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Umar Akmal vs Manish Pandey - Who is better batsman in limited overs cricket?

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1.Umar Akmal started his international career with a bang! He scored runs in away conditions. Manish Pandey's start is similar.

2. Both are middle order bats and good fielders.

Barring his temperamental issues, I believe Umar is better due to the number of shots he can play and impact he can make in limited overs cricket.

How do you compare?
 
Yes, he scored a hundred against Australia in Australia. Umar played more aggressive innings against Sri Lanka
 
Akmal started well, got his chances, but faded out quickly.

Pandey has started well, but won't get any more chances as long as the passengers don't vacate their seats.
Chances are that he will get frustrated and move on to something else.
 
Umar has obvious off field problems, proving that he's mentally weak, awful work ethic means he won't be improving any time soon. He is an improved version of Afridi, slightly less brainless slogger.

Pandey has only played 19 matches, but he does play in the Indian setup which greatly supports batsmen and improves them. He will stay in the team depending on whether he loses form or a better batsman comes along.

At this point Manish is better, Akmal did make a splash in the beginning, but couldn't win any silverware or gain any more accolades apart from 4-5 matches.
 
pandey has not been given chances due to nepotism,umar akmal is a garbage player and has done nothing despite given so many chances.
 
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I think so. Pandey's chances are limited. Akmal's case was different. He had discipline issues, however he was shuttled around and didn't have good mentor. I believe Umar in a team like Bangladesh would have thrived
 
DRsohail said:
pandey has not been given chances due to nepotism,umar akmal is a garbage player and has done nothing despite given so many chances.
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What nepotism. Pandey got an extended run at #4 in a 5 match NZ series, in a 3 match 'away' SL series, but has failed to grab his chances.
 
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CricFan2012 said:
Umar has obvious off field problems, proving that he's mentally weak, awful work ethic means he won't be improving any time soon. He is an improved version of Afridi, slightly less brainless slogger.

Pandey has only played 19 matches, but he does play in the Indian setup which greatly supports batsmen and improves them. He will stay in the team depending on whether he loses form or a better batsman comes along.

At this point Manish is better, Akmal did make a splash in the beginning, but couldn't win any silverware or gain any more accolades apart from 4-5 matches.
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I don't agree with your comparison of Akmal with Afridi. Akmal has skills to play all around the park. His failures were caused by his lack of work ethics, and insecurity caused by the team management/selectors.

Hope Pandey is handled better. Currently, he is not getting the chances he deserves.
 
Umar Akmal does not have the drive.

Pandey initially got screwed 3 yrs ago when he was a sensation in IPL. Now he got his chance under Kohli. But Pandey failed miserably against mediocre Lankan attack and even against NZ attack.

Pandey will soon be history. A guy who never achieved his potential. He is already 28. Looks like MSD, Jadhav and Karthik might get extended run until WC 2019. By that time Pandey Ji will be 30. He will be like Kedar Jadhav at that time. Even if he is given a chance then, he will only be a stop gap player.

Pandey is a brilliant fielder though.
 
Pandey is not batting at the right positions and time - to suit his ability. He is more a 2 down batsman or before that in the mould of Rohit and he is being sent as Pandya-type, to be a pinch hitter. Also, his defence is poor at times, so the string of low-scores based on low-confidence too. Akmal was very good in his first few innings and I thought he is a mix of Izaj Ahmed+Salim Malik from 1990s - aggressive+caution mix. Akmal if he works on his fitness could be a very good ODI player again in the top positions as he is not a pinch-hitter type. Also, his health problems might not permit him to play tests or too much cricket. All said, I would say both have achieved to under-achieve w.r.t to their skills.
 
IndYeah1 said:
What nepotism. Pandey got an extended run at #4 in a 5 match NZ series, in a 3 match 'away' SL series, but has failed to grab his chances.
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Indian team needs to get rid of Kedhar and Rahane. Dhoni too if he is not going to play 2019 WC. Pandey had shown he can play well in both home and away conditions.
 
Umar anyday but he was not utilized Properly. He played opener in under 19 and domestic but was given late middle order in international cricket.. He is being wasted.. Ideally he should comeback and play as opener.. His style Of playing is Best suited for it..
 
indianpanacea said:
Umar anyday but he was not utilized Properly. He played opener in under 19 and domestic but was given late middle order in international cricket.. He is being wasted.. Ideally he should comeback and play as opener.. His style Of playing is Best suited for it..
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I agree. Umar Akmal will be better opener than Imam Ul Haq/Fakhar Zamam. Asking Umar to go an slog in the last few over is wasting his talent. At the same time, he did had chances to come early when the batting collapsed. He didn't do much in those matches as well. His is a curious case.
 
Pandey no doubt is better across all formats
More consistent and performs when the pressure is on
 
manish pandey played only 3 matches in srilanka

vs srilanka 50*, 36 and 51*(T20)

then had a poor odi series against Australia 3,0.36*,33,11*
 
ChennaiFan said:
Indian team needs to get rid of Kedhar and Rahane. Dhoni too if he is not going to play 2019 WC. Pandey had shown he can play well in both home and away conditions.
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One swallow doesn't make a summer. I still think Pandey is a better bet than Karthik for #4. But let's be honest, he has not done himself any favors by wasting the opportunities he's gotten recently.
 
ChennaiFan said:
I agree. Umar Akmal will be better opener than Imam Ul Haq/Fakhar Zamam. Asking Umar to go an slog in the last few over is wasting his talent. At the same time, he did had chances to come early when the batting collapsed. He didn't do much in those matches as well. His is a curious case.
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Just call it for what it is. Umar Akmal is a poor batsman with all the talent, none of the work ethic, and a proclivity to gain weight upon the ingestion of water.
 
Pandey could play blindfolded and with his wrong hand and still out bat fatty water weight explosive Umar Akmal
 
A rock would be better than Akmal. Because if you throw it at the opposition, it will actually do some damage.
 
I find it very baffling that Umar Akmal supporters try to justify his failures by using terms such as mismanagement etc. If I am not mistaken he has played over 100 Odi games , however is game has simply digressed due to his lack of work ethic , it's very simple . I like Umar Akmal but his reason for being out the team is simply down to him . This theory he should be tried as opener is farcical especially as he has never opened in the domestic circuit. Number 6 was not a bad position for Umar as during the 2011-2015 period due to our fragile middle order he was coming out to bat between the 30-35th over quite often. However what we would see from Umar is a blind slog from him in the power plays between 35-40th over and getting out . He still had plenty of times to build solid innings .

Umar can still turn it round but to think he is the mistreated boy of Pakistan cricket is ridiculous .
If he can turn it round it will only benefit the team .
 
Given their latest performances I think a more appropriate question is "Umar Akmal vs Manish Pandey - Who is worse in limited overs cricket?"
 
Napa said:
Given their latest performances I think a more appropriate question is "Umar Akmal vs Manish Pandey - Who is worse in limited overs cricket?"
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Has to be UA. At least Manish Pandey doesn't gain weight simply by drinking water.
 
ManFan said:
A rock would be better than Akmal. Because if you throw it at the opposition, it will actually do some damage.
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The water bloated Akmal should be capable enough of causing similar damage if thrown at the opposition I'd imagine...
 
I would rather take a bowler than Umar Akmal. He is good for nothing!!!!
 
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