[VIDEOS] Should Mohammad Asif be recalled to the Test side based on performances in the QEA Trophy?

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[Big Mac]

Suddenly, Shan Masood doesn't look so bad...

 

[Big Mac]

Just realised his last wicket is PPs favourite, Arsal Sheikh

 

[srh]

Suddenly, Shan Masood doesn't look so bad...

these left hand batsmen look horrible Shan's selection looks more like because the talent pool is very thin

 

[Mamoon]

How did these batsmen get into F/C cricket?

 

[Big Mac]

these left hand batsmen look horrible Shan's selection looks more like because the talent pool is very thin

Look at the first class records of the guys Asif dismissed...

 

[Abdullah719]

How did these batsmen get into F/C cricket?

Benefits of having 16 teams [MENTION=142670]mak36[/MENTION]

 

[Big Mac]

Benefits of having 16 teams [MENTION=142670]mak36[/MENTION]

Don't worry, next season it will be down to 12.

Then the season after that we'll have 18 teams.

Then 2020 will see it shrink down to 8.

Then we moan at the captain for not "developing talent"

I reckon I could get a first class game somewhere for one of these diddy teams. Slip a few rupees to the right hands and voila, I might be able to boast that I've got first class wickets.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

No

He is an amazing one of a kind player but his rap sheet is too big

 

[IMMY69]

Don't worry, next season it will be down to 12.

Then the season after that we'll have 18 teams.

Then 2020 will see it shrink down to 8.

Then we moan at the captain for not "developing talent"

I reckon I could get a first class game somewhere for one of these diddy teams. Slip a few rupees to the right hands and voila, I might be able to boast that I've got first class wickets.

I reckon if you can bowl it straight and up to the stumps at anything above 65mph you have a chance of picking up a 5-fer at some stage of the season..

 

[Big Mac]

I reckon if you can bowl it straight and up to the stumps at anything above 65mph you have a chance of picking up a 5-fer at some stage of the season..

I don't think I have it in me to bowl 65 mph

I bowl leg-spin but that shouldn't stop me from picking up a couple of wickets caught at cow corner.

 

[waleed88]

Well to think we don't play test matches until next year and this guy will be 36 by then if I'm not wrong

 

[waleed88]

How did these batsmen get into F/C cricket?

We can ask the same question when Mohammad Amir was getting those wickets for Essex. Ridiculous technique, free wickets for a bowler who can't get at International level

 

[Plumb]

Seriously? the pitch looks green. On top of that the batsmen?? did they start the batting order from tail enders or this is the lot we are producing of batsmen Scary!!!!!

 

[hadi123]

The opposition wasn't great so I wouldn't look too much into this performance. If he can perform consistently over this season and finish as one of the highest wicket takers then he should definitely be considered for a test recall. He's served his time for the crime and now any selection doubt should be on merit only, not from an ethical/morale/PR point of view. International cricket is a serious business and at the end of the day a nation should have the best available players playing for them.

 

[Savak]

I reckon if you can bowl it straight and up to the stumps at anything above 65mph you have a chance of picking up a 5-fer at some stage of the season..

Hamad Azam in one season picked up 60-70 wickets at a beastly average of 18 and then i saw him bowl in an international game for Pakistan in 2012-13 and was shocked to see him at 75-76 mph and realized that something is seriously wrong.

 

[Cric1234]

In international cricket green wickets see teams bowled out for 100-200 what do you expect domestic will be different and batsmen will score 100s on green mambas nobody can regularly.

 

[Saj]

His action just has not changed at all.

It's almost like he's playing at the start of his career.

 

[Cric1234]

With his action run up he can keep playing into his 40s there isn't much strain on his body and the action is smooth.

 

[Hawkeye]

Good skills, albeit on a green mamba.

 

[IAJ]

Suddenly, Shan Masood doesn't look so bad...

Quite a sample you used to come to this conclusion lol

 

[IAJ]

His action just has not changed at all.

It's almost like he's playing at the start of his career.

Exactly, had he just concentrated on his cricket just imagine how many test wickets he would have taken the last 7 years...

 

[Noman]

Exactly, had this fool concentrated more on his cricket just imagine how many test wickets he would have taken the last 7 years...

Well i Think he has a place in test cricket for pak

 

[Lefthanded]

If present Asif was Asif of the past, he would've been decimating batting lineups all season in the shocking FC talent pool on less helpful pitches.

These guys look like they were picked off a bus and given bats and pads at the ground.

On pure ability in the past, I'm a huge fan like most cricket fans.

 

[Junaids]

Good skills, albeit on a green mamba.

Which is what Pakistan have for their next two Tests, in rainy England in May.

I find myself wondering whether he should be brought back for 5 Tests only, as a horses-for-courses selection for the 2018 two Tests in England and 3 Tests in South Africa.

As [MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] said, his action hasn't changed one little bit, and he never had any pace to begin with. And he has single-handedly demolished the opposition in his last two First Class matches - and the previous one was the QEA Final, in which on the first day he single-handedly did this to Habib Bank's top order:

Imam-ul-Haq c Raees b Asif 5
Fakhar Zaman b Asif 4
Imran Farhat lbw b Asif 0

 

[msb314]

His action just has not changed at all.

It's almost like he's playing at the start of his career.

Is that good or bad?

Just curious haha

 

[Abdul]

No. We already have a crook in our side, don't need two just for the sake of it.

 

[khiska]

What a ridiculously stupid comment. Well done, sounds even more ridiculous when one reads your signature

 

[Saj]

Is that good or bad?

Just curious haha

He's got one of those actions which is so easy on the eye and takes nothing out of his body. Poetry in motion.

 

[cricketAXEpert]

these left hand batsmen look horrible Shan's selection looks more like because the talent pool is very thin

Talent Pool?? Shan Masood averages 23 + There are openers with 40 + average who are being overlooked. So Shan Masood son of PCB's Board of Director can keep on Playing.

 

[cricketAXEpert]

Yes Absolutely, Talent Wise Asif was superior of M. Amir

 

[Fahdi]

Don't worry, next season it will be down to 12.

Then the season after that we'll have 18 teams.

Then 2020 will see it shrink down to 8.

Then we moan at the captain for not "developing talent"

I reckon I could get a first class game somewhere for one of these diddy teams. Slip a few rupees to the right hands and voila, I might be able to boast that I've got first class wickets.

Then we will separate the departments from the regions. Them we will mix them again.

 

[MMHS]

Provided fitness, definitely. I don't think Abbas is faster than Asif even now, while skill wise it's not comparable. May be one last UK tour (for a joke of 2 Test series)

 

[aloo paratha]

Man this is low quality batting... Doubt he's bowling more than 120 kph. Only 2-3 wickets looked like they were wicket taking balls.

 

[BDwarriors]

asif should be in....

 

[Abdullah]

Tempting. Just for next 2 tests. Him Abbas and Amir. He could bowl 25 overs a day as well back in the day. Thats just what we need in a 4 man attack

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Could do wonders against New Zealand in January. But I doubt that Inzi will drop one of the current newbies in the squad.

 

[Abid Z]

Would love to see Asif back in the test team. One of the best produced by Pakistan and still easily better than most of the current bowlers

 

[msb314]

He's got one of those actions which is so easy on the eye and takes nothing out of his body. Poetry in motion.

Haha I know.

His action coincides with his lack of pace but he has immaculate control and is highly reverred by some of the best batsman of our time who have mentioned Mohd Asif is one of the best bowlers they have ever faced.
[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]

 

[muqarrab]

Wow....atrocious bowling but man his action has not changed much.....get back in

 

[Arham_PakFan]

A pity that he ruined his own career.

 

[JibranAnsari]

We prepare wickets like this in our domestic and then expect our fast bowlers to take wickets in UAE



The FC season should be shifted to march and april , you will get longer days and the wickets will be in much better conditions.

 

[Hawkeye]

Which is what Pakistan have for their next two Tests, in rainy England in May.

I find myself wondering whether he should be brought back for 5 Tests only, as a horses-for-courses selection for the 2018 two Tests in England and 3 Tests in South Africa.

As [MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] said, his action hasn't changed one little bit, and he never had any pace to begin with. And he has single-handedly demolished the opposition in his last two First Class matches - and the previous one was the QEA Final, in which on the first day he single-handedly did this to Habib Bank's top order:

Imam-ul-Haq c Raees b Asif 5
Fakhar Zaman b Asif 4
Imran Farhat lbw b Asif 0

Yeah, absolutely.

I'm all for him being picked for the U K tour.

 

[mak36]

Benefits of having 16 teams [MENTION=142670]mak36[/MENTION]

Master planner strikes again.

It's one thing not to make any improvements. But it's another to claim huge improvements are being made when in fact the evidence suggests otherwise. Hope is a killer.

Old issues continue, such as:

Too many teams
Regional/department disparity
Terrible, and I mean terrible, pitches
Cheap Dukes balls

etc.

 

[boomboom6]

No doubt about it. Asif's bowling style has never relied on pace anyway and he looks the same bowler as he was 7 years ago. Picking up 11 wickets in a match is no small feat. Basically his performance last season in the final and this match shows he still has it.

We absolutely need his services in test cricket. Our pace attack needs a leader. Amir should be benched for Asif. Asif-Abbas-Hasan is a damn good trio to pair w/Yasir. Post Mis-You, we need our bowling to be on the money more often since our batting is going to be a mixed bag for coming months.

He can easily play for 3-4 years and end up with close to 300 wickets @ 23-25 avg. which would be world class! Seriously his ability is already known and he is showing he's still got it. Get him in the team!

 

[Idrees1990]

No

He is an amazing one of a kind player but his rap sheet is too big

Then why are they keeping Amir. PCB is being a hypocrite. Asif is a much better bowler anyways

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Then why are they keeping Amir. PCB is being a hypocrite. Asif is a much better bowler anyways

read what i said " his rap sheet is too big"


Asif has done way more than just fixing , drug use and other scandals have dogged him

 

[Saj]

3-50 today in the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy and had a couple of catches dropped also.

 

[KyoOne]

Should the series with South Africa be finalised, he should be there on the team sheet in tests at least!

Easily a superior bowler to Junni, Abbas and Wahab

 

[AFM]

Shoaib Akhtar got me into cricket. But it was Mohammad Asif who made understand Test cricket and fall in love with it. Watching him bowl was an education in it self. How he would set batsmen up and get them to do what he wanted. I remember his spells to Cook in 2010. By getting an early ball to seam back in, he made Cook play at balls seaming away which he could have left. Pure genius.

I would love to see him bowl again in Test cricket. But it's time to move on. Invest in the future. Hassan could go on to be a great Test bowler. Amir still has age in his side and Afridi could become a bowler for all conditions.

 

[Abid Z]

Asif could still play for another few years. Deserves to be brought back if he is still performing at domestic level.

 

[Mirpur express]

Big fan of Asif but One name.. Shaheen Shah Afridi is the one for me

 

[boomboom6]

Should be flying to South Africa with the team if the test series goes ahead and be in playing XI ahead of Amir or Hassan.

Would love to see Asif vs Amla, ABD and Faf.

 

[BDwarriors]

amir is finished in test. asif must play few years

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

No - Plain and Simple (And this is coming from a guy who genuinely believes Asif is the greatest bowling genius to grace the cricketing faternity in the last millennia).

We made a concession for Amir only because he was young and a 17-year-old. Although it pains me to say this out loud we can't have Asif, not after everything that we've been through in the last decade.

 

[boomboom6]

No - Plain and Simple (And this is coming from a guy who genuinely believes Asif is the greatest bowling genius to grace the cricketing faternity in the last millennia).

We made a concession for Amir only because he was young and a 17-year-old. Although it pains me to say this out loud we can't have Asif, not after everything that we've been through in the last decade.

Some of you talk as if our test attack is in great shape ... Asif is sorely needed. Still no better bowler in Pakistan in test format then him!

 

[Hermoine Green]

Serial offender. No need to bring old horse, it's time to invest in youth. We should think about next 5-7 Years which Asif can not provide in Test cricket.

 

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Update. Mohammad Asif so far in the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy:<br>5-28<br>6-53<br>3-50<br>5-40<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/QeATrophy?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#QeATrophy</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/920181217114378240?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 17, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[Nikhil_cric]

He will struggle in test cricket. He's always done well when it's overcast or there's some grass on the wicket but has struggled on flat decks because he never had the pace to be successful there.

 

[JibranAnsari]

Good but too old now , if picked will take his sweet time to rise to the demands of international cricket and by the time he is settled it would be time to retire.

Pick the new guys and invest in them , asifs time is gone.

 

[Mainul]

Yes.Suddenly
Should add a poll

 

[BDwarriors]

Good but too old now , if picked will take his sweet time to rise to the demands of international cricket and by the time he is settled it would be time to retire.

Pick the new guys and invest in them , asifs time is gone.

he can play 5-6 year more easily and doesnt need a year to get fit in.

 

[BDwarriors]

Serial offender. No need to bring old horse, it's time to invest in youth. We should think about next 5-7 Years which Asif can not provide in Test cricket.

he can easily play 5-6 year like walsh, mcgrath...

 

[Suleiman]

No, he will corrupt Amir again who is just a kid.

 

[Veteran]

Actually when I saw the video I was not that impressed with his skills. He is really just a trundler now. The video is a testament not so much to the quality of the bowling as to the pathetic nature of the batting. The absence of footwork seems to be an affliction in Pakistani batting. To believe he can be a force in international cricket is wishful thinking.

 

[Sherlock]

No offence but our very own [MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] moans about the pitches back home, and how they're so poor for batting. He then goes on to twitter to shows off Asif's bowling stats.

You can't have it both ways.

 

[BDwarriors]

No offence but our very own [MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] moans about the pitches back home, and how they're so poor for batting. He then goes on to twitter to shows off Asif's bowling stats.

You can't have it both ways.

his stats were never great in domestic but woolmar knew whats in him and he shown it in international level...

 

[Sherlock]

his stats were never great in domestic but woolmar knew whats in him and he shown it in international level...

What's that go to do with what I wrote? I'm talking about the pitches currently back home, not when Woolmer was our coach [may he rest in peace].

 

[shaz619]

He will struggle in test cricket. He's always done well when it's overcast or there's some grass on the wicket but has struggled on flat decks because he never had the pace to be successful there.

It depends, when you stick a weak batting line up in front of him then he tends to thrive against the jobbers

 

[New Yorker]

his stats were never great in domestic but woolmar knew whats in him and he shown it in international level...

"knew what's in him"? he had 5 10fers in 70 something FC matches at an average of about 22. then he decimated a full strength england side in a A match. then he was selected. nothing mystical about it.

 

[New Yorker]

Actually when I saw the video I was not that impressed with his skills. He is really just a trundler now. The video is a testament not so much to the quality of the bowling as to the pathetic nature of the batting. The absence of footwork seems to be an affliction in Pakistani batting. To believe he can be a force in international cricket is wishful thinking.

he is no slower now than he was six years ago. when he was a force in international cricket. the bowler kevin pietersen feared the most. wishful thinking is to pretend that record doesn't exist.

 

[New Yorker]

No, he will corrupt Amir again who is just a kid.

more likely amir will corrupt him.

asif would be a treasure to have in the national side, not only for his bowling, but for what he can teach youngsters. it was asif who turned jimmy anderson into something special. wasim and waqar had imran there is no mentor figure this generation of test bowlers, and it shows.

 

[ads101]

No.

In tests I'd like to have an attack of Hasan Ali, Abbas, Yasir and Ashgar/Raees in spin friendly conditions.

In seam friendly conditions I might include Amir.

No point investing in a guy involved in fixing, and will only be able to play for one or two years before we have to move on. We've got quite a few fast bowling talents let's try out all of them before we even consider Asif.

 

[JibranAnsari]

he can play 5-6 year more easily and doesnt need a year to get fit in.

He is 36 on papers and only god knows how old he actually is , no he can not play for 5 6 years at international level.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

It depends, when you stick a weak batting line up in front of him then he tends to thrive against the jobbers

Lol those were actually decent bowling conditions. Even Irfan Pathan bowling @ 115 kph did some early damage. Asif was a very good bowler but he won't do much in the UAE or even in Australia for that matter. Even average d 27 with the ball on his last tour of England I think . And that was in his prime.

 

[hadi123]

Lol those were actually decent bowling conditions. Even Irfan Pathan bowling @ 115 kph did some early damage. Asif was a very good bowler but he won't do much in the UAE or even in Australia for that matter. Even average d 27 with the ball on his last tour of England I think . And that was in his prime.

You say that like averaging 27 is bad

 

[shaz619]

Lol those were actually decent bowling conditions. Even Irfan Pathan bowling @ 115 kph did some early damage. Asif was a very good bowler but he won't do much in the UAE or even in Australia for that matter. Even average d 27 with the ball on his last tour of England I think . And that was in his prime.

Yeah it was a green mamba in karachi maybe that's why the Indian ATG Jobber XI failed as if anything below 30 is bad. You'd be making a big mistake not to pick him for a series in England or any series from Pakistan's POV during his prime, obviously his time has come and gone now but I'd still pick him over Abbas or Amir in Tests.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

You say that like averaging 27 is bad

On that tour Aamir averaged much less than he did and Aamir has done nothing since his return . Asif has no chance in test cricket now. Need to invest in a young quick .

 

[shaz619]

On that tour Aamir averaged much less than he did and Aamir has done nothing since his return . Asif has no chance in test cricket now. Need to invest in a young quick .

Amir and Asif are distinct bowlers. Amir is Hulk Hogan and Asif is Bret Hart

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Yeah it was a green mamba in karachi maybe that's why the Indian ATG Jobber XI failed as if anything below 30 is bad. You'd be making a big mistake not to pick him for a series in England or any series from Pakistan's POV during his prime, obviously his time has come and gone now but I'd still pick him over Abbas or Amir in Tests.

And this is exactly what people said last summer about Aamir and how did that go? A 35 year old Asif who has been out of international cricket for 7 years is simply not the solution at this point . You can't judge him based on his performance s on dodgy Pakistani domestic wickets and predict that he would succeed.