[VIDEO] Hindutva threat in the USA

[Stewie]

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Pretty disturbing… this thing is as bad as the extremist islamists.

 

[Varun]

Deport them.

Unfortunately they'll then end up over here, but it's a start.

 

[PakLFC]

Hindutva fascists need to understand that they are harming there own country. The Muslim's they hate so much are Indian's not outsiders. Hard to imagine what these idiots want? Civil war in India it seems.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Quite surprised to be honest, hindus in the UK usually keep a fairly low profile. Perhaps in the US they have a larger presence which is giving them confidence to become more vocal about their national Hindu identity. Although how relevant it is in America would be debatable.

 

[PakLFC]

Quite surprised to be honest, hindus in the UK usually keep a fairly low profile. Perhaps in the US they have a larger presence which is giving them confidence to become more vocal about their national Hindu identity. Although how relevant it is in America would be debatable.

Other then India almost everywhere else the Hindu's are heavily outnumbered by the Muslims. In America they are supported by the Jews and right wing media allowing them to openly express their hatred of Muslim's. On their own when in the minority the Hindu's are nothing.

 

[Local.Dada]

damn when I opened the video I was expecting images of blown up buildings and flags written in devanagri script asking for total Hinduization of the world and angry American born Hindus with Tilak and dhoti despite living in America and protesting on some non-Indian related Hindu persecution.

All I see is a paid shill giving her opinion and a sort of a circle jerk going on here for some consolation.

 

[Rajdeep]

Quite surprised to be honest, hindus in the UK usually keep a fairly low profile. Perhaps in the US they have a larger presence which is giving them confidence to become more vocal about their national Hindu identity. Although how relevant it is in America would be debatable.

Depends on what do you mean by keeping low profile. If you meant actively participating in protests, street hooliganism or other petty stuffs then sure they are. Its not due to fear of retribution but they have adopted the culture of UK very well. Hindus/Sikhs are probably the only community who is loved in UK even by British right wingers for being non troublemakers.

However you will always find hindus/Indians in large numbers in any corporate office. Just any bank or office you go, there will be hundreds of Patel/Sharma/Mishra etc.

 

[PakLFC]

You also have give credit to the Indian Hindu community for being much better educated and career oriented then Pakistani Muslim's in the UK. They are more sociable and have adopted better to UK culture in the sense that they are much more in to drinking, clubbing, pub culture, lad's culture and other such things associated with traditional British life. I strongly disagree that this is a quality required to be seen as a true Brit. I will never compromise my moral and spiritual values just to be seen as "one of the lad's".

 

[cric64]

You also have give credit to the Indian Hindu community for being much better educated and career oriented then Pakistani Muslim's in the UK. They are more sociable and have adopted better to UK culture in the sense that they are much more in to drinking, clubbing, pub culture, lad's culture and other such things associated with traditional British life. I strongly disagree that this is a quality required to be seen as a true Brit. I will never compromise my moral and spiritual values just to be seen as "one of the lad's".

This is a win win situation. You are happy sticking to your moral and spiritual values and Indians are happy to adapt to the western culture and progress in their lives. Everyone is happy

 

[JaDed]

lol..I was like did I miss some news.

Apparently the Hindutva threat is filing a lawsuit by Hindu Association against her.

 

[Technics 1210]

Amreeka too concerned with what is happening abroad and regime change and all, to realise the real threat of terrorism is within. Typical.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Depends on what do you mean by keeping low profile. If you meant actively participating in protests, street hooliganism or other petty stuffs then sure they are. Its not due to fear of retribution but they have adopted the culture of UK very well. Hindus/Sikhs are probably the only community who is loved in UK even by British right wingers for being non troublemakers.

However you will always find hindus/Indians in large numbers in any corporate office. Just any bank or office you go, there will be hundreds of Patel/Sharma/Mishra etc.

I don't know which country you live in, doesn't sound like the UK. Most Brits are barely aware of what a hindu is, Sikhs are more recognisable if they wear turbans. If you mean Indians, yes Brits would know about them, but the average Brit would probably just think it's a Pakistani walking along the road. As for the idea of them being beloved, maybe you should check out the UKIP poster again. I'll post it here again if I can find it.

 

[Champ_Pal]

From Wiki
In one of her tweets, Truschke, referring to an episode in Ramayana, said that Sita had admonished Rama as a "misogynist pig"; she cited a critical translation of the Valmiki Ramayana by Robert P. Goldman in support.[22][23][24] Goldman however denied that he ever used such language and deemed her choice of words to be "highly inappropriate".

So she is a Hinduphobe who criticized Rama for being a Misogynist Wild Boar. Then she proceeded to blame someone else for her tweet. Then she gets trolled by Hindus.

So there is history between her and Hindus and we are to take her opinions seriously

 

[Dead Ball]

Hindutva threat in USA?

Any examples of hindu extremists blowing up buildings, rioting in the streets destroying public property or killing cartoonists in Europe, UK or US in the last 100 years?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Hindutva threat in USA?

Any examples of hindu extremists blowing up buildings, rioting in the streets destroying public property or killing cartoonists in Europe, UK or US in the last 100 years?

I did think that as well, hence my first post expressing surprise, but I actually watched the video now and she claims she's had death and rape threats, her kids have been threatened. Mostly just online trolls I'm sure, but she says she needs armed guards when she's giving talks in public.

 

[Technics 1210]

Such sad and petty intellect displayed in this thread.

A ‘threat’ isn’t always physical, like a bomb, bullets, destruction of property; a threat can also have abstract effects which are worse than bombs.

Liberalism is a threat. It divides society, opposes democracy, refutes freedom.

MSM is a threat. It divides society. Brainwashes society. Programs society.

Capitalism is a threat. It creates a social divide. Class divides. Destroys generations.

Capitalism has killed more than terrorists in Amreeka, Zero bombs dropped, millions of lives destroyed through debt.

Hindutva is akin to Zionism, working in the shadows to promote hate, division, and terror!

 

[Champ_Pal]

Everything is a threat in USA except the far left loons like her.

 

[Kroll]

Lets be clear, this isn’t about a religion or religions per se as folk are coming on and chest thumping saying they’re better integrated or not compromising their moral values blah blah.

The issue at hand is about an ideology, an extremist and violent subset thats been added to what is largely a peaceful religion.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Hindutva threat in USA?

Any examples of hindu extremists blowing up buildings, rioting in the streets destroying public property or killing cartoonists in Europe, UK or US in the last 100 years?

Did you bother to watch her video before getting triggered?

I assume you think rape threats and death threats to her and her family are fine for you? She requires protection now and doesnt feel safe.

Hindu extremists are murdering, raping and destroying properties in India but thats ok because it wasnt related to cartoons lol.

 

[KingKhanWC]

From Wiki
In one of her tweets, Truschke, referring to an episode in Ramayana, said that Sita had admonished Rama as a "misogynist pig"; she cited a critical translation of the Valmiki Ramayana by Robert P. Goldman in support.[22][23][24] Goldman however denied that he ever used such language and deemed her choice of words to be "highly inappropriate".

So she is a Hinduphobe who criticized Rama for being a Misogynist Wild Boar. Then she proceeded to blame someone else for her tweet. Then she gets trolled by Hindus.

So there is history between her and Hindus and we are to take her opinions seriously

Death and rape threats are criminal offences, not trolling but I guess for many Hindutvas this is a normal way of communication.

Everything she says is correct. Lets hope you advise any Hindutva friends to stop sending a woman rape threats, its disgusting.

 

[Clueless]

Death and rape threats are criminal offences, not trolling but I guess for many Hindutvas this is a normal way of communication.

Everything she says is correct. Lets hope you advise any Hindutva friends to stop sending a woman rape threats, its disgusting.

Would you advise the same to those openly sending death and rape threats to Nupur Sharma then?
I guess for Islamists its the normal way of communication?

When you cannot lend respect to people of different belief than your own, bigotry is deeply ingrained.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Would you advise the same to those openly sending death and rape threats to Nupur Sharma then?
I guess for Islamists its the normal way of communication?

When you cannot lend respect to people of different belief than your own, bigotry is deeply ingrained.

It was probably Hindutvas claiming to be Muslims. We know rape threats and rapes are normal for Hindu extremists, reason why India is the worst place for women on the planet. But if it were Muslims its also disgusting.

You seem to find it difficult to condemn your Hindutva mates or making such threats to this lady. Do you support such threats?

 

[MenInG]

It was probably Hindutvas claiming to be Muslims. We know rape threats and rapes are normal for Hindu extremists, reason why India is the worst place for women on the planet. But if it were Muslims its also disgusting.

You seem to find it difficult to condemn your Hindutva mates or making such threats to this lady. Do you support such threats?

This will be painful.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Death and rape threats are criminal offences, not trolling but I guess for many Hindutvas this is a normal way of communication.

Everything she says is correct. Lets hope you advise any Hindutva friends to stop sending a woman rape threats, its disgusting.

If Death Threats came from with in USA borders, they should be kicked out of the country or at least jailed and given some good jail treatment.
If Death threats came from India, then there is nothing to worry. These guys cannot do anything to that lady.

 

[KingKhanWC]

If Death Threats came from with in USA borders, they should be kicked out of the country or at least jailed and given some good jail treatment.
If Death threats came from India, then there is nothing to worry. These guys cannot do anything to that lady.

Death threats can be from trolls, all sorts inc Boxers, Politicians, Footballers etc receive death threats , 99% being no danger. But its rare to have rape threats, it shows a disturbing mentality of causing torture to a female.

Hinduism is a peaceful religion like all major religions, its important for Hindus to stop this growing fanatical Hindutva movement which will only cause misery for their own nation in the end.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Death threats can be from trolls, all sorts inc Boxers, Politicians, Footballers etc receive death threats , 99% being no danger. But its rare to have rape threats, it shows a disturbing mentality of causing torture to a female.

Hinduism is a peaceful religion like all major religions, its important for Hindus to stop this growing fanatical Hindutva movement which will only cause misery for their own nation in the end.

All kinds of physical violence should be treated the same. It does not matter if it is rape or murder or acid attack etc.

Hindu fanatics are limited to India only. Outside of India, they are like a defanged snake or a declawed and defanged tiger.

 

[Stewie]

Hindu extremists are typically not a bold as Islamist extremists, without the backing of their government, outside of India I can understand they should not be a threat but the anonymity provided by internet and social media has emboldended them. They will probably crap their pants if say american police were to knock at their door for questioning but they sure seem to be happy issuing death threats on this woman and her family. You may question her motives all you want but I wonder what happened to the whole "freedom of speech" thing when others issue offensive statements about Islam?
Here its not even their religion in question, but she is talking about a group of people who are rightly going to ruin it for all the peace loving sensible hindus and yet she and her friends are getting threated. Surely it has to be taken seriously. This is no longer just a joke!

 

[Local.Dada]

Hindu extremists are typically not a bold as Islamist extremists, without the backing of their government, outside of India I can understand they should not be a threat but the anonymity provided by internet and social media has emboldended them. They will probably crap their pants if say american police were to knock at their door for questioning but they sure seem to be happy issuing death threats on this woman and her family. You may question her motives all you want but I wonder what happened to the whole "freedom of speech" thing when others issue offensive statements about Islam?
Here its not even their religion in question, but she is talking about a group of people who are rightly going to ruin it for all the peace loving sensible hindus and yet she and her friends are getting threated. Surely it has to be taken seriously. This is no longer just a joke!

Of course Hindus in America will wet their pants when police attack them. Most if not all Hindus in America are regular white collar or working class folk whose sole aim in life is the betterment of their kids and their own lives. I would assume that’s a given in most normal households.

However sure the day there are enough youngstas in Hinduism who mostly spend time attending radical interpretations of the religion by questionable “clerics” and get by enough on welfare and the only identity left to the land of living is the accent picked up due to few years of public school before dropping out for a higher purpose, that day probably Hindus will grow enough cajones to take on the police/ government.

Hope that clears some doubts

 

[moghul]

Hindutva fascists need to understand that they are harming there own country. The Muslim's they hate so much are Indian's not outsiders. Hard to imagine what these idiots want? Civil war in India it seems.

Yes, Hindus and Indians should learn from the blunders of "islamic" extremism and how much damage they have caused to their religion and the country they belong to .

 

[Buffet]

Yes, Hindus and Indians should learn from the blunders of "islamic" extremism and how much damage they have caused to their religion and the country they belong to .

Often self proclaimed moderates are also extremists and they cause a lot more damage without realizing that. Some time you can't blame because bias makes people blind. Look no further than this thread - posts and quoted replies.

Anyone doing threats in name of religion or without religion should be dealt with. If anyone has problem with views then counter it with your views.

 

[daytrader]

All kinds of physical violence should be treated the same. It does not matter if it is rape or murder or acid attack etc.

Hindu fanatics are limited to India only. Outside of India, they are like a defanged snake or a declawed and defanged tiger.

It's not the case. In the west, they're very much organized and are strong lobbyists for their interests. However they fear resorting to violence due to individual repercussions in a foreign land.

 

[PakLFC]

Yes, Hindus and Indians should learn from the blunders of "islamic" extremism and how much damage they have caused to their religion and the country they belong to .

They must the same tolerant Hindu's who are turning India upside down demanding the blood of Muslim's in their conferences! I wonder why Hindu's go to the Middle East begging for jobs or for holidays in Turkey and Maldive islands if Muslims are that bad?

 

[Champ_Pal]

It's not the case. In the west, they're very much organized and are strong lobbyists for their interests. However they fear resorting to violence due to individual repercussions in a foreign land.

Every organization in the West tries to lobby for its own interest. Until they prove that they can use physical violence or at least issue a public threat to harm USA citizens, they cannot be considered a threat. It will be just fear mongering.

 

[Local.Dada]

It's not the case. In the west, they're very much organized and are strong lobbyists for their interests..

That’s exactly what IK was praising about Indian policy and diplomacy. That’s not really a negative.

That’s what every country trying to have a presence does.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Every organization in the West tries to lobby for its own interest. Until they prove that they can use physical violence or at least issue a public threat to harm USA citizens, they cannot be considered a threat. It will be just fear mongering.

Well that is what this lady is doing, she is making threats made to her and her family public, and also revealing she has needed armed guards to attend events where she is sharing knowledge as a scholar. I don't know how they deal with this in the US, but in Britain this sort of stuff is not tolerated.

 

[PakLFC]

No wonder India has one of the highest number of expats in the world trying to escape.

If India is that awesome then why is that the case? Wherever you look USA, Canada, UAE people of Indian ethnicity mostly top every list of foreigners.

Once the Hindutva fascists are done with non Hindu's they will turn on Dalits and non Brahmin Hindu's. This is because these terrorists much like the Zionists consider themselves to be chosen people.

 

[PakLFC]

If I hated a community would never live in or visit that country. If i hated Christians would never live or work in any Christian/western country. The Hindu fascists hate Muslims but love living, holidaying and working in the Middle East, Turkey, Maldive islands, Malaysia, Morocco, Tunisia and so forth. Any community that has no love or respect for the host country should be thrown out hence i support the Muslim countries who are doing that to the Hindu's. They deserve it.

 

[PakLFC]

Christian hating Hindu's should be thrown out of America.

 

[PakLFC]

I kid you not when saying if these thick Hindu's starting digging under their houses in NYC or London they'd find Hindu temples or a shiva linga. This is how stupid these people are

 

[NishanKonar]

I kid you not when saying if these thick Hindu's starting digging under their houses in NYC or London they'd find Hindu temples or a shiva linga. This is how stupid these people are

Calm down bro. Hindus ( and most Indians ) come to USA to become the next Sundar Pichai or Amar Bose. Not to dig for temples or statues.

You seem to be very jealous and envious of HIndus ( probably bcoz of how successful they are in the West ) . But envy and jealousy wont help u . May be Pakistanis should start focusing more on education and less on religion

 

[PakLFC]

Calm down bro. Hindus ( and most Indians ) come to USA to become the next Sundar Pichai or Amar Bose. Not to dig for temples or statues.

You seem to be very jealous and envious of HIndus ( probably bcoz of how successful they are in the West ) . But envy and jealousy wont help u . May be Pakistanis should start focusing more on education and less on religion

Jealous that most Hindu's live in slums I do often give credit to the Hindu community for out performing the Muslim's in jobs and education in the west. You missed that one

This thread is about Hindutva hatred towards Muslim's in the west telling me it is the Hindu's who seem to be jealous of Muslim's! Pak's do need to do better in business and education, i am not holding the Hindu's responsible for that. I have never seen Muslim hate towards Hindu's in the west.

 

[PakLFC]

I see their are protests against yoga in the Maldive islands. Hey if Muslim's are being harnessed in India then i say give it back with interest! That is the only way to deal with it. Oppress the oppressor instead of turning the other cheek.

 

[NishanKonar]

Jealous that most Hindu's live in slums I do often give credit to the Hindu community for out performing the Muslim's in jobs and education in the west. You missed that one

This thread is about Hindutva hatred towards Muslim's in the west telling me it is the Hindu's who seem to be jealous of Muslim's! Pak's do need to do better in business and education, i am not holding the Hindu's responsible for that. I have never seen Muslim hate towards Hindu's in the west.

Yes its true lot of Indians live in slums and poverty. But its also true Indian economy is growing at 7-8% every year and millions of families are moving out of poverty

Plus its true that there are extremist Hundutva groups but thats true for Islam as well. We dont judge all Muslims like the way u are deriding Hindus

ps ; Indians are far ahead of Pakistanis in every metric in the West. The only metric Pakistanis are ahead of Indians in the West is crime rates/ So I really wonder why Hindus will be jealous of ?

The only group Indians are slightly jealous of are Jews. We really envy their success and power in the USA

 

[NishanKonar]

I see their are protests against yoga in the Maldive islands. Hey if Muslim's are being harnessed in India then i say give it back with interest! That is the only way to deal with it. Oppress the oppressor instead of turning the other cheek.

If Hindus disrupt Eid celebrations in India - u will lose ur mind

But when radical islamists disrupt Yoga performance in a Muslim country - u are so happy

Now tell me who is the real extremist ?

 

[PakLFC]

Yes its true lot of Indians live in slums and poverty. But its also true Indian economy is growing at 7-8% every year and millions of families are moving out of poverty

Plus its true that there are extremist Hundutva groups but thats true for Islam as well. We dont judge all Muslims like the way u are deriding Hindus

ps ; Indians are far ahead of Pakistanis in every metric in the West. The only metric Pakistanis are ahead of Indians in the West is crime rates/ So I really wonder why Hindus will be jealous of ?

The only group Indians are slightly jealous of are Jews. We really envy their success and power in the USA

Indians have the advantage of being nine times bigger in size. This means that you will be more successful in many spheres yet having much greater problems as well. You see economy is greatly dependent on man power as well.

I am afraid the RSS is judging all Muslim's as can be seen when they call for the open rape and murder of Muslim's in conclaves. Thousands of people cheer it on as well supporting open genocide. This is not me just saying it now but many human rights groups including the Americans. Can you show me any video where Muslim's are calling for the open genocide of Hindu's in any country? We have incidents in countries like Pak that is different.

Your criticism of Muslim's under achieving or should I say Pakistanis under achieving at work, business and education has ancient reasons. You need to do some research however yes we have to improve on this issue.

 

[PakLFC]

If Hindus disrupt Eid celebrations in India - u will lose ur mind

But when radical islamists disrupt Yoga performance in a Muslim country - u are so happy

Now tell me who is the real extremist ?

Who said I am happy? The point is if Hindu's don't let Muslim's practice Islam peacefully in India then there will be repercussions. Millions of Hindu's have a problem with hijab, namaz and now they are finding a Mandir under every Masjid in India from Taj Mahal to many others. The extremists are the ones who initiated all this-Hindu's! There will be a reaction if you continue oppressing Muslim's in India.

 

[PakLFC]

If I can't make namaz peacefully in India then Hindu's shouldn't be allowed to worship their God's and Goddesses or perform Yoga in Muslim countries.

 

[NishanKonar]

If I can't make namaz peacefully in India then Hindu's shouldn't be allowed to worship their God's and Goddesses or perform Yoga in Muslim countries.

This is the same justification used by RSS in India. If Muslims persecute Hindus in Pakistan or Bangladesh - we will retaliate against Muslims in India

RSS and Islamists like you are basically birds of the same feather

 

[PakLFC]

This is the same justification used by RSS in India. If Muslims persecute Hindus in Pakistan or Bangladesh - we will retaliate against Muslims in India

RSS and Islamists like you are basically birds of the same feather

I am human not a bird, a Muslim not an Islamist whatever that is!! The point is that the Hindutva fascists started it not the Muslim's. Do you expect the Muslim's of the world to do nothing over the oppression of there coreligionists in India or the blasphemous remarks by Nupur Sharma? RSS has to apologize about the blasphemy. Make it soon!

 

[NishanKonar]

Indians have the advantage of being nine times bigger in size. This means that you will be more successful in many spheres yet having much greater problems as well. You see economy is greatly dependent on man power as well.

I am afraid the RSS is judging all Muslim's as can be seen when they call for the open rape and murder of Muslim's in conclaves. Thousands of people cheer it on as well supporting open genocide. This is not me just saying it now but many human rights groups including the Americans. Can you show me any video where Muslim's are calling for the open genocide of Hindu's in any country? We have incidents in countries like Pak that is different.

Your criticism of Muslim's under achieving or should I say Pakistanis under achieving at work, business and education has ancient reasons. You need to do some research however yes we have to improve on this issue.

Bangladesh has smaller population than Pakistan and yet they economically ahead of Pakistan. So this size excuse does not make sense

Pakistan is under achieving not bcoz of any historical reasons. The only reason Pakistan is under achieving is bcoz your society is too obsessed wit religion. Of course India and Bangladesh have their share of religious fanatics but their society is still more concerned with education and jobs. Sheikh Hasina has wiped out fanatics from her nation and I hope one day someone will wipe out RSS from India. In any case RSS is mostly present in North India. The South and East India are largely immune from RSS.

On the other hand Pakistan youth is more obsessed with religion, jihad, Khatme nabuuwat , Ahmadis and what not. Ideally your youth should focus more on studying maths and physics and less on religion. That will solve most of your problems

So instead of ranting non stop against India and Hindus - may be you should look at your own nation. That will help your nation. All these rants against Hindus or Indians will make no difference to us - as long as Hindus keep getting the best scores on GRE / GMAT and secure admissions at Harvard and Stanford

 

[Champ_Pal]

If I can't make namaz peacefully in India then Hindu's shouldn't be allowed to worship their God's and Goddesses or perform Yoga in Muslim countries.

There are millions of Mosques in India where Namaz is performed and Adhan is heard by every person with in 1 kilometer of the Mosque. Except for a few issues, 99.99% of all Mosques are not scared of anyone interrupting their prayers.
Your generalization of all Mosques being forced to shutdown Namaz is happening in China. Not in India.

 

[NishanKonar]

There are millions of Mosques in India where Namaz is performed and Adhan is heard by every person with in 1 kilometer of the Mosque. Except for a few issues, 99.99% of all Mosques are not scared of anyone interrupting their prayers.
Your generalization of all Mosques being forced to shutdown Namaz is happening in China. Not in India.

In Pakistan the Ahmedis cannot even pray or read the Quran. A world famous economist Atiq Mian was sacked bcoz of his religion. Another world famous scientist Abdus Salam was disowned bcoz of his faith. But of course most Pakistanis have no prob;ems wkth all that

But any incident involving Muslims in India - they will lose their head. A muslim can become a President or Prime Ministeer of India. But can a Ahmedi or Hindu or Sikh ever become a PM in Pakistan ?

That's why I keep saying - instead of pointing fingers at India - may be you should have a hard look at the mirror !

 

[PakLFC]

Bangladesh has smaller population than Pakistan and yet they economically ahead of Pakistan. So this size excuse does not make sense

Pakistan is under achieving not bcoz of any historical reasons. The only reason Pakistan is under achieving is bcoz your society is too obsessed wit religion. Of course India and Bangladesh have their share of religious fanatics but their society is still more concerned with education and jobs. Sheikh Hasina has wiped out fanatics from her nation and I hope one day someone will wipe out RSS from India. In any case RSS is mostly present in North India. The South and East India are largely immune from RSS.

On the other hand Pakistan youth is more obsessed with religion, jihad, Khatme nabuuwat , Ahmadis and what not. Ideally your youth should focus more on studying maths and physics and less on religion. That will solve most of your problems

So instead of ranting non stop against India and Hindus - may be you should look at your own nation. That will help your nation. All these rants against Hindus or Indians will make no difference to us - as long as Hindus keep getting the best scores on GRE / GMAT and secure admissions at Harvard and Stanford

It does make perfect sense if you have the ability to go in to greater detail. See the location of Pak with war next door in Afghanistan and it's relationship with India has caused great problems for Pak. In the 1960's even 1970's Pak was a good place much better then India then the Soviets invaded, the rest is history. Your neighbour greatly effects what happens in your country.

I am afraid the thing is that Pakistan having been formed in the name of Islam will always be a somewhat religious country. Yet again I have to point out that this over religiosity occurred after the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan brainwashing many people into hatred of the other. Anyway what is happening in India today is even worse! You mean Hasina has agreed to all of India's demands in order to be left alone besides what country is Bangladesh currently at war with that they should not be more progressive?

Stop picking spots of where the RSS is more influential! It is in India is all that matters! That is like me saying there are more fanatics in Peshawar then Lahore. It is none of your business if Pak's prefer to be more religious unless we force it on non Muslim's or our neighbour that we don't. There are millions of non religious Pakistanis as well! Look whose talking here a man whose country had thousand killed in Gujarat and his party openly encourages terror against Muslim's!

Rather I suggest you stop killing our coreligionists in India instead of lecturing us on human rights. Even the Americans who you love so much are regularly calling you out over your hypocrisy. My attacks are on RSS Hindu fanatics who expect to be treated well in Muslim countries while oppressing the same community in India

"On the other hand Pakistan youth is more obsessed with religion, jihad, Khatme nabuuwat , Ahmadis and what not. Ideally your youth should focus more on studying maths and physics and less on religion. That will solve most of your problems" That coming from a country where people are being killed for wearing hijab, eating beef and having Muslim names! The west lecturing us i can understand but Indian's talking about human rights? You can't be serious

 

[NishanKonar]

It does make perfect sense if you have the ability to go in to greater detail. See the location of Pak with war next door in Afghanistan and it's relationship with India has caused great problems for Pak. In the 1960's even 1970's Pak was a good place much better then India then the Soviets invaded, the rest is history. Your neighbour greatly effects what happens in your country.

I am afraid the thing is that Pakistan having been formed in the name of Islam will always be a somewhat religious country. Yet again I have to point out that this over religiosity occurred after the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan brainwashing many people into hatred of the other. Anyway what is happening in India today is even worse! You mean Hasina has agreed to all of India's demands in order to be left alone besides what country is Bangladesh currently at war with that they should not be more progressive?

Stop picking spots of where the RSS is more influential! It is in India is all that matters! That is like me saying there are more fanatics in Peshawar then Lahore. It is none of your business if Pak's prefer to be more religious unless we force it on non Muslim's or our neighbour that we don't. There are millions of non religious Pakistanis as well! Look whose talking here a man whose country had thousand killed in Gujarat and his party openly encourages terror against Muslim's!

Rather I suggest you stop killing our coreligionists in India instead of lecturing us on human rights. Even the Americans who you love so much are regularly calling you out over your hypocrisy. My attacks are on RSS Hindu fanatics who expect to be treated well in Muslim countries while oppressing the same community in India

"On the other hand Pakistan youth is more obsessed with religion, jihad, Khatme nabuuwat , Ahmadis and what not. Ideally your youth should focus more on studying maths and physics and less on religion. That will solve most of your problems" That coming from a country where people are being killed for wearing hijab, eating beef and having Muslim names! The west lecturing us i can understand but Indian's talking about human rights? You can't be serious

Of coourse Paksitan was created in the name of Islam. But the point si now religious fanaticism has reached a stage which is detrimental to Pakistan's cause

Even if u compare at per capita level, Pakistan produces far fewer scientists / engineers / doctors per million people than say India or Bangladesh. Which is why Pakistan is forever in economic crisis and struggling with heavy debt. You need educated youth to take a nation forward

Anyways I don't think you will every listen. Just keep believing in your delusions. All I can say is the situation in Pakistan will keep getting worse while India and Bangladesh will keep moving forward. And that will create more insecurity and jealousy among pak nationalists like you

 

[PakLFC]

In Pakistan the Ahmedis cannot even pray or read the Quran. A world famous economist Atiq Mian was sacked bcoz of his religion. Another world famous scientist Abdus Salam was disowned bcoz of his faith. But of course most Pakistanis have no prob;ems wkth all that

But any incident involving Muslims in India - they will lose their head. A muslim can become a President or Prime Ministeer of India. But can a Ahmedi or Hindu or Sikh ever become a PM in Pakistan ?

That's why I keep saying - instead of pointing fingers at India - may be you should have a hard look at the mirror !

Sure Pak has many problems like you have mentioned. Whilst condemning these things no one is calling for them being burnt alive or open genocide. Ahmedis being non Muslim's have there own places of where they can do whatever they want. Again there are incidents against them where as in India thousands call for open genocide. You gotta try harder!

No a non Muslim can not be a PM of Pak because the country was formed in the name of Islam where as India calls itself secular. Would it not be stupid for a non Muslim who knows nothing about Islam to be the leader of the country? That said many non Muslim's in Pakistan have done and are doing very well including the military. The mirror says that secular India is where non Hindu's are being harnessed everyday. Pak may have problems but are of a very different kind.

 

[PakLFC]

Of coourse Paksitan was created in the name of Islam. But the point si now religious fanaticism has reached a stage which is detrimental to Pakistan's cause

Even if u compare at per capita level, Pakistan produces far fewer scientists / engineers / doctors per million people than say India or Bangladesh. Which is why Pakistan is forever in economic crisis and struggling with heavy debt. You need educated youth to take a nation forward

Anyways I don't think you will every listen. Just keep believing in your delusions. All I can say is the situation in Pakistan will keep getting worse while India and Bangladesh will keep moving forward. And that will create more insecurity and jealousy among pak nationalists like you

That has happened because of the war in Afghanistan greatly crippling the economy. As I have explained that education in Pak or the lack off it is and was due to other situations. When there is no education then there will rightfully be a lack of professionals so we need to deal with the disease not the symptoms.

India is no example to us I am afraid neither am i remotely envious of India much to your disappointment. What is there for me to be jealous of India?? Must be the lack of toilets, slums and ill people that keep me awake at night!

The proof is in the pudding! The whole world is watching Hindu fanatics running around in India wanting to make it a "Hindu Rashtra" by 2024, good luck with that! You can send us a pic here wearing an orange loongi when that happens. India is going towards breaking point, nowhere else.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

In Pakistan the Ahmedis cannot even pray or read the Quran. A world famous economist Atiq Mian was sacked bcoz of his religion. Another world famous scientist Abdus Salam was disowned bcoz of his faith. But of course most Pakistanis have no prob;ems wkth all that

But any incident involving Muslims in India - they will lose their head. A muslim can become a President or Prime Ministeer of India. But can a Ahmedi or Hindu or Sikh ever become a PM in Pakistan ?

That's why I keep saying - instead of pointing fingers at India - may be you should have a hard look at the mirror !

Thread is about India not Pakistan.

 

[NishanKonar]

That has happened because of the war in Afghanistan greatly crippling the economy. As I have explained that education in Pak or the lack off it is and was due to other situations. When there is no education then there will rightfully be a lack of professionals so we need to deal with the disease not the symptoms.

India is no example to us I am afraid neither am i remotely envious of India much to your disappointment. What is there for me to be jealous of India?? Must be the lack of toilets, slums and ill people that keep me awake at night!

The proof is in the pudding! The whole world is watching Hindu fanatics running around in India wanting to make it a "Hindu Rashtra" by 2024, good luck with that! You can send us a pic here wearing an orange loongi when that happens. India is going towards breaking point, nowhere else.

May be in 2030 we should bump this thread - to check where India and Pakistan are in 2030. Which country will be doing better in 2030 and which country will be in absolute shambles

It will be like that " Umar Akmal is better than Virat Kohli " thread on Pakpassion

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Of coourse Paksitan was created in the name of Islam. But the point si now religious fanaticism has reached a stage which is detrimental to Pakistan's cause

Even if u compare at per capita level, Pakistan produces far fewer scientists / engineers / doctors per million people than say India or Bangladesh. Which is why Pakistan is forever in economic crisis and struggling with heavy debt. You need educated youth to take a nation forward

Anyways I don't think you will every listen. Just keep believing in your delusions. All I can say is the situation in Pakistan will keep getting worse while India and Bangladesh will keep moving forward. And that will create more insecurity and jealousy among pak nationalists like you

Thread is about India not Pakistan.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Bangladesh has smaller population than Pakistan and yet they economically ahead of Pakistan. So this size excuse does not make sense

Pakistan is under achieving not bcoz of any historical reasons. The only reason Pakistan is under achieving is bcoz your society is too obsessed wit religion. Of course India and Bangladesh have their share of religious fanatics but their society is still more concerned with education and jobs. Sheikh Hasina has wiped out fanatics from her nation and I hope one day someone will wipe out RSS from India. In any case RSS is mostly present in North India. The South and East India are largely immune from RSS.

On the other hand Pakistan youth is more obsessed with religion, jihad, Khatme nabuuwat , Ahmadis and what not. Ideally your youth should focus more on studying maths and physics and less on religion. That will solve most of your problems

So instead of ranting non stop against India and Hindus - may be you should look at your own nation. That will help your nation. All these rants against Hindus or Indians will make no difference to us - as long as Hindus keep getting the best scores on GRE / GMAT and secure admissions at Harvard and Stanford

Thread is about India not Pakistan.

Come on bro....three posts in a row?

 

[Rajdeep]

There is no such thing as 'Hindutva threat' in USA or anywhere. I am aware few are desperate to invent such term and defame hindus but no one buy such things unfortunately. Hindus dont blow up trains, cause riots, shoot in nightclubs or kill people chanting 'Jai Shri Ram' in the west. Kaun sa threat?

Though I dont live in USA but have been there multiple times. Only hard working and law abiding hindus live there. If you go to places like New Jersey or Dallas or Houston or even in Tampa, you will find most hindus are flourishing there.

As I said before, here in UK....hindus along with Sikhs are considered the least trouble maker community whom even ultra right wingers love.

 

[PakLFC]

May be in 2030 we should bump this thread - to check where India and Pakistan are in 2030. Which country will be doing better in 2030 and which country will be in absolute shambles

It will be like that " Umar Akmal is better than Virat Kohli " thread on Pakpassion

Sure i challenge you on that. I guarantee you that Pak will be much better by 2030 after WW3 where as most likely there will be no India by then. You will run away then forgetting all about this thread or pretend to be someone else! Relax, i always give India credit when it's due

 

[Firebat]

Keep to the topic.

 

[IndoorCricket]

There is no such thing as 'Hindutva threat' in USA or anywhere. I am aware few are desperate to invent such term and defame hindus but no one buy such things unfortunately. Hindus dont blow up trains, cause riots, shoot in nightclubs or kill people chanting 'Jai Shri Ram' in the west. Kaun sa threat?

Though I dont live in USA but have been there multiple times. Only hard working and law abiding hindus live there. If you go to places like New Jersey or Dallas or Houston or even in Tampa, you will find most hindus are flourishing there.

As I said before, here in UK....hindus along with Sikhs are considered the least trouble maker community whom even ultra right wingers love.

There is one lady who says she is getting threats from some losers and here the OP compares it with islamic extremism. Its a far stretch to say the least. Hinduphobia is blatant here.

 

[Rajdeep]

There is one lady who says she is getting threats from some losers and here the OP compares it with islamic extremism. Its a far stretch to say the least. Hinduphobia is blatant here.

That lady's threat is genuine and some idiot somewhere threatened her. But equating it and calling it a 'Hindutva threat' in USA is sesesalisation on OPs part.

Oh I also heard someone brought the topic of rape threats from hindus...lol. I mean someone just need to google Rotherham groomings. Let me know any hindu gang is involver in such crimes abroad.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Its becoming global threat

https://twitter.com/x/status/1851049482844057678