[VIDEO] "I can still handle 10 guys like you alone" : Shahid Afridi

[MenInG]

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Karachi: Pakistan’s former T20 captain Shahid Afridi has said that he is till available to play for Pakistan and he has conveyed the same to chief selector Inzamam-ul-Haq. He is

Speaking to media in Karachi, the flamboyant all-rounder said that he has contacted Pakistan Cricket Board’s Chief selector and former cricketer Inzamam regrading his willingness to play for Pakistan once again. He added that we have the tendency to make a player hero in one day and forget about the services of a cricketer who has been playing for a period of 25 years.

Shahid Afridi feels that it would be not the right thing to do by putting a lot of pressure on Sarfraz Ahmed by making him captain of the ODI side despite the fact that Azhar Ali has not been able to deliver as captain. He also praised Sarfraz Ahmed for leading the side in a best possible manner in his first ever outing as T20 captain and was pleased to see that Pakistan have finally got a captain with an aggressive intent.

Regarding his retirement Shahid Afridi said that he will call it a day when he feels its the right time and won’t be a burden on side but at the moment he is enjoying his cricket and he has no plans about a potential retirement from the game altogether.


Shahid Afridi speaking to to the media

"We turn someone who has done well in one game into the world's best player and discard someone who has been playing for 25 years in one day, this is how our media operates"

"Its best that the media stop taking decisions about our cricket and put so much pressure on Sarfraz Ahmed or on Azhar Ali"

"Pakistan team did not perform well under Azhar Ali on the tour but as a batsman, his performance was fine"

"Sarfraz Ahmed had an outstanding first IT20 game and I can see he has the traits of an aggressive captain which is needed"

"No further pressure (of ODI captaincy) should be put on Sarfraz at the moment"

"I am playing my cricket and am enjoying and will leave when I am not ready and not let others take that decision for me"

"I told Inzamam-ul-Haq that he should try out younger players but I am playing county/league cricket and if needed will be available for Pakistan; at the moment I am enjoying my cricket"

 

[kingusama92]

Let's hope Inzi can keep him out.

Just retire.

 

[JattMaula]

"I told Inzamam-ul-Haq that he should try out younger players"

Real reason Lala is taking willing break from team.

 

[emranabbas]

Afridi bhai you don't worry about the pressure, unlike you Sarfaraz can handle pressure, you please just enjoy your league cricket until you retire

 

[Faisalsq092]

Bhai are u sure he didn't mention the lack of talent in Pakistan and how he has gone out of the way to take responsibility and play until a suitable replacement is available. Imad Wasim is miles ahead of the current Afridi, so we do have his replacement now.

 

[MRSN]

a dig at Misbah's captaincy.

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[Syed1]

"I told Inzamam-ul-Haq that he should try out younger players"

Real reason Lala is taking willing break from team.

That is him asking for his own selection. He is after all a 16 year old younsta beauty

 

[Syed1]

Bhai are u sure he didn't mention the lack of talent in Pakistan and how he has gone out of the way to take responsibility and play until a suitable replacement is available. Imad Wasim is miles ahead of the current Afridi, so we do have his replacement now.

Exactly the innings Imad played in the last ODI Afridi couldn't have played that even if he had five tries.

If Afridi had been coming in place of Imad the game would have been pretty much lost..

 

[MRSN]

Afridi's biggest blunder was to resign from captaincy. Pakistan ODI team was shaping really well under his tenure but his resignation brought back Misbah and YK,Asad as players when they should have been sidelined for their Mohali knock.

 

[MenInG]

a dig at Misbah's captaincy.

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Thanks

Quotes:

Shahid Afridi:

"Our approach to ODI cricket prior to and during the 2015 World Cup has been very negative"
"Gone are the days when you can get to 14-15 runs an over in the last few overs"

Aamir Sohail

"This is the same type of blame which being put on Misbah in 2011 as well"
"Problem isn't one person but its a collective fault with the PCB taking the full blame"
"They simply don't understand the requirements of intl cricket in today's world"
"There were frequent changes before 2015 without any idea of which player was actually suitable for this format"
"So wrong to blame one person and its unfair"

 

[ExplicitAI]

I don't mind Afridi playing for us in T20's, he's a good T20 cricketer but a horrible captain as of late who's captaincy skills have regressed from the 2011 WC where he was sensational.

 

[Uzair Gooner]

Afridi when asked about his fitness

"I can still easily handle 8-10 guys like you"

LOL

 

[The Last Of The Stars]

Afridi's biggest blunder was to resign from captaincy. Pakistan ODI team was shaping really well under his tenure but his resignation brought back Misbah and YK,Asad as players when they should have been sidelined for their Mohali knock.

Did he resign or was removed? But good point, going with Misbah in ODI cricket affected the players' mindsets.

 

[MenInG]

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[Zaz]

Its high time someone said to afridi his careers over and he will not be picked going forward

His statements in the media as usual do not help the team, they are controversial and pinpoint blame on others
Hes always talked a good game but when it comes down to it hes been a burden on the team and someone whos totally unreliable and volatile

In one sentence he says he wants the board to give youngsters a chance, in the other he says hes available and willing to play for Pakistan.

Currently we have imad wasim whos done well and hopefully within the next 2-3 months we'll have another allrounder or 2 making their position in the 15 permanent

Theres no need to bring back someone whos not only divisive but also spent

 

[volcyz]

What a joke....

Stupid dig at Misbah

 

[emranabbas]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Reporter asked Shahid Afridi about his current levels of fitness.<br>Shahid Afridi replied "I can still handle 10 guys like you alone"<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/774553893640531968">September 10, 2016</a></blockquote>
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This 1 is class

 

[gazza619]

Let's hope Inzi can keep him out.

Just retire.

Not sure who i dislike more after that statement, Nawaz Shareef or Afridi..


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[street cricketer]

What a team man Lala is!

Dropping himself for youngsters

 

[Markhor]

Afridi's biggest blunder was to resign from captaincy. Pakistan ODI team was shaping really well under his tenure but his resignation brought back Misbah and YK,Asad as players when they should have been sidelined for their Mohali knock.

Afridi's never been captaincy material, he doesn't have the tactical nous or maturity.

His success as captain came during the peak of our spin trio's careers - Afridi himself, Saeed Ajmal and Mohammad Hafeez.

As for his resignation, Afridi had it coming in 2011.

He was publicly criticising the board, coach and selectors despite being repeatedly told not to. Eventually PCB handed out show cause notice and threatened to withdraw Afridi's NOC for the T20 leagues and Afridi resigned after staging another one of his "conditional retirements" - is this the type of character who should be skippering a side ?

 

[MenInG]

What a joke....

Stupid dig at Misbah

I dont think so - and it is a fair comment and his view. We may not all agree with it.

Aamir Sohail then did put his comments to test later on.

 

[Markhor]

Aamir Sohail

"This is the same type of blame which being put on Misbah in 2011 as well"
"Problem isn't one person but its a collective fault with the PCB taking the full blame"
"They simply don't understand the requirements of intl cricket in today's world"
"There were frequent changes before 2015 without any idea of which player was actually suitable for this format"
"So wrong to blame one person and its unfair"

Aamir Sohail bang on but PP armchair experts will continue to hold Misbah solely responsible for ODI downfall and will ignore every other mitigating factor.

 

[JattMaula]

Lala could try pro wrestling!

 

[super hitter]

Did he resign or was removed? But good point, going with Misbah in ODI cricket affected the players' mindsets.

What a team man Lala is!

Dropping himself for youngsters

he was removed fro the team bro, when did he drop himself?

if you are talking about ODI's...then people forced him to do so as they are doing now to remove him from T-20's permanently.

 

[super hitter]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Reporter asked Shahid Afridi about his current levels of fitness.<br>Shahid Afridi replied "I can still handle 10 guys like you alone"<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/774553893640531968">September 10, 2016</a></blockquote>
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looks like he wasn't impressed by Malik!

overall...A stupid gesture.

 

[MRSN]

Afridi's never been captaincy material, he doesn't have the tactical nous or maturity.

His success as captain came during the peak of our spin trio's careers - Afridi himself, Saeed Ajmal and Mohammad Hafeez.

As for his resignation, Afridi had it coming in 2011.

He was publicly criticising the board, coach and selectors despite being repeatedly told not to. Eventually PCB handed out show cause notice and threatened to withdraw Afridi's NOC for the T20 leagues and Afridi resigned after staging another one of his "conditional retirements" - is this the type of character who should be skippering a side ?

He was not tactically great but neither was Misbah but his longer stint at ODI captaincy would have meant no coming back of players likes of YK,Misbah and Asad in ODI LOI formats and youngsters like of Umar Amin,Harris,Akmal,Baber Azam, Maqsood would have got more fair chance and wouldn't have been constantly reminded of playing test match special knocks in ODIs.

Also we would have a captain who actually deserved his place in the side. Just Like Azhar Ali Misbah used to score but at a snail's pace. His runs never matter in the context of the game. Those were personal milestones. His Strike rate from 2011-2015 was in the 60s.

With Misbah we just backward like 7 years back. Now we are slowly recovering from the mentality and overall approach of what Misbah had. It took Eng's 444 pounding for most Pakistani fans to realize how far behind they were left compare to others.

 

[AFG_Brit]

The same media that afridi is talking about is putting misbah' s name there to create "news"! Everybody else has been saying that Pakistan is playing old fashion cricket and that is what afridi has said. I don't see anything wrong with what he has said.

 

[90MPH]

The same media that afridi is talking about is putting misbah' s name there to create "news"! Everybody else has been saying that Pakistan is playing old fashion cricket and that is what afridi has said. I don't see anything wrong with what he has said.

Nothing wrong there I agree as some of the Pak media is gutter.

However he shouldn't cry like a victim about giving 20 years service etc. His time is up and he should see the writing on the wall.

That's what I can't stand about our players - they always want more (money, sponsorship) and never know how to retire in a dignified way.

Afridi was not the first, will certainly not be the last.

 

[MRSN]

Aamir Sohail bang on but PP armchair experts will continue to hold Misbah solely responsible for ODI downfall and will ignore every other mitigating factor.

partially yes I mean PCB has a large share of blame to share.. appointing someone captain who is at the age of 37 and do not to belong to that particular format, how bad can you get?

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

These are the same people who made him the living legend on this planet called earth.

Wise ones wouldn't have been content with a few runs in 20 odd innings. So Lala jee you sure these people have not suited you?

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

Am I the only one who found nothing wrong with any of Afridi's statement?

The media report was stupid - repeated words, trying to sensationalize it for no reason. Our ODI team has been in decline since the time Misbah was the captain back in 2012 or whatever you call it. The tactics have been bad and they are continuing.

The second point about media making or breaking players is again so on point. You do good in one game and they make stupid promos and repeat that winning shot or wicket time and time again in replays and play funny music over it.

Let a player play a few matches and show his worth before hyping them to the moon only to drop them down from there at the first instance (I know there is no pull of Earth on a small mass body once you take it to the moon but still).

As much as I do not want Afridi to be in the team anymore, let's keep things in context.

 

[Rinnegan Sasuke]

He was not tactically great but neither was Misbah but his longer stint at ODI captaincy would have meant no coming back of players likes of YK,Misbah and Asad in ODI LOI formats and youngsters like of Umar Amin,Harris,Akmal,Baber Azam, Maqsood would have got more fair chance and wouldn't have been constantly reminded of playing test match special knocks in ODIs.

Also we would have a captain who actually deserved his place in the side. Just Like Azhar Ali Misbah used to score but at a snail's pace. His runs never matter in the context of the game. Those were personal milestones. His Strike rate from 2011-2015 was in the 60s.

With Misbah we just backward like 7 years back. Now we are slowly recovering from the mentality and overall approach of what Misbah had. It took Eng's 444 pounding for most Pakistani fans to realize how far behind they were left compare to others.

When the team would be 25/3 most of the times, and Misbah was at the crease, what else would you have him do for us ? You consider his 50's as useless, then i guess the barrage of 2's, 10's, and 20's that our batting displayed were scintillating knocks ? Fact of the matter is, Misbah was the only person who could bat, and managed to get us to totals considered competitive.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Afridi's biggest blunder was to resign from captaincy. Pakistan ODI team was shaping really well under his tenure but his resignation brought back Misbah and YK,Asad as players when they should have been sidelined for their Mohali knock.

Ur hate for Asad made u comment with closed eyes... Asad did very well being as the replacement of MOYO in the all important WC'11... And particularly in the mohali knock he was batting well after the loss of 2 wickets, the senior team man who supposedly has to feast against spinners, started eating deliveries and even playing maiden overs to Yuvraj, he built the pressure on the newbie asad who went on to cut past point or cover fielder when the ball is too close to the body and losing his wicket, after his wicket MYK eat some more deliveries eventually gifting his wicket to Yuvraj...

 

[pasha404]

Hope he is never selected again

 

[ask_analyse_act]

When the team would be 25/3 most of the times, and Misbah was at the crease, what else would you have him do for us ? You consider his 50's as useless, then i guess the barrage of 2's, 10's, and 20's that our batting displayed were scintillating knocks ? Fact of the matter is, Misbah was the only person who could bat, and managed to get us to totals considered competitive.

I dont take this argument and unacceptable to me, why would u let to happen to 25/3 and why not come at no.3 and bat at 25/1 rather then coming in late... People now will say misbah's technique is not suited for batting at no.3, but many a times he was there in the first 5 overs after losing 2-3 quick wickets...Misbah and UA were the only batsman then guarding the ship, the basics say bat u r best batsman at the top and let him face more deliveries, than coming in late and face fewer deliveries...MISBAH would have scored few centuries had he batted at no.3 if i was the coach I would even ask him to open the innings and bat through the 50 overs, because then all pak need to do is score 230-250 ajmal, hafeez, afridi the spin trio can win those matches... Misbah could make easily make 80 -100 runs at 60-70 strike rate as it was very much acceptable but he himself failed and failed to build a ODI unit despite being the captain for 4 years....

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Afridi's never been captaincy material, he doesn't have the tactical nous or maturity.

His success as captain came during the peak of our spin trio's careers - Afridi himself, Saeed Ajmal and Mohammad Hafeez.

As for his resignation, Afridi had it coming in 2011.

He was publicly criticising the board, coach and selectors despite being repeatedly told not to. Eventually PCB handed out show cause notice and threatened to withdraw Afridi's NOC for the T20 leagues and Afridi resigned after staging another one of his "conditional retirements" - is this the type of character who should be skippering a side ?

Of course not, it was the most tumultuous period when pak had ijaz butt at the helm of affairs... He was just a dramaqueen who cant run an organisation and clearly not a person to handle the big names like afridi, Moyo, myk, malik, akthar, razzaq.. who ever oppose him while talking he just ban them from cricket for a year.. when ECB chairman questioned he couldnt ban him but said england players are match fixing..

 

[Rinnegan Sasuke]

I dont take this argument and unacceptable to me, why would u let to happen to 25/3 and why not come at no.3 and bat at 25/1 rather then coming in late... People now will say misbah's technique is not suited for batting at no.3, but many a times he was there in the first 5 overs after losing 2-3 quick wickets...Misbah and UA were the only batsman then guarding the ship, the basics say bat u r best batsman at the top and let him face more deliveries, than coming in late and face fewer deliveries...MISBAH would have scored few centuries had he batted at no.3 if i was the coach I would even ask him to open the innings and bat through the 50 overs, because then all pak need to do is score 230-250 ajmal, hafeez, afridi the spin trio can win those matches... Misbah could make easily make 80 -100 runs at 60-70 strike rate as it was very much acceptable but he himself failed and failed to build a ODI unit despite being the captain for 4 years....

Then what was the point of having Shehzad, Hafeez, and Jamshed ?? And if Misbah also got out when coming in early, then what ? We all knew at that point in time that if Misbah goes, we're done for the match. Forget the centuries, the 230-250 we used to defend were due to Misbah sailing the ship. The ODI team was filled with below-average players.

 

[Square Drive]

Hope Inzi keeps him out but hard to have any hopes now from a man who just recalled Gul, then Tanvir in T20s, and then dropped Amad without him even getting a game.

 

[Suleiman]

Uhh, so yeah we want to give guys like this a farewell match?

Guys like him and Younis have such terrible personalities that in a farewell you can't help but have that nagging feeling of "good riddance".

Misbah deserves one for sure though, can't imagine him mouthing off like this. First guard of honor after a long time for any Pakistani for him.

 

[gunner]

This guy is only getting worse day by day typical egomaniac. About time someone told him off the door is shut for him. The reason this guy is getting hyper is because his "sonny ki chiriya" is gone and he will be losing is cricket sponsors. Now that our team is finding good youngsters, playing like unit and winning matches as well, here comes this guy to get some limelight seeing the writing on the wall. He tried his best to damage our cricket, always undermining the team to give prominence to himself, keeping old mediocre players like himself in the team so he can look like a "star" . he's been badly exposed for the fraud he is. Have some "ghairat" and retire.

 

[Suleiman]

Also Misbah being blamed for ODI downfall in 2012, is no different than Azhar being blamed today.

Both might not have been ODI greats, but the problem is that we are simply bad in ODIs, regardless of Misbah being the leader or Alexander the Great. Hard for some to understand.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Then what was the point of having Shehzad, Hafeez, and Jamshed ?? And if Misbah also got out when coming in early, then what ? We all knew at that point in time that if Misbah goes, we're done for the match. Forget the centuries, the 230-250 we used to defend were due to Misbah sailing the ship. The ODI team was filled with below-average players.

it took one series for mickey arthur to realize how terrible hafeez is... he is never there as a top order batsman..this is also another reason why misbah failed, to keep his captaincy he gave chances to hafeez and MYK again and again... finally he end up packing hafeez from the CWC'15 where he could have recovered in 2 weeks they had enough time...then why did u play him for so many years... hafeez failed as an opener, not dropped but gave the no.3 at asad/maqsood's expense which he shined but didnt when he needs to come in early...look who played at no.3 in CWC'15... Misbah himself is a limited player who lacks strike rotation but he was there clearly a misfit batting at no.5 in the interest of the game.. he should have come in early to arrest the slide...if Misbah goes, we're done for the match yes wherever he comes... but had he come in earlier would have added more runs and saved more wickets...

 

[msb314]

Afridi when asked about his fitness

"I can still easily handle 8-10 guys like you"

LOL

Guys - what does that even mean?

Does Afridi think fitness is about fighting 10 people at once? I doubt he can actually do that...

Maybe he meant like a race or drill?

 

[msb314]

Also Misbah being blamed for ODI downfall in 2012, is no different than Azhar being blamed today.

Both might not have been ODI greats, but the problem is that we are simply bad in ODIs, regardless of Misbah being the leader or Alexander the Great. Hard for some to understand.

We were not that bad in 2012. Our only loss was to SL jn the summer of 2012.

We actually had peaked in ODI's under Whatmore from 2012/13. Moin also did an ok job during the 2014 Asia Cup but Waqar everything spiraled downwards under Waqar.

 

[Rinnegan Sasuke]

it took one series for mickey arthur to realize how terrible hafeez is... he is never there as a top order batsman..this is also another reason why misbah failed, to keep his captaincy he gave chances to hafeez and MYK again and again... finally he end up packing hafeez from the CWC'15 where he could have recovered in 2 weeks they had enough time...then why did u play him for so many years... hafeez failed as an opener, not dropped but gave the no.3 at asad/maqsood's expense which he shined but didnt when he needs to come in early...look who played at no.3 in CWC'15... Misbah himself is a limited player who lacks strike rotation but he was there clearly a misfit batting at no.5 in the interest of the game.. he should have come in early to arrest the slide...if Misbah goes, we're done for the match yes wherever he comes... but had he come in earlier would have added more runs and saved more wickets...

One series in england not the flat tracks of Sharjah, you're forgetting the test captain is Misbah too. Yes the world cup, where we would've lost too zimbabwe too had it not been for Misbah and Wahab, the same world cup where he was out best batsman. Asad ? the guy who failed after 40 + chances ? Maqsood ? The complete hack ?? There weren't and still aren't any quality batsmen in our domestic setup, which is why we had Hafeez, his chucking was a bonus too.

Limited player, the same player had saved us from the complete embarrassment we're dealing with these days in LOI's, we were just as bad then. Maybe he'd have scored more run at the top, or gotten out an we'd have been bundled out for less than 200.

 

[The Last Of The Stars]

Hilarious reply by Afridi )

 

[TalhaSyed]

Afridi's international career is all but over & the quicker he accepts that the better it will be for everyone involved IMO.

Having said that - here our media is once again showing how pathetic they are. The likes of Nasser Hussain & Wasim Akram say that our ODI team has been stcuk in 90' and the media rushes to agree with them and praise their great insight. Meanwhile, Afridi says that whilst he was in the ODI team he felt the team was playing an out dated style of cricket & our pathetic, cancerous, useless, trashy media tries to twist that into some Bollywood rift between Misbah & Afridi.

Afridi: "Until the 2015 World Cup [which was the last time Arfridi was in the ODI team] and in the series before that we played negative cricket. In todays cricket you cannot get 14-15 runs per over in the last few overs"

Trashy News Channel's Interpretation: "Afridi blames Misbah for the downfall of Pakistan's ODI cricket team!!" *dramatic music + panning cameras like a ZEE TV drama*

I don't know if I should laugh and mock these masala news channels, or if I should be sad and disappointed that this is the state of the 'main stream media' in our country.

 

[Rinnegan Sasuke]

Also Misbah being blamed for ODI downfall in 2012, is no different than Azhar being blamed today.

Both might not have been ODI greats, but the problem is that we are simply bad in ODIs, regardless of Misbah being the leader or Alexander the Great. Hard for some to understand.

Thank you !! This is what people don't get, we're bad because our domestic setup is crap, and the players participating and being brought up are also crap. The word "talent" is currently only a myth, we need to come to terms with that, because the first step of fixing a problem is admitting there is one. Stop waiting for a 17 year old wonder boy from some rural village to come and light the world on fire because sadly, this isn't an 80's sports movie.

 

[Uzair Gooner]

Guys - what does that even mean?

Does Afridi think fitness is about fighting 10 people at once? I doubt he can actually do that...

Maybe he meant like a race or drill?

think Its the same reporter whom he was involved in "Ghatya Sawal" incident!
if you watch the video, you will realize the context of Afridi's answer

 

[kingusama92]

I don't mind Afridi playing for us in T20's, he's a good T20 cricketer but a horrible captain as of late who's captaincy skills have regressed from the 2011 WC where he was sensational.

In his last year, he had a batting average of 14 and bowling average of 34.

On top of this, for the first time his fitness started falling apart and his fielding lessened in quality.

He's not a good T20 cricketer at this point. Just a big name.

 

[ExplicitAI]

In his last year, he had a batting average of 14 and bowling average of 34.

On top of this, for the first time his fitness started falling apart and his fielding lessened in quality.

He's not a good T20 cricketer at this point. Just a big name.

To be honest I think he's still got a bit of juice left in him. Remember he never used to come to practice sessions as T20 captain and didn't care about anything; he just came to play any T20 game regardless of the result and went back home. Depends on how committed he is this time if he's gonna take it seriously.

 

[Barragan]

In his last year, he had a batting average of 14 and bowling average of 34.

On top of this, for the first time his fitness started falling apart and his fielding lessened in quality.

He's not a good T20 cricketer at this point. Just a big name.

Interestingly enough, you left out one of the key aspects in this format, which is economy rate and he has an economy of 7.06 and that is really good.

Fair enough, if you don't pick up wickets in this format, but make sure you are economical and that is what he has done.

As for batting, he has always been hit and miss.

Although, disappointed he didn't play in this current tournament and show the selectors he still has it in him.

 

[Zaz]

Pakistan doesn't owe him anything, the guys a fraud and the sooner he is told where to go the better

Which other teams picks a ego centric 40 year old just for t20s who doesn't even play domestic cricket or bother to put any effort into maintaining his fitness or practise

 

[Im Suds]

Am I the only one who found nothing wrong with any of Afridi's statement?

The media report was stupid - repeated words, trying to sensationalize it for no reason. Our ODI team has been in decline since the time Misbah was the captain back in 2012 or whatever you call it. The tactics have been bad and they are continuing.

The second point about media making or breaking players is again so on point. You do good in one game and they make stupid promos and repeat that winning shot or wicket time and time again in replays and play funny music over it.

Let a player play a few matches and show his worth before hyping them to the moon only to drop them down from there at the first instance (I know there is no pull of Earth on a small mass body once you take it to the moon but still).

As much as I do not want Afridi to be in the team anymore, let's keep things in context.

"The tactics have been bad and are continuing "- what was wrong with our last ODI game?
Tactics seemed pretty spot on to me

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

"The tactics have been bad and are continuing "- what was wrong with our last ODI game?
Tactics seemed pretty spot on to me

Since you asked, specifically about the tactics, here is what I found wrong. Maybe some others can add more

1. Only one power hitter in the from of Sharjeel (interestingly, this was his come back series in ODI's)

2. Playing aged bowlers and batters who are at the end of their career yet consistently get a chance in.

3. No solid sixth bowling option. If a main bowler gets hit, no cover of any sort. (Malik and Azhar are not options)

4. I like Azhar as a person, a player, and a captain so I won't single him out but many people will tell you what's wrong with him.

 

[PakLFC]

Does this guy not have a life outside Cricket? We were never gonna beat a well oiled one day side like England in that format off the game. It was no ones fault, the better side rightfully won.

 

[msb314]

I dont take this argument and unacceptable to me, why would u let to happen to 25/3 and why not come at no.3 and bat at 25/1 rather then coming in late... People now will say misbah's technique is not suited for batting at no.3, but many a times he was there in the first 5 overs after losing 2-3 quick wickets...Misbah and UA were the only batsman then guarding the ship, the basics say bat u r best batsman at the top and let him face more deliveries, than coming in late and face fewer deliveries...MISBAH would have scored few centuries had he batted at no.3 if i was the coach I would even ask him to open the innings and bat through the 50 overs, because then all pak need to do is score 230-250 ajmal, hafeez, afridi the spin trio can win those matches... Misbah could make easily make 80 -100 runs at 60-70 strike rate as it was very much acceptable but he himself failed and failed to build a ODI unit despite being the captain for 4 years....

This - great point!

I have actually questioned this as well for a very long time too

 

[iHammad]

I used to be a die hard fan of this guy. Now, I hate him.

 

[Bilal7]

Is he missing the attention? Why not join the movies?

 

[Bilal7]

This - great point!

I have actually questioned this as well for a very long time too

In our culture, the best batsman bats at #4 or #5. That has always been the case and why would Misbah change that?

 

[Belawal2014]

I used to be a die hard fan of this guy. Now, I hate him.

We were all young and stupid at some point. Don't be too hard on yourself.

 

[Suleiman]

In our culture, the best batsman bats at #4 or #5. That has always been the case and why would Misbah change that?

"our culture" doesn't mean anything here. the international standard is that the best batsman comes at 3. "our culture" these days also includes playing an incredible amount of dot balls and looking to slog legside when nothing goes your way, doesn't mean it's right.

Ofc there's some things in Pak cricket tradition that we should maintain, but just because we've always done it, doesn't mean it's right. That's how we've been left in the dust by the rest of the teams in ODIs.

 

[The_KING]

Although, disappointed he didn't play in this current tournament and show the selectors he still has it in him.

He never had it in him to begin with. Please forget about Afridi the poor player. It's time to move on.

 

[Caved12]

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Handling 10 guys have nothing to do with fitness when it comes to cricket. Afridi has completely lost it. Please keep this joker away from Pakistan cricket team!

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Thank you !! This is what people don't get, we're bad because our domestic setup is crap, and the players participating and being brought up are also crap. The word "talent" is currently only a myth, we need to come to terms with that, because the first step of fixing a problem is admitting there is one. Stop waiting for a 17 year old wonder boy from some rural village to come and light the world on fire because sadly, this isn't an 80's sports movie.

with the same dometic craps pakistan managed to beat england in england in tests and T20s why not in the ODIs...

 

[ask_analyse_act]

One series in england not the flat tracks of Sharjah, you're forgetting the test captain is Misbah too. Yes the world cup, where we would've lost too zimbabwe too had it not been for Misbah and Wahab, the same world cup where he was out best batsman. Asad ? the guy who failed after 40 + chances ? Maqsood ? The complete hack ?? There weren't and still aren't any quality batsmen in our domestic setup, which is why we had Hafeez, his chucking was a bonus too.

Limited player, the same player had saved us from the complete embarrassment we're dealing with these days in LOI's, we were just as bad then. Maybe he'd have scored more run at the top, or gotten out an we'd have been bundled out for less than 200.

Hafeez was there with his chucking but not with his batting, he had terrible tours outside UAE and even in UAE sometimes...Hafeez should have been batting at no.6 or 7 as a bowling allrounder but MISBAH gave him the cushion to be in top 3 despite the failures at the cost of pushing young players down and axing them,,, because at that time pak ODI wasnt looking good + MISBAH's slow batting which is what got him rid off his T20 captaincy where he failed to win despite being there till end of last over against dernbach who is not even a bowler now.. hafeez was there in line for ODI captaincy as a utility player who also doing well as captain in T20s.. Fear of losing captaincy and losing the match restricted MISBAH to replace them with youngsters and give time for them to settle in the team, which is eventually he did in his last series giving a leeway to afridi as he announced the retirement like MISBAH, moreover not a better replacement he had in yasir shah.... but that was too late they should have given the chance to form the nucleus atleast a year in advance..

 

[ask_analyse_act]

This - great point!

I have actually questioned this as well for a very long time too

He let the failures to fail ahead of him and then let him do the rescue... He was the captain and the best batsman and shouldnt be batting at no.5... the style of play that he played was suited after 25/3 cant afford to lose any more but he can play better when he comes at 25/1.. I do feel he should have put him and UA at no.3 and 4 respy, pushing the tailender hafeez to go at the old ball at no.5 or 6...the ego of hafeez and MISBAH's insecured place due to his age and team losing most of the time stopped him to do that..

 

[#GreenRoars]

There was nothing wrong with any of his statements tbf, he wasnt taking any dig at Misbah.

Regarding selection, he should sit out and we should find some other young guns.

 

[Tera Gawaandi]

How many push-ups can you do Afridi?

 

[Rinnegan Sasuke]

with the same dometic craps pakistan managed to beat england in england in tests and T20s why not in the ODIs...

Because there is a massive difference in test match cricket and LOI's, and we are not producing batsmen with the ability to play modern aggressive cricket, which means quick runs and not slogs. And lets not kid ourselves, look at the bowling attack during the 50 over matches and the one t20

 

[Rinnegan Sasuke]

He let the failures to fail ahead of him and then let him do the rescue... He was the captain and the best batsman and shouldnt be batting at no.5... the style of play that he played was suited after 25/3 cant afford to lose any more but he can play better when he comes at 25/1.. I do feel he should have put him and UA at no.3 and 4 respy, pushing the tailender hafeez to go at the old ball at no.5 or 6...the ego of hafeez and MISBAH's insecured place due to his age and team losing most of the time stopped him to do that..

Hafeez was one of our best LOI bats in the UAE, on flat tracks he can come up with beast scores, that is why he was there.What are you talking about? Misbah's captaincy was never in danger, and let's not bring Umar Akmal into this considering he was a complete nothing batsman after his 2013 WI tour. Besides Hafeez, we did not have anyone in the rankings to take his place, this is where our crap domestics come into play. The only thing Misbah did was hide our actual standing as team till he was there, we're crap now, we were crap then too. You don't blame one person was the deficiency for the other 10. We need to improve the grassroot level of this game in the country, that is the only way we'll move forward.

 

[Asif321]

after world cup 2015 during Bangladesh tour he was the one sitting in PTV Studio saying it was because of Misbah we managed to score some runs before now misbah is gone who will score runs for us?

 

[msb314]

In our culture, the best batsman bats at #4 or #5. That has always been the case and why would Misbah change that?

Hmm MoYo and Inzy batted at 3 in one point in their career as did Hafeez when he was arguably our best batsman.

In MIsbah's case - if we did find oursevles having lost 2/3 wickets within the first 5 overs - he could have prevented those collapses had we batted at 3. Especially since he was our in-form batsman back in 2013.

Think about it - I would rather have had him come in at 3 and steady the innings with his tuk tuk so that we would still have Umar Akmal, Maqsood, Afridi to accelerate later on in the innings and potentially have wickets in hand rather than him come in at 5 and consolidate the innings to the point where our final total was never going to be larger then 230 due to the poor starts we continuously used to make.

 

[msb314]

He let the failures to fail ahead of him and then let him do the rescue... He was the captain and the best batsman and shouldnt be batting at no.5... the style of play that he played was suited after 25/3 cant afford to lose any more but he can play better when he comes at 25/1.. I do feel he should have put him and UA at no.3 and 4 respy, pushing the tailender hafeez to go at the old ball at no.5 or 6...the ego of hafeez and MISBAH's insecured place due to his age and team losing most of the time stopped him to do that..

Yes true.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Hafeez was one of our best LOI bats in the UAE, on flat tracks he can come up with beast scores, that is why he was there.

What are you talking about? Misbah's captaincy was never in danger, and let's not bring Umar Akmal into this considering he was a complete nothing batsman after his 2013 WI tour. Besides Hafeez, we did not have anyone in the rankings to take his place, this is where our crap domestics come into play. The only thing Misbah did was hide our actual standing as team till he was there, we're crap now, we were crap then too. You don't blame one person was the deficiency for the other 10. We need to improve the grassroot level of this game in the country, that is the only way we'll move forward.

Best bat when he was moved to no.3 .. When talking about hafeez three things to note are.. he was terrible as an opener very weak against any moving ball even at mathews pace... he had success at no.3 against SC bowling attacks very early into the role of no.3 but still bad when he was bowling too, when he was banned and knowing that only batting can get him a place in the squad he started perfoming well until then he was a little above afridi in batting and little below afridi in bowling...fine lets not bring in UA... yes grassroots level is bad but it is a decade old problem, it didnt suddenly become that crap... with the same grassroot level pak still was decent enough in the ODIs and not too bad like this... Misbah failed in LOIs is outright, he beat the english side 3-0 in tests but england with a new ODI captain in cook whitewashed pak 4-0 away series straight after the tests... if misbah didnt have that 3-0 instead had 2-1 he would have lost his ODI captaincy there and then itself....Misbah had more terrible displays in the ODIs but he was persisted with the captaincy as there is no one eligible to take it over from him... Misbah's approach to the batting and captaincy is waiting game which suits for tests but failed in LOIs as there is not enough time left..

 

[Rinnegan Sasuke]

Best bat when he was moved to no.3 .. When talking about hafeez three things to note are.. he was terrible as an opener very weak against any moving ball even at mathews pace... he had success at no.3 against SC bowling attacks very early into the role of no.3 but still bad when he was bowling too, when he was banned and knowing that only batting can get him a place in the squad he started perfoming well until then he was a little above afridi in batting and little below afridi in bowling...fine lets not bring in UA... yes grassroots level is bad but it is a decade old problem, it didnt suddenly become that crap... with the same grassroot level pak still was decent enough in the ODIs and not too bad like this... Misbah failed in LOIs is outright, he beat the english side 3-0 in tests but england with a new ODI captain in cook whitewashed pak 4-0 away series straight after the tests... if misbah didnt have that 3-0 instead had 2-1 he would have lost his ODI captaincy there and then itself....Misbah had more terrible displays in the ODIs but he was persisted with the captaincy as there is no one eligible to take it over from him... Misbah's approach to the batting and captaincy is waiting game which suits for tests but failed in LOIs as there is not enough time left..

The point still stands that if there had been a replacement for Hafeez, he would have been replaced, unfortunately our LOI side did not boast such players, and probably still don't.

No, Misbah lead the team to a 3-0 whitewash because the TEAM was capable of beating them, similarly, our 50 over team wasn't, and Misbah did what he could, and brought us respectable scores. I'm sorry brother, I just can't agree with placing the blame one one individual when there were 10 other people just waiting for their paychecks. When the team had the players, we had good series, such as the south africa tour, but that was only a small purple patch. Problems are gradual, yes we weren't as bad as before, but if the current system continues, in a few years you and I will be arguing about how we weren't this bad while the team gets demolished by Holland.

 

[Bilal7]

Hmm MoYo and Inzy batted at 3 in one point in their career as did Hafeez when he was arguably our best batsman.

In MIsbah's case - if we did find oursevles having lost 2/3 wickets within the first 5 overs - he could have prevented those collapses had we batted at 3. Especially since he was our in-form batsman back in 2013.

Think about it - I would rather have had him come in at 3 and steady the innings with his tuk tuk so that we would still have Umar Akmal, Maqsood, Afridi to accelerate later on in the innings and potentially have wickets in hand rather than him come in at 5 and consolidate the innings to the point where our final total was never going to be larger then 230 due to the poor starts we continuously used to make.

Yousuf and Inzi were not the best in the team when they were batting at #3. Hafeez, like Anwar, was forced to bat up the order since both were openers.

It could have worked or we could have lost Misbah early and then suffered a collapse, without anyone to stop it. Misbah did well for himself in LOIs.

 

[msb314]

Yousuf and Inzi were not the best in the team when they were batting at #3. Hafeez, like Anwar, was forced to bat up the order since both were openers.

It could have worked or we could have lost Misbah early and then suffered a collapse, without anyone to stop it. Misbah did well for himself in LOIs.

It would still have been more optimal - Misbah could still get out early in his innings when batting at 5 e.g. vs WI in the 2015 WC when we were reduced to 25/5/

Would you rather watch Misbah come in at 25/3 and lose him early to become 30/4.

Or watch him come at 25/1 and lose him early to become 25/2?

Atleast when he came in at no. 3 and got stuck in - he could stabilize the innings an provide us with a foundation upon which Akmal, Maqsood, Afridi could then accelerate.

Also, keep in mind, that Misbah was also a big hitter of the ball. Had he come in at 3 - he could have accelerated earlier knowing that we still had Haris Sohail, Sarfraz, Maqsood, Akmal and Afridi to come.

Now - I don't know if Misbah refrained from doing that due to being in his comfort zone at 5 and not facing the new ball or if it was to give more exposure to Haris Sohail and Hafeez but him batting at 3 would have been better IMO.

Regarding your point about culture - that just has to change and should not be a barrier for progress. We are already light years behind other teams in ODI's and have to learn to play at 5-6 RPO from the get-go when batting first or keeping up with the asking rate throughout the innings when chasing. It is shift in mindset that has to come from management.

 

[pakpukhtun]

Hahahahh classic pathan reply.....hopefully lala is back!

 

[LowKiiSavage]

LOL. Hilarious reply. The journo got owned.