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This guy clearly has a jerky action and elbow is bending more then 15 degree for sure.

A bit of murli kinda action. Lets see if gets a warning.
 
His action has been filthy today! Absolutely horrible and illegal. He will be called at the end of this. He looks like he's modelled his action on Sennanayake lol.
 
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He should be! Bloody chuckers should be shown the door.. However, his main trade is batting and shouldn't really affect him..
 
Gabbar Singh said:
His action has been filthy today! Absolutely horrible and illegal. He will be called at the end of this. He looks like he's modelled his action on Sennanayake lol.
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lol good judgment. .for the moment I thought it was Sennanayake bowling. .
 
Is there a minimum number of overs someone needs to bowl before being reported or if umpires find something wrong with the action they can be reported even if its just one over?

Have never seen Surya bowl before. Should be the last time he hs bowled in a competitive match.
 
Should be reported.

40 degrees written all over him.

Even if he is a part time bowler, he can bowl some crucial overs in a close match and win KKR some games.

So part time or full time, gotta be ruthless.
 
ICC have created a mess, now every offie has become a suspect until they're going to be tested and cleared.

Its like 'Guilty until proven innocent'
 
Cricfan4eva said:
ICC have created a mess, now every offie has become a suspect until they're going to be tested and cleared.
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Dude this guy isn't a suspect.

This guy is like the guy whom everyone knows has committed the crime but is yet to be officially convicted.

30-40 degree extension minimum.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Dude this guy isn't a suspect.

This guy is like the guy whom everyone knows has committed the crime but is yet to be officially convicted.

30-40 degree extension minimum.
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Well I didn't watch him. He may well be a genuine chucker. But this isn't the first thread in last week questioning legality of a bowlers action. There will be loads after this as well.
 
Like I mentioned on Commentary thread, Dharmasena shook his head at Suryakumar and said something about "fastball" to him after he pelted 97km/h quicker ball.
 
Reported.

Suryakumar Yadav reported for suspected illegal bowling action

Kolkata Knight Riders player Suryakumar Yadav has been reported for a suspected illegal bowling action during tonight's Oppo Champions League Twenty20 final against Chennai Super Kings at M. Chinnaswamy Stadium in Bengaluru and has been placed on the warning list.

After all video evidence of the match was taken into account, on-field umpires Rod Tucker and Kumar Dharmasena along with third umpire S. Ravi felt that there was a flex action in his elbow beyond the acceptable limit when bowling during the match.

Under the CLT20 Suspected Illegal Bowling Action policy, Mr. Yadav may request an Official Assessment from the BCCI Suspect Bowling Action Committee.

If a player receives a report while on the warning list, the player shall be suspended from bowling in any matches organised by the BCCI until such date as he is cleared.

A player suspended from bowling may continue to be selected to play in matches, however he will not be entitled to bowl.

http://www.clt20.com/news/2014/pres...reported-for-suspected-illegal-bowling-action
 
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After all video evidence of the match was taken into account, on-field umpires Rod Tucker and Kumar Dharmasena along with third umpire S. Ravi felt that there was a flex action in his elbow beyond the acceptable limit when bowling during the match.
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A few posters on this forum should read this line.

Again.

And again.

And again and again and again and again.
 
I think this is a slap in the face for those saying that just because BCCi has spent a lot of money to focus on bowling actions in domestic cricket, their bowlers wont be reported.
 
Cricfan4eva said:
ICC have created a mess, now every offie has become a suspect until they're going to be tested and cleared.

Its like 'Guilty until proven innocent'
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Agreed but I guess it had to start some time.....Too little too late in my opinion.
 
Saj said:
I think this is a slap in the face for those saying that just because BCCi has spent a lot of money to focus on bowling actions in domestic cricket, their bowlers wont be reported.
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True but it is also a slap for those saying BCCi is only calling non-big 3 players for chucking, Now a player from the Big 1 has been reported and it shows how clean the BCCi's intentions are.
 
Sherlock said:
Agreed but I guess it had to start some time.....Too little too late in my opinion.
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Huh?

ICC and even BCCI organized tourneys (CLT20) are now pounding everyone into submission.

No player is being spared. SL and Pak boards have setup processes to identify and eliminate bowlers with bad actions. Pak has recently banned some 9 bowlers for their actions.

Its become a case of "if you are doubtful, its just a matter of time before ICC gets you".

The clean up has been swift and brutally effective.

It will take a few months before world cricket sees no one with a dodgy action but it will be done. Those who have dodgy actions will either be reported and banned or they will do remedial work and come back with a clean action.

A rare few may pass the test but the odds of that happening are low cos these umpires wait for bowlers to really stretch the limits and then they report them.
 
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Fan2014 said:
True but it is also a slap for those saying BCCi is only calling non-big 3 players for chucking, Now a player from the Big 1 has been reported and it shows how clean the BCCi's intentions are.
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Some would say though it was perhaps down to it being 2 non Indian umpires officiating in the match.
 
I think Ashwin is next. Next time when he will play, he will surely be reported.
 
If Ashwin is reported, I hope :srini pays off the right people to get him cleared.

Later on, when his bowling is useless for India, we can ban him to appease the masses.
 
More than likely now that Bhajji and Ojha will get reported in the next domestic match they play.
 
Ikball said:
I think Ashwin is next. Next time when he will play, he will surely be reported.
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Before anyone else, Junaid will most likely be bowling tomorrow. Keep an eye on what the match referee says after the match.
 
Saj said:
Some would say though it was perhaps down to it being 2 non Indian umpires officiating in the match.
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Come on Saj dont fuel these theories. I cant handle any more conspiracy posts that fly in the face of all common sense!

First it was Pakistan being screwed over, even though a Zimbo, 2 Banglas, a New Zealander and a West Indian had been reported.

Then it was the Big 3 trying to rule the game and bring about Pakistans downfall.

Then it was Aus and England because they dont have mystery spinners.

Then it was the BCCI ruling everything with an iron fist.

Why cant people just accept that the ICC decided to get serious about chucking very recently and are now trying to fix the issue?? Harsh or not it needs to be done and in the long term cricket will benefit IMO.

And people calling for rules to be lenient are already admitting they've lost the battle. Bowl within the laws or face punishment. The ICC have a tonne of issues but I think they can thanked for how they've finally decided to clamp down on chucking
 
cricketindiafan said:
Before anyone else, Junaid will most likely be bowling tomorrow. Keep an eye on what the match referee says after the match.
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If junaid gets reported, the pp'ers will want frank Tyson to be reported as well.
 
Come on Saj dont fuel these theories. I cant handle any more conspiracy posts that fly in the face of all common sense!
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Some will say it's fact not a conspiracy theory at all.
 
Donal Cozzie said:
Come on Saj dont fuel these theories. I cant handle any more conspiracy posts that fly in the face of all common sense!

First it was Pakistan being screwed over, even though a Zimbo, 2 Banglas, a New Zealander and a West Indian had been reported.

Then it was the Big 3 trying to rule the game and bring about Pakistans downfall.

Then it was Aus and England because they dont have mystery spinners.

Then it was the BCCI ruling everything with an iron fist.

Why cant people just accept that the ICC decided to get serious about chucking very recently and are now trying to fix the issue?? Harsh or not it needs to be done and in the long term cricket will benefit IMO.

And people calling for rules to be lenient are already admitting they've lost the battle. Bowl within the laws or face punishment. The ICC have a tonne of issues but I think they can thanked for how they've finally decided to clamp down on chucking
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Rightly said. ICC is doing a great job here.

Saj said:
Some will say it's fact not a conspiracy theory at all.
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Pretty much all conspiracy theories believer think that their theories are fact. It's expected.
 
I mean they missed the boat with Murali and are now overly punishing any bowler with an inch of suspicion.
 
cricketindiafan said:
Before anyone else, Junaid will most likely be bowling tomorrow. Keep an eye on what the match referee says after the match.
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Why does it matter who's first or second? Is it some kind of competition? Let's just catch the chuckers be it from Pakistan, West Indies, Russia or Papua New Guniea
 
I don't think the ICC were alone in finding punishing bowlers with suspicious actions. The timing of the whole saga is dubious to say the least.
 
Sherlock said:
I don't think the ICC were alone in finding punishing bowlers with suspicious actions. The timing of the whole saga is dubious to say the least.
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I'd rather chuckers be found and banned now than during/after the World Cup where they may actually have a serious affect on the competition.

Honestly the ICC just cant win. Had this happened after the World Cup I guarantee you people would be saying "Oh they're doing it because Ind/Aus/whoever didnt win the cup" or "they're just jealous Pak/WI/whoever won and they want to ban their good players" etc. etc.

The timing may be unfortunate for some teams but in the end its the boards fault for not correcting the issue when they had the chance and relying heavily on players who are bowling illegally.
 
Donal Cozzie said:
I'd rather chuckers be found and banned now than during/after the World Cup where they may actually have a serious affect on the competition.

Honestly the ICC just cant win. Had this happened after the World Cup I guarantee you people would be saying "Oh they're doing it because Ind/Aus/whoever didnt win the cup" or "they're just jealous Pak/WI/whoever won and they want to ban their good players" etc. etc.

The timing may be unfortunate for some teams but in the end its the boards fault for not correcting the issue when they had the chance and relying heavily on players who are bowling illegally.
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You are on fire.
 
Nicely done by the BCCI. Getting a no-name domestic player banned so that no one can point fingers at them.
 
Donal Cozzie said:
Come on Saj dont fuel these theories. I cant handle any more conspiracy posts that fly in the face of all common sense!

First it was Pakistan being screwed over, even though a Zimbo, 2 Banglas, a New Zealander and a West Indian had been reported.

Then it was the Big 3 trying to rule the game and bring about Pakistans downfall.

Then it was Aus and England because they dont have mystery spinners.

Then it was the BCCI ruling everything with an iron fist.

Why cant people just accept that the ICC decided to get serious about chucking very recently and are now trying to fix the issue?? Harsh or not it needs to be done and in the long term cricket will benefit IMO.

And people calling for rules to be lenient are already admitting they've lost the battle. Bowl within the laws or face punishment. The ICC have a tonne of issues but I think they can thanked for how they've finally decided to clamp down on chucking
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Post of the hour !!
 
Sherlock said:
I mean they missed the boat with Murali and are now overly punishing any bowler with an inch of suspicion.
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Murali, passed, he can't extend, offspinner flexing w/o extending is pretty much useless. Heath slater, Michael Vaughan, Shastri all defend him over and over again. He bowled with an iron cast for godsake. You can whine all you want mr.sherlock....you are a doorlock.
 
Junaid khan , Dale steyn , Shami ahmed , m starc

These are the other player who are chuckers
 
I booked Dharmasena warning Yadav about quickerball, he bowled it again next over
 
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Thivagar said:
Murali, passed, he can't extend, offspinner flexing w/o extending is pretty much useless. Heath slater, Michael Vaughan, Shastri all defend him over and over again. He bowled with an iron cast for godsake. You can whine all you want mr.sherlock....you are a doorlock.
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What?

Calling me names because your point didn't make any sense is rather stupid.

Even if Murali bowled with an iron cast, he was flexing over the limit even then. I stood up for him then but seeing as though users want to accuse particular bowlers of chucking, let's not forget who started this whole process.
 
Dios said:
Nicely done by the BCCI. Getting a no-name domestic player banned so that no one can point fingers at them.
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Wonder why BCCI pulled Ashwin from the WI series.

Nice timing. Report this no one guy, and hide Ashwin from international matches.
 
Hawkeye said:
Wonder why BCCI pulled Ashwin from the WI series.

Nice timing. Report this no one guy, and hide Ashwin from international matches.
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Don't worry Ashwin will play the tests against WI and bowl lots of overs for the umpires to look and report. BCCI does not need to hide him as he will play plenty of games leading up to the WC considering he is India's premier spinner. You are talking as if the reporting time of the bowlers is going to end after the 3 ODI's.
 
Saj said:
I think this is a slap in the face for those saying that just because BCCi has spent a lot of money to focus on bowling actions in domestic cricket, their bowlers wont be reported.
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he is a part time bowler,not a regular even in domestic
 
BAn all the chuckers :murali :hafeez

It is a great step taken, it will make those young bowlers change their actions those try to copy their chucker idols.
 
joly said:
I think Junaid Khan and Harbhajan are next in the list
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Harby probably not, because he will hardly play a game until next IPL. But yeah, Junaid can find himself in trouble in upcoming few series.
 
Dios said:
Nicely done by the BCCI. Getting a no-name domestic player banned so that no one can point fingers at them.
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I think they should ban Ashwin to please some guys. But then another conspiracy theory will come up that ashwin was useless already that's why they banned him.
They should ban jadeja instead. :afridi
 
Saj said:
I think this is a slap in the face for those saying that just because BCCi has spent a lot of money to focus on bowling actions in domestic cricket, their bowlers wont be reported.
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It's a bigger slap for those who said BCCI is targeting bowlers from the non Big-3 countries, and that none of the Indian bowlers would ever be reported. I can hear the sound of this one much louder.
 
giri26 said:
Don't worry Ashwin will play the tests against WI and bowl lots of overs for the umpires to look and report. BCCI does not need to hide him as he will play plenty of games leading up to the WC considering he is India's premier spinner. You are talking as if the reporting time of the bowlers is going to end after the 3 ODI's.
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Let's see for how long BCCI hides him.

And let's see if any umpire has guts to report his action to be tested. This should be the minimum.

Hafeez's action is as smooth as Ashwin's if not better but he was targeted in CLT20.
 
cricketjoshila said:
He is not a chucker with his off spin carrom balls or quicker ones.
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How can you say that? It's all relative opinion and nothing concrete. Needs to be tested. BCCI has a reason to hide him as well.

Hafeez is as clean as him or maybe better but was still reported.

Again, comes down to personal opinion but facts can only be known if they get tested.
 
Hawkeye said:
How can you say that? It's all relative opinion and nothing concrete. Needs to be tested.

Hafeez is as clean as him or maybe better but was still reported.

Again, comes down to personal opinion but facts can only be known if they get tested.
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He has never been reported ever.Hardly uses long sleeves.Though he openly said that he will wear long sleeves and will use more elbow he did it only for couple of months.

Bowlers cannot be tested just because some anonymous posters on forums want them to be tested.If and when the umpires believe he is chucking.Remember Ajmal Narine Sena etc all had question mark raised on their actions by experts commentators for sometime.No one has ever questioned Ashwin.
 
cricketjoshila said:
He has never been reported ever.Hardly uses long sleeves.Though he openly said that he will wear long sleeves and will use more elbow he did it only for couple of months.

Bowlers cannot be tested just because some anonymous posters on forums want them to be tested.If and when the umpires believe he is chucking.Remember Ajmal Narine Sena etc all had question mark raised on their actions by experts commentators for sometime.No one has ever questioned Ashwin.
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So now the criteria to get reported is some commentator pointing it out and then umpires reporting the test?

Ajmal/Harbhajan/Ojha/Sena/Suryakumar were blatant cases, but Hafeez and Ashwin aren't. Not necessary commentators need to point it out and they don't usually do it either.

Regardless, BCCI is clever at least and hiding Ahswin for now.
 
Hawkeye said:
So now the criteria to get reported is some commentator pointing it out and then umpires reporting the test?

Ajmal/Harbhajan/Ojha/Sena/Suryakumar were blatant cases, but Hafeez and Ashwin aren't. Not necessary commentators need to point it out and they don't usually do it either.

Regardless, BCCI is clever at least and hiding Ahswin for now.
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Ojha?He hasnt been reported yet.

AFAIK Sena Ajmal Narine were all previously reported and cleared under old rules.Ojha wasnt even reported.

Hafeezs reporting is regarding his pause ball.If you havent noticed Ashwin didnt bowl any pause balls this CLT20.
 
MRSN said:
Well he did chuck to get Maxwell in the IPL2014 means he can or may have chuck to get wickets before too.
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Yes he openly said that other were using more elbow to get wickets and getting away with it so why shouldnt I.And he did it.Now that using more elbow isnt allowed and those using it are being nabbed he wont be using it.

As i said all his normal deliveries like Off spin Carrom ball quicker one are not chucks.He bowled a doosra to maxwell and he doesnt bowl that ball regularly atleast i havent seen.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Yes he openly said that other were using more elbow to get wickets and getting away with it so why shouldnt I.And he did it.Now that using more elbow isnt allowed and those using it are being nabbed he wont be using it.

As i said all his normal deliveries like Off spin Carrom ball quicker one are not chucks.He bowled a doosra to maxwell and he doesnt bowl that ball regularly atleast i havent seen.
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He shouldn't have done it though. It's like you want the police to catch the murderer but police isn't so you murder one too. That is not how things go.

He has admitted the same crime as well.

Also you said he wanted ICC's attention to this issue and bowled it intentionally. That was for Asia cup only. Not IPL. IPL is organised by the BCCI not ICC. Why did he chuck in the IPL? He shouldn't have it. Asia cup. Fine but doing same thing in the IPL makes his case weaker and raises questions about him as well. I'd consider that cheating and never trust him whenever he takes a wicket fingers might be raised at him.
 
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MRSN said:
He shouldn't have done it though. It's like you want the police to catch the murderer but police isn't so you murder one too. That is not how things go.

He has admitted the same crime as well.

Also you said he wanted ICC's attention to this issue and bowled it intentionally. That was for Asia cup only. Not IPL. IPL is organised by the BCCI not ICC. Why did he chuck in the IPL? He shouldn't have it. Asia cup. Fine but doing same thing in the IPL makes his case weaker and raises questions about him as well. I'd consider that cheating and never trust him whenever he takes a wicket fingers might be raised at him.
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Honest question if you go by that logic:

Imran Khan had himself admitted to tampering the ball in county cricket.

Even Shoaib Akhtar had accepted it.

Wasim and Waqar used to do it.

We are not talking about conventional accepted methods for reverse swing but actual tampering of the ball.

So you must consider all of them as cheats and NOT ATGs right?

Hey, this is not my logic (I love Wasim and Waqar). Just using yours.
 
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You are using a few instance of Ashwin chucking (when everyone was doing it and no one was getting reported) to make a claim that you would NEVER trust him even when he takes wickets legitimately.

So you must use the same yardstick and never trust Waqar, Wasim and Imran for all the countless wickets they took legitimately.

That's only fair. Don't you think so?
 
MRSN said:
He shouldn't have done it though. It's like you want the police to catch the murderer but police isn't so you murder one too. That is not how things go.

He has admitted the same crime as well.

Also you said he wanted ICC's attention to this issue and bowled it intentionally. That was for Asia cup only. Not IPL. IPL is organised by the BCCI not ICC. Why did he chuck in the IPL? He shouldn't have it. Asia cup. Fine but doing same thing in the IPL makes his case weaker and raises questions about him as well. I'd consider that cheating and never trust him whenever he takes a wicket fingers might be raised at him.
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In IPL Narine chucked his way to 20 wickets.See if you watch others chucking and being successful and the authorities allowing it then it by proxy becomes legal.What Ashwin did at that time was legal.Its illegal now.If he does it now.He must be reported.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Honest question if you go by that logic:

Imran Khan had himself admitted to tampering the ball in county.

Even Shoaib Akhtar had accepted it.

Wasim and Waqar used to do it.

We are not talking about conventional accepted methods for reverse swing but actual tampering with the ball.

So you must consider all of them as cheats and NOT ATGs right?

Hey, this is not my logic (I love Wasim and Waqar). Just using yours.
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It's an open fact mate that Every great bowler at some point has done ball tampering. SA'ns have a great bowling attack atm and they were caught so many times. English bowlers have done it time and time again. Trescothic himself admitted that the ball tampering was done in the Ashes 2005. Sachin was caught once as well. But I'm yet to come across a bowlet who said he chuck to get those participating wickets. What is punishment for ball tampering? 5 additional runs? What's punishment for being found out you were chucking one particular delivery?lifetime ban.
 
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Excellent!

But seriously, when will these guys get reported??

Junaid Khan
Wahab Riaz
Raza Hasan
Mohammad Irfan

Cheema also.

:misbah
 
MRSN said:
It's an open fact mate that Every great bowler at some point has done ball tampering. SA'ns have a great bowling attack atm and they were caught so many times. English bowlers have done it time and time again. Trescothic himself admitted that the ball tampering was done in the Ashes 2005. Sachin was caught once as well. But I'm yet to come across a bowlet who said U chuck to get those participating wickets. What is punishment for ball tampering? 5 additional runs? What's punishment for being found out you were chucking one particular delivery?lifetime ban.
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Haha....

It's an open fact mate that Every great bowler at some point has done ball tampering.
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Same way, its an open fact that many off spinners these days have been chucking. Doesn't make that right.

Forget about the punishment for ball tampering vs ban. We can have that debate in another thread. This is about your logic and the way you use it.

By your logic, if you consider Ashwin a cheat, you must also consider:

1. Wasim, Waqar, Imran and Akhtar a cheat.
2. Sachin a cheat (ball tampering)
3. Steyn, Faf, Philander a cheat

Why this double standard?
 
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[MENTION=57576]MRSN[/MENTION] - The premise of your logic is: Once a cheat, always a cheat.

Let's call Sachin a cheat too. That's fine.

Now why do you consider only Ashwin a cheat and not the great Pak bowlers?

Now defend your logic.

Why the inconsistency?
 
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Statsman said:
Excellent!

But seriously, when will these guys get reported??

Junaid Khan
Wahab Riaz
Raza Hasan
Mohammad Irfan

Cheema also.

:misbah
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Irfan and Wahab look clean to me. Its just Junaid and Raza Hasan who have dodgy actions. Cheema too is borderline.
 
Electron said:
Irfan and Wahab look clean to me. Its just Junaid and Raza Hasan who have dodgy actions. Cheema too is borderline.
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If Ashwin, Jadeja and now Sami are having dodgy actions, then I am not too sure about Wahab and Irfan too.
 
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