"Unfortunately our top-order could not score runs and we lost both games due to this" : Hassan Ali

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"Unfortunately our top-order could not score runs and we lost both games due to this" : Hassan Ali

Hassan Ali speaking to the media at end of the 2nd ODI against England:



On Ben Stokes' wicket

"We all know that he is a very good player and he has been doing very well for England over the past 2-3 years, so his wicket today was key for us and I am very happy to have got that today; We know he has the ability to change the direction of the game at any time so we had planned to get his wicket early which is what we did and came back in the game"

"If I had stayed at the wicket then maybe the match situation could have turned out differently, and I did try my best but could not succeed and there is some regret that due to that we lost the match"

"Faheem and Haris bowled a little short and outside the off-stump but we must understand that in a match, 2-3 bowlers will perform and not all can perform in the same way; Both of these bowlers have a lot of potential but they couldn't perform that well today"

"We all know that in ODI Cricket, scores like 300 are very normal so we did well to limit England to 247 and came back into the game but unfortunately, we had a batting collapse and we could not build partnerships especially within the top-order"

"As a bowling unit, despite the fact that Faheem and Haris went for runs, we did well to restrict England to 247"

"I am feeling pride for taking 5 wickets but on the other hand I am disappointed that we lost 2 back-to-back games and the ODI series, but we are looking ahead to a strong comeback in the third game in Birmingham"

"Our batsmen are aware of what mistakes they made today but lets not forget that they have done well in the past, especially in the last two series where our top-order has got runs in South Africa; So Fakhar, Imam, Babar and Rizwan got runs but unfortunately they could not score runs today and we lost both games due to this"

"Our recent cricket has been in Pakistan and in UAE so conditions can make a difference and as the ball seams a lot here, we as a batting unit have had some problems due to that"

 

[marlonbrowndo]

We did not do well. Any decent team would’ve got them out under 200 but we had Haris and Faheem unfortunately. And any decent team would’ve chased this as well but we all saw what happened.

 

[SangasCoverDrive]

Hassan despite 5 wickets conceded 50 runs himself. He was one of the bowlers who leaked runs

 

[SM1989]

As Shoaib Akhtar would
say:

“Match ki summary sunaa rahay hain”

 

[guna]

Pak had the opportunity to skittle out England for under 200. They bowled poorly to let England to slowly creep up to 247.
Overall an average effort in bowling and a poor show with the bat. This England team had no business to play against an experienced international side and should have been shown their aukat. Pak made England look better than they really are.

 

[Kroll]

Ooft, Hasan laying into the batsmen and Faheem and Rauf.

 

[Kroll]

Hassan despite 5 wickets conceded 50 runs himself. He was one of the bowlers who leaked runs

If I heard right on commentary, this was the best ODI bowling figures by a Pak bowler vs England.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

If I heard right on commentary, this was the best ODI bowling figures by a Pak bowler vs England.

At Lord’s

 

[Kroll]

At Lord’s

Thanks for correction.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Letting england get over 200 let alone 247 was a poor effort. Add to that the shambolic batting, hit a boundary and then get out. No composure or ability to build an inns. pathetic stuff from pakistan.

 

[t_kaay]

Game was lost due to indiscipline, not lack of skill. The opening bowlers pitched the ball up and made chances, kept the runs down and got early wickets. But then the 1st change bowlers decided to bowl back of a length and wide of the wickets. Why were they not pulled up by Babar? Why wasn't a message sent from the dressing room? The spinners did well to pull it back, only for us to allow the lower order to add another 60+ runs, which were the reason we weren't chasing sub 200. Then, once we start to chase, Fakhar decides he's playing a test match and we can't use our brains. Even at 8 down, it was virtually a run a ball required with the odd boundary. At 50ish needed off 70, I still backed them to be able to do it. If they had knocked it around for singles and taken it to the last 2 or 3 overs, we would have won this. Much as you might not like to hear it.....remember what Dhoni used to say......"take it to the last over".

 

[Mirpur express]

Bowling was poor in the second half as 50 extra runs were given away , Faheem Kluisner was always going to be a liability Rauf on other hand tries but poor control , the batting was down right club level! Total embarrassment

 

[PakLFC]

Our top order never score runs. No matter how many England had scored Pak would not have gotten them. A pub side have better batsmen then we do. Complete rubbish yet again. Now lets hear the names of future greats coming up the ranks!! Keep dreaming.

 

[Saj]

Hassan despite 5 wickets conceded 50 runs himself. He was one of the bowlers who leaked runs

No problems at all with his effort.

Others need to look at their performances.

 

[Titan24]

No problems at all with his effort.

Others need to look at their performances.

Absolutely. Hassan his all today with ball by bringing Pak in the match big time, in the field with an outstanding boundary save and some hitting with the bat as well. Looked like a lone warrior out their in the field today for Pak.

 

[Babar_Azam_fan]

Lol, Hasan Ali not even trying to sugar coat. Having a go at the top order and the two pacers, they need to be exposed

 

[Ami]

Pak main problems start from....
Saud
Sohaib
Shadab
Faheem
Weak or new players ...
As far as top 4 are concerned, just out of form, thats all.

 

[wajid]

Pak main problems start from....
Saud
Sohaib
Shadab
Faheem
Weak or new players ...
As far as top 4 are concerned, just out of form, thats all.

Saud probably doesn’t deserve to be on this list. Our best performer today after Hassan

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Bowling was poor in the second half as 50 extra runs were given away , Faheem Kluisner was always going to be a liability Rauf on other hand tries but poor control , the batting was down right club level! Total embarrassment

If faheem is going to be a liability then why is he playing , he has played for 30 games and I don’t see any improvement in his batting, can’t score 20-30 runs the least that u can expect from an allrounder. Even tailenders who know how to bat scores 20-30 runs quite often.

Faheem said avg with the ball is 45 and with the bat is 12 in ODIs , no idea why this guy has been backed all the way so far. Never ever shown any sort of reliable performance to be backed.

I’m sure Mohammed wasim the new guy could definitely do better than this useless cricketer who can go back to his traditional gully mohalla cricket to make name for himself.

Having all said above, his fielding has been worse too..

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Lol, Hasan Ali not even trying to sugar coat. Having a go at the top order and the two pacers, they need to be exposed

That is really needed in this Pakistan setup , name and shame them. These guys deserve that for losing against a third 11 of England.

 

[UzmanBeast]

If faheem is going to be a liability then why is he playing , he has played for 30 games and I don’t see any improvement in his batting, can’t score 20-30 runs the least that u can expect from an allrounder. Even tailenders who know how to bat scores 20-30 runs quite often.

Faheem said avg with the ball is 45 and with the bat is 12 in ODIs , no idea why this guy has been backed all the way so far. Never ever shown any sort of reliable performance to be backed.

I’m sure Mohammed wasim the new guy could definitely do better than this useless cricketer who can go back to his traditional gully mohalla cricket to make name for himself.

Having all said above, his fielding has been worse too..

It comes down to this:

If you don't have a world class seam bowling all-rounder, don't live in a fantasy thinking that your mediocre one will win you games.

India tried Thakur in ODIs and he was an utter failure, so they stopped.

All good all-rounders around the world started off quite poorly. They then went back into domestic, and worked hard to get their places. Faheem and Shadab haven't had to go into domestic, which explains why they have become so mediocre.

This is where some forward thinking is required.

If we don't have a seam-bowling all-rounder of international quality, then we would be forced to play another bowling option.

I can think of a plan that involves forward thinking, but it's unlikely that the Pakistani management will.

Fakhar Zaman
Sohaib Maqsood
Babar Azam (c)
Saud Shakeel
Sarfaraz Ahmed
Salman Ali Agha
Shadab Khan
Hasan Ali
Haris Rauf
Mohammad Hasnain
Shaheen Shah Afridi

That should solve some problems.

 

[Doc77]

It's very simple, let's not try and hide behind excuses - the Pakistan players are not of International standard, apart from a couple of players. Management and coaching staff are pathetic.

Before focusing on changing the team combination, we need to change our management and coaching staff. What ever team, player, etc you put in this system they will fail because the whole system is pathetic.

Once again, I blame this failure to Imran Khan who has trusted the PCB to a bunch of low calibre individuals and has ignored the sport. They have completely destroyed our game.

 

[Saj]

Absolutely. Hassan his all today with ball by bringing Pak in the match big time, in the field with an outstanding boundary save and some hitting with the bat as well. Looked like a lone warrior out their in the field today for Pak.

A few more like him and we wouldn't be in the mess we are in.

Hassan is an honest trier, he may not be the most technically gifted or have the most natural ability, but you know that once he is on the field he will give absolutely everything.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

One of the coaches or the captain should be made to come to presser when the team loses.

 

[Savak]

A few more like him and we wouldn't be in the mess we are in.

Hassan is an honest trier, he may not be the most technically gifted or have the most natural ability, but you know that once he is on the field he will give absolutely everything.

I want him to discipline himself with the bat and be more versatile ie he can actually build an innings, can defend and support a set batsman at the other end if the match situation demands it. He will not always encounter a situation where he is in the slog overs or in a run chase final overs

 

[ask_analyse_act]

It comes down to this:

If you don't have a world class seam bowling all-rounder, don't live in a fantasy thinking that your mediocre one will win you games.

India tried Thakur in ODIs and he was an utter failure, so they stopped.

All good all-rounders around the world started off quite poorly. They then went back into domestic, and worked hard to get their places. Faheem and Shadab haven't had to go into domestic, which explains why they have become so mediocre.

This is where some forward thinking is required.

If we don't have a seam-bowling all-rounder of international quality, then we would be forced to play another bowling option.

I can think of a plan that involves forward thinking, but it's unlikely that the Pakistani management will.

Fakhar Zaman
Sohaib Maqsood
Babar Azam (c)
Saud Shakeel
Sarfaraz Ahmed
Salman Ali Agha
Shadab Khan
Hasan Ali
Haris Rauf
Mohammad Hasnain
Shaheen Shah Afridi

That should solve some problems.

No it doesnt come down to having a world class allrounder or not... The same team compete with England first 11 in a 5 match ODI series just two years ago..
Back then they were able to put up score over 340 consistently and even once chased 370 and lost by 10 runs , those are some good performance by the batsman under Sarfraz and Mickey.. Bowlers from both sides fail to control the run flow..
Pakistan lost 4-0 in that series with 1 no result but showed some fight and matched that strong England team... Also in the CWC they did do well to beat England, SA and NZL..

It was almost the same team that is now losing to C team cant bat 50 overs and cant even cross 200 lol..
Well i saw this pattern of struggling to make 200 and losing half the team inside 90 runs under the only one Captain Misbah and now under Coach Misbah... Mickey has taken a leap out of that approach to make this same team to be aggressive and score 340+ on regular basis..

Such a downfall from where they were , i will put the whole blame on Misbah /Waqar...
Under these guys Pakistan has hit many new lows, starting with the whitewash from Bangladesh to another whitewash to England C team (likely yo happen) in ODI cricket......
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[UzmanBeast]

No it doesnt come down to having a world class allrounder or not... The same team compete with England first 11 in a 5 match ODI series just two years ago..
Back then they were able to put up score over 340 consistently and even once chased 370 and lost by 10 runs , those are some good performance by the batsman under Sarfraz and Mickey.. Bowlers from both sides fail to control the run flow..
Pakistan lost 4-0 in that series with 1 no result but showed some fight and matched that strong England team... Also in the CWC they did do well to beat England, SA and NZL..

It was almost the same team that is now losing to C team cant bat 50 overs and cant even cross 200 lol..
Well i saw this pattern of struggling to make 200 and losing half the team inside 90 runs under the only one Captain Misbah and now under Coach Misbah... Mickey has taken a leap out of that approach to make this same team to be aggressive and score 340+ on regular basis..

Such a downfall from where they were , i will put the whole blame on Misbah /Waqar...
Under these guys Pakistan has hit many new lows, starting with the whitewash from Bangladesh to another whitewash to England C team (likely yo happen) in ODI cricket......
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Sarfaraz was a better captain in terms of active field placements and due to the fact that a lot of bowlers blossomed under his captaincy, though his own performances were poor and hardly made an impact with the bat.

I think that one major difference is that this Pakistan team still has individuals who don't bear the responsibility of their roles.

Imam knows that he has to provide a foundation, that's his role, but his dismissal patterns are all the same (LBW or outside edge). He has not even learned how to play right-arm medium pace, and gets out the second the ball starts to shape a bit.

Fakhar knows that he has to be aggressive, but once wickets tumble, he goes into a shell and misses out on pies from the bowlers. He needs to understand that just because someone else loses their wicket to stupidity, he should not deviate from a play-style that has brought him immense success.

Babar is another candidate who disappears as soon as there is some swing on offer. I kid you not, he would have been eaten alive in that NZ test series if he played, his technique fails against the moving and seaming ball. It's harsh, but I've seen this quite a few times, and he is yet to convince me with solid performances against the moving ball.

Saud played well, he has a steady head on his shoulders and has a good technique, I can see him doing well for Pakistan in tests and ODI cricket. He's a good find.

Rizwan is another case, constantly finding ways to get himself out. I'm pretty sure Hasan Ali has more runs in his last few games than both Rizwan and Faheem combined. I mean, what type of a number 4 batsman can't negotiate fast-bowling? Most of his dismissals come from getting himself in awkward positions, and I'm not impressed by his performances at all, in fact, he needs to be replaced. No player gets the luxury of getting 10+ ODI games without a single performance if they bat in the top 4.

Another problem is Shadab Khan, someone who doesn't know who what his role is. Is he a bowler who can bat a bit, or does he think he's good enough to be a batsman? Personally, in my eyes, he's a bowling all-rounder who should not be batting in the top 6 at all.

Faheem is the biggest issue, he provides no runs nor any wickets in ODI cricket. He needs to rethink his role in the team, and he needs to be dropped for his own good.

Our fast-bowling isn't that problematic apart from Rauf who's a known scatter-gun. Shinwari, despite leaking a lot himself, is a far superior bowling option than Rauf who is yet to bowl a single over where he doesn't give boundary balls.

As for our spin game, we need a complete rethink. We have a few options in ODI cricket:
1.) Shadab Khan
2.) Usman Qadir
3.) Mohammad Nawaz
4.) Imad Wasim
5.) Saud Shakeel (part-timer)
6.) Salman Ali Agha (part-timer)

Either we take Shadab as the main-spinner and save a slot on the team for another batsman (assuming that Saud plays, we have a 6th bowling option).

Another option is to play Saud, Salman, and Shadab on the same team, giving three unique bowling options.

Furthermore, we could play both Shadab and Usman to give two leg-spin options but compromise on the batting.

Shadab and Nawaz is another decent shout, but there is a big compromise on batting with that decision.

 

[Energy]

It's funny Hassan Ali is talking about batting and the value of his wicket to the chase. It's shocking.

What are the freaking batsmen doing? Braiding Imam's hair?