Usama Mir vs Shadab Khan - Who is better leg-spinner?

[saeed5646]

Usama Mir is a 23 year old leg spinner from silakot who has played for the

Sialkot Stallions Twenty20 franchise. he played for Karachi Kings in PSL. he

was the leading wickettaker during the 2015 edition of the Haier Super 8 T20

Cup






Shadab Khan a 18 year old leg spinner who made his List A debut on 20 April

2016 for Islamabad in the 2016 Pakistan Cup. He made his Twenty20 debut on

26 August 2016 for Rawalpindi in the 2016–17 National T20 Cup.he is playing

for islamabad united in PSL 2

 

[saeed5646]

Shadab is better batsmen but both are good leg spinner very hard to predict

 

[Rayyman]

Usama is better in shorter formats, while Shadab is better in 1st-class. Usama is best leggie for LOI in Pak atm.

 

[saeed5646]

Usama is better in shorter formats, while Shadab is better in 1st-class. Usama is best leggie for LOI in Pak atm.

I think you don,t know about it but usama mir is injury prone who has serious back injury due to which he

misses most of first class matches from last 2 years .he needs to needs to be injury free other wise shadab

will be front runner who already have played pakistan A

 

[itsme]

Usama

 

[Sub-Zero]

Shadab
i think he edges it in every department, plus he's a better bat and fielder

 

[saeed5646]

Shadab
i think he edges it in every department, plus he's a better bat and fielder

Usama is also very good fielder .

 

[DRsohail]

Usama is also very good fielder .

usama is injury prone he is right.plus shdab is a better batsaman...but we can have both of them...quality is there..

 

[saeed5646]

usama is injury prone he is right.plus shdab is a better batsaman...but we can have both of them...quality is there..

lol i said that about injury but yeah shadab is better batsmen

 

[saeed5646]

Well bowl usama in such a pressure situation amazing

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Usama very comfortably

 

[Hasan123]

As a pure leg break I'll take Usama.

 

[Sub-Zero]

Usama has passed the test of mentality
handled the pressure

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Usama and Irfan are the best legspin bowlers in Pakistan. Shadab is not in their league.

 

[dhump]

Usama just bowled a brilliant over under pressure...I am yet to pick between them both are unfinished but good potential players.

 

[mz123]

Usama and Irfan are the best legspin bowlers in Pakistan. Shadab is not in their league.

Can Usama bat ?

 

[saeed5646]

Usama is must for odis he should be picked for that format

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Can Usama bat ?

Yes, he can. Not at Shadab's level though. The latter has a lot of potential as a batsman.

 

[Syed1]

His face was a picture of nervousness when Afridi hit that six but he recovered well enough.

 

[mz123]

Yes, he can. Not at Shadab's level though. The latter has a lot of potential as a batsman.

Who would you rather have in the team then ?

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Who would you rather have in the team then ?

Shadab can play as an allrounder but he needs a few more years.

 

[pacesensation]

Yes, he can. Not at Shadab's level though. The latter has a lot of potential as a batsman.

[MENTION=141531]mz123[/MENTION] shadab khan played quite a handful of crunch innings in u19 tournament and u19 wc. Moreover he did not score some useful 20s or 30s, i am talking about 60 70 and 80s. Don't you think letting shadab khan into domestic might spoil his game?

Though i think that inzamam has eyes on him and so has others. He should mostly go on a tours while mir should play for pakistan.
On another thought, shadab khan can purely play as a batsman though. I forgot to mention him scoring a crunch 50 in national odi cup with misbahul haq

Regards

 

[pacesensation]

Usama just bowled a brilliant over under pressure...I am yet to pick between them both are unfinished but good potential players.

shadab can make the team on merit as a batsman in place of professor

 

[Hawkeye]

Shadab looks better.

 

[MMHS]

Play both in ODI - the standard of spin play in worst these days. 20 overs of genuine turn in middle overs & most teams will struggle. Imad can create some pressure on sluggish wickets like MoHa, but they didn't put any pressure what so ever on Aussie pair defending 263 at WACA - this 2 Leggis could have won it, specially after pacers got the openers out inside 50.

 

[saeed5646]

Play both in ODI - the standard of spin play in worst these days. 20 overs of genuine turn in middle overs & most teams will struggle. Imad can create some pressure on sluggish wickets like MoHa, but they didn't put any pressure what so ever on Aussie pair defending 263 at WACA - this 2 Leggis could have won it, specially after pacers got the openers out inside 50.

that is what i was thinking why not play both of them

 

[Chief Destroyer]

[MENTION=141531]mz123[/MENTION] shadab khan played quite a handful of crunch innings in u19 tournament and u19 wc. Moreover he did not score some useful 20s or 30s, i am talking about 60 70 and 80s. Don't you think letting shadab khan into domestic might spoil his game?

Though i think that inzamam has eyes on him and so has others. He should mostly go on a tours while mir should play for pakistan.
On another thought, shadab khan can purely play as a batsman though. I forgot to mention him scoring a crunch 50 in national odi cup with misbahul haq

Regards

Shadab's been touring with the A teams and has scored a lot of runs at a fast pace. He's quite a gifted timer and has range of shots.

 

[pacesensation]

Play both in ODI - the standard of spin play in worst these days. 20 overs of genuine turn in middle overs & most teams will struggle. Imad can create some pressure on sluggish wickets like MoHa, but they didn't put any pressure what so ever on Aussie pair defending 263 at WACA - this 2 Leggis could have won it, specially after pacers got the openers out inside 50.

I do not know whether you have followed shadab khan but i have been following him ever since he scored some runs and got a few wickets against aus in u19 tournament last year(or was it sa or nz).

He scored under pressure on a number of occasions. I think that he merits a place in odi even as a batsman. Drop the professor and pick shadab khan. Though its unlikely that this might happen soon. Just a thought.

 

[pacesensation]

that is what i was thinking why not play both of them

Its very unlikely to happen. Though still possible but not probable

 

[pacesensation]

still, pakistan needs a fast bowler. Spinners are in good supply (apart from off sping)

 

[saeed5646]

Its very unlikely to happen. Though still possible but not probable

this PSL is exposing alot of Selection errors Man how many talent have they ruin for so called seniors

 

[saeed5646]

If usama continue this form he will be selected for w.i series

 

[dhump]

shadab can make the team on merit as a batsman in place of professor

I hope so but it is very early to say this he haven't played any special role with the bat as of yet.

 

[proud_pakistani]

Both are very good and Pakistan has needed a leg spinner who can play shorter formats. In recent times both Kaneria and Yasir Shah have failed in shorter formats so these 2 bode well for Pakistan.

I would say Usama is better fit in the short format since he has better control in my opinion. Shadab might be better for tests and has a really good wrong'un.

Usama, Shadab and Imad Wasim can be a good spin trio for Pakistan. I would however also like an off spinner in this mix for variety. Ideally Usama - offie - Imad Wasim.

 

[pacesensation]

I hope so but it is very early to say this he haven't played any special role with the bat as of yet.

he performed in national odi cup, in u19 wc, in u19 tournament before the wc. He performed against zim(though thats not much of a feat).
I don't think he would get enough chances to show his batting prowess. He might get an odd chance where batting collapses but that it

 

[pacesensation]

this PSL is exposing alot of Selection errors Man how many talent have they ruin for so called seniors

lol, well its not that simple. Current selection committee is enoying more freedom than any other committee in last 10 to 15 years. If he performs like that then he would get selected, InshAllah with khair

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Usama just bowled a brilliant over under pressure...I am yet to pick between them both are unfinished but good potential players.

what is the so called "unfinished" they both have outperformed yasir, imad and nawaz already.. the overseas captain sanga trust the abilities of usama and goes with him for the final over and not imad wasim.. Also in the post match presentation he said his options were only usama, bopara and Pollard...

Both of them can be selected in the squad ahead of imad, nawaz and Yasir in the limted overs squad especially...

To me who has the better googly should make the cut to the final eleven..

 

[Mamoon]

Usama must be selected for ODIs/T20Is.

 

[Justcrazy]

Play both in ODI - the standard of spin play in worst these days. 20 overs of genuine turn in middle overs & most teams will struggle. Imad can create some pressure on sluggish wickets like MoHa, but they didn't put any pressure what so ever on Aussie pair defending 263 at WACA - this 2 Leggis could have won it, specially after pacers got the openers out inside 50.

That would be a good ploy , two good spinners in middle order in OD can be really effective. Shadab can work on his batting a bit also. At least have both in squad.

 

[Barragan]

I'm surprised Usama hasn't used his googly yet because he has a really good one.

I'm guessing, he just wants to concentrate on bowling his stock ball and try to perfect the art of consistency with those leggies.

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

i want shadab to be inducted in the national team setup immediately so that we can move away from players like hafeez or at least have someone breathing down his neck.

usama the bowler is a better than shadab and has a higher ceiling as a bowler if he maintains his fitness.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

I'm surprised Usama hasn't used his googly yet because he has a really good one.

I'm guessing, he just wants to concentrate on bowling his stock ball and try to perfect the art of consistency with those leggies.

he should use it here ... im also concerned with his fitness, seen quite a time stretching his back muscles as he has comeback from injury..KK shouldnt overuse him and make things worse for the future hope MICKEY and AZHAR aware of it...

 

[Junaids]

You should probably pick your sole spinner in Tests outside Asia according to who can be groomed into a batsman who can average 40 and bat at 7 - below Sarfraz - ahead of four quick bowlers.

Yasir Shah has just averaged over 60 with the ball in 8 Tests in England, NZ and Australia. To be honest, a young Afridi would have balanced the team better.

So if Shadab - or even Usman Qadir - is the more viable batsman, give him to Mushtaq Ahmed and Grant Flower to be groomed.

 

[Sub-Zero]

You should probably pick your sole spinner in Tests outside Asia according to who can be groomed into a batsman who can average 40 and bat at 7 - below Sarfraz - ahead of four quick bowlers.

Yasir Shah has just averaged over 60 with the ball in 8 Tests in England, NZ and Australia. To be honest, a young Afridi would have balanced the team better.

So if Shadab - or even Usman Qadir - is the more viable batsman, give him to Mushtaq Ahmed and Grant Flower to be groomed.

what an insightful post, completely agree. Yasir lost his googly in Aus test series.(it was never his forte)
Shadab has the best googly, and that's very handy plus he can turn the leg spinners well.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

You should probably pick your sole spinner in Tests outside Asia according to who can be groomed into a batsman who can average 40 and bat at 7 - below Sarfraz - ahead of four quick bowlers.

Yasir Shah has just averaged over 60 with the ball in 8 Tests in England, NZ and Australia. To be honest, a young Afridi would have balanced the team better.

So if Shadab - or even Usman Qadir - is the more viable batsman, give him to Mushtaq Ahmed and Grant Flower to be groomed.

Don't agree at all. Your English way of thinking when it comes to Test spinners is absolutely awful. No wonder England has the worst spinners in the world

 

[ahmadharis1]

Solid outing today, performed well under immense pressure. Can turn the ball well. I say if he displays consistency this PSL then he should have a chance in LOI

 

[Barragan]

he should use it here ... im also concerned with his fitness, seen quite a time stretching his back muscles as he has comeback from injury..KK shouldnt overuse him and make things worse for the future hope MICKEY and AZHAR aware of it...

Yeah, he did come back from a back injury and was out for quite sometime.

 

[WC-Passion]

I would say Usama is better at the moment, from what i've watched, he's been very consistent with his bowling but I haven't seen his googly much. Shadab has a decent googly though.

 

[Hasan123]

You should probably pick your sole spinner in Tests outside Asia according to who can be groomed into a batsman who can average 40 and bat at 7 - below Sarfraz - ahead of four quick bowlers.

Yasir Shah has just averaged over 60 with the ball in 8 Tests in England, NZ and Australia. To be honest, a young Afridi would have balanced the team better.

So if Shadab - or even Usman Qadir - is the more viable batsman, give him to Mushtaq Ahmed and Grant Flower to be groomed.

This is an English way of thinking. Saqlain would never have got a chance if you was a selector. The same with Murali.

You are intelligent poster but some of your views on cricket I don't really agree with and some are pure fantasys

 

[Rayyman]

You should probably pick your sole spinner in Tests outside Asia according to who can be groomed into a batsman who can average 40 and bat at 7 - below Sarfraz - ahead of four quick bowlers.

Yasir Shah has just averaged over 60 with the ball in 8 Tests in England, NZ and Australia. To be honest, a young Afridi would have balanced the team better.

So if Shadab - or even Usman Qadir - is the more viable batsman, give him to Mushtaq Ahmed and Grant Flower to be groomed.

I disagree. Pick a specialist spinner. I can tell you're from UK b/c of ur love for bits and pieces players. That doesn't work in Tests.

 

[Sub-Zero]

I disagree. Pick a specialist spinner. I can tell you're from UK b/c of ur love for bits and pieces players. That doesn't work in Tests.

we need an all rounder badly though, Nawaz failed in batting, it doesnt look like Imad is gonna get a chance in tests.
So Shadab is the best bet.

 

[Rayyman]

we need an all rounder badly though, Nawaz failed in batting, it doesnt look like Imad is gonna get a chance in tests.
So Shadab is the best bet.

Not a spin all-rounder. Usama can bat a bit too. Probably as good as Shadab.

 

[Sub-Zero]

Not a spin all-rounder. Usama can bat a bit too. Probably as good as Shadab.

nope, Shadab is better way better in terms of test cricket, plus a better fielder in addition to being very fit. Usama is injury prone for starters and not a complete leggie with all the varieties like Shadab

 

[Rayyman]

nope, Shadab is better way better in terms of test cricket, plus a better fielder in addition to being very fit. Usama is injury prone for starters and not a complete leggie with all the varieties like Shadab

Usama is a complete leggie with all the varieties. Not sure why everybody is hyping Shadab up so much. Usama is the better option atm. At least for LOIs.

 

[Sub-Zero]

Usama is a complete leggie with all the varieties. Not sure why everybody is hyping Shadab up so much. Usama is the better option atm. At least for LOIs.

Shadab has the best googly, and that will be his biggest weapon in LOI, go watch Imran Tahir

 

[Brilliance]

[MENTION=141531]mz123[/MENTION] shadab khan played quite a handful of crunch innings in u19 tournament and u19 wc. Moreover he did not score some useful 20s or 30s, i am talking about 60 70 and 80s. Don't you think letting shadab khan into domestic might spoil his game?

Though i think that inzamam has eyes on him and so has others. He should mostly go on a tours while mir should play for pakistan.
On another thought, shadab khan can purely play as a batsman though. I forgot to mention him scoring a crunch 50 in national odi cup with misbahul haq

Regards

Absolutely spot on. Shadab has a brilliant straight bat technique better than Hafeez, U Akmal and Shehzad. He can hit it big too. If we want to improve on our miserable ODI ranking he should be given a chance at no. 4 or no. 5 in ODIs especially when we are reluctant to play Haris Sohail.

 

[hur rizvi]

Shadab has more upside potential. Usama is made for T20 stuff only

 

[saeed5646]

Shadab is very good looking batsmen played very good knock today .lets see how he performs with the ball

 

[saeed5646]

what a competition we have

shadab is clear winner so far due to his batting and excellent fielding though usama can be better bowler

if he performs regularly

look at the recent performances of both of them

Shadab is leading wicket so far against west indies in t20 series



while usama mir is leading wicket taker in ACC Emerging CUP

 

[ExpressPacer]

Both boys looking good. Hopefully the future of Pakistan cricket is bright, at least in terms of bowling. I think Usama should be in the squad for ODI's too next series. Both could be tried. I'd take Shadab because of his batting however.

 

[Arsalan Pro]

Shadab Khan is better.

 

[ExpressPacer]

Shadab Khan is better.

Yes, I agree. Mir looks to be someone who can be expensive while Shadab is very economical. Nonetheless, Mir is a very good option and will create tough competition for Shadab.

 

[Arsalan Pro]

Yes, I agree. Mir looks to be someone who can be expensive while Shadab is very economical. Nonetheless, Mir is a very good option and will create tough competition for Shadab.

Usama too is good but surely Shadab bats well then Usama,which also gives him a edge over him.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Yes, I agree. Mir looks to be someone who can be expensive while Shadab is very economical. Nonetheless, Mir is a very good option and will create tough competition for Shadab.

Mir needs more control over his natural legspin, line and length, also bowls full tosses... cannot compare with shadab, a long way to go.. one day he will be too good, the other day just another bowler , quite inconsistent as well

 

[Chief Destroyer]

When the dust settles, Usama will be far ahead.

 

[Ahson8]

One of Usama or Irfan the leggie should've been given some games as well. It always helps to have competition and he would have been a good backup option right now instead of Yasir Shah with Shadab out.

 

[SensiblePakFan]

Usama Mir hands down.

 

[PakPremi]

Shadab has done really well. After seeing Yasir taken to cleaners in limited ODI format you appreciate Shadabs efforts more. Well done to young man with also bonus of saving 15 to 20 runs with his fielding alone.Batting is super bonus .

 

[Hasan123]

It’s a shame Usama Mir hasn’t gotten a chance. I think he is a real talent and could improve from playing more international cricket.

We wasted a lot of opportunities to introduce new players in bilateral T20s and ODI series against Zimbabwe and Sri Lanka.

 

[saeed5646]

What a shame usama is not even considered for A team .He is much better than yasir and definitely excellent replacement for shadab

 

[Sher Khan]

Where is usama Mir?

 

[FearlessRoar]

Which tough leagues is he talking about? The Hundred is not the toughest league. Usama Mir got ample chances in the ICC ODI World Cup 2023, and he is saying we are criticizing him for just one match.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1746036441522848080

 

[Rana]

Which tough leagues is he talking about? The Hundred is not the toughest league. Usama Mir got ample chances in the ICC ODI World Cup 2023, and he is saying we are criticizing him for just one match.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1746036441522848080

He deserves a Booker Prize nomination for this tweet.

Amazing acting skills

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

They are both useless is the correct answer.

 

[Asad T]

Shadab
slightly better leg spinner (but the bar isn't set particularly high)
way better with the bat
wayyyyy better in the field

 

[Maliq_Mudasir]

Which tough leagues is he talking about? The Hundred is not the toughest league. Usama Mir got ample chances in the ICC ODI World Cup 2023, and he is saying we are criticizing him for just one match.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1746036441522848080

BBL

 

[Asad T]

BBL

To be fair, he had a decent BBL outing

5 matches
5 wickets
econ 6.64
ave: 22.6
sr 20.4

I wonder if its because the grounds were just so big, that batters would just get caught on the boundary hahah

 

[deltexas]

He deserves a Booker Prize nomination for this tweet.

Amazing acting skills

So true lol ! Looks like rizwan is passing off his acting skills to Shadab as well
Shadab must be itching to come back in Mir's place!!

 

[Rana]

So true lol ! Looks like rizwan is passing off his acting skills to Shadab as well
Shadab must be itching to come back in Mir's place!!

There were plenty of players in the Pakistan team that were under scrutiny for their performance in the 1st T20,

But Shadab had to especially pick out Usama Mir to highlight and defend. Who asked him?

 

[shamaan]

They are both useless is the correct answer.

shadab has very decent stats in t20s and is league above Mir.