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A video of Pakistan's wicketkeeper-batter Mohammad Rizwan giving a sermon at a mosque in Christchurch has gone viral.

Pakistan men's team is in New Zealand for a tri-series where they have managed to win both games.

The 30-year-old, in his sermon, spoke about having complete faith in Allah. He advised attendees to devote their time, money, and lives for Allah's cause.

Middle-order batter Iftikhar Ahmed was also present at the mosque. Later, the cricketers took selfies with the fans and engaged with them
 
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[MENTION=8]MIG[/MENTION] same masjid where the awful terrorist attack took place?

Good on Rizwan for speaking and inspiring others. Hope he sticks to the basics and doesnt attempt to lecture of Islamic theology.
 
I may not admire his T20 batting but I actually admire his religious views on Allah, existence of God and the purpose of life. I have no doubt in my heart that he is a real Aashiq-e-Rasool
 
Great ambassador for Pakistan cricket and the nation of Pakistan.
 
Leather jacket and no hat. Rockstar Maulvi.


Jk, love this guy but surprised he's been given the mimbar used for khutbah
 
[MENTION=8]MIG[/MENTION] same masjid where the awful terrorist attack took place?

Good on Rizwan for speaking and inspiring others. Hope he sticks to the basics and doesnt attempt to lecture of Islamic theology.

Not sure - didnt look like a big place.
 
He always tries carry religion up his sleeve and tries to portray himself as being very pious and self-righteous.

He is very popular on social media where there are compilations of him refusing to make eye contact with women and such compilations are inundated with praise. However, he had no problem helping Sarah Taylor with her keeping skills, talking with her and being jovial when there were no cameras.

He is putting on a big show because religion sells in Pakistan. Another example of a celebrity using religion to whitewash their future poor performance and make themselves immune from criticism.
 
He always tries carry religion up his sleeve and tries to portray himself as being very pious and self-righteous.

He is very popular on social media where there are compilations of him refusing to make eye contact with women and such compilations are inundated with praise. However, he had no problem helping Sarah Taylor with her keeping skills, talking with her and being jovial when there were no cameras.

He is putting on a big show because religion sells in Pakistan. Another example of a celebrity using religion to whitewash their future poor performance and make themselves immune from criticism.

Stop judging others.
 
Leading namaz as well Rizwan.

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Its certainly linked his growing faith and his mentality when batting.

The likes of Mohammed Yousuf, Hashim Amla both devout Muslims, showed the most immense mental strength seen in recent cricket history.

Not just cricketers, the elite sportsmen in many many sports have had Muslims in their ranks. Many the GOAT.
 
Its certainly linked his growing faith and his mentality when batting.

The likes of Mohammed Yousuf, Hashim Amla both devout Muslims, showed the most immense mental strength seen in recent cricket history.

Not just cricketers, the elite sportsmen in many many sports have had Muslims in their ranks. Many the GOAT.

Yup.

It seems to be helping him with performance.

Same with Adil Rashid and Moeen Ali.
 
Its certainly linked his growing faith and his mentality when batting.

The likes of Mohammed Yousuf, Hashim Amla both devout Muslims, showed the most immense mental strength seen in recent cricket history.

Not just cricketers, the elite sportsmen in many many sports have had Muslims in their ranks. Many the GOAT.

Yup.

It seems to be helping him with performance.

Same with Adil Rashid and Moeen Ali.

Yousuf, Amla and Moeen were (are) serial bottlers in high pressure tournament games. Amla never performed in tourneys, Yousuf barely performed in tourneys and Moeen had to be kicked out of the England team in the middle of the 2019 World Cup so that they could get back on track.
 
He always tries carry religion up his sleeve and tries to portray himself as being very pious and self-righteous.

He is very popular on social media where there are compilations of him refusing to make eye contact with women and such compilations are inundated with praise. However, he had no problem helping Sarah Taylor with her keeping skills, talking with her and being jovial when there were no cameras.

He is putting on a big show because religion sells in Pakistan. Another example of a celebrity using religion to whitewash their future poor performance and make themselves immune from criticism.

Totally agree. Along with exaggerating cramps, this is part of his gimmick/persona.
 
Its certainly linked his growing faith and his mentality when batting.

The likes of Mohammed Yousuf, Hashim Amla both devout Muslims, showed the most immense mental strength seen in recent cricket history.

Not just cricketers, the elite sportsmen in many many sports have had Muslims in their ranks. Many the GOAT.

There are many successful Muslims athletes but there are also many successful athletes that follow a different religion or are atheists.

Will you attribute their success to their faith or lack of faith, or is that only a contributing factor when you are a Muslim?

Being a Muslim will not help you in sports or any worldly affair. Neither will any other religion or atheism.

To excel in sports you need talent and hard work. If you are lacking in either of two, your religious beliefs will not compensate.

Shane Warne spent his life drinking alcohol and womanizing and he was a million times better spinner than Moeen who is very religious and pious.

If being a Muslim was key to worldly success then Muslims would be highly successful people and Pakistan and Bangladesh would have been the two best cricket teams.
 
Rather this than some of the antics we have seen in the past from some Pakistani cricketers.

I recall a friend of mine telling me that he came across some Pakistani cricketers on tour in Kenya - they were completely lost, very drunk and didn't even have enough money for a taxi back to the hotel. My friend gave them a lift to their hotel as they could have been mugged at any moment.

I know which situation I prefer seeing Pakistani cricketers in.
 
There are many successful Muslims athletes but there are also many successful athletes that follow a different religion or are atheists.

Will you attribute their success to their faith or lack of faith, or is that only a contributing factor when you are a Muslim?

Being a Muslim will not help you in sports or any worldly affair. Neither will any other religion or atheism.

To excel in sports you need talent and hard work. If you are lacking in either of two, your religious beliefs will not compensate.

Shane Warne spent his life drinking alcohol and womanizing and he was a million times better spinner than Moeen who is very religious and pious.

If being a Muslim was key to worldly success then Muslims would be highly successful people and Pakistan and Bangladesh would have been the two best cricket teams.

It would help if you actually played sport and werent so anti-Muslim esp those with beards. When you start off on this foot, you will always be confused.

Many things can help an athlete to perform far better than excpected. Some it might be their parents, some their background and some their faith. In this case their faith has helped.

It really is simple, stop the hate and you will see clearly.
 
It would help if you actually played sport and werent so anti-Muslim esp those with beards. When you start off on this foot, you will always be confused.

Many things can help an athlete to perform far better than excpected. Some it might be their parents, some their background and some their faith. In this case their faith has helped.

It really is simple, stop the hate and you will see clearly.

Mohamed Salah is a good example.
 
Mohamed Salah is a good example.

Agree. There are so many who excel further than they would have because of the power of their faith. Salah, Mane both were humble , sincere guys, they both excelled so much LFC out of nowhere won both the PL and Champions League, even Pep & City havent done this.

We of course have the greatest athlete of all time, Mohammed Ali in boxing and arguably the greatest MMA in Khabib.

Rizwan is a mental monster, if Pak had more players with his mind, they'd be capable of wining a lot more.
 
Sorry if that was the case then one religion would dominate. The sports section dominated by all religions or atheists. It all comes down to hard work and natural talent. Not which imaginary being in the sky u believe in, or not believe in.
 
Rather this than some of the antics we have seen in the past from some Pakistani cricketers.

I recall a friend of mine telling me that he came across some Pakistani cricketers on tour in Kenya - they were completely lost, very drunk and didn't even have enough money for a taxi back to the hotel. My friend gave them a lift to their hotel as they could have been mugged at any moment.

I know which situation I prefer seeing Pakistani cricketers in.

There was a double wicket tournament where players from all nations came to play in. I think this Was 2000 . Was in jersey. There was a party and a fashion show after the tournament. I will not Mamés ( ever) but some of these mullah types were with prostitutes/ female fans. These were married men making out with women. Religion sells in Pakistan. Piety sells in Pakistan
 
Yousuf, Amla and Moeen were (are) serial bottlers in high pressure tournament games. Amla never performed in tourneys, Yousuf barely performed in tourneys and Moeen had to be kicked out of the England team in the middle of the 2019 World Cup so that they could get back on track.

MoYo played a grand total of TWO ICC knockout games. One of which he top scored with 45 against NZ in the 2009 CT SF.

Not a huge sample size is it?
 
firstly he is a hafiz and not some hafiz who memorised and then never revises or has forgotten

I had literally seen him in a hotel late at night, when no cameras or fans or anyone. The man had his son on his shoulders as the boy was unable to sleep and he was walking up and down the corridor and reciting his quran. Fulfilling his father's duty, revising his quran and all of this on a match day.

And he did that easily for an hour non stop. Who was he trying to show? Me? I was one person, a nobody, who quietly went out to get dinner, came back an hour later and the chap was still at it.

This is not a story that I heard off someone else, something I had seen with my own eyes.
 
Don't see what problem some posters have. He is preaching in a mosque. Not on the cricket field.
 
It would help if you actually played sport and werent so anti-Muslim esp those with beards. When you start off on this foot, you will always be confused.

Many things can help an athlete to perform far better than excpected. Some it might be their parents, some their background and some their faith. In this case their faith has helped.

It really is simple, stop the hate and you will see clearly.

It isn’t, you keep dancing around the main point because you cannot justify it. You are delusional and cannot think beyond the religion that you only follow because you were born into it.

You didn’t choose to be a Muslim. The chance of life choose you.

Please answer this question. Why is faith a contributing factor only when you are a Muslim with a beard?

Please prove that Amla and Yousuf were successful because of their faith and not because they were very good players.

Do you think Amla would have been a lesser player if he didn’t have a beard or if he wasn’t Muslim? If so, please provide evidence.
 
MoYo played a grand total of TWO ICC knockout games. One of which he top scored with 45 against NZ in the 2009 CT SF.

Not a huge sample size is it?

I think he himself was a big factor in why he and Pakistan got to play very few knockout games in his career. He didn’t perform well in tournaments.
 
Mohamed Salah is a good example.

How?

There are many Egyptian and Muslim footballers in general who are more pious and religious than Salah but are nowhere near as good as he is. Why? How come their faith is not helping them?

Besides, Salah is not even that religious neither does he advertise his religion. Just because he has a beard doesn’t make him religious.

He celebrates Christmas every year and cops a lot of criticism from Muslim fans but he doesn’t stop doing it.

You are not making any point here. You are conveniently crediting faith for the success of a Muslim athlete but crediting hard work and talent for the success of non-Muslims athletes.
 
Agree. There are so many who excel further than they would have because of the power of their faith. Salah, Mane both were humble , sincere guys, they both excelled so much LFC out of nowhere won both the PL and Champions League, even Pep & City havent done this.

:)))

Van Dijk, Trent, Fabinho and Alisson were as crucial (if not more) to Liverpool’s success as Salah and Mane. I had no idea they were Muslims too.

There are thousands of professional footballers in the world. There are perhaps only 4-5 who are among the best in the world. I’m sure hundreds, if not thousands, of these pro Muslim footballers are religious, sincere and humble but their faith is not helping them reach the top.

Why? Because it has nothing to do with your success as an athlete. You need talent and hard work to be successful, not faith. If faith was such a contributing factor, Muslim football teams would be winning World Cups left, right and center.
 
If being pious, religious or self-righteous was a factor in competency, Muslims would not be flocking to the West in search of a better life and Pakistan would be the best country on this planet.

The problem is Muslims especially Pakistanis always involve religion into worldly matters. When Pakistan wins against India, its a win for Islam but what happens when India wins? Is it a win for Hinduism?

We need to work hard and improve our skills instead of relying on Takdeer, dua and mazhab.
 
man gives a religius talk, one group hails him a hero, other a fake, if there was ever a thread which showed whats wrong with Pakistani thought patterns in general, this is it. lol

in reality, it makes no difference but if it makes him happy why should anyone else care?
 
This is getting overcomplicated in some of the replies. If religion helps MR with his performance on a mental level, then that’s fine because that’s what works for him. Many things can enhance or affect performance. It’s what works for the individual athlete that matters.
 
man gives a religius talk, one group hails him a hero, other a fake, if there was ever a thread which showed whats wrong with Pakistani thought patterns in general, this is it. lol

in reality, it makes no difference but if it makes him happy why should anyone else care?

This is the problem with social media in general, I am not particularly interested in his religious speeches, or where he gives them as long as they aren't causing a public nuisance, but it is always very telling which groups turn up here to defend and attack. There will be the proud Muslims who will be delighted, and the Hindutvas sans cheerleaders who really shouldn't have any interest at all in this stuff. But of course they very much do for some reason.
 
This is getting overcomplicated in some of the replies. If religion helps MR with his performance on a mental level, then that’s fine because that’s what works for him. Many things can enhance or affect performance. It’s what works for the individual athlete that matters.

Agree, the pertinent point of this OP is lost in translation.

For me, religion is always personal, which is why what MR does in his spare time is his business and no one elses, which leads me to my question, why is the OP even news? Moreover why aren't the private activities of other Pak players news?

Having conviction of a faith is a wonderful thing, but I feel it should be kept private, even if it helps an individual succeed (Saleh, Amla, Ali, Rashid, Rizwan et al), but some people feel MR advertises his conviction, on and off the field, and like many, I don't agree with this.
 
:)))

Van Dijk, Trent, Fabinho and Alisson were as crucial (if not more) to Liverpool’s success as Salah and Mane. I had no idea they were Muslims too.

There are thousands of professional footballers in the world. There are perhaps only 4-5 who are among the best in the world. I’m sure hundreds, if not thousands, of these pro Muslim footballers are religious, sincere and humble but their faith is not helping them reach the top.

Why? Because it has nothing to do with your success as an athlete. You need talent and hard work to be successful, not faith. If faith was such a contributing factor, Muslim football teams would be winning World Cups left, right and center.

Faith can be an invisible band aid when a person is down. You need something to believe in that somehow things will get better. If it means imaginary friend or guardian angel or God. Whichever works. Ultimately, results matter.
 
Man I swear 80% of these lectures have the same message and same verbiage even

This was the thing I found odd about this.

Not Rizwans religiosity or him preaching in a masjid.

But the fact that these Alif, Ba , Taa type speeches that should be common knowledge for a muslim of the age of 5 years old are so common and that grown men need to make/listen to these speeches.
 
Faith can be an invisible band aid when a person is down. You need something to believe in that somehow things will get better. If it means imaginary friend or guardian angel or God. Whichever works. Ultimately, results matter.

Indeed faith is very powerful.

A child who loses his father can seek solace over the belief that the father is now in a better place instead of becoming a feast for microorganisms.

Mothers of soldiers who died fighting for their country take solace over the belief that their son was a martyr and will be in the highest ranks of paradise.

But faith will not help you when it comes to excelling in sports or any field. If that was so then Muslims would be excelling in every field instead of lagging behind in every field.

Muslims have this tendency of bringing religion into everything and crediting faith for the success of a Muslim but do not apply the same to people who are successful but follow other religion, or no religion at all.

A disbeliever will be more successful in his field if he is talented/skilled and hardworking than a believer who lacks on these fronts, which simply proves that faith plays no part in the success of worldly affairs.
 
Indeed faith is very powerful.

A child who loses his father can seek solace over the belief that the father is now in a better place instead of becoming a feast for microorganisms.

Mothers of soldiers who died fighting for their country take solace over the belief that their son was a martyr and will be in the highest ranks of paradise.

But faith will not help you when it comes to excelling in sports or any field. If that was so then Muslims would be excelling in every field instead of lagging behind in every field.

Muslims have this tendency of bringing religion into everything and crediting faith for the success of a Muslim but do not apply the same to people who are successful but follow other religion, or no religion at all.

A disbeliever will be more successful in his field if he is talented/skilled and hardworking than a believer who lacks on these fronts, which simply proves that faith plays no part in the success of worldly affairs.

But besides his faith Rizwan has also worked hard on his game. It's not that after a game he just sits on a prayer mat or preaches others towards religion etc. He has really put on the hard work. If he believes that faith in the Almighty has disciplined him in his cricket as well as in life than it's all good.
 
Rather this than some of the antics we have seen in the past from some Pakistani cricketers.

I recall a friend of mine telling me that he came across some Pakistani cricketers on tour in Kenya - they were completely lost, very drunk and didn't even have enough money for a taxi back to the hotel. My friend gave them a lift to their hotel as they could have been mugged at any moment.

I know which situation I prefer seeing Pakistani cricketers in.

1999 rockstars?
 
But besides his faith Rizwan has also worked hard on his game. It's not that after a game he just sits on a prayer mat or preaches others towards religion etc. He has really put on the hard work. If he believes that faith in the Almighty has disciplined him in his cricket as well as in life than it's all good.

one thing which often gets overlooked with rizwan. i remember him speaking of how his (I'm paraphrasing) work ethic is his attempt to make his salary "halal", kinda sounds like the old protestant work ethic, of work being a form of religious obligation.
 
Good to see Rizwan triggering a few here.

Some of them have written essays of disapproval, and I'm not sure about what. If it was Saqlain or Mushtaq Ahmed, or some of the other players turned maulvis, I could agree, a lot of those generation seemed to lose a bit of competitive edge when they turned to religion, but Rizwan is arguably Pakistan's best all round batsman, and definitely one of the most combative. Pick a different thread about Islam if you want to have a pop.
 
Better off concentrating on not losing finals for Pakistan. Few decent knocks and lose perspective. You ain't won nothing lad focus in your cricket.
 
Mohammad Rizwan delivered a lecture in a Melbourne mosque today

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Is anyone, who speaks about the positives of his religion, a Tablighi? Is a label necessary?

Wearing a cap and t shirt doing khutbah is a bit woke. Again, I just think the evangelist movement badly hindered Pakistani cricket
 
Wearing a cap and t shirt doing khutbah is a bit woke. Again, I just think the evangelist movement badly hindered Pakistani cricket

No idea bro what that means!

However, I will say this.

Pakistan arrived from Brisbane today and seems Rizwan, MoYo, Saqi and Iftikhar Ahmed went to a local mosque for this.

Not sure why/how team management is allowing this? Security etc?
 
No idea bro what that means!



However, I will say this.

Pakistan arrived from Brisbane today and seems Rizwan, MoYo, Saqi and Iftikhar Ahmed went to a local mosque for this.

Not sure why/how team management is allowing this? Security etc?

Why would security be an issue in Australia ?
 
As long as he does not enforce his views on others he is doing a good thing. Just never want to see the Tablighi culture in the Pak team where growing an Islamic beard meant you were guaranteed to play.
 
As long as he does not enforce his views on others he is doing a good thing. Just never want to see the Tablighi culture in the Pak team where growing an Islamic beard meant you were guaranteed to play.
I think what you are saying happens all the time.
 
I would predict that if you tow the religious line you are in the good books of the management. I think Shoaib akhtar has commented on that a few times.
 
Mohammad Rizwan delivered a lecture in a Melbourne mosque today

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This is the same sermon that I heard growing up in Hong Kong from Pakistani preachers and tableeghis. The next step is to ask the those in attendance to raise their hands if they want to go on a 3-day tableegh. The same script is used worldwide!
 
Team management need to stop players from doing this. They are on a cricket tour not a tableegh tour. In some countries converting others is against the law and this can get them in trouble, especially because Muslims believe themselves to be superior than other religions
 
Team management need to stop players from doing this. They are on a cricket tour not a tableegh tour. In some countries converting others is against the law and this can get them in trouble, especially because Muslims believe themselves to be superior than other religions

He was asked to speak, he did.

No point dumping your own issues with Islam on him. He will do as he pleases - as long as it is within the laws of the country.
 
He was asked to speak, he did.

No point dumping your own issues with Islam on him. He will do as he pleases - as long as it is within the laws of the country.
the circus can ask him to perform, will he do it?

why would i have issues with Islam. Rizwan has been selected to represent the country on the cricket field. He is being paid a salary, being provided with air fare and given accommodation for it.

So he should fulfill those duties. The state has not sent him on a Tablighi quest. If he wants to do tableegh, give sermons and be involved in converting people on lands where it is against the law, he should do it when he is not sent on national duty.

No issues when he himself follows the religion, does his obligations or even pray on the field in between a match. But this is not alright.

The PCB was lax during Inzi's time, and it got out of hand, and if PCB doesnt stop Rizwan, this again could get out hand.
 
They are there to perform in a World Cup . Should be focused on that. I dont see any other team doing this kinda stuff. Once the World Cup is over he should do tablighi as much as he wants .
 
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They are there to perform in a World Cup . Should be focused on that. I dont see any other team doing this kinda stuff. Once the World Cup is over he should do tablighi as much as he wants .

What these players do on their own time outside of training and games should be nobody's business. They can go sight seeing or engage in preaching, who cares. Just do your job and stop complaining if they are doing theirs.
 
What these players do on their own time outside of training and games should be nobody's business. They can go sight seeing or engage in preaching, who cares. Just do your job and stop complaining if they are doing theirs.

Thats correct they can do whatever they like in their free time. However World Cup starts today. Maybe Should be planning for the world cup . There is a reason you dont see any other player from any other country doing this.Piety is a big business in Pakistan
 
if someone go for shopping or clubing in free time i dont think people will mind that, thn why people are complaining about it ?
 
if someone go for shopping or clubing in free time i dont think people will mind that, thn why people are complaining about it ?

These people have issues with Islam....but don't have the courage to say it openly so they resort to taking digs at every practicing Muslim by giving them labels like 'Maulvi, Tableeghi, etc'
 
These people have issues with Islam....but don't have the courage to say it openly so they resort to taking digs at every practicing Muslim by giving them labels like 'Maulvi, Tableeghi, etc'

I have a problem with Tableeghii Jamat and its insidious destruction of Pakistani cricket.

Sarfraz was religious within dressing room and got picked on
 
if someone go for shopping or clubing in free time i dont think people will mind that, thn why people are complaining about it ?

No one is complaining about Rizwan going to mosque. He can go there and pray, no issue.

But when he starts giving sermons on a foreign land than thats an issue. The reason he has a visa is because he is representing the state to play for the national team, not to go give sermons in a mosque.

During World Cups especially how you go around really matters. In 2007, Inzi and co were criticized by media because they had become overly religious and were more focused on tableegh and spreading Islam.

During the 2015 world cup, Moin Khan goes to Casino and after media finds out, he is sent back.

During 2019 World Cup, SHoaib Malik and co were eating unhealthy food and were spotted by people, with photos taken. After they lost to India, the team was criticized for being out and eating unhealthy.

Pray, not preach
 
MashAllah great use of free time by Rizwan.

To those who are accusing him of using religion, do u know the intention of rizwan? Does anyone know anyone's intention?

Those who are upset by rizwan preaching, would u be upset if he was pubbing and clubbing at the same time instead of preaching?

Is it illegal to go mosque and after the salah to address the congregation in the presence of learned scholars regarding Islam?

Is Rizwan not one of the hardest workers in the team and is he not the one who was in hospital before the WT20 game against India?
WAS HE ACTING IN HOSPITAL TOO?

Some anti Islamic members can't take anything islamic here. No surprise muslims are being humiliated in all 4 corners of the globe and Pakistan is in the mess it is in today..
 
Of course Rizwan is free to do what he did at these mosques, but it has to be pointed out that only Pakistani cricketers do this. Nobody from India, Australia, Bangladesh (another Muslim cricketing nation) have been seen spreading their religion to the far corners of the globe.
 
No one is complaining about Rizwan going to mosque. He can go there and pray, no issue.

But when he starts giving sermons on a foreign land than thats an issue. The reason he has a visa is because he is representing the state to play for the national team, not to go give sermons in a mosque.

During World Cups especially how you go around really matters. In 2007, Inzi and co were criticized by media because they had become overly religious and were more focused on tableegh and spreading Islam.

During the 2015 world cup, Moin Khan goes to Casino and after media finds out, he is sent back.

During 2019 World Cup, SHoaib Malik and co were eating unhealthy food and were spotted by people, with photos taken. After they lost to India, the team was criticized for being out and eating unhealthy.

Pray, not preach

Some basic issues with understanding Islam, am afraid.
 
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