[VIDEO] Michelle Obama - a future president in the making?

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Michelle Obama eviscerated Donald Trump during her keynote speech at the opening night of the virtual Democratic convention, accusing him of being the “wrong president for our country” and “clearly in over his head”.

In her most political address and her most pointed criticism of Trump to date, the former first lady called on Americans to “vote for Joe Biden like our lives depend on it” in the November election.

“Let me be as honest and clear as I possibly can. Donald Trump is the wrong president for our country,” she said.


“He has had more than enough time to prove that he can do the job, but he is clearly in over his head. He cannot meet this moment. He simply cannot be who we need him to be for us. It is what it is.”

The phrase echoed Trump’s own words earlier this month, who, when asked about the United States’ staggering death toll from coronavirus, responded: “is what it is.”

Liberals, progressives, moderates and some Republicans came together at the virtual event on Monday night to warn of the threats four more years of a Trump administration pose, and promote visions for a better future.

In her address, Michelle Obama specifically referenced her words at the 2016 convention, in which she told Democrats: “When they go low, we go high.” Obama said tonight, “Going high is the only thing that works.”

She then added: “But let’s be clear: going high does not mean putting on a smile and saying nice things when confronted by viciousness and cruelty. Going high means taking the harder path. It means scraping and clawing our way to that mountain top.”

Nearly four years after leaving the White House, the former first lady remains hugely popular figure within the party, and among Black women in particular, as well as with some of those outside the party.

In recent years, she published a best-selling memoir called Becoming, traveled the country on a book tour that was later made into a documentary, helped found a new voting rights organization, and recently launched a podcast.

“You know I hate politics,” she said in her speech, repeating a truism that has always disappointed her most ardent supporters, some of whom attempted to draft her into the 2020 primary race.

But it appeared to make her an even more powerful character witness, as she sharply contrasted Joe Biden’s personality record with Trump’s, calling the former vice-president, who served under her husband president Barack Obama, a “profoundly decent man” who will “tell the truth and trust science”.

“He knows what it takes to rescue an economy, beat back a pandemic and lead our country,” she said.

Trump succeeded Barack Obama in 2017 and promptly set out to undo many of Obama’s achievements on health care, the environment and foreign policy, among others. Trump also routinely criticizes Obama’s job performance.

Biden’s sense of empathy was also a key focus of Michelle Obama’s speech. Speaking of the national reckoning on racism sparked by the police killing of George Floyd in May, she said: “whenever we look to this White House for some leadership or consolation or any semblance of steadiness, what we get instead is chaos, division, and a total and utter lack of empathy”.

Tragedy has followed Biden, from the deaths of his first wife and baby daughter after he was elected to the Senate in 1972, to the death of his son Beau from brain cancer in 2015.

“His life is a testament to getting back up, and he is going to channel that same grit and passion to pick us all up, to help us heal and guide us forward,” she said of Biden.

A speech like that would typically be met with thunderous applause. But this year, praise was recorded online.

Biden’s running mate Kamala Harris praised Obama for “speaking truth to power” while Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez called her remarks “incredibly powerful” and “deeply moving.”

“Because she is not a politician and doesn’t think or speak like one, [MENTION=146396]michele[/MENTION]Obama is such a powerful communicator,” tweeted David Axelrod, political consultant and former advisor to Barack Obama. “As she is showing again here, she speaks with a moral authority few in public life can summon.”

Michelle Obama, who leads an effort to help register people to vote, also spoke about the importance of voting in the 3 November election, which will take place amid a coronavirus pandemic that has killed more than 170,000 Americans and infected more than 5 million in the US. In the video, she wore a gold chain necklace that said “VOTE.”

Her remarks came as Democrats in Washington have also railed against recent cuts to the US Postal Service, which is headed by a Trump ally and Republican donor. The changes are delaying mail deliveries around the country, raising concerns about whether mail-in ballots will be sent out and returned on time ahead of the election.

Trump, who lags Biden in some national and state polls, has denounced efforts by some states to expand voting-by-mail options and spread misinformation to undermine the practice, which is seeing huge demand due to the coronavirus pandemic.

Due the coronavirus, Michelle Obama’s remarks were recorded before Biden’s announcement last Tuesday that he had chosen Harris as his running mate.

But the former first lady wrote lengthy posts on her Facebook and Instagram accounts praising Harris, a Black woman born to Jamaican and Indian parents, after she joined the Democratic ticket.

Monday’s speech was the fourth Democratic convention address by Michelle Obama, who first introduced herself to the nation during her husband’s groundbreaking campaign. She spoke again in 2012 to urge voters to give him a second term.

Michelle Obama returned to the convention stage in 2016, backing former first lady Hillary Clinton over Trump, who had spent years pushing the lie that Barack Obama was not born in the US and was ineligible for the presidency.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/17/michelle-obama-democratic-convention-joe-biden
 
She'd lose for the same reason Hillary Clinton lost.

Biden is not the answer, but nor are other has-beens like the Clintons and Obamas.

I like the sound of AOC - but I gather she's too young (1-year younger than the cut-off) to contest for the position.
 
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She probably spent 2 months preparing for this speech. Where is here husband's virtual endorsement?

This stunt is designed purly to attract the black and female vote. Once again playing into Trump's hands.

Trump is spot on, if Obama didn't mess up, Trump wouldn't be President.

Oh remember, Michelle is not mixed race unlike her husband. Perception is everything.
 
Democratic convention: Michelle Obama blasts Trump

Michelle Obama has launched a stinging attack on US President Donald Trump as Democrats prepared to crown Joe Biden as their White House challenger.

"Donald Trump is the wrong president for our country," said the former US first lady in an emotional recorded message to the Democratic convention.

Disaffected members of Mr Trump's Republican party also piled in on him at the Democratic party conference.

The election takes place on Tuesday 3 November.

Because of the coronavirus outbreak, Democrats scrapped plans for a crowded party extravaganza with balloon drops and all the other political razzmatazz in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

But it is unclear whether the largely virtual schedule of pre-recorded speeches with no live audience can generate the same level of enthusiasm as pre-pandemic gatherings of the party faithful.

Republicans will face the same challenge as they make their case for four more years in the White House at a drastically scaled-down convention next week.

What did Michelle Obama say?

Mrs Obama, who recorded her keynote address before Mr Biden announced his running mate, Senator Kamala Harris, six days ago, launched a blistering attack on Mr Trump.

"You simply cannot fake your way through this job," she said in remarks that closed the first night of the convention on Monday.

The headline speaker added: "Our economy is in shambles because of a virus that this president downplayed for too long."

"Stating the simple fact that a black life matters is still met with derision from the nation's highest office," Mrs Obama continued.

"Because whenever we look to this White House for some leadership, or consolation or any semblance of steadiness, what we get instead is chaos, division and a total and utter lack of empathy."

She said the last four years had been difficult to explain to America's children.

"They see our leaders labelling fellow citizens enemies of the state, while emboldening torch-bearing white supremacists.

"They watch in horror as children are torn from their families and thrown into cages, and pepper spray and rubber bullets are used on peaceful protests for a photo op."

Mrs Obama continued: "Donald Trump is the wrong president for our country. He has had more than enough time to prove that he can do the job, but he is clearly in over his head.

"He simply cannot be who we need him to be for us. It is what it is."

She described Mr Biden as a "profoundly decent man", touting the Democratic White House candidate's experience as vice-president under her husband, President Barack Obama.

"We have got to vote for Joe Biden like our lives depend on it," she said, wearing a necklace that said "Vote".
Read more: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-53815566
 
She'd lose for the same reason Hillary Clinton lost.

Biden is not the answer, but nor are other has-beens like the Clintons and Obamas.

I like the sound of AOC - but I gather she's too young (1-year younger than the cut-off) to contest for the position.

AOC lol bro what? Do you want China to wipe the floor with America?
 
She's a brilliant speaker - degrees from Harvard and Princeton, along with a world-class speech writing staff doesn't hurt. But outside of a couple of speeches (at the 2016 convention and now at the 2020 convention), there has been no indication that she is interested in politics, let alone running for president. Wanting her to run is mostly aspiration from Obama fans and left-leaning Americans.

And if Michelle Obama did every run - the level of decisiveness and bitterness would reach a level not seen in American politics in 100+ years.
 
She probably spent 2 months preparing for this speech. Where is here husband's virtual endorsement?

This stunt is designed purly to attract the black and female vote. Once again playing into Trump's hands.

Trump is spot on, if Obama didn't mess up, Trump wouldn't be President.

Oh remember, Michelle is not mixed race unlike her husband. Perception is everything.

Well, duh. The whole point of conventions is to pump us the base, get people excited to vote - look at past conventions (DNC or RNC) - it's literally showmanship. Michelle Obama's target demo is black and female voters, the speech was well targeted and well delivered. Did you expect something different?

And conventions are week long events, I believe Barack Obama is speaking later in the week.
 
AOC lol bro what? Do you want China to wipe the floor with America?

Why what's happening now?

We made fun of our ghaas-phoos PM banning TikTok - they can't even do that.
 
She never wanted Barrack to run and has said she wouldn’t run herself so as things stand I doubt she’ll be running.
 
By the way, she’s definitely the smarter one out of the two
 
Well, duh. The whole point of conventions is to pump us the base, get people excited to vote - look at past conventions (DNC or RNC) - it's literally showmanship. Michelle Obama's target demo is black and female voters, the speech was well targeted and well delivered. Did you expect something different?

And conventions are week long events, I believe Barack Obama is speaking later in the week.

Look at past general elections in the US, all women lost.

Pump up the volume more like.
 
Look at past general elections in the US, all women lost.

Pump up the volume more like.

She just needs to win the swing state votes, Cambridge Analytica targeted the persuadable in the swing states to win for Trump.. Liberals are getting themselves whooped because Conservatives around the world have used the tech and data better than Liberals.

Current Teens are alt-left so many of em, if somehow they manage to bring them in 2028(or 2024 :p) to vote you can imagine how it will work...Obamas have become royalty among Liberal Americans.. and teenage girls are in "love" with her.. its a carefully created image..
 
She probably spent 2 months preparing for this speech.

Actually her part in the speech is minor. Millions are spent by the Obamas hiring market research professionals and speechwriters to fine tune their speeches for maximum impact, which is how to exploit identity politics for their political gain.
 
Actually her part in the speech is minor. Millions are spent by the Obamas hiring market research professionals and speechwriters to fine tune their speeches for maximum impact, which is how to exploit identity politics for their political gain.

Like any politician?
 
You think Trump consults market research professionals and speechwriters before he tweets? :))

No but they do use firms like Cambridge Analytica to target their voters.. Trump wouldn't be remembered like Reagan or even Bush Snr.. Trump would probably go down like Mugabe..
 
No but they do use firms like Cambridge Analytica to target their voters.

Totally different issue. Both parties have very large digital operations. Clinton spent over a billion dollars, probably twice as much as Trump and still lost.

Here we are talking about the authenticity of speeches like the one given by M Obama.

Trump wouldn't be remembered like Reagan or even Bush Snr.. Trump would probably go down like Mugabe..

That is just your opinion. Bush started two wars (Iraq and Afghanistan), Obama was part of the group that started four wars (Syria, Ukraine, Libya and Yemen). Over 1 million civilians and 150,000 children have died in these wars. Trump has started exactly zero wars.

Obama tried his hardest to pass the free trade agreement Trans Pacific Pact that would crushed the American working class even more.

Obama increased secret surveillance of American citizens as revealed by Snowden.

The list goes on.

Mugabe? Trump or Obama? :))
 
Totally different issue. Both parties have very large digital operations. Clinton spent over a billion dollars, probably twice as much as Trump and still lost.

Here we are talking about the authenticity of speeches like the one given by M Obama.



That is just your opinion. Bush started two wars (Iraq and Afghanistan), Obama was part of the group that started four wars (Syria, Ukraine, Libya and Yemen). Over 1 million civilians and 150,000 children have died in these wars. Trump has started exactly zero wars.

Obama tried his hardest to pass the free trade agreement Trans Pacific Pact that would crushed the American working class even more.

Obama increased secret surveillance of American citizens as revealed by Snowden.

The list goes on.

Mugabe? Trump or Obama? :))

Bush Snr is not same as Bush Jnr.. Indian Americans supporting Trump doesn't surprise me as much..

Also where did I say anything about Obama?Irrespective, I'm sure taking off Nokia,Blackberry and making American tech to have record profits will not have anything to do with Obama but Silicon Valley..

At the rate Trump is going lets see how long relations with EU,Canada last.
 
Bush Snr is not same as Bush Jnr.. Indian Americans supporting Trump doesn't surprise me as much..

Also where did I say anything about Obama?Irrespective, I'm sure taking off Nokia,Blackberry and making American tech to have record profits will not have anything to do with Obama but Silicon Valley..

At the rate Trump is going lets see how long relations with EU,Canada last.

Trump doesn't exist in a vacuum. He should be compared those who came before him and after him. Trump is a serious interruption if the American Establishment's Perpetual War fuelled by the Neoconservatives who he ejected from the government. He is a great improvement over what came before him. To compare him to Mugabe is beyond absurd.

I wonder if the public would have been so blase about the 150,000 children dead if they did not happen to be foreign and Muslim.

The US can have a mutually beneficial relationship with EU and Canada. Their mooching off the US taxpayers by getting the US to pay for their defense needs to stop. Seriously, Europe is going to continue following US leadership as it has done for the past 80 years. They are just going to learn to be better partners and contribute their fair share.
 
Trump doesn't exist in a vacuum. He should be compared those who came before him and after him. Trump is a serious interruption if the American Establishment's Perpetual War fuelled by the Neoconservatives who he ejected from the government. He is a great improvement over what came before him. To compare him to Mugabe is beyond absurd.

I wonder if the public would have been so blase about the 150,000 children dead if they did not happen to be foreign and Muslim.

The US can have a mutually beneficial relationship with EU and Canada. Their mooching off the US taxpayers by getting the US to pay for their defense needs to stop. Seriously, Europe is going to continue following US leadership as it has done for the past 80 years. They are just going to learn to be better partners and contribute their fair share.

Lol You think Canada has a mutually beneficial relationship with USA? Literally all corporations of America jump on in Canada and destroy it or buy it off not to forget how they make Canada listen to all its whims and wars.

EU was smarter but because England is just a tool of USA it never stood a chance...lets see how better the partners are with Trump at helm.

Guess you will praise Trump for his marvelous handling of Covid.
 
Lol You think Canada has a mutually beneficial relationship with USA? Literally all corporations of America jump on in Canada and destroy it or buy it off not to forget how they make Canada listen to all its whims and wars.

EU was smarter but because England is just a tool of USA it never stood a chance...lets see how better the partners are with Trump at helm.

Guess you will praise Trump for his marvelous handling of Covid.

You are just deflecting and not answering my points.
 
Totally different issue. Both parties have very large digital operations. Clinton spent over a billion dollars, probably twice as much as Trump and still lost.

Here we are talking about the authenticity of speeches like the one given by M Obama.



That is just your opinion. Bush started two wars (Iraq and Afghanistan), Obama was part of the group that started four wars (Syria, Ukraine, Libya and Yemen). Over 1 million civilians and 150,000 children have died in these wars. Trump has started exactly zero wars.

Obama tried his hardest to pass the free trade agreement Trans Pacific Pact that would crushed the American working class even more.

Obama increased secret surveillance of American citizens as revealed by Snowden.

The list goes on.

Mugabe? Trump or Obama? :))

Re the wars, don’t peddle fake news like Trump and come back with a proper post explaining exactly which war Obama started and reasons for it... background too please.

Otherwise stop your nonsense
 
Re the wars, don’t peddle fake news like Trump and come back with a proper post explaining exactly which war Obama started and reasons for it... background too please.

Otherwise stop your nonsense

For all the hype and hoopla, Obama the Nobel Peace Prize Winner couldn't even live up to his promise of ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. He authorized the aerial invasion of Libya to overthrow Gadaffi through NATO, and started the ongoing mess in Syria.

Couldn't even close the prison in Guantanamo Bay.

Whereas Trump tried to climb all the way up the conflict ladder and set up a talking relationship with Kim Jong Un of all people - Obama with his toffee accent compares abysmally.
 
You are just deflecting and not answering my points.

Mate you gave all those points when I just pointed out every politician does Mrs.Obama is doing-being a politician, Fox news readers will be proud of you to somehow make Trump seem genuine super American middle class loving leader who is beyond politics.

Trump's legacy will be like Mugabe's imo also didn't say anything about Mr.Obama and Bush jnr whom those points again are yours..
 
Re the wars, don’t peddle fake news like Trump and come back with a proper post explaining exactly which war Obama started and reasons for it... background too please.

Otherwise stop your nonsense

Dude, I have better things to do with my time than say things on the internet that cannot be sourced.

1) Syrian War, Operation Timber Sycamore.
"Timber Sycamore was a classified weapons supply and training program run by the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and supported by some Arab intelligence services, such as the security service in Saudi Arabia. Launched in 2012 or 2013, it supplied money, weaponry and training to rebel forces fighting Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in the Syrian Civil War."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timber_Sycamore

2) Ukraine
"Rarely has the sheer arrogance and manipulative game-playing of the United States in foreign policy been more clearly highlighted than in the recent episode involving a phone call between Victoria Nuland and Geoffrey R. Pyatt, the US ambassador to Ukraine."

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/not-so-secret-ukraine-phone-call/

3) Libya
"Before the revolution, Libya was a secure, prospering, secular Islamic country and a critical ally providing intelligence on terrorist activity post–September 11, 2001. Qaddafi was no longer a threat to the United States. Yet Secretary of State Hillary Clinton strongly advocated and succeeded in convincing the administration to support the Libyan rebels with a no-fly zone, intended to prevent a possible humanitarian disaster that turned quickly into all-out war.

Within weeks of the revolution there were two valid cease-fire opportunities, one presented to the Department of Defense and Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS), and a second opportunity presented to U.S. Africa Command for direct military commander negotiations to effect Gaddafi’s abdication, in which I was personally involved. Both opportunities were rejected and shut down by Secretary Clinton."

https://nationalinterest.org/feature/hillarys-huge-libya-disaster-16600

4) Yemen
"Since 2015, the United States has provided intelligence, military advice, and logistical support to the Saudi Arabia–led military intervention in Yemen."

https://www.csis.org/analysis/us-support-saudi-military-operations-yemen

You seem to be the kind of person who uncritically swallows whatever mainstream media shoves down his throat, like Obama promoting peace. Read the above and get educated. No replies unless I see something intelligent.
 
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She just needs to win the swing state votes, Cambridge Analytica targeted the persuadable in the swing states to win for Trump.. Liberals are getting themselves whooped because Conservatives around the world have used the tech and data better than Liberals.

Current Teens are alt-left so many of em, if somehow they manage to bring them in 2028(or 2024 :p) to vote you can imagine how it will work...Obamas have become royalty among Liberal Americans.. and teenage girls are in "love" with her.. its a carefully created image..

I thought the generation Z was going more towards Alt-Right?
 
For all the hype and hoopla, Obama the Nobel Peace Prize Winner couldn't even live up to his promise of ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. He authorized the aerial invasion of Libya to overthrow Gadaffi through NATO, and started the ongoing mess in Syria.

Couldn't even close the prison in Guantanamo Bay.

Whereas Trump tried to climb all the way up the conflict ladder and set up a talking relationship with Kim Jong Un of all people - Obama with his toffee accent compares abysmally.

He got the Nobel Peace Prize when he had accomplished nothing as President. Was a huge joke.
 
He got the Nobel Peace Prize when he had accomplished nothing as President. Was a huge joke.

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I like Mrs Obama but before she thinks about running for high office should really get some experience - the Senate or Illinois Governor.

But I don’t think she wants that.

AOC is the long term Dem hope.
 
For all the hype and hoopla, Obama the Nobel Peace Prize Winner couldn't even live up to his promise of ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. He authorized the aerial invasion of Libya to overthrow Gadaffi through NATO, and started the ongoing mess in Syria.

Couldn't even close the prison in Guantanamo Bay.

Whereas Trump tried to climb all the way up the conflict ladder and set up a talking relationship with Kim Jong Un of all people - Obama with his toffee accent compares abysmally.

What we have to remember about Obama is the rotten hand he was dealt.

He got USA out of the Great Recession quicker than any other G8 nation.

He massively wound down US deployments to Afghanistan and Iraq.

“Authorised” ? France led the charge on that intervention and eighteen other countries joined including Jordan, Qatar and UAE.

I fail to see how the Syrian civil war between Assad and various factions including ISIL was “started” by USA, though USA have supported some of said factions.

Trump was lucky enough to inherit a booming economy and more stable foreign policy which Obama built.
 
Her husband is a bigger war criminal than Trump ever will be.
 
“Authorised” ? France led the charge on that intervention and eighteen other countries joined including Jordan, Qatar and UAE.

I fail to see how the Syrian civil war between Assad and various factions including ISIL was “started” by USA, though USA have supported some of said factions.

Nobel Peace Prize Winner who professed that America would stand for "Change You can Believe In" and yet the transcript shows more countries in tatters than even George Bush's time thanks to direct US presence. Doesn't matter if France was at the head of the table (maybe that was the plan?).

Well Trump wants to ban and deport Indians whereas Obama open the gates to Indian immigrants and supported their immigration fraud.

That is a poll issue for Indian-Americans to vote upon. Most of them apparently support the Democrat party, but either way they are too few in number and too spread out to count for a meaningful electorate.
 
It is disturbing to see desis speaking up for a full-on white racist who hates them.
 
It is disturbing to see desis speaking up for a full-on white racist who hates them.

I'm not talking about Trump at all. I'm pointing out the farce that was Obama's Nobel Peace Prize.

What do I matter anyway? I don't even vote in India, leave alone whatever happens in American politics - a continent I have never set foot in.
 
Yeah Obama sucked on foreign policy, however the Iran Nuclear Agreement was a great move forward.

When both Saudi and Israeli governments have their lungis in a twist you know you're doing something right.

Trump dismantled it though because it didn't have his name on it.
 
I'm not talking about Trump at all. I'm pointing out the farce that was Obama's Nobel Peace Prize.

What do I matter anyway? I don't even vote in India, leave alone whatever happens in American politics - a continent I have never set foot in.

That wasn't the only farce. After the crash of 2008, Obama had the opportunity to really make a difference/change. What did he do? He hired the same cronies who caused the crash in the first place. Then to add insult to injury signed EOs so that the QE would be funneled to the banks, making them richer. The cherry on the cake? Obama didn't push for single prosecution.

The result? Wider gap between rich and poor, then they wonder how Trump won.
 
He got USA out of the Great Recession quicker than any other G8 nation.

The US economy would have recovered anyway, it is intrinsically strong.
“Authorised” ? France led the charge on that intervention and eighteen other countries joined including Jordan, Qatar and UAE.

Rather than opposing the intervention which has reduced Libya to a chaos, the US supported it. France is more guilty, but the US is guilty too.

I fail to see how the Syrian civil war between Assad and various factions including ISIL was “started” by USA, though USA have supported some of said factions.

If the rebels had not been armed by the CIA and others, there would have been no war.

Trump was lucky enough to inherit a booming economy and more stable foreign policy which Obama built.

4 new wars started during his term with help from US government resources is your idea of a stable foreign policy?
 
She has to have some unique and logical policies. She can win then.

If she embraces far-left policies, she is unlikely to win.
 
She has to have some unique and logical policies. She can win then.

If she embraces far-left policies, she is unlikely to win.

Don't worry, she will be a run of the mill neo-liberal candidate, ala Obama and Clinton. What far left policies are you concerned about though?
 
Don't worry, she will be a run of the mill neo-liberal candidate, ala Obama and Clinton. What far left policies are you concerned about though?

Status quo is not always a bad thing. I will just leave it at that.
 
Don't worry, she will be a run of the mill neo-liberal candidate, ala Obama and Clinton. What far left policies are you concerned about though?

Maybe ask Bernie Sanders what it feels like to lose in primaries not once but twice.

Fact of the matter is, most people don't want radical policies. They want stability.

I am not a Republican supporter, BTW.

I support common sense liberalism.
 
Maybe ask Bernie Sanders what it feels like to lose in primaries not once but twice.

Fact of the matter is, most people don't want radical policies. They want stability.

I am not a Republican supporter, BTW.

I support common sense liberalism.

I am just you asking to mention the radical policies you are taking about. Can you mention those specifically?
 
I am just you asking to mention the radical policies you are taking about. Can you mention those specifically?

LGBT is one issue. I don't support those issues.

I support regular liberalism. Not ultra-progressive one.
 
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I am just you asking to mention the radical policies you are taking about. Can you mention those specifically?

These are my stances:

- I am anti-LGBT.
- I support fiscal conservatism.
- I support renewable energy.
- I support death penalty for certain crimes.
- I support strong military.
- I support law and order.
- I support social conservatism (provided it doesn't become too extreme).
- I support women empowerment but I oppose modern feminism.
- I support free healthcare and free education for everyone.

As you can see, I have certain conservative values and certain liberal values. I am a full-blown centrist.

You can find out (from my stances) which radical policies I was referring to.
 
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These are my stances:

- I am anti-LGBT.
- I support fiscal conservatism.
- I support renewable energy.
- I support death penalty for certain crimes.
- I support strong military.
- I support law and order.
- I support social conservatism (provided it doesn't become too extreme).
- I support women empowerment but I oppose modern feminism.
- I support free healthcare and free education for everyone.

As you can see, I have certain conservative values and certain liberal values. I am a full-blown centrist.

You can find out (from my stances) which radical policies I was referring to.

The signature issues of the "radical" American left are free universal healthcare, free education including university, marijuana legalization, stopping endless wars, tackling climate change, $15 minimum wage.

Which one of these do you find too extreme?
 
The signature issues of the "radical" American left are free universal healthcare, free education including university, marijuana legalization, stopping endless wars, tackling climate change, $15 minimum wage.

Which one of these do you find too extreme?

I am against marijuana legislation 100%.

I am against giving too much attention to LGBT community.

I am against modern feminism (however, I support women empowerment).

I support free education for major degrees. I don't support free education for useless degrees (liberal arts, social science etc.).
 
She'd lose for the same reason Hillary Clinton lost.

Biden is not the answer, but nor are other has-beens like the Clintons and Obamas.

I like the sound of AOC - but I gather she's too young (1-year younger than the cut-off) to contest for the position.

AOC is a socialist nut and a far left sympathizer.
 
This picture says a lot man
Powerful stuff! ✊

Not if you think about it.

Obama had to extricate USA from Bush’s wars.

Whereas Trump has sought to get elected by stoking racism, as did certain fascist leaders of the 1930s.

And he bombed Syria.
 
AOC is a socialist nut and a far left sympathizer.

USA doesn’t have a far left, or even a left of any kind. AOC would be in the centre of the left-right axis in most European nations.
 
I am against marijuana legislation 100%.

I am against giving too much attention to LGBT community.

I am against modern feminism (however, I support women empowerment).

I support free education for major degrees. I don't support free education for useless degrees (liberal arts, social science etc.).

LGBT and feminist agenda is not part of the far left platform. It is part of democratic party platform. Not sure on what basis you call it radical though since it's already part of Canada.

Similarly, marijuana legalization is already done in Canada, so not sure on what basis it can be called radical.

I gave the core left wing platform in the US. It seems like either you or Canada already support all of their core left wing platform if you look at it policy by policy.
 
LGBT and feminist agenda is not part of the far left platform. It is part of democratic party platform. Not sure on what basis you call it radical though since it's already part of Canada.

Similarly, marijuana legalization is already done in Canada, so not sure on what basis it can be called radical.

I gave the core left wing platform in the US. It seems like either you or Canada already support all of their core left wing platform if you look at it policy by policy.

I am not a full-blown liberal. I am a centrist.

I vote for liberals because other options are worse.
 
I am not a full-blown liberal. I am a centrist.

I vote for liberals because other options are worse.

The Liberal party in Canada and Canada in general basically agrees with all of the core platform of the US far left. The only thing part of the US far left platform that Canada has not implemented is free education for university and college. But everything else has been implemented in Canada.

The issues you point out with the far left are not issues the far left is fighting for. Those are issues the democratic party is fighting for. The far left is trying to push democratic party to include things like free universal healthcare, free education, marijuana legalization, $15 minimum wage, endless wars and prison reforms into the democratic party platform. These are largely things that all major western countries have already done.
 
Michelle Obama has released a video sharply criticising Donald Trump’s record as president, particularly over the coronavirus pandemic and his approach to racial injustice, and urging the Americans to vote for Joe Biden.



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Describing him as “not up to the job” in the 24-minute video posted to her social media channels, the former first lady said the Trump presidency was accompanied by “a constant drumbeat of fear, division and chaos that’s threatening to spiral out of control.”

Speaking of the president, who tested positive for coronavirus last week, she said: “In the greatest crisis of our lifetimes, he doubled-down on division and resentment, railed against measures that could have mitigated the damage.”

“Seven months later, he still doesn’t have a plan for this virus. Seven months later, he still won’t wear a mask consistently and encourage others to do the same,” she said. “Instead, he continues to gaslight the American people by acting like this pandemic is not a real threat.”

Obama, whose husband was the first Black US president, accused Trump and his allies of “stoking fears about Black and brown Americans” in order to “distract from his breathtaking failures by giving folks someone to blame other than them.”

She said Trump’s approach was “morally wrong, and yes, it is racist. But that doesn’t mean it won’t work.”

In a direct appeal over racial injustice, she said: “I want everyone who is still undecided to think about all those folks like me and my ancestors. The millions of folks who look like me and fought and died and toiled as slaves and soldiers and labourers to help build this country. Racism, fear, division, these are powerful weapons. And they can destroy this nation if we don’t deal with them head on.”

She said that too many people in the US “only see us as a threat to be restrained”, and asked her fellow Americans to put themselves in the shoes of the minority populations “for just a moment” as she spoke of her personal experience of racism.

“As a Black woman who has – like the overwhelming majority of people of colour in this nation – done everything in my power to live a life of dignity, and service, and honesty, the knowledge that any of my fellow Americans is more afraid of me than the chaos we are living through right now, well, that hurts.”

“Imagine how it feels to wake up every day and do your very best to uphold the values that this country claims to holds dear – truth, honour, decency – only to have those efforts met by scorn, not just by your fellow citizens, but by a sitting president.”

“Imagine how it feels to have a suspicion cast on you from the day you were born, simply because of the hue of your skin. To walk around your own country scared that someone’s unjustified fear of you could put you in harm’s way,” whether that was, she said, “a racial slur from a passing car … a routine traffic stop ‘gone wrong’ … maybe a knee to the neck.”

The former first lady compared Trump’s character unfavourably to that of her husband, who was president from 2008 to 2016, and Joe Biden, saying: “After seeing the presidency up close for eight years, maybe the most important thing I’ve learned about the job is that how a president focuses their time and energy in office is a direct reflection of the life they’ve lived before entering the White House. A president’s policies are a direct reflection of their values, and we’re seeing that truth on display with our current president, who has devoted his life to enriching himself.”

The alternative, she argued, was Biden – a man she said was “guided by values and principles that mirror ones that most Americans can recognise”, “a leader who has the character and the experience to put an end to this chaos” and a “good man who understands the struggles of everyday folks.”

Again wearing the V-O-T-E necklace that had caught the eye during her speech at the Democratic National Convention in August, Obama cautioned people to take time to make a plan on how to vote. The rules around early, absentee and mail-in voting vary from state to state during a US election, and there have been significant legal challenges from the Republican party to counter attempts to make it easier to vote during the pandemic.

Addressing disillusioned minority voters, she said “To all the young people out there, to all the Black and brown folks, to anyone who feels frustrated and alienated by this whole system, I get it. I really do.”

But she urged all Americans to vote for the Democratic party nominee, telling the nation: “If you think things cannot possibly get worse, trust me, they can; and they will if we don’t make a change in this election. Search your hearts, and your conscience, and then vote for Joe Biden like your lives depend on it.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...bama-video-blasts-trump-over-racial-injustice
 
Future President? Why! What are her qualifications? Shes a woman and black?

When you have people voting on the basis of colour and sex in the first place, then you know said people are the true racists.
 
She has no chance but she will get more black and some white women out to vote for Biden.
 
Why dont you like desi's that are not brainwashed by CNN.

Cause those "good" desi's/ minorities do what is asked of them and in return the liberals throw them the leftovers from the dinner they had last night...

If one day minorities started voting for conservatives than the hijab would get banned because it oppresses women, freedoms would slowly but surely get restricted (the ideology of collective good is "good" on paper but when people are treated as "collectives" and not the individuals they are than this leads to oppressions and trampling of rights) and the same good minorities would become backward, conservatives who don't belong in the western liberal society
 
Cause those "good" desi's/ minorities do what is asked of them and in return the liberals throw them the leftovers from the dinner they had last night...

If one day minorities started voting for conservatives than the hijab would get banned because it oppresses women, freedoms would slowly but surely get restricted (the ideology of collective good is "good" on paper but when people are treated as "collectives" and not the individuals they are than this leads to oppressions and trampling of rights) and the same good minorities would become backward, conservatives who don't belong in the western liberal society

If minorities started voting conservative this is what liberals would do to minorities

They tolerate them for the votes...
 
If minorities started voting conservative this is what liberals would do to minorities

They tolerate them for the votes...

Already 'minorities' like Indians vote conservatives, yet often Indian MPs hold Labour seats that are pandered to other minorities like Pakistanis.

There was a story yesterday how Indians in apartheid South Africa and elsewhere on the continent - Kenya, Uganda etc were placed by British Empire and held their place below whites and above blacks.

Nowadays, minorities within minorities are raising their own stock while often ploughing resources of the whole.
 
If Mrs Obama is to run for President I would like to see her get some experience first. Become Governor or Senator of Illinois.
 
If Mrs Obama is to run for President I would like to see her get some experience first. Become Governor or Senator of Illinois.

With all due respect I think she gained more experience as the First Lady for 8 years then Mr Trump did constantly failing in his various business ventures..
 
With all due respect I think she gained more experience as the First Lady for 8 years then Mr Trump did constantly failing in his various business ventures..

Agreed but Trump is hardly a success as President.

I would like to see normality return and people get to the top job through gaining real experience.
 
😆 In that time there will be another Trump as President, Ivanka Trump.

Obamas missed the boat. They did nothing for the black community while in power; which is why less blacks voted for Obama the second time round. Their biggest mistake was undermining Trump Presidential challenge and ignoring it a joke. To quote Obama 'Trump will never be President'.

To add, it was Obama that convinced Biden NOT to run in 2016, and let Hillary run because wait for it 'It was her turn'. Well that sense of entitlement paid huge dividends considering she was damaged goods since her husband went incognito in the oval office.

Now, the democrats are hiring a token face; black, women, and educated, to try and convince the public not to vote for Trump. Simply they are targetting the liberal/minority vote.

Sad state of reality, voters are being urged to vote on the basis of the candidates colour and sex, and these are the same liberals that want to fight racism.
 
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