbridge behind themselves just because they won their genetic or chronological lotteries.

You are a good poster, enjoy reading your stuff. Multiculturalism has been great, there's a reason why western countries are the most sought after destinations, although the UAE is catching up.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Thanks for the information and I wish you well in the effort to find a place that suits you but I assumed we were being sarcastic with each other.

For the record, I'm a fervent supporter of immigration, open borders and multicultural societies. I don't believe anyone has the right to close the drawbridge behind themselves just because they won their genetic or chronological lotteries.

Wow I fell for it.

Well done. You were quite convincing.

 

[Red-Indian]

Wow I fell for it.

Well done. You were quite convincing.

Sign of our times I guess. I thought I'd taken such an extreme radical position that none except the real looks would think I was serious. Even so, more than one reasonable poster was fooled.

I guess the world we're living in now is so crazy that I just didn't have the imagination to be crazy enough.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Ah I'm glad you at least recognise it's about ethnicity. I'm no one to judge but maybe your partial Scandinavian ethnicity will protect you when the time comes as long as you're willing to blend in other ways.

Still leaves the likes of @Cpt. Rishwat and @KingKhanWC at sea though.

Legitimate or illegitimate... immigrants come for a reason, working their way through insane obstacles - to better lives for themselves and their families not freeload like you seem to think. It's one thing to set up reasonable barriers to entry but another to dehumanize them the way you seem to...talking about shipping them off as if they were animals.

My point is the natives you seem to be championing are infact immigrants themselves.

The likes of @KingKhanWC @Cpt. Rishwat are Brits through and through.

 

[RexRex]

Thanks for the information and I wish you well in the effort to find a place that suits you but I assumed we were being sarcastic with each other.

For the record, I'm a fervent supporter of immigration, open borders and multicultural societies. I don't believe anyone has the right to close the drawbridge behind themselves just because they won their genetic or chronological lotteries.

I knew but for a moment there, i thought you had gone full hardline. You never know on PP where most on here are so literal.

 

[KingKhanWC]

My point is the natives you seem to be championing are infact immigrants themselves.

The likes of @KingKhanWC @Cpt. Rishwat are Brits through and through.

I use a simple rule.

If you sound British , you are British. Any accent which is from the UK means you are a Brit through and trough. Myself and my siblings are British, raised from birth. However my parents are not , they are Pakistanis and dual British citizens. They have rights like any other Brit but they themselves also feel they are Pakistanis, they were born there, grew up there.

 

[finalfantasy7]

I knew but for a moment there, i thought you had gone full hardline. You never know on PP where most on here are so literal.

your mate @Rajdeep - will get kickd out of they come into power , rex and raj how does that make you feel

 

[KingKhanWC]

your mate @Rajdeep - will get kickd out of they come into power , rex and raj how does that make you feel

Raj has been deported weeks ago. He is now in Sri Lanka organising boycotting spin bowlers while at the crease.

 

[ghalib kichlu]

I actually think everyone on the island should be subjected to DNA tests and anyone not profiling as at least 80% Celtic/Anglo Saxon/Norman ancestry should be forcibly deported. Maybe they can do a 100 year cutoff for exceptions...i.e. if folks can prove 100 years of ancestral residency in the country.

It's absurd that the poor whites are forced to tolerate so many browns/blacks who don't look British at all in their country.

It’s so unfair that they class us all as immigrants,rapists and scavengers when we have given our life and blood for this soil

 

[aboveandbeyond]

I use a simple rule.

If you sound British , you are British. Any accent which is from the UK means you are a Brit through and trough. Myself and my siblings are British, raised from birth. However my parents are not , they are Pakistanis and dual British citizens. They have rights like any other Brit but they themselves also feel they are Pakistanis, they were born there, grew up there.

Yep agree. It seems ultra Nationalists have hijacked the mantra for Britishness to suit their so called Petty Politics.

Both my parents are Brits. Dad's family resides from Pakistan (Islamabad) but he was born here and me mums a native English - Welsh. Me and siblings have firm affiliation with the UK and our upbringing is based on that. But we have been taught respect all cultures.

 

[Smbhayi]

I wouldn’t mind the British deporting immigrants to their native countries, but they need to return the wealth they looted from those countries..