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'Virat Kohli tries to dominate because of ego and pride but is overdoing it': Misbah-ul-Haq

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Virat Kohli’s slump in the last couple of years has been one of the biggest talking points whenever India play a cricket match. Kohli is on the search for his 71st international century since November 2019. Things pretty much remain the same ahead of India's rescheduled Test against England. Deliveries outside the line of off-stump have always troubled Kohli but of late, things have become worse. Former Pakistan captain Misbah-ul-Haq believes that it is this very thing which is preventing Kohli from achieving new heights. Speaking in an interview, Misbah said “Virat Kohli looks to chase outside-off deliveries a lot and has been dismissed in that manner multiple times. We can see the technical issues, but the reason why he is doing that is because of mental issues.”

While Kohli is a naturally attacking batter, Misbah holds the opinion that he could be more successful in this next phase of his career if he allows himself to play a little more conservatively. After all, going for boundaries isn’t the only way to score runs, and in the first four Tests in England, last summer, Rohit Sharma and KL Rahul showed how letting your natural game take the backseat can prove to be fruitful.\

The former Pakistan captain said Kohli at times overdoes his ploy of trying to dominate the bowlers. “He is trying to dominate the bowlers as there's an ego and pride. But somewhere he is overdoing it. He is playing more and more and the pressure is mounting on him."

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...stan-captain-misbahulhaq-101656581408851.html
 
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Misbah would know all about dominating bowlers :)))

The least threatening batsman ever.
 
Misbah had neither so should not be lecturing others about advice
 
Good analysis by Misbah. If kohli is failing to score from his natural game than he should be abit more defensive.
Kohli needs to tone down the need to dominate bowlers which he can still do if he slows down, good example of sharma

Misbah has coached pakistan so is experienced.

No surprise with the above immature posts who think a cricketer shouldnt be giving his analysis :facepalm:
 
Once upon a time a fox was roaming in a forest in search of food. Unfortunately he was caught up in a trap. He tried his best to get free. Heaving to get out of the trap, he was able to do so but lost his tail in the struggle. The fox felt very small. He knew that every fox would laugh at him. He was so sad that he thought of killing himself. But then he said to himself, “It is cowardice to kill oneself. I should do something else.”

At last the fox planned to persuade all the foxes to part with their tails. It was sure to divert their attention from his tail less appearance. So, the fox called a meeting of the foxes and advised them to do away with their tails. He said, “They are ugly, heavy and tiresome. We must get rid of them.”

But one clever fox said, “Good,sir ! you wouldn’t be so keen to give us that advice, if you were not tail less. Isn’t it ?”


Just a story ...may or may not be related to any recent news or interviews by an so called ex legend like personalities
 
Misbah should be the last man to discuss dominating. During his career he loved getting the domination treatment instead.

Also, what were you doing when we needed you to dominate in Mohali? Got dominated in grand style in the biggest match of his life.
 
Continuing with the theme of "Domination".

Misbah couldn't even dominate Joginder Sharma. The worst bowler I've seen play a white ball WC/WT20 final.
 
I see the opposite, the guy is too humble now and this loss of ego and pride has turned him into a softie who isn't competitive like before.
 
Misbah knows more about cricket than we all do.
 
Misbah's own ego and pride cost Pakistan many games with his Tuk Tuk brand.

I'd take aggressive Kohli over placid Misbah, even if Kohli is egotistic.
 
Rana said:
Oh yes, that’s why he thought it was sensible to pick Mohammad Irfan out of retirement to play against Australia?
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No one can always be right. Besides, as I said I won't shoot the messenger especially when he has the kind of experience Misbah has in international cricket.
 
What a funny world.

Even a legend like Virat Kohli is getting criticized by every Tom, Dick and Harry.

No disrespect to Misbah... but comeon dude :yk
 
Misbah has high level experience, retired as the skipper after taking the team to no.1 and knew how to bat within his limitations, especially for an aging cricketer who’s physical gifts had begun to diminish. Folk forget how Misbah came inti international cricket. Kohli needs to humble himself and realise the reality of the situation. Sachin had a knack for getting back into form with ugly runs to. Misbah deserves criticisms for some stuff for sure but I think he is on point here.
 
Lol he wants Kohli to start tuk tuking like himself
 
Folks forget how Misbah was playing in the international scene in 2007, that one bad shot in the T20 WC final lost Pakistan the trophy, resulting in Misbah surrendering his mental strength to tuk tuk.

Misbah went on the defensive since that WT20 final. He was walking wounded since 2007.
 
As a Pakistani I would take Kohli hundred times over Misbah.
 
There is no ego and pride here. More like jealousy on Misbah's part whose batting put the viewer to sleep.
 
if such thinking is prevalent in Pakistani cricket it would go a long way to explain why so many of the more flamboyant young batsmen who join the team become defensive nurdlers after one or two failures.

the idea that 50 off of 150 in a test is a good innings but 45 off 50 is bad has turned pakistan from one of the more exciting teams to watch to one of the most boring.
 
More quotes from Misbah

Kohli's problem is not just technical

“There are two important aspects in batting - mental and technical. In mental aspect, there are a range of things. Even your technique is related to mental conditions. How your mind is working and the pressure on the batter. Batting is an automation, reaction and decision making. When you are in automation mode, everything goes fine whether it is your muscle memory, you have rhythm and clarity. You are clear in your mind without any complexity. Everything is working for you, from footwork, bat lift, hitting the ball in zone. But, when you are struggling mentally, you are thinking too much and bothered about the outside noise, the mind-body co-ordination gets affected. It does not matter how mentally strong you are,”

Kohli's way to regain form

"You often talk about Kohli chasing the ball outside off stump away from his body and nicking it. The technical issue is clear but there is also mental issue behind it. That he is trying to dominate. The ego and pride gets in the way and he wants to dominate. The pressure keeps on mounting. My advice is to just get out of the pressure situations. I don't know what he has done back home. What I did was I went back and played some club matches irrespective of the quality of bowling attack. It was just to build that confidence in myself. It is to get that automation back so that you start feeling comfortable"

Advice to Indian batters


Misbah, who has a good batting record in England, had a piece of advice for Indian batters for the upcoming Test. While he agrees that English conditions are not easy to bat in, he gave a few to-dos for the visitors.

“See, it is not that easy. You have to be prepared, wait for the ball, play late and don't go chasing after it. Especially, scoring in the cover region in England is playing with the danger. As long as you play close to the body, play straight and use cut and pull shots, you will be fine. If you play drives which is Kohli's favourite, it is not a good idea until you play yourself in. You have to play with soft hands and cash in on balls that push you on the back foot which is important,” Misbah further explained.
 
daytrader said:
More quotes from Misbah

…….What I did was I went back and played some club matches irrespective of the quality of bowling attack. It was just to build that confidence in myself. It is to get that automation back so that you start feeling comfortable"

Advice to Indian batters


Misbah, who has a good batting record in England, had a piece of advice for Indian batters for the upcoming Test. While he agrees that English conditions are not easy to bat in, he gave a few to-dos for the visitors.

“See, it is not that easy. You have to be prepared, wait for the ball, play late and don't go chasing after it. Especially, scoring in the cover region in England is playing with the danger. As long as you play close to the body, play straight and use cut and pull shots, you will be fine. If you play drives which is Kohli's favourite, it is not a good idea until you play yourself in. You have to play with soft hands and cash in on balls that push you on the back foot which is important,” Misbah further explained.
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It’s this delusion that makes him look so foolish. Why should anyone care what Misbah did? He’s no standard to follow.
 
TheSultan said:
It’s this delusion that makes him look so foolish. Why should anyone care what Misbah did? He’s no standard to follow.
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It was a topic on a sports show. He's paid for his opinions and if you look beyond your criticism you will find that he's giving solid advice. Misbah's career catapulted after the age of 36 whereas Kohli is 33 and is regressing
 
Misbah maybe right or wrong.

But posters dissing on him because he played his game different are just making a fool of themselves.

Just because Misbah has his own style, doesn't mean he cannot analyze other players. He has played against and planned for batsmen of all kinds.
 
daytrader said:
It was a topic on a sports show. He's paid for his opinions and if you look beyond your criticism you will find that he's giving solid advice. Misbah's career catapulted after the age of 36 whereas Kohli is 33 and is regressing
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Catapulted? I’d say it was more of a grind year on year.
 
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Laugh all you want but fact is, Misbah averaged 51 as captain. Which basically means that he averaged 51 from 2010-17.

Meanwhile Kohli hasn't scored a century in 3 years. That's embarrassing for a batter of his caliber and quality. I think he could benefit from the advice of a number of people because clearly whatever he is doing is not working.
 
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If being worse than a player disqualifies you from commenting on them, PP would be shut down. Why not focus on the point rather than the person making it?
 
Firebat said:
If being worse than a player disqualifies you from commenting on them, PP would be shut down. Why not focus on the point rather than the person making it?
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I think it’s more about the irony of Misbah advising about when you attack and when you defend considering how poor he was at it.

And if he had just said that, that’s one thing. He goes to on to give examples about himself. So naturally once he brings himself in to it, then there will be comments about his merits as a player. Especially in the context of when you attack and defend
 
Ridiculous comments from top to bottom in this thread. Misbah has been a solid Test captain who also made the most of his abilities as a batsman. No batsman in the world is big enough to not receive advice. And it doesn't matter if the advice comes from someone who is few notches below in terms of a career. Otherwise everyone should hire Bradmans, Laras and Tendulkars for batting coaches.

I can just imagine what our fans here would do to a guy like Andrew McDonald if he was the Pakistani coach. But because he's Australian, he's ok to coach greats like Warner, Starc, Cummins. PakPassion posters here don't even spare a Pakistani alltime great in Saqlain, so them going after Misbah giving advice is not shocking at all. Sanjay Bangar can become India's batting coach but Misbah cannot give reasonable advice. Logic the fans come up with.
 
Corridor of Uncertainty said:
Misbah maybe right or wrong.

But posters dissing on him because he played his game different are just making a fool of themselves.

Just because Misbah has his own style, doesn't mean he cannot analyze other players. He has played against and planned for batsmen of all kinds.
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I'd just call it hating for the sake of hatred.
 
shariqnoor said:
Ridiculous comments from top to bottom in this thread. Misbah has been a solid Test captain who also made the most of his abilities as a batsman. No batsman in the world is big enough to not receive advice. And it doesn't matter if the advice comes from someone who is few notches below in terms of a career. Otherwise everyone should hire Bradmans, Laras and Tendulkars for batting coaches.

I can just imagine what our fans here would do to a guy like Andrew McDonald if he was the Pakistani coach. But because he's Australian, he's ok to coach greats like Warner, Starc, Cummins. PakPassion posters here don't even spare a Pakistani alltime great in Saqlain, so them going after Misbah giving advice is not shocking at all. Sanjay Bangar can become India's batting coach but Misbah cannot give reasonable advice. Logic the fans come up with.
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The difference is Sanjay Bangar and McDonald don’t give examples about themselves. Once Misbah started talking about “I used to do x,y,z” then he’s opening himself up for criticism
 
TheSultan said:
The difference is Sanjay Bangar and McDonald don’t give examples about themselves. Once Misbah started talking about “I used to do x,y,z” then he’s opening himself up for criticism
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Misbah is in the perfect position to give this sort of advice as he's done it himself. He made come backs from numerous slumps to have a successful career after the age of 36
 
What has he actually done? He may have come back, but I doubt anyone wants to become a snail of a batsman.

If he had started off saying “I know I have made many mistakes, but if I had to do it all over again my experience has shown me how to improve batsmen and not be the pathetic tuk tuk master that I used to be.”

If he said that, I might listen.
 
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Misbah is right here.

I think Kohli is too proud to fix his problems. He is like Stone Cold Steve Austin of cricket. He is anti-authority. That's where the issue is. He thinks he has it all figured out.

This is where Tendulkar was much better. He was humble and was always looking to get better.
 
Kohli's concentration is gone. He needs long inning against poor attack to get that back. He should be made to play Ranji's etc instead to international cricket.
 
I would disagree.
Infact I believe he has become too friendly and meek (compared to prime Kohli). I don't know about ego, but he no longer feels as proud to represent India.
 
Kohli's attitude is exactly why he was such a fierce batsman and managed to lift a meek and feeble Indian team from #7 in the world to a world-beating team. There's no need to change that.
 
Kaptan said:
I would disagree.
Infact I believe he has become too friendly and meek (compared to prime Kohli). I don't know about ego, but he no longer feels as proud to represent India.
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You're mixing up cause and effect. It's the other way round. He is friendly because his form has plummeted.
 
pillionrider said:
You're mixing up cause and effect. It's the other way round. He is friendly because his form has plummeted.
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This.

He won't have mellowed down one bit if he was batting alright. Or if he still had reins of Indian cricket instead of being in current state when he doesn't have much power left to exercise.
 
I think Kohli has literally tried everything while batting. Taking his time to get settled, trying to dominate straight away, trying to ignite the old ego/attitude (from the days of when he was best all format batsman), effort to keep the ego aside and giving respect to the deliveries etc.

In my view many top athletes who have elite level skillset or atleast good enough to dominate others on his/her day naturally have that ego/pride (Within his/her arena, for Virat its that cricket ground) which that person feeds and in turn drive that extra hunger from that ego/pride itself. Yes some are more reliant on that to get that drive going (Like Kohli and it has been the case since his younger days where opposition sledges made him even more focused) while for some other top athletes its there but, much less and controlled rather then being their key driving factors.

So yes being the key driving force that pride element is a constant part of his subconscious but, he has tried toning it down during his batting at different periods during this slump as much as is possible from a personality like him and has tried going back to the basics of batting.

ItÂ’s difficult to call but, we have seen in the past that for some batsmen that decline in the reflexes is pretty sudden when they are entering their mid 30s. Against high speed, its just a difference in reaction time of few milliseconds that makes all the difference. He and everyone is surprised considering the level at he was performing at 2-3 years ago and the kind of stature he has. Yes some batsmen carried on with performances based upon experience they had at that stage of careers but, with Kohli as discussed itÂ’s possibly for him to make that experience being the driving force while batting while completely dissociating himself with the high that once was there with bit of glances, sledges, attitude, flare and that elite athlete ego.
 
Kohli will be the highest run scorer in the next ODI World Cup in India, 2023.

You can mark my post for prosperity.
 
TheSultan said:
What has he actually done? He may have come back, but I doubt anyone wants to become a snail of a batsman.

If he had started off saying “I know I have made many mistakes, but if I had to do it all over again my experience has shown me how to improve batsmen and not be the pathetic tuk tuk master that I used to be.”

If he said that, I might listen.
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Well at least you admit that you don't listen, so if you had actually listened to the interview you might not make such silly arguments. Misbah made comebacks to the side and became a successful batter and captain. Took us to No. 1 in tests you know.

Kohli doesn't need any improving. What he needs as Misbah stated, is to get domestic runs so that the automation is back. Once he has runs under the belt it will make it easier to over come the pressure
 
daytrader said:
Well at least you admit that you don't listen, so if you had actually listened to the interview you might not make such silly arguments. Misbah made comebacks to the side and became a successful batter and captain. Took us to No. 1 in tests you know.

Kohli doesn't need any improving. What he needs as Misbah stated, is to get domestic runs so that the automation is back. Once he has runs under the belt it will make it easier to over come the pressure
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It doesn’t matter. Misbah’s batting has always been pointless even if he’s scored runs during his many so called “comebacks”.

Completely ineffective, the bowlers were not even interested in getting him out. They preferred he stayed out in the middle so he can apply some pressure on behalf of them to the rest of the Pakistani batsmen.

I don’t think anyone wants to come as that type of batsman.

You’re all absolutely right it doesn’t exclude him from being a coach. However, his delusion that what he did was right and using himself as an example does exclude him.

If he publicly says “I played the way I did because of my limitations and my lack of ability. I couldn’t play any better. But I know what it takes to apply yourself, to put in the hard work etc” then yes, let’s see what he’s got to offer.

But he’s never proved that. Not content with introducing tuk-ball to pak cricket when he was captain, he came back as coach and cs to indoctrinate another generation with his tuk-ball.

He genuinely believes that cricket is supposed to be played the way he did. I don’t think anyone would want to aspire to such a pathetic mindset.
 
It was under his captaincy that Pakistan became ranked Number 1 in Tests.

I appreciate Indian fans getting emotional that their dear Kohli was criticised, but I have to laugh at some of these edgy Pakistan "fans" running out of the woodwork.
 
Abstraction1 said:
It was under his captaincy that Pakistan became ranked Number 1 in Tests.

I appreciate Indian fans getting emotional that their dear Kohli was criticised, but I have to laugh at some of these edgy Pakistan "fans" running out of the woodwork.
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Pakistan needed Misbah’s captaincy to be #1, India needed Kohli’s approach..
 
Showed some aggression today and looked pretty good.

But once again, got in and then played a loose shot.
 
A prolonged slump like this clearly tells you that the quality of the player has to be questioned. Great players have the mental toughness to get out of pro longed slumps.
 
Abstraction1 said:
It was under his captaincy that Pakistan became ranked Number 1 in Tests.
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That old chestnut.

That was a technicality when the calculations changed to the next cycle. It lasted all of 2 weeks and within a few months they were back down to no7.
 
Titan24 said:
I think Kohli has literally tried everything while batting. Taking his time to get settled, trying to dominate straight away, trying to ignite the old ego/attitude (from the days of when he was best all format batsman), effort to keep the ego aside and giving respect to the deliveries etc.

In my view many top athletes who have elite level skillset or atleast good enough to dominate others on his/her day naturally have that ego/pride (Within his/her arena, for Virat its that cricket ground) which that person feeds and in turn drive that extra hunger from that ego/pride itself. Yes some are more reliant on that to get that drive going (Like Kohli and it has been the case since his younger days where opposition sledges made him even more focused) while for some other top athletes its there but, much less and controlled rather then being their key driving factors.

So yes being the key driving force that pride element is a constant part of his subconscious but, he has tried toning it down during his batting at different periods during this slump as much as is possible from a personality like him and has tried going back to the basics of batting.

ItÂ’s difficult to call but, we have seen in the past that for some batsmen that decline in the reflexes is pretty sudden when they are entering their mid 30s. Against high speed, its just a difference in reaction time of few milliseconds that makes all the difference. He and everyone is surprised considering the level at he was performing at 2-3 years ago and the kind of stature he has. Yes some batsmen carried on with performances based upon experience they had at that stage of careers but, with Kohli as discussed itÂ’s possibly for him to make that experience being the driving force while batting while completely dissociating himself with the high that once was there with bit of glances, sledges, attitude, flare and that elite athlete ego.
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I think something is seriously wrong with his vision. Doesn't kohls wear glasses? If so it Needs to be addressed.
 
Saj said:
Showed some aggression today and looked pretty good.

But once again, got in and then played a loose shot.
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It wasn't a loose shot. Stokes bowled an unplayable ball.
 
Moeey said:
I think something is seriously wrong with his vision. Doesn't kohls wear glasses? If so it Needs to be addressed.
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Yes he does wear glasses off the field as we have seen few times and maybe lenses as well. Though not sure what exactly is the status of his vision.
 
Titan24 said:
Yes he does wear glasses off the field as we have seen few times and maybe lenses as well. Though not sure what exactly is the status of his vision.
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He needs to wear it rather than contacts
 
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