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Should Haris Sohail be picked for the 1st Test against Australia?

  • Yes, he is a fine Test player and will do well in match

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  • No, he in terrible form and cannot be risked

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it's just me or do you guys feel same he seems to be terribly out of place not sure about form he can still time well but looks not involved at all in the field in celebration just simply pathetic attitude dropping catches & these kind of attitude can effect team moral .
i feel he is going through something mentally like most players coming out now in aussie,PCB should have a talk with him or must keep a psychiatrist with this team.
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He came into limelight with his two heroic innings in the WC and earned a reputation of the 2nd best bat in pak team.

Austraila tour is a living nightmare for him wrongly selected in T20 format and poor performance in tour match.


Team must get behind him and he himself must get his thinking and footwork right.
 
He is a lazy player who gets comfortable quickly. He loses focus when he doesn’t have to prove a point and starts to coast. He is someone who needs to be kept motivated at all times.
 
He has gained too much weight. Doesn't look fit enough.

Besides, everyone goes through a bad patch. He's a quality batsman and will rise again.
 
Just not able to pick the length on time on faster pitches, a fine bat otherwise especially in subcontinent.
 
The cricket enthusiast said:
it's just me or do you guys feel same he seems to be terribly out of place not sure about form he can still time well but looks not involved at all in the field in celebration just simply pathetic attitude dropping catches & these kind of attitude can effect team moral .
i feel he is going through something mentally like most players coming out now in aussie,PCB should have a talk with him or must keep a psychiatrist with this team.
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He is down in confidence probably because he is not in Misbah's good books. Just doesn't look fine mentally. Hopefully senior players like Azhar Ali and Asad Shafiq can give him that confidence.
 
SarfiBabarHaris said:
He is down in confidence probably because he is not in Misbah's good books. Just doesn't look fine mentally. Hopefully senior players like Azhar Ali and Asad Shafiq can give him that confidence.
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I think Misbah and Waqar rate him pretty highly which can be seen from the fact he was given a crucial position of no 3 in WC 2015 and remained part of the squad in those few years before getting injured.
 
Either something is bogging him down mentally or it is simply another case of lazy attitude.
 
In some days he looks a world beater but on most days he gets bogged too easily and can't score without taking big risks and it does not work. Needs to work on strike rotation and stop Croaching too much.
 
Tbh he has always looked weak against the short ball.
 
Has always had issues with bounce. Its not his fault that too much depends on him and he has to carry the team on his shoulders while Imams and Shafiqs get dismissed and play silly shots.

Everyone needs to carry responsibility.
 
Hes dead batting and waiting for a bad ball wont work in Australia like it did in UAE. His poor footwork and lack of judgement of playing length on bouncier wickets means hes always feeling for the ball which makes him a sitting duck in these conditions.
 
Mamoon said:
He is a lazy player who gets comfortable quickly. He loses focus when he doesn’t have to prove a point and starts to coast. He is someone who needs to be kept motivated at all times.
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You'd hope he feels he has a point to prove after the last 5 innings!!
 
Mamoon said:
He is a lazy player who gets comfortable quickly. He loses focus when he doesn’t have to prove a point and starts to coast. He is someone who needs to be kept motivated at all times.
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thats like every player problem from pakistan except babar.
just look at the likes of shadab,hassan,shehzad
everyone comfortable in their mind they are world beaters.

where's the problem lies?
 
SarfiBabarHaris said:
He is down in confidence probably because he is not in Misbah's good books. Just doesn't look fine mentally. Hopefully senior players like Azhar Ali and Asad Shafiq can give him that confidence.
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Azhar ali himself need some of that..
another non-performing captain appointed by PCB. or maybe his friend misbah
 
In terms of personality he has always been a sober kind of guy with not much emotions on the field.

If there is any physical issue it might be because of his knees.

Knee issue is possibly the worst issue a batsman can have. While all other physical issues cause more problems for fast bowlers with the energy and body they have to put in.

However, for batsmen knee issues can be as lethal as well considering they have to extend themselves for cover drives or even defensive shots and sweep shots go almost out of the window.

As it can be seen that Haris Sohail and Azhar Ali rarely play a sweep shot and I am not sure if they have played any in recent times.

Haris was much more aware and pro active in his younger days before getting knee injury around 2015-16. He was rated really highly since his Sialkot Stallions day and he didnt disappoint after debuting but his knees have let him down big time.

One of the most naturally gifted ODI and test batsman for Pak in last decade but knee issues can only be managed and there isnt a permanent solution.

He and Azhar shouldnt be fielding in the slips as they cant afford bending their knees on every single delivery.
 
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The cricket enthusiast said:
it's just me or do you guys feel same he seems to be terribly out of place not sure about form he can still time well but looks not involved at all in the field in celebration just simply pathetic attitude dropping catches & these kind of attitude can effect team moral .
i feel he is going through something mentally like most players coming out now in aussie,PCB should have a talk with him or must keep a psychiatrist with this team.
have your say
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He was wrongly thrust into the T20 side, Because of Hafeez and Shoaib being dropped with out finding proper replacements . Harris is a Test and Odi batsman. His confidence is obviously shattered at the moment. In my opnion a player like him, who is injury prone should be used in the format where he is good. Not waste him in T20s.
 
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]

A petty lame and lazy analysis, if we can call that.

Harry is a class player with only one weakness and that is short pitch bowl on his body but apart from that he has near perfevt game.

It seems he has got too pre occupied with that and that has messed up his front foot play.

He should just play his game. If you watch highlight of 2018 kiwis tour he played likes of freguson with ease.

Selecting for T20 was such a horrendous decusion as he tried those hooks pulls or ugly swipe on leg side which was never his game

Harry is class lets not be in tearing hurry to pour all B negative slush on him too soon
 
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Titan24 said:
In terms of personality he has always been a sober kind of guy with not much emotions on the field.

If there is any physical issue it might be because of his knees.

Knee issue is possibly the worst issue a batsman can have. While all other physical issues cause more problems for fast bowlers with the energy and body they have to put in.

However, for batsmen knee issues can be as lethal as well considering they have to extend themselves for cover drives or even defensive shots and sweep shots go almost out of the window.

As it can be seen that Haris Sohail and Azhar Ali rarely play a sweep shot and I am not sure if they have played any in recent times.

Haris was much more aware and pro active in his younger days before getting knee injury around 2015-16. He was rated really highly since his Sialkot Stallions day and he didnt disappoint after debuting but his knees have let him down big time.

One of the most naturally gifted ODI and test batsman for Pak in last decade but knee issues can only be managed and there isnt a permanent solution.

He and Azhar shouldnt be fielding in the slips as they cant afford bending their knees on every single delivery.
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maybe they can take some motivation from Shoaib Akhtar.
 
fight_club said:
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]

A petty lame and lazy analysis, if we can call that.

Harry is a class player with only one weakness and that is short pitch bowl on his body but apart from that he has near perfevt game.

It seems he has got too pre occupied with that and that has messed up his front foot play.

He should just play his game. If you watch highlight of 2018 kiwis tour he played likes of freguson with ease.

Selecting for T20 was such a horrendous decusion as he tried those hooks pulls or ugly swipe on leg side which was never his game

Harry is class lets not be in tearing hurry to pour all B negative slush on him too soon
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lets chuck about his batting for a moment .
what im more concerned about his involvement & contribution as a team player.
have you watched recently concluded wc & if you've followed kiwis their opener Guptill was in terrible form but he use to make it up by his fielding & involvement on field .
as a senior player his presence alone should atleast motivate youngster who is making their debuts and playing their first tours on foreign land. what message he is sending to those teenage youngsters?
thats what this topic is about nothing about his batting..
i want him to contribute on field as a player make an impact as a senior player .
 
The cricket enthusiast said:
lets chuck about his batting for a moment .
what im more concerned about his involvement & contribution as a team player.
have you watched recently concluded wc & if you've followed kiwis their opener Guptill was in terrible form but he use to make it up by his fielding & involvement on field .
as a senior player his presence alone should atleast motivate youngster who is making their debuts and playing their first tours on foreign land. what message he is sending to those teenage youngsters?
thats what this topic is about nothing about his batting..
i want him to contribute on field as a player make an impact as a senior player .
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Well, i have no arguments their. However harry is quite sort of guy not known for being atheltic or demostrative.

We all could see he looked down and out on the field and will need a lift himself.

Cricket can be very harsh at times so can be life
 
He's bad against the short ball and extra bounce nd he has been found out in these coditions. I have no doubt that he will perform against Sri Lanka, but he can't play against Australia. He can't play the short ball, and it also effects his footwork so he easily edges off against pacers off the full ball after receiving a short ball.

He is also very unfit, I know he has a knee problem, but he looks worse than before. His laziness is also effecting his batting and fielding. He doesn't move his feet and chases the wide ones. In the slips he doesn't use his feet.
 
He is really suspect against the short ball, I actually would not play him in the starting 11 for this reason
 
He’s not as bad as everyone is making out against the short ball. He ducks and weaves mostly and knows when to. Doesn’t have a great pull shot and that’s why he opts not to play it much in Test cricket. In T20s and shorter formats he’s forced to play shots at those deliveries and thus looks awkward. The likes of Imam are much worse against the short pitched bowling than Haris.

He’s just lost some confidence but will be starting the 1st Test if he gets runs in the 2nd warm up.
 
I hear that he isn't the hardest worker in training. The description of him as being 'lazy' probably fits well.
 
If i remember correctly, Haris is the greatest player of swing and seam according to some posters before. Is that not the case now?
 
fight_club said:
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]

A petty lame and lazy analysis, if we can call that.

Harry is a class player with only one weakness and that is short pitch bowl on his body but apart from that he has near perfevt game.

It seems he has got too pre occupied with that and that has messed up his front foot play.

He should just play his game. If you watch highlight of 2018 kiwis tour he played likes of freguson with ease.

Selecting for T20 was such a horrendous decusion as he tried those hooks pulls or ugly swipe on leg side which was never his game

Harry is class lets not be in tearing hurry to pour all B negative slush on him too soon
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No, he's actually on point with his assessment there. Anyone I've spoken to who has seen Haris during prematch drills has confirmed that he's someone who doesn't necessarily take the initiative and is inherently lazy. Guys like Rizwan and Shan Masood for all their limitations put that extra oomph into their training sessions while Haris for all his talents does only the bare minimum.

He's from a mold of the mid-2000s generation and extremely similar to in nature of Sarfaraz - Once he's in his comfort zone, it's very hard for him to get going until there's a literally knife hanging for his national spot.
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
No, he's actually on point with his assessment there. Anyone I've spoken to who has seen Haris during prematch drills has confirmed that he's someone who doesn't necessarily take the initiative and is inherently lazy. Guys like Rizwan and Shan Masood for all their limitations put that extra oomph into their training sessions while Haris for all his talents does only the bare minimum.

He's from a mold of the mid-2000s generation and extremely similar to in nature of Sarfaraz - Once he's in his comfort zone, it's very hard for him to get going until there's a literally knife hanging for his national spot.
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Inzi allegedly when captain, use to sit on a chair during training while the boys practiced(lol!).
 
He is class player but I think Misbah-ul-Haq has been on his case for being lazy and it’s effecting him. Misbah-ul-Haq should leave him alone and encourage him like grant flower and Mickey
 
Too early to drop him. He has done enough recently in tests and ODIs to get the whole Australian series. Players like him can always come back with a bang just like he did against South Africa in the world cup.
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
No, he's actually on point with his assessment there. Anyone I've spoken to who has seen Haris during prematch drills has confirmed that he's someone who doesn't necessarily take the initiative and is inherently lazy. Guys like Rizwan and Shan Masood for all their limitations put that extra oomph into their training sessions while Haris for all his talents does only the bare minimum.

He's from a mold of the mid-2000s generation and extremely similar to in nature of Sarfaraz - Once he's in his comfort zone, it's very hard for him to get going until there's a literally knife hanging for his national spot.
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Is his batting woes due to his laziness or its a technical issue??

He has never been an athelete but this lad is a class batsmen had serious knee issues but laziness has nothing to do with his current batting form

Their is a difference between analysis and Drivel
 
The_Odd_One said:
Too early to drop him. He has done enough recently in tests and ODIs to get the whole Australian series. Players like him can always come back with a bang just like he did against South Africa in the world cup.
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I agree. I don't think there's anything wrong with his skills or his ability in these conditions. We've have all seem him do well in similar conditions before. He seems to be going through some sort of mental adjustment issue. I think it's the T20 thrust he wasn't ready for but can't say really. This is why we need to have sports mental conditioning coach or a psychologist with the team. Players have these mental patches at times and they can be worked out.
 
Poll added - Should he be picked for the 1st Test?
 
I think Haris should be in Test side. Batting in Australia is always difficult for Asian batsmen. Haris should be given a lengthy run.

He shouldn't play T20 though.
 
Looks like a walking wicket at the moment.

The problem is that he will have been one of the certain picks going into the 1st Test, before the warm-up matches.
 
Saj said:
Looks like a walking wicket at the moment.

The problem is that he will have been one of the certain picks going into the 1st Test, before the warm-up matches.
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misbah must make the bold call & drop sohail & select imam to open with maqsood & azhar as one down .. thats his best position.
 
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its one thing to hit a bad patch, but u know how hes gonna get out, he could get in be on twenty odd and lazily poke at a 5th stump ball and nick off. yes hes had knee problems, but running aint the only way to lose weight, you can swim, you can do resistance bikes, etc, etc, but this dude is still chubby.

hes an amazing timer and in my opinion pbly the second best batsmen in the team after babar, but he lacks mental toughness and professionalism, until he sorts out what he really wants he'll always be a nice looking but ultimately frustrating batsmen.
 
He has a lazy elegance about him, if he could add some intensity and focus to his game he would be even better. Can’t really do much about his knees.

Good player when on form though. Should play against Australia.
 
Misery of Haris continues.

Clearly out of form. It is a shame because he was looking good during the WC.
 
Mentality. If you don’t want to be a top player you won’t become one.
 
Don't know why he was played this game after his consistent failures on this tour. Now if he's standing at first slip and drops a catch later in this game, I am going to lose my mind
 
Quite a loose shot to get out. You cant drive uppishly to that sort of delivery

Very ordinary and diappointing
 
Has been playing like a tailender the whole tour. Would have rather had Imam and Shan at the top folowed by Azhar rather than Haris who has been absolutely abysmal.
 
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Has been playing like a tailender the whole tour. Would have rather had Imam and Shan at the top folowed by Azhar rather than Haris who has been absolutely abysmal.
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im furious with his selection are they blind?
cant they see his body language his form his attitude?
imam over him any day ..
dont forget his horrendous fielding get ready for drop catches
 
He did not deserve to be selected. Present current form over everything
 
Just so that I am clear, Misbah used form on this tour to select Imran but decided to persist with Haris? Doesn’t sound particularly consistent
 
Non serious. Should be dropped to teach a lesson. Has recently transformed from our most technically elegant batsman to a bat-throwing foot-planting sloth.
 
Laziness, in his attitude and his game, his foot work is almost non-existent.

He's better than this, it's time he puts his head down and plays with full focus and stops being so lazy. We have seen how good Haris is before, he has the talent, he needs to work harder.
 
Mickey Arthur on Haris Sohail:

"When Haris Sohail walked out, his body language said it wasn't going to happen. In the A game, he got out twice in the same way. He's an incredible player and will make significant contributions to Pakistan in future. When he's playing well, there's nobody better to watch. But he's getting caught on the crease, getting out to the short ball. He's thinking back and his back foot isn't making any movement to cover the off stump and he flays away with his bat which leaves him open to nicking to the slips cordon"
 
Babar and Haris are our best batters. Both not doing well. Sad.

Of course, people will criticize Haris and hate on him. Without realizing he's the best we have.

Just a bad patch.
 
Mamoon said:
He is a lazy player who gets comfortable quickly. He loses focus when he doesn’t have to prove a point and starts to coast. He is someone who needs to be kept motivated at all times.
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How to keep him motivated.
 
Lazy, poor attitude, unfit & overrated.

Side effects of being smoker?
 
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Haris is no where near best bat i understand with Babz..and baz was just an awful shot ..harish should be dropped full stop
 
I was very surprised to see that Haris was selected.

Imam should have been played over him. Haris has failed in every single innings this tour. Why on earth would you pick him? It's not like he's some 50 averaging batsman in test cricket or something.
 
Should have been kept away from T20s after World Cup. It was never his format to begin with and now his confidence is down.

These airy fairy shots outside off stump early on is asking for trouble. He just needs to go back to basics and focus on spending time at the crease.
 
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Never a T20 player and you can question his ability in ODI's as well, but he has always been a strong contender for the longest format and easily the best in this squad.

However, it seems the long injury lay off and not enough FC games has hindered his ability in this format.

Shouldn't have been selected for the T20 series and instead should have been playing FC to regain his touch in the longest format.
 
Seriously knee jerk reactions!
First of all we need to stop confusing formats. Haris performed very poorly in the 3 t20 matches, but they were a different format. You cant drop somebody from the test side because they had a poor T20 series just like you would not pick somebody for the test side based on T20 performances.

Secondly he did not really play well in the warm ups either but again you cant really drop someone based on that given their credentials.

Thirdly and most importantly Haris scored 140 odd two tests ago. He did not play in the Sout African series. So how can anyone warrant him being dropped.

Having said that he is not doing himself any favours and needs to up his game, but calls for him to be dropped even from the first test are way to premature. Players get in to bad form they need to be given time to get out of it.
 
He has a laziness about him. This isnt a good thing as he hasn't achieved much in international cricket. He needs to just score runs and play balls on merit rather than trying to play fancy shots.

Would not drop him yet.
 
Looks short of confidence and the Aussies have got a solid plan for him.

Let's see what he's made of.
 
He's a class player similar to Babar, lets not get ahead of ourselves and start being fickle, I had faith in Azam since 2012 and in Harris for ages, he will come good.
 
He is just out of form. In form he would be thriving on this tour, such is his class.

He did not deserve selection based on his terrible form. A very poor decision by Misbah and Azhar.
 
This scenario seems similar to that of Nasir Jamshed. Nasir got found by SA, BADLY, and just lost it after that series. Haris looks completely lost starting from the T20 series and never looked like he got used to the Aussie conditions. All 3 dismissal of his are from the Australian bouncy pitches.

I would wait and see how he fairs in the 2nd inning, but if the result's the same then I would play Abid as 1 down. Just my 2 cents. :abbas
 
No.3 is not working for him. Drop Ifti chacha, play an extra opener at no.3 and Haris can bat at 6.
 
It looks like he is not able to adjust in with the pace an bounce in Australia, also he is experimenting too much with his technique. He should stick to basics even playing T20 and play his natural game.
 
Out of form and technically poor on bouncy wickets, i cant see him scoring any meaningful runs in australia.
 
Owes Pakistan a big hundred in the second innings of this Test.
 
Hangs his bat to dry - gone - poor poor shot once again - think his tour's over.
 
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