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Agreed Amin surprised all by his abilities to hit sixes in Pakistan Cup. At the moment Pakistan team is missing a six hitter and there arent many apart from Fakhar at top. He should ideally be given an opportunity at 4 in place of Malik to accelerate the innings because this is where most often the team losses its momentum in batting.I am surprised that Fawad Alam has so much support despite his inability to hit boundaries.
Atleast Umar Amin can clear boundaries. Its double standards to demand chances for Fawad Alam and not for Amin.
Azhar had one ability that Umar doesn't even know what is that about i.e. Resiliance/Temperament to play long innings; every time I watched Umar Amin in past, he almost alway threw his wicket right after getting set!
This one ability alone set Azhar apart from all youngsters bar Fawad Alam and he should get the nod above Umar Amin in both Tests and ODI's or even Usmal Shalahuddin. Both of them have averages and records that are poles apart from whatever Umar has ever achieved despite all three of them having 7-10 years of domestic cricket.
In Tests, before Umar Amin gets selected, I would def try out Fakkhar Zaman since he has exceptional record in domestic as well; in ODI's, there is only one spot and Fawad or Usman should take it for sure
He has a lot of talent. And can speak good english and is therefore a future captaincy candidate.
I think he should take the anchor opener role, whilst Fakhar can go after the bowling.
Your thoughts?

I was making a point that selectors should first give him chances in ODIs and not thrown straight into test cricket.He has played some lovely innings in List A matches on those sluggish wickets for a few years now.
I agree with the point that Azhar is tempramentally very strong and that is his biggest weapon.I completely agree with that.
Your whole argument revolves around as to how he has failed in international cricket so far.But I think over the years he has improved.I think he is a player who should be backed fully and giving an extended run in the team and allowed to settle down.He has played 15 ODIs in around 7 years.That clearly tells that we haven't backed him and given him an extended run in the team.
I repeat he has got a game that is more suited to modern day cricket than the domestic cricket where we all know about the pitches and stuff.If backed,he can be an asset for Pakistan.With experiences at highest level he'll only get better.
I am surprised that Fawad Alam has so much support despite his inability to hit boundaries.
Atleast Umar Amin can clear boundaries. Its double standards to demand chances for Fawad Alam and not for Amin.
Fawad was thoroughly exposed by the Aussies, his game simply isn't suited to the modern way.
That being said Amin isn't the answer either, there's no space for mental midgets.
^^^A guy averaging 38.00 after almost a decade of domestic cricket is considered a Giant in your book?
He's a failure in pressure situations, but who cares he'll survive at the international level because he speaks good English.On what basis are you saying that Amin is a mental midget?
19 ODI average.
Sarfaraz had an average in the low 20s when he first started off, if it were left to PP armchair experts Saifi's career would have ended in 2010-2012.
Sarfaraz had an average in the low 20s when he first started off, if it were left to PP armchair experts Saifi's career would have ended in 2010-2012.
Amin looks really good even when he gets out. This shows he has talent.
19 ODI average.
Of course Averages aren't the end all be all, other components must be taken into account, opponent, conditions etc. The reason you don't see people raving about Voges' average is that it is built upon bullying minnow level attacks and a fair share of feasting on home tracks.Akmal Jr has an ODI average of 35, does this mean he is successful limited overs player?
Averages are not everything if that was the case then Adam Voges would be the best batsman of this era as per you.
Of course Averages aren't the end all be all, other components must be taken into account, opponent, conditions etc. The reason you don't see people raving about Voges' average is that it is built upon bullying minnow level attacks and a fair share of feasting on home tracks.
It could be argued that Amin has a too small of a sample size to judge him based on his international stats, but even if we analyse his domestic stats his average is yet to exceed 40, which is considered a benchmark. And the quality of cricket at FC level is very poor.
Agreed but you also got to have a look at recent domestic stats for Amin. We can't just rule out the possibility that a person cannot improve with time. One needs to understand that last time Amin played for Pak was before his age of 25 and we all know that a batsman peak is from age 28-32.
I just don't like the idea of discounting a person as ttf at the age of 25 and believing that a person cannot improve with time. Just look at Attapattu who had 6 ducks in his first 8-10 tests, as per PP logic he would have been the biggest ttf of all time at that moment and should not even be allowed to compete in domestics but thank god that was not the case.
People need to grasp the idea that a person can improve with time and not discount his career as ttf after 15-20 matches.
Sarfaraz had an average in the low 20s when he first started off, if it were left to PP armchair experts Saifi's career would have ended in 2010-2012.
Sarfaraz had an average in the low 20s when he first started off, if it were left to PP armchair experts Saifi's career would have ended in 2010-2012.
Let Amin be the top scorer in domestic for 1-2 years in a row or have one of the best averages (overall) in Pak...else Fakkhar, Fawad, and Usman Salahuddin will be the fiurst three in line
This hype around Amin will come crashing down and I can't wait.
Ditto, a long time ago when he first got picked, I saw what was being hyped out about him and it turned out to be 'Nothing'...all people see is some shots being played in a so-called 'Elegant' style and they go gaga over him!
My prediction is that he will still struggle to(if he has not tightened his game by a big stretch), otherwise it will be the same i.e. a good looking 20-30 to keep his fans gushing over his style and elegancemake scores over 50
Well done, [MENTION=134482]SM1989[/MENTION].
I had called this out months ago
Silly combination
Selfie Shehzad can make dry paint look better than him, Umar Amin was playing pathetically just like Azam knocking around putting pressure on Fakhar Zaman to hit scoring shots.
It felt no different for Fakhar trying to babysit another partner after selfie. His game has gone down due to these pathetic partners supplied by Inzi selector.
Umar Amin does'nt look like a t20 player. There are ton of players good than this Umar Amin to partner Fakhar and release some pressure of him also, one has been shipped to Hong Kong [sahibzada Farhan] natural opener he should've been part of this team, Inzamam the biased nepotistic character only making room for his nephew, players w/ lesser strike rate [like manzoor, umar amin] and other seniors, keeping promising players away.
PAkistan batting still not sorted, Sharjeel Khan is badly needed in the side, FArhan is needed, Haris sohail needs to get a game. Top 4 sides will be playing Pakistan. This pathetic batting line up will put pressure on our superb bowling lineup to carry their bums across the line. They'll be posting lower-than-acceptable totals asking our bowlers to defend somehow
I think, today Fakhar scored 31 of 27, and Amin reached 31 in 28 or 29 balls - without looking at the numbers, I felt like Fakhar had to work twice for similar out put.
And, that inside out lofted cover drive probably last saw from MoYo, 12 years back.
did u see farhan in hong kong sixes,he is struggling badly there,hammad azam on fire there and was looking millions dollars.

after todays innings in front of micky arthur how do u see him,,any chance in odi??/inzi has made a big mistake by bringing his nephew,
I think, his capability is far better - today actually he was under par. What happens is that, after long break, if you bring a player (who had been dropped few times previously) and give him one match, the out put is often below par. For example, that LBW shout in 1st over was much closer than Babar's last dismissal, had umpire given it Amin would have been history for 2 more years.
I felt, he was batting too carefully today and a bit scared to play shots. Overall, ODI should be his 1st format and T20 last, because he can rotate strike and play good shots in gaps, can loft as well; but he doesn't have the brutal power of SK. Still, can be a very good T20 player, but definitely should be No. 1 opener in ODI. Eventually, he can be a 3 format player if he toughen mentally.
You do not make judgments based on the Hong Kong sixes![]()
I honestly wasn't as impressed as some. This partnership doesn't address the lack of powerhitting we need to capitalise on the Powerplay overs.
We were going at a RR of 7.43 after the first seven overs on a flat deck against a depleted Sri Lankan attack. Its a good ODI pace but not in T20s. Amin looks a fluent strokemaker suited to ODIs rather than T20s whilst Fakhar hasn't been timing the ball well recently and bowlers are targeting him with legstump line.
Compare this to the likes of Hales and Roy, Gayle and Lewis, Warner and Finch etc, and our lack of powerhitting will be exposed. The bowling won't be able to restrict opponents to low scores every game - we will have to face chases where we need to score 8.5-9 RPO or bat first and score 185-200 if we're to win the next World T20.
Otherwise its like bringing a knife to a gunfight.
I think, today Fakhar scored 31 of 27, and Amin reached 31 in 28 or 29 balls - without looking at the numbers, I felt like Fakhar had to work twice for similar out put.
And, that inside out lofted cover drive probably last saw from MoYo, 12 years back.
Umar Amin today looked a bit nervous. Will grow in confidence. But an all-leftie combo at the top doesn't really inspire confidence to be honest. We really need a decent right handed batter to partner Fakhar.
I think bigger issue is lack of power-hitting in Babar Azam's game and the fact that he had no answer to the Sri Lankan bowler's yorker length. On the flip side Amin after growing in confidence was regularly finding the boundary, if he had batted longer he would have definitely upped the run rate.
Fakhar is suffering from a severe lack of form. Even the balls in his zone he is not timing. Kudos to him for still pushing on and getting starts. I guess this is where the navy training kicks in. His bad form will not continue always. He will get over it and then we will have the Fakhar of the CT who was baying for blood.
Had to log in for this one.. [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] comment reminded me of a famous moment when Anwar creamed first two balls he faced from Venkatish Bangalore and those were put away for 4's and Chappali said "The difference between Sohail and Anwar is clear in just few balls when in previous over (1st of inning) had slapped Javagal for 2 boundaries and Anwar just did it to Venkatish but did it without making it look like he had to do a lot of effort to hit those boundaries. That is due to the fact that Anwar is naturally far more gifted than Sohail"
Absolutely same today, THAT inside out was one of the best strokes by a Pakistani player in years to me, so much correct about it.
Ive never understood this. Whats wrong with two lefties up top? Teams play two right handers why not two left handers?
I’ve never understood this. What’s wrong with two lefties up top? Teams play two right handers why not two left handers?