[VIDEO] Was this behaviour necessary from Hassan Ali?

[Firebat]

Hassan Ali seemed to get quite riled up by Zimbabwean Test debutant Luke Jongwe cover driving him for 4, to the point that Rizwan had to run over to calm him down.

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Jongwe then pulled out of his stance at the last minute the next ball, before Hassan Ali ran in once again, but this time holding his arms outstretched and sticking his tongue out. Jongwe calmly left the ball outside off.



Captain Babar then removed Hassan from the attack. Sadly, Hassan didn't win this blockbuster battle this time.

 

[Nasty Naz]

I enjoy seeing players really go at each other. It's not like it happens much nowadays anyways.

Got zero issues with it.

 

[ElRaja]

you can clearly read his lips, he said "what, what did you say", so jongwe pbly said something to him, in which case theres northing really wrong with standing your ground.

didnt seem to be anything wrong tbh.

 

[Saj]

This 'battle' seems to be from earlier in the series where they had a few words to say to each other.

It's continued whenever they have faced each other.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Embarrassing to say the least. Imagine having a go at a Zimbabwean batsman that too a debutant. Someone needs to talk to this guy. Save his cringe celebrations and his confrontations against the bigger teams.

 

[MenInG]

Even Shaheen's bouncer barrage was to me a little unnecessary but guess that is part of today's game

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

I wish our bowlers showed the same intimidation towards Australians and Indians that they do towards a No.6 Zimbabwean playing his first test match.

 

[Saj]

I think Hassan gave Jongwe a send-off after he got him out in the first innings too.

To be fair to Hassan, he gets stuck into all opposition, whoever they are.

 

[Markhor]

Well we can't have it both ways can we ?

I read many complaints here that our guys don't sledge, don't say anything to the opposition, have poor body language etc.

Personally not a fan of these send offs but when a sport is played by red blooded men fuelled by adrenaline and emotion then sometimes you'll go over the top.

 

[90MPH]

Storm in a tea cup.

Nothing happened other than some words, that’s always been part of the game.

I would only have a problem if Hasan wasn’t performing but he is so he can show some aggression as well.

 

[Itachi]

well. I am all for sledging and all.

But against a rookie batsman that too of Zimbabwe is like beating a toddler.

 

[TheNightWatchman]

I wish our bowlers showed the same intimidation towards Australians and Indians that they do towards a No.6 Zimbabwean playing his first test match.

I really do wish that. Miss the days of Akhtar sledging the Aussies for fun. And that too the legendary Aussie side, Like Haydos and Ponting.

 

[Zaz]

well. I am all for sledging and all.

But against a rookie batsman that too of Zimbabwe is like beating a toddler.

This Id like to see this aggression against the likes of the indians and australians too

They seem to go into their shell against some of the bigger names in cricket

 

[Slim]

Love itttt!!! Well done to Hassan. We need this kind of passion and jazba from our players. Love that he did the arms stretch out tongue thing. Intimidating as hell. Hahaha.

And Hassan can be clearly seen saying "What, what did you just say" which means the batsman did say smth to him.

 

[Varun]

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Another notable incident in Hasan Ali's famed rivalry with Zimbabwe's batsmen.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

I really do wish that. Miss the days of Akhtar sledging the Aussies for fun. And that too the legendary Aussie side, Like Haydos and Ponting.

Lol those little moments were really something to cherish, atleast for me. Because there was no way we were winning a single match. So intimidating the Aussies was the closest thing to entertainment.

Haydos and Shoaib has a legit rivalry from what I remember. Whenever Shoaib would come to bowl and Haydos was at the other end, you knew it was on.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

The problem with this for me was that it was Hasan Ali just acting like a child.

I don't mind sledging as long as there is a reason behind it. But this wasn't that. It was Hasan going towards Jongwe and chirping for no good reason. The next ball Jongwe smashed him for four and that angered him so he went back for more words.

Completely unnecessary and in the end made himself look like a fool more than anything else because he couldn't get him out.

In a way it was like Aamer Sohail vs. Prasad in reverse.

 

[mastimasti]

Seems Jong said something to Ali, to which he responded. Nothing wrong as long as it wasn't racial or over the line. Ali has another 5 for so nothing wrong from his perspective either.

 

[TabishNator]

It's clear Jongwe said something to him first.

 

[Savak]

I would rather they do this against the Big boys. Looks pathetic to do this against minnows and to go quite when facing teams like India, Australia, England, NZ etc

 

[street cricketer]

*Cringe intensifies*

 

[AnonKB]

I would rather they do this against the Big boys. Looks pathetic to do this against minnows and to go quite when facing teams like India, Australia, England, NZ etc

In the last test series Hasan got into an argument with QDK and people complained then too. This doesn’t really have anything to do with the opposition for Hasan.

 

[Mohsin Kazmi]

He always acts like this and go over the board with 'Jazba'. Nothing new

 

[Rafa]

Hasan is a top performer and should wisely pick his battles with players of equal standing. Jognwe is a debutant , no point showing him so much aggression.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

I guess most people didn't see the entire thing. Hasan Ali came off looking like quite a fool because he is the one who started the sledging. On the very next ball he got smashed for a four which led to another, more angered confrontation from Hasan. Next ball Jongwe pulled out when he was in his run-up which infuriated him some more and then he was taken out of the attack.

Explain to me how Hasan Ali comes off looking like anything other than an immature child in this entire scenario?

Sledging is good as long as it actually serves a purpose. If you're gonna get cleaned up by Venky Prasad in a World Cup QF than there's no point to it.

 

[shaz619]

I think these type of interactions are great for Test cricket but I find it amusing how you always see this from players when the playing field is not exactly levelled

 

[shaz619]

Even Shaheen's bouncer barrage was to me a little unnecessary but guess that is part of today's game

I felt the same but it’s Test cricket at the end of the day and we have better concussion protocols now and safety equipment to

 

[Gullycricket]

Nothing wrong. If people defend clownish attitude of Kohli then Hasan is doing fine too

 

[street cricketer]

Nothing wrong. If people defend clownish attitude of Kohli then Hasan is doing fine too

But you're the first one to throw a hissy fit whenever Kohli does even half of this.

So logically you should have a problem with this behaviour too. Apparently not.

 

[Line and Length]

I'd rather he save this aggression against top tier sides. Yes, we shouldn't be sissy pushovers, but there needs to be a balance. Kind of embarrassing to be doing this against a Zimbabwean debutant given the match situation. Hasan's performances have been pretty solid since he's made his comeback, but unfortunately I don't think he's matured too much during his absence.

 

[Abid Z]

Was nothing really. Nobody was out of line and good from both players. Adds to the drama without crossing any lines.

 

[topspin]

Well we can't have it both ways can we ?

I read many complaints here that our guys don't sledge, don't say anything to the opposition, have poor body language etc.

Personally not a fan of these send offs but when a sport is played by red blooded men fuelled by adrenaline and emotion then sometimes you'll go over the top.

The issue our players are too timid to sledge the big dogs (England, Australia and India) so we have to go out of way to bully the minnows instead.

Quite embarrassing, cringeworthy and pathetic if you ask me.

 

[Shoaibbtt]

Initially I thought he was having a laugh with Luke never thought it was serious, but yea a little immature.

 

[Third_Umpire]

Pathetic to see. This kind of stuff fits of the opposition warrants it. We are murdering this hapless Zimbabwe team. Hasan should be laughing this off, not worth his time

 

[Thatsgold]

Hasan Ali is pathetic and embarrassing...
Doing this against the likes of Zimbabwe lmao.....extremely embarrassing

 

[Snowflake]

Nothing wrong with it if Hassan can show the same attitude against stronger teams. Looks weak if he acts all macho against Zim but doesn't bring it against bigger teams.

 

[mazkhan]

This will always be one of the downsides of hasan ali whenever he is in a purple patch he will try that gangster swagger persona and eventually his performances will dip, give it all the booms at wagah and then got taken to the cleaners by Indian batsmen.

 

[PakLFC]

Being a bad loser is not a bad thing. As long as Hassan did not say anything personal i see nothing wrong in it. I have a bit of fire in my belly too!

 

[El Generico]

The issue our players are too timid to sledge the big dogs (England, Australia and India) so we have to go out of way to bully the minnows instead.

Quite embarrassing, cringeworthy and pathetic if you ask me.

IIRC Hassan Ali did sledge Dhawan when we played India. It didn’t end well cause Dhawan played a pretty decent innings but Hassan Ali definitely isn’t timid no matter who he is playing against.

Rest of our players are pretty laidback and don’t sledge anyone regardless of their team.

 

[OMB]

All in a days game.
What is interesting is that strange aspiration to sledge top teams.
So sledging Aussies carries more weightage than sledging Zim. maybe 2 x?
sledging India?

 

[Snowflake]

All in a days game.
What is interesting is that strange aspiration to sledge top teams.
So sledging Aussies carries more weightage than sledging Zim. maybe 2 x?
sledging India?

It does, yeah. Because you then you know that you are in a contest. It takes balls to sledge a capable opponent. Sledging a weak opposition is easy because you know they aren't capable to fight back. Pretty basic concept this, not sure why you find it strange.

 

[TheNightWatchman]

All in a days game.
What is interesting is that strange aspiration to sledge top teams.
So sledging Aussies carries more weightage than sledging Zim. maybe 2 x?
sledging India?

Sledging when done right adds a competitive edge to the sport. It's always fun to see the best being challenged and it should be done "PUNCHING UP" rather than down. Plus it's more exciting to the sport. Don't tell me "See you at the Gabba" didn't fire up the Indian cricketers even a little bit.

 

[TheNightWatchman]

But you're the first one to throw a hissy fit whenever Kohli does even half of this.

So logically you should have a problem with this behaviour too. Apparently not.

This guy probably never saw Miandad in his prime lol. Never saw a batsman sledge bowlers like he did

 

[Colorblind Genius]

I enjoy seeing players really go at each other. It's not like it happens much nowadays anyways.

Got zero issues with it.

I think it’s more of a linguistic challenge that Hasan Ali may be facing.

The batsman said something most likely in basic English but Hasan Ali didn’t have the foggiest of ideas as to what was spoken. So he is like “what ??”
Obviously the batsman was not gonna translate it into Urdu for him.

 

[Mamoon]

Our players act like high school bullies who can only pick on weak kids because they know that if they act tough against the big boys, they will get thrashed.

Hassan Ali will not dare to “show eyes” to the big boys after the humiliation India fished out to him in the 2018 Asia Cup.

He did his stupid celebration at the border and claimed that he will take 10 wickets against India because his head was still in the clouds because of the CT fluke, and him along with other players as well as the fans felt invincible against India.

However, Rohit and Dhawan treated him like a club bowler and smashed him all over UAE, reminding him why India will remain three levels above Pakistan even without Kohli.

It took almost 2 years for Hassan Ali to mentally recover from the embarrassment and brutal reality-check.

 

[Snowflake]

Our players act like high school bullies who can only pick on weak kids because they know that if they act tough against the big boys, they will get thrashed.

Hassan Ali will not dare to “show eyes” to the big boys after the humiliation India fished out to him in the 2018 Asia Cup.

He did his stupid celebration at the border and claimed that he will take 10 wickets against India because his head was still in the clouds because of the CT fluke, and him along with other players as well as the fans felt invincible against India.

However, Rohit and Dhawan treated him like a club bowler and smashed him all over UAE, reminding him why India will remain three levels above Pakistan even without Kohli.

It took almost 2 years for Hassan Ali to mentally recover from the embarrassment and brutal reality-check.

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Didn't you ask a poster to set something as their signature because they were repeating it every now and then?

Looks like Hassan Ali eventually recovered but not everyone did.

 

[OMB]

It does, yeah. Because you then you know that you are in a contest. It takes balls to sledge a capable opponent. Sledging a weak opposition is easy because you know they aren't capable to fight back. Pretty basic concept this, not sure why you find it strange.

Hmm, we are on same page.
so isn't it strange that fans expect Hassan Ali to do it against top teams when obviously he can't back it up.

 

[OMB]

Sledging when done right adds a competitive edge to the sport. It's always fun to see the best being challenged and it should be done "PUNCHING UP" rather than down. Plus it's more exciting to the sport. Don't tell me "See you at the Gabba" didn't fire up the Indian cricketers even a little bit.

you are caught on the principle, nothing wrong with the principle. Apply it where it works though.

Don't go wishing that Hassan Ali sledge top teams, unless you want some hilarious "mind the windows hassan"

 

[TheNightWatchman]

Hmm, we are on same page.
so isn't it strange that fans expect Hassan Ali to do it against top teams when obviously he can't back it up.

I mean, that's extremely presumptuous of you to think Hassan Ali can't get the better of batsmen in the top teams.

 

[Abdurmirr]

This guy cracks me up. A true representation of the current Pakistan team

It's already pretty sad that we have to play a full strength team against Zimbabwe to ensure a series win, however now we have resorted to giving send off's to basic club level cricketers??

What annoys me even more is just how hysterical our players got whenever we picked up a wicket and when we won both games. You would think we just beat Australia or England but no it's just the great Zimbabwe.

I know our standards are low but still.

 

[Rellu_Katta]

need this aggression... have had too many soft players in past ...

In Hassan, Rizwan and Imam, we have a bunch of "in opposition skin" players which is necessary
But then they have to equally perform...

Banter without performance is just pure shame

 

[Rellu_Katta]

This guy cracks me up. A true representation of the current Pakistan team

It's already pretty sad that we have to play a full strength team against Zimbabwe to ensure a series win, however now we have resorted to giving send off's to basic club level cricketers??

What annoys me even more is just how hysterical our players got whenever we picked up a wicket and when we won both games. You would think we just beat Australia or England but no it's just the great Zimbabwe.

I know our standards are low but still.

constant crying ... winning is a habit ... so what should they do, win and then sit on the ground and start moaning and "pit-pataka" ... get some happiness in ur life.. that would really help

 

[Third Man]

constant crying ... winning is a habit ... so what should they do, win and then sit on the ground and start moaning and "pit-pataka" ... get some happiness in ur life.. that would really help

Win and be dignified. You don't scream after picking the wicket of a Zimbabwe number 9. And you don't take off your helmet after scoring a 50 against Zimbabwe. They look pathetic.

 

[Abdurmirr]

constant crying ... winning is a habit ... so what should they do, win and then sit on the ground and start moaning and "pit-pataka" ... get some happiness in ur life.. that would really help

I don't think giving send off's to club level players is something we should be happy seeing our players doing. Yes it is important to win, however treating a series win against a below standard opposition with the same equivalency most teams would treat a win against an equally matched opposition shows how low our players and fans standards are.

I mean if you believe defeating the mighty Zim compensates over the humiliating loses we endured in Australia and New Zealand than alright fair enough.

 

[Rellu_Katta]

Win and be dignified. You don't scream after picking the wicket of a Zimbabwe number 9. And you don't take off your helmet after scoring a 50 against Zimbabwe. They look pathetic.

try playing cricket at any level and u would understand how pumped up the players get... don't think u have witnessed it ... when giving 100% on a hot humid field even on a tennis ball cricket match, the emotions get high n u celebrate eratically .. so all this point of not celebrating is nuisance .. and we r not talking abt seasoned 50+ test players here.. most of the team is young (either in age or num of tests) so over the board celebrations are accepted ... game without emotions is just bland n yuks

 

[Rellu_Katta]

I don't think giving send off's to club level players is something we should be happy seeing our players doing. Yes it is important to win, however treating a series win against a below standard opposition with the same equivalency most teams would treat a win against an equally matched opposition shows how low our players and fans standards are.

I mean if you believe defeating the mighty Zim compensates over the humiliating loses we endured in Australia and New Zealand than alright fair enough.

we had too many pie players in the past who were just doing things like machine... emotions are important and they will surface when u win ...

saddistic comments on wins are awesome ... if they hadn't shown any emotions, we would see cry babies here saying "wats the point of being so arrogant and bla bla"

lets see when the mighty Aussies or NZ come n face us in our home ground... and when we win, u can eat up ur "humiliating" loss jab

 

[Itachi]

try playing cricket at any level and u would understand how pumped up the players get... don't think u have witnessed it ... when giving 100% on a hot humid field even on a tennis ball cricket match, the emotions get high n u celebrate eratically .. so all this point of not celebrating is nuisance .. and we r not talking abt seasoned 50+ test players here.. most of the team is young (either in age or num of tests) so over the board celebrations are accepted ... game without emotions is just bland n yuks

bland and yuks is why India, Australia are at top. because these are professional team.

Pakistan can provide entertainment but when it comes to quality cricket, it is a mediocre team right now which will shine on rare occasions.

People shouldn't complain about Pakistan team if they want entertainment.

 

[Abdurmirr]

we had too many pie players in the past who were just doing things like machine... emotions are important and they will surface when u win ...

saddistic comments on wins are awesome ... if they hadn't shown any emotions, we would see cry babies here saying "wats the point of being so arrogant and bla bla"

lets see when the mighty Aussies or NZ come n face us in our home ground... and when we win, u can eat up ur "humiliating" loss jab

Ok I'll wait for the great team of Pakistan, the same team that couldn't chase 120 against Zimbabwe, to prove me wrong.

And yes emotions are important but they are also a symbol of what teams prioritise and find important. Winning against Zimbabwe and celebrating like that shows how high Pakistan values a win agaisnt a minnow opposition. It show's how long the standard and the bare minimum is in the dressing room. It shows that our players are satisfied with their performance in a tour where they almost lost a t20 series to the 11th ranked team. As a fan of Pakistan cricket, such attitudes within our players makes me sad for our future.

But hey I guess it's all part of the game, bullying sub standard cricketers

 

[Itachi]

just for the record, bullying looks good only when the two opponents are equal in terms of exposure, talent, quality.

Otherwise, you can do it but you won't have the same respect as in previous case.

 

[Titan24]

Adrenaline rush in a competitive sport.

When you are in that zone it doesnt matter who is the opposition. All these moments are natural occurrences in the field of play, its unrealistic to think that a guy bowling 5-6 overs at a high pace will sit back and think who the opposition is and then plan his emotions like an actor in a theatre. Yes different athletes have different ways to express those emotions.

After a mini altercation with Hasan, Jongwe backed out of the next delivery and this run up was Hasan’s response with emotions running further high. It could have been anyone and Hasan would have done the same, its the kind of character he is whether its Wagha border or a cricket field.

As far as it is within the laws of the game I personally dont have any issues. He tried to create something in a dead match with bit of mini battle between Jongwe.

 

[Devadwal]

Nothing wrong with this behaviour infect i love sledging in cricket until red line

 

[Hasan123]

Against a Zimbabwe tail ender I don't think this is necessary.

 

[Forum363]

Our players act like high school bullies who can only pick on weak kids because they know that if they act tough against the big boys, they will get thrashed.

Hassan Ali will not dare to “show eyes” to the big boys after the humiliation India fished out to him in the 2018 Asia Cup.

He did his stupid celebration at the border and claimed that he will take 10 wickets against India because his head was still in the clouds because of the CT fluke, and him along with other players as well as the fans felt invincible against India.

However, Rohit and Dhawan treated him like a club bowler and smashed him all over UAE, reminding him why India will remain three levels above Pakistan even without Kohli.

It took almost 2 years for Hassan Ali to mentally recover from the embarrassment and brutal reality-check.

You love quoting that 10 wicket thing but from what I can remember he said he wanted to take all 10 wickets against India.

He never claimed he will do it.

What was he supposed to say? I only want to get a few wickets?

You latch on to these positive comments by young passionate Pakistani bowlers like Hassan and Naseem and if they’re not performing amazingly then ridicule them for their statements.

 

[Gullycricket]

Kohli used to sledge Rubel Hossain fgs and people here having go at Hasan for sledging Zimbos

 

[silentkiller187]

theres always that extra bit of judgement when a pakistani player does it , bit of handbags in sport, happens all the time, move on no biggie. the other day there was threads about SA c grade player sledging Baber and why did not Babar reply bla bla, today is why did Hassan Ali sledge this c grade player. swings and roundabouts.

 

[street cricketer]

Kohli used to sledge Rubel Hossain fgs and people here having go at Hasan for sledging Zimbos

And he gets roundly criticised in the forum for his antics.

 

[Zaz]

I like the fire in hasan All our bowlers should do it like the good old days

Just make sure you do it to the biggies too Not just a zimbo tailender

 

[Snowflake]

Hmm, we are on same page.
so isn't it strange that fans expect Hassan Ali to do it against top teams when obviously he can't back it up.

I don't know about other but I certainly think he can back it up, which is why I think he should maintain this persona across all kinds of oppositions.

 

[Hasan123]

I genuinely don't mind some sledging and confrontation. But I mean come on, sledging a Zimbabwe tail ender when the game is done lol. It's just unnecessary tbh.

 

[Gullycricket]

And he gets roundly criticised in the forum for his antics.

He should be since he is face of Indian cricket. I don't endorse Hasan doing it or Kohli. Doing such unnecessary antics is not good. But if Kohli gets away with it so should Hasan

 

[street cricketer]

He should be since he is face of Indian cricket. I don't endorse Hasan doing it or Kohli. Doing such unnecessary antics is not good. But if Kohli gets away with it so should Hasan

Kohli doesn't "get away" with it. Even Indian fans heavily criticise Kohli's antics. It comes across as hypocritical to criticise Kohli's antics when he does it and give a clean chit to Hasan because Kohli goes scot free apparently.

 

[Saj]

I think Hassan would take anyone on, no matter who they were or who they played for.

He'd be ready for a scrap.

 

[ManFan]

Either accept it as a breath of fresh air or just accept that these are robots.

 

[shamaan]

Nothing wrong with abit of aggression it's good to see Hassan Is up for a fight even if its zimbabwe.shaheen afridi is similar in terms of aggression.