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Jonathan Trott today announced his retirement from international cricket.

Speaking today he said: “This was a tough decision to make but I don’t feel my game is at the level you need to be at to play for England. I was honoured to be given the opportunity to come back and play international cricket again and I’m disappointed it didn’t work out.

“I want to take this opportunity to thank everyone who has helped me and given me the chance to represent England and to thank supporters for all their backing over the years. I also want to wish the lads all the very best for what will be an incredibly exciting summer.

“I’ve had incredible highs and some real lows in an England shirt but wouldn’t change a thing. I look forward to continuing my career at Warwickshire and hopefully helping us win more silverware.”

England Test captain, Alastair Cook, said: “It has been an absolute honour to play alongside Trotty in every one of his 52 Tests. He can be incredibly proud of all he has achieved in his career and it is no coincidence that his time in international cricket has seen the team achieve some very special things often with Trotty at the heart of our success on and off the field.

“To come back from events around the Brisbane Test in 2013 and earn a place back in this side is testament to his character and spirit and although things didn’t work out as we all hoped on this current tour, he gave absolutely everything to the three lions every time he wore the cap.

“I speak on behalf of this current team and all those who have shared a dressing room with him over the years when I say it was a privilege to play alongside him. He’ll be sorely missed by all in England cricket and our supporters will thank him for some incredible memories. Trotty has a huge amount to offer English cricket and we wish him all the very best as he continues his career with Warwickshire.”

Jonathan Trott has played 52 Tests, 68 ODIs and seven T20s in an international career that began in 2007. The 34 year old batsman made his Test debut during in Ashes in 2009 and made an immediate impact scoring the first of his nine Test centuries.

Trott went on to become a vital part of a Test side that won an Ashes series away from home for the first time in 24 years, reached number one in the world and won a Test series in India for the first time in 27 years. The Warwickshire batsman was also the lynchpin of England’s ODI team, helping the side to the final of the ICC Champions Trophy in 2013.
 
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England fast tracked his retirement by having him open the innings :facepalm: Trott is not an opener. I don't know how he can be content with this decision, if he failed at no.3 or no.4 I could understand but having him open was just setting him up for failure. He has never opened for the Bears in FC cricket.

Anyway, good luck to him in his future endeavours. The Bears will be glad to have him for county championship. Trott was a fantastic bat for England, really put a price on his wicket and made a commitment to spend time at the crease. One of the better no.3's for England in recent times.
 
I must say I'm not surprised, you could probably see it coming.
 
It is a sad way for his international career to end but I feel that he has made the right decision.
 
Shocked! Very good player when on song and batsman of a highest caliber ! Sad way to end but the feelings of his game would nobody understand better than him !


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Really sad way to end a career. All the best to him.
 
A lot of respect to Trott for having the courage to do this. It could be argued that he wasn't played at his correct position but Ballance is settled at #3 and does not deserve to be moved around and there is no place for Trott in the line-up currently. He realised that opening for him won't work, and people like Lyth and Hales deserve an opportunity now. A real team man. Still waiting for Shiv Chanders to realise the same thing though in a slightly different context.
 
Abdullah719 said:
A lot of respect to Trott for having the courage to do this. It could be argued that he wasn't played at his correct position but Ballance is settled at #3 and does not deserve to be moved around and there is no place for Trott in the line-up currently. He realised that opening for him won't work, and people like Lyth and Hales deserve an opportunity now. A real team man. Still waiting for Shiv Chanders to realise the same thing though in a slightly different context.
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Completely agree. A very selfless decision.

He could have lingered on till the Ashes but took one for the team. Was a top class batsman though, it's a shame his career has ended prematurely.
 
I think he has done the right thing for him.

Thanks Trotty for the many matches you helped England to win!
 
Really good player.

At least he averaged 50+ in ODIs upon his leave.
 
KPfan said:
How did you arrive at this conclusion?


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Dont want to play Devils advocate but didn't get give an interview saying he did not have a stress related illness and his issue was just a "mental fatigue" due to playing too much?
 
I am sure, some selectors went to him and asked him to retire gracefully. Thats what the aussie and english selectors do.

I remember Mark Waugh was asked to retire the same way by aussie selectors... hence you will never see an Ajmal like incident with countries like Australia and England.
 
wasimjunior said:
Dont want to play Devils advocate but didn't get give an interview saying he did not have a stress related illness and his issue was just a "mental fatigue" due to playing too much?
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And I'm being shot down here. He's done an Afridi twice now. Its unacceptable. England needs committed players to win.
 
An honourable exit.

Note the difference between him and Hafeez, who is as old, and who is even weaker against pace.

Or Ajmal, who is three years older.
 
Not a attractive player to watch but grit and determination. Did the job of scoring runs with ease. What is his current average in test cricket?
 
Neferpitou said:
Mentally fragile but great player.
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Hardly.

Being a top order international batsman requires more physical courage than 99.9% of the population has. He just isn't in that insanely brave 0.1% any more.
 
Junaids said:
An honourable exit.

Note the difference between him and Hafeez, who is as old, and who is even weaker against pace.

Or Ajmal, who is three years older.
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Hafeez scored a double hundred in his last game- Trott scored single figures. Trott was also going to be dropped owing to the media backlash over his inclusion, whereas Hafeez remains one of Pakistans stronger players.

Very strange thing to randomly bring up...
 
Very respectful way to step down when not performing for the team.
 
Trott is a bit selfish player on another level.

Before the ashes, he knew that he is going through depression and may not ready for int cricket. Still he went for it only to leave in the middle.

i have sympathy for him for going through a crisis. Yet, for the greater good, for the team sake, you should have made yourself unavailable. that is where i will call Trott a selfish player.

then again he came back.... You can clearly see, he physically, mentally not ready for even club cricket. but still, he made himself available for selection only to fail england.

every step he took, has harmed england in the later part of his career. he was a great player, but it was unprofessionalism which will be attribute with him.
 
He'll be back in another year to put a downer on the team morale. Do you know how damaging it is to the dressing room when cowards like these back out when going gets tough.

England needs committed and hungry players. They need to bring back KP.
 
He was very good. As a Pakistani, really disliked to play against him; especially in Test cricket.

But I think it's a good decision as his game is not what it used to be.
 
JaDed said:
The army of mentally weak batsmen of English is more of a disease imo, sorry to say these guys get all the best facilities in the world and they keep talking abt stress blaa blaa.Kudos to Aussies imo inspite of being a developed country they don't produce mental midgets.
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I find it irritating England persist with quitters like Trott over KP.
 
He was a terrific player but now is a shadow of his former self.Unfortunately his stress related issues got better of him. Good to know that, he chose to retire graciously. way to go!
 
Some absolute idiotic comments from several posters

Nobody without good reason quits playing at the highest level Its not a decision one can make lightly

Wish him good luck with his future endeavours
 
Not surprising. Was a very good batsman 4-5 years back and it's a very sad way to end a career. really wanted him to succeed on his comeback. It's definitely the right deicision though, and an unselfish one.

Flat_Track_Bully said:
The guy is not stressed, he's lazy.
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JaDed said:
The army of mentally weak batsmen of English is more of a disease imo, sorry to say these guys get all the best facilities in the world and they keep talking abt stress blaa blaa.Kudos to Aussies imo inspite of being a developed country they don't produce mental midgets.
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Flat_Track_Bully said:
I find it irritating England persist with quitters like Trott over KP.
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These type of posts are unacceptable and I find it a shame they've not been deleted yet.

It shows enormous insensitivity and a total lack of understanding of mental stress related problems. It's because of rubbish ignorant statements like this which associate depression and anxiety disorder with words like "weakness" and "quitting" that the issues of depression, stress, etc are still taboo in society. Shameful.
 
WrexEverything said:
It shows enormous insensitivity and a total lack of understanding of mental stress related problems. It's because of rubbish ignorant statements like this which associate depression and anxiety disorder with words like "weakness" and "quitting" that the issues of depression, stress, etc are still taboo in society. Shameful.
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Jonathan Trott: I wasn't suffering from depression, I was just burnt out

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/international/england/10697493/Jonathan-Trott-I-wasnt-suffering-from-depression-I-was-just-burnt-out.html

Trott himself has confirmed it was depression so what is unacceptable about these posts?

This is a non issue. We are talking about performance and dressing room morale.

Your post should be deleted for derailing this thread.
 
Flat_Track_Bully said:
Jonathan Trott: I wasn't suffering from depression, I was just burnt out

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/international/england/10697493/Jonathan-Trott-I-wasnt-suffering-from-depression-I-was-just-burnt-out.html

Trott himself has confirmed it was depression so what is unacceptable about these posts?

This is a non issue. We are talking about performance and dressing room morale.

Your post should be deleted for derailing this thread.
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It's widely been accepted by anyone who has knowledge of previous cases of depression in cricket that that interview was a clear case of denial. It's happened before, too. Look up the cases of Marcus Trescothik and Michael Yardy, who also suffered mental stress issues. They too denied it and said it wasn't depression in the media, because "depression" is a taboo word in society as it's associated with mental health. This is the core problem. Anything related to mental health issues is always attempted to be pushed under the rug because of how the media and society react by calling them "weak", etc.
 
WrexEverything said:
It's widely been accepted by anyone who has knowledge of previous cases of depression in cricket that that interview was a clear case of denial. It's happened before, too. Look up the cases of Marcus Trescothik and Michael Yardy, who also suffered mental stress issues. They too denied it and said it wasn't depression in the media, because "depression" is a taboo word in society as it's associated with mental health. This is the core problem. Anything related to mental health issues is always attempted to be pushed under the rug because of how the media and society react by calling them "weak", etc.
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Trescothick and Yardy never denied they suffered from depression. Mental healthy is not a joke matter but Trott himself has said he is burnt out. Thats his words. There is no denial.
 
Flat_Track_Bully said:
Trescothick and Yardy never denied they suffered from depression. Mental healthy is not a joke matter but Trott himself has said he is burnt out. Thats his words. There is no denial.
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Trescothick denied it was depression multiple times. His phase of denial was eerily similar to Trott's where he gave a number of other reasons for his exit from 2006 India tour.

The main reason was that I picked up a bug when I was out there," said Trescothick, who said he was still suffering from the virus as recently as three weeks ago.
"The second part of Bombay really hit me hard; I wasn't sleeping and couldn't shake it off.I could not shrug it off and it left me completely exhausted,
"We moved to Baroda, and it didn't get any better; I wasn't eating or drinking, and it really took its toll. It got to the point when I said I was pretty fatigued and struggling to concentrate on my cricket ahead of a big Test match.
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He then made a statement a few months later where he blamed it on a stomach virus and "stress", but refused to once mention the word depression.

A spokesman for his specialists Performance Healthcare described his condition as "acquired gastrointestinal infection".

"It later became evident he was also suffering from an underlying stress-related illness
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Years later, he admitted it was depression and regretted his statements in the media blaming it on irrelevant issues because he himself was in denial at the time. Read his book, it's very honest and enlightening. And it is scarily similar to what Trott has gone through.
 
WrexEverything said:
Not surprising. Was a very good batsman 4-5 years back and it's a very sad way to end a career. really wanted him to succeed on his comeback. It's definitely the right deicision though, and an unselfish one.

These type of posts are unacceptable and I find it a shame they've not been deleted yet.

It shows enormous insensitivity and a total lack of understanding of mental stress related problems. It's because of rubbish ignorant statements like this which associate depression and anxiety disorder with words like "weakness" and "quitting" that the issues of depression, stress, etc are still taboo in society. Shameful.
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Why is it that only developed country like England see most stress related issues in cricket.Sorry to say but i see them every time saying something like this.They don't seem to have perspective on situations similar to like i'm not having it w.r.t to his life.
 
I agree its insensitive of me to post such a comment.Mods kindly delete the necessary posts.
 
JaDed said:
Why is it that only developed country like England see most stress related issues in cricket.Sorry to say but i see them every time saying something like this.They don't seem to have perspective on situations similar to like i'm not having it w.r.t to his life.
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Because

1. Developed nation doctors are better at identifying these issues instead of calling it "mental weakness"
2. Developed world people are more likely to suffer from depression, due to the individualistic nature of the societies, without big families to support them.
 
Pretty much was a walking wicket on his return, he was never going to be good as an opener he struggled against the swining ball early on and pretty much looked like a cardboard cut out when it came to playing short stuff, so pretty much he was bound to be dropped fair does to him to have the balls to retire and walk away as he knew his performances werent up to scratch. Lyth should replace him at top of the order for kiwi and ashes series.
 
WrexEverything said:
Not surprising. Was a very good batsman 4-5 years back and it's a very sad way to end a career. really wanted him to succeed on his comeback. It's definitely the right deicision though, and an unselfish one.







These type of posts are unacceptable and I find it a shame they've not been deleted yet.

It shows enormous insensitivity and a total lack of understanding of mental stress related problems. It's because of rubbish ignorant statements like this which associate depression and anxiety disorder with words like "weakness" and "quitting" that the issues of depression, stress, etc are still taboo in society. Shameful.
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Yep. I had a bout with minor mental illness. It was horrible - I thought I was going mad. But a psychotherapist helped me and now I am well again. But many people, in particular men are too ashamed to speak to their doctor for the reasons you mention.
 
Robert said:
Because

1. Developed nation doctors are better at identifying these issues instead of calling it "mental weakness"
2. Developed world people are more likely to suffer from depression, due to the individualistic nature of the societies, without big families to support them.
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Why is there an exception with Aus,NZ or Nordic countries i think its more to do with society but yes as i have said already it was insensitive of me to say something like that.
 
Robert said:
Because

1. Developed nation doctors are better at identifying these issues instead of calling it "mental weakness"
2. Developed world people are more likely to suffer from depression, due to the individualistic nature of the societies, without big families to support them.
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you missed the most important reason.

in developing world, less resource, more consumers. Hence, from childhood, you have to fight for everything. By the time you reach adulthood, you develop strength to face adverse situation and since, you have faced worse situation before, it becomes easier to handle the oncoming obstacles too.

when you struggle to gather 2 breads for each day and have to sleep empty stomach in many occasions, you develop immunity to other aspects of life.
 
Robert, your points are good, but I should point out - having never treated either of them - that the "depression" diagnoses of Trescothick and Trott are both incorrect.

On the basis of what information is in the public domain, they actually both have anxiety disorders, not mood disorders. And Trescothick's in particular was not treated as I would have - you need exposure (graded exposure) to fears, not avoidance of them. As for Trott, he never seems to have accepted his diagnosis.

Freddie might have had depression. Broad has something else again: he has PTSD superimposed upon a narcissistic personality. He can't just adapt and grit it out: as a batsman he either needs formal psychotherapy or to bat at number 11.
 
Junaids said:
Robert, your points are good, but I should point out - having never treated either of them - that the "depression" diagnoses of Trescothick and Trott are both incorrect.

On the basis of what information is in the public domain, they actually both have anxiety disorders, not mood disorders. And Trescothick's in particular was not treated as I would have - you need exposure (graded exposure) to fears, not avoidance of them. As for Trott, he never seems to have accepted his diagnosis.

Freddie might have had depression. Broad has something else again: he has PTSD superimposed upon a narcissistic personality. He can't just adapt and grit it out: as a batsman he either needs formal psychotherapy or to bat at number 11.
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this is over analysing.

we all have issues. No one is perfect. if you send 100 people to a psychiatrist, all 100 will be diagnosed with different illness. that's where, as a medical practitioner, you need to draw a line. Otherwise, everyone is mentally ill in this world.
 
Itachi said:
this is over analysing.

we all have issues. No one is perfect. if you send 100 people to a psychiatrist, all 100 will be diagnosed with different illness. that's where, as a medical practitioner, you need to draw a line. Otherwise, everyone is mentally ill in this world.
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I, as a doctor, would argue that psychiatrists are often better diagnosticians than psychologists because we use diagnostic manuals like DSM5 which have no such problems with inter-rater reliability and produce consistent diagnoses. In lay terms "depression" is often used as code for personality pathology and anxiety disorders, which otherwise are viewed as less serious.
 
He was really good until 2011-12ish period post which his down-fall started. Boring to watch but he did the job for England. Respect to him to call it quits. It can be tough for an individual to come to this decision especially after the reaction after Ashes. Good on him.
 
Itachi said:
you missed the most important reason.

in developing world, less resource, more consumers. Hence, from childhood, you have to fight for everything. By the time you reach adulthood, you develop strength to face adverse situation and since, you have faced worse situation before, it becomes easier to handle the oncoming obstacles too.

when you struggle to gather 2 breads for each day and have to sleep empty stomach in many occasions, you develop immunity to other aspects of life.
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I disagree. Plenty of WW1 soldiers had to fight for everything. They still got PTSD in the trenches.

Junaids said:
Robert, your points are good, but I should point out - having never treated either of them - that the "depression" diagnoses of Trescothick and Trott are both incorrect.

On the basis of what information is in the public domain, they actually both have anxiety disorders, not mood disorders. And Trescothick's in particular was not treated as I would have - you need exposure (graded exposure) to fears, not avoidance of them. As for Trott, he never seems to have accepted his diagnosis.

Freddie might have had depression. Broad has something else again: he has PTSD superimposed upon a narcissistic personality. He can't just adapt and grit it out: as a batsman he either needs formal psychotherapy or to bat at number 11.
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Right. I guess anxiety disorder is what happened to me.

Though I bet I could sort Broad out with a bit of NLP. He's got a phobia due to getting smacked in the face. Those are lemon squeezy to fix. It's hardly the same as seeing your best mate lose his legs to an IED out in Afghanistan.
 
Robert said:
I disagree. Plenty of WW1 soldiers had to fight for everything. They still got PTSD in the trenches.
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your example actually proves my point.

WW1 soldiers had to fight for everything in a short period of time, for which they were not prepared nor they had any prior any experience. Hence, they suffered PTSD and depression. Had they were accustomed with wars like WW1, that wouldn't have been an issue.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Pretty much was a walking wicket on his return, he was never going to be good as an opener he struggled against the swining ball early on and pretty much looked like a cardboard cut out when it came to playing short stuff, so pretty much he was bound to be dropped fair does to him to have the balls to retire and walk away as he knew his performances werent up to scratch. Lyth should replace him at top of the order for kiwi and ashes series.
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Why didn't they fit him in at number 3
 
Junaids said:
I, as a doctor, would argue that psychiatrists are often better diagnosticians than psychologists because we use diagnostic manuals like DSM5 which have no such problems with inter-rater reliability and produce consistent diagnoses. In lay terms "depression" is often used as code for personality pathology and anxiety disorders, which otherwise are viewed as less serious.
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Right now, I am far from medical field but when i was intern, we were adviced NOT to follow the manual blindly because, every persons body/brain reacts different way to different triggers. What is abnormal for one person (according to manual), may become normal for another person (which contradicts the manual). It is case to case basis and in my opinion, specially in case of mental illness, it is wrong to form a generalised trend. Otherwise there will be no difference between a doctor and a diploma holder therapist.
 
Itachi said:
your example actually proves my point.

WW1 soldiers had to fight for everything in a short period of time, for which they were not prepared nor they had any prior any experience. Hence, they suffered PTSD and depression. Had they were accustomed with wars like WW1, that wouldn't have been an issue.
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No. You have missed my point. Britain in 1915 was not Britain in 2015. The vast bulk of those men had to scrap every day of their lives, down the mines and in the mills, using machines and breathing air that could kill them, or in the fields, breaking their backs to bring in the harvest. There was no modern medicine, almost no motor vehicles. They were physically hard men, for whom playing professional cricket was a release, an easy life. They still got PTSD in the trenches.
 
JaDed said:
Why is it that only developed country like England see most stress related issues in cricket.Sorry to say but i see them every time saying something like this.They don't seem to have perspective on situations similar to like i'm not having it w.r.t to his life.
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Stress related issue are common among developed countries and not just in cricket. First of all, you'll notice that people in North America and Western Europe are much more nicer and kind towards others. People do not confront each other much in the western world, there is lack of genuinity among lots of people and it creates a disconnection among people. You'll probably seen in this scenario in movies or even in real life where this "nice guy" tries to impress a girl, by being nice, saying nice things but he'll get rejected. Why ? Because the guy isn't being genuine, he is being fake, he just wants to impress her so he'll say things that are too "nice" which aren't genuine. Her subconscious will pick that up. Communication is all subconscious. If you wear a bad attire to a party and you ask people "how does it look"?" you'll feel much more comfortable with a people that say "Doesn't suit you" or " I don't like the colour" than people who says "Wow it looks really nice" and "You look great". In your head, you know your are badly dressed. If everyone in that party told you that your attire looks great, chances are that you'll feel disconnected from everyone and you'll feel very lonely. Chances are that Trott was probably very lonely or hid himself from the people who truly cared about him.
 
Should never have returned to competitive international cricket IMO. Stuff like GAD cannot really be cured and professional sports requires you to cope with a lot of additional stress and it was unnecessarily putting your body through a lot of punishment. Was a fine opener for quite some time though and should get credit for that :)
 
Robert said:
No. You have missed my point. Britain in 1915 was not Britain in 2015. The vast bulk of those men had to scrap every day of their lives, down the mines and in the mills, using machines and breathing air that could kill them, or in the fields, breaking their backs to bring in the harvest. There was no modern medicine, almost no motor vehicles. They were physically hard men, for whom playing professional cricket was a release, an easy life. They still got PTSD in the trenches.
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They were prepared to work hard in the battle but were not prepared to see their comrades die, lose limbs and see humans dying. If you were to send poorest citizens from a 4th world country they too will experience PTSD. WW2 soldiers weren't trained for a year to face such gore and chaos, they weren't shown pictures of torn bodies prior to entering battlefields. One week of training and then off to the battlefield. There was a shooting in front of my door, I was scared as hell, I was freaking out. My dad wasn't scared because he saw war unfold in Sri Lanka. He has seen people die, torn bodies, relatives die so he his mind has already gotten used to gun shots and the aftermath. I was very young and I've seen shootings only in movies, when it happened near my doorstep I couldn't sleep for a day.
 
Strange that they shoved him to open the batting when he was coming back from a difficult time.

It's the sort of thing you'd expect PCB to do.
 
Thivagar said:
Stress related issue are common among developed countries and not just in cricket. First of all, you'll notice that people in North America and Western Europe are much more nicer and kind towards others. People do not confront each other much in the western world, there is lack of genuinity among lots of people and it creates a disconnection among people. You'll probably seen in this scenario in movies or even in real life where this "nice guy" tries to impress a girl, by being nice, saying nice things but he'll get rejected. Why ? Because the guy isn't being genuine, he is being fake, he just wants to impress her so he'll say things that are too "nice" which aren't genuine. Her subconscious will pick that up. Communication is all subconscious. If you wear a bad attire to a party and you ask people "how does it look"?" you'll feel much more comfortable with a people that say "Doesn't suit you" or " I don't like the colour" than people who says "Wow it looks really nice" and "You look great". In your head, you know your are badly dressed. If everyone in that party told you that your attire looks great, chances are that you'll feel disconnected from everyone and you'll feel very lonely. Chances are that Trott was probably very lonely or hid himself from the people who truly cared about him.
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Deep analysis mate.Honestly sounds like rich disease but that's just imo i guess living in India seeing so many people struggle everyday i find it weird at developed countries having such problems.People here are just happy to play and be part of something.
 
Absolutely sick to my stomach how the English media pressured him really. Vaughn being one of the culprits.
The guy was never an opener why did they not try him @3 before any hasty decisions were made?
He worked so hard to get back into that side for it to end so abruptly. This has no dignity whatsoever for a guy who had served a mediocre cricket nation and was one if the major cogs that led them to #1 in the world.
No matter how rich one's nation is class can never be bought, what a bunch of losers.
 
JaDed said:
Deep analysis mate.Honestly sounds like rich disease but that's just imo i guess living in India seeing so many people struggle everyday i find it weird at developed countries having such problems.People here are just happy to play and be part of something.
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It is kind of odd. You'll see people be depressed for no reason and anxiety for no reason. Younger generation now days can't communicate with other people well. They feel "awkward" talking to people that they don't know. Students go an entire semester(3 months) or full uni year without ever talking to their neighbors :facepalm:. You'll see people who are rich but yet hate their life. People rather text a class mate rather than call. If a lecture room is half empty and you go sit beside some one they will give you this" why are you not sitting at least 2 seats away from me ?" look. This is very common between 8 to 30 age group, thanks to internet. My 10 year old cousin once told me he didnt wanna say hi to his class mate that he saw at a store because then it would be "awkward". When I was 10, that word didn't exist. This is why everyone drinks over here and all of a sudden people become a bit too social. They'll tell you how much manly you look, they'll tell you how handsome you look, they'll tell you their secrets, they'll dance, twerk and etc. Take alcohol out of their system and bam they go back to being "normal" all awkward and weird. I think this is very common among non western countries as well. Look at young cricketers under 25 from every team, and look at their seniors, many of them are timid and shy.
 
Thivagar said:
It is kind of odd. You'll see people be depressed for no reason and anxiety for no reason. Younger generation now days can't communicate with other people well. They feel "awkward" talking to people that they don't know. Students go an entire semester(3 months) or full uni year without ever talking to their neighbors :facepalm:. You'll see people who are rich but yet hate their life. People rather text a class mate rather than call. If a lecture room is half empty and you go sit beside some one they will give you this" why are you not sitting at least 2 seats away from me ?" look. This is very common between 8 to 30 age group, thanks to internet. My 10 year old cousin once told me he didnt wanna say hi to his class mate that he saw at a store because then it would be "awkward". When I was 10, that word didn't exist. This is why everyone drinks over here and all of a sudden people become a bit too social. They'll tell you how much manly you look, they'll tell you how handsome you look, they'll tell you their secrets, they'll dance, twerk and etc. Take alcohol out of their system and bam they go back to being "normal" all awkward and weird. I think this is very common among non western countries as well. Look at young cricketers under 25 from every team, and look at their seniors, many of them are timid and shy.
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Wow i do get it and i need to reflect on myself as well ,btw what's your major?
 
For the best. He wouldn't have succeeded whether he opened, batted at #3 or down at #7. Either he hasn't gotten over his mental troubles or is just past it to play at the top level.

He was a good batsman for England and a likable person as well. :14:
 
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