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Was Idrissa Gueye right to refuse wearing PSG shirt featuring rainbow symbol?

Was Idrissa Gueye right to refuse wearing PSG shirt featuring rainbow symbol?


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Paris St-Germain's Idrissa Gueye refused to play in a match to avoid wearing a rainbow symbol in support of LGBTQ+ rights, BBC Sport understands.

The 32-year-old former Aston Villa and Everton midfielder was absent from Saturday's 4-0 win over Montpellier.

PSG boss Mauricio Pochettino said only that Senagalese Gueye missed the game for "personal reasons".

The French Football Federation (FFF) has reportedly written to Gueye to clarify why he was absent.

BBC Sport has approached Gueye's representatives for comment.

Crystal Palace's Cheikhou Kouyate and Watford's Ismaila Sarr have posted on social media in apparent support of their Senegal team-mate's stance.

Kouyate posted a picture of himself alongside Gueye on Instagram, with a caption calling Gueye "a real man". Watford winger Sarr posted a picture of him and Gueye accompanied by three heart emojis and the caption "100%".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61492696

Imo he was within his right to refuse. Secularist nations shouldn't force their life views on others.

Anyone believe he was wrong, if so why?
 
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PSG: the national ethics council of the FFF asks Gueye to explain himself

The National Ethics Council (CNE) of the French Federation has indeed sent him an unequivocal letter because of the gravity of the situation.

As L'Équipe reports, the organization writes: “One of two things, either these assumptions are unfounded and we invite you without delay to express yourself in order to silence these rumours.

For example, we invite you to accompany your message with a photo of you wearing the jersey in question.

Either these rumors are correct.

In this case, we ask you to be aware of the scope of your gesture and the very serious error committed.

The CNE continues: “The fight against the discrimination suffered by the different minorities, whatever they may be, is an essential fight at all times.

Whether it is skin color, religion, sexual orientation, or any other difference, all forms of discrimination are based on the same basis, which is the rejection of others because they are different from the majority.

The FFF organ therefore insists: “By refusing to participate in this collective operation, you are in fact validating discriminatory behavior, the refusal of the other, and not only against the LGBTQI + community.

The impact of football on society and the ability of players to represent a role model for those who admire them gives us all a special responsibility”.

https://newsrnd.com/sports/2022-05-...asks-gueye-to-explain-himself.ByxJ7dLzwc.html

Sounds like liberal fascism here.

The player is a Muslim, therefore he is against any promotion of homosexuality. France and others need to accept the world is large and not based on what they think is right.

I hope Idrissa dismisses this request to answer these absurd questions.
 
Is this the liberalism we keep hearing about? The fascist kind? You either agree with the liberals or you shall be condemned for an eternity?

What did I tell you, liberalism is just a euphemism for 21st century fascism/authoritarianism. Liberalism is bot interested in freedom, just slavery.

Don't be fooled.
 
Is this the liberalism we keep hearing about? The fascist kind? You either agree with the liberals or you shall be condemned for an eternity?

What did I tell you, liberalism is just a euphemism for 21st century fascism/authoritarianism. Liberalism is bot interested in freedom, just slavery.

Don't be fooled.

You were spot on a few years ago. Now we can see todays European Liberalism is in reality a form of fascism, demanding others to accept their views on life or if not they will be vilified.

The likes of Biden and Macron have been the leaders from their BLM or their fake womens rights which demand women remove clothes on beaches in France.
 
You were spot on a few years ago. Now we can see todays European Liberalism is in reality a form of fascism, demanding others to accept their views on life or if not they will be vilified.

The likes of Biden and Macron have been the leaders from their BLM or their fake womens rights which demand women remove clothes on beaches in France.

Europe is a fascist continent. Liberalism is just a sugar coating to conceal the true intentions and motives of Europe. We must remember that the so called liberal 'West' have waged wars (illegal), dropped bombs, committed war crimes, for one reason only - non compliance of western liberal views.

Liberalism is not only destroying the West, but has destroyed countless generations abroad, yet the audacity of liberals promoting freedom and democracy. Yes we witnessed gow liberals react when the vote doesn't go their way.

Western Liberalism is a lie and no rainbow will ever change this fact.
 
From Wiki - he's a born Senegalese and is a practicing Muslim.

Homosexuality is against his beliefs so he is well within his right to leave this French club and play in another country's club which respects his ways of life.

Bet he won't though.
 
From Wiki - he's a born Senegalese and is a practicing Muslim.

Homosexuality is against his beliefs so he is well within his right to leave this French club and play in another country's club which respects his ways of life.

Bet he won't though.
Why should he?!

Why should something deemed illegal only a few years ago be rammed down people's throats??
 
Why should he?!

Why should something deemed illegal only a few years ago be rammed down people's throats??

It shouldn't. That's why he should register his protest by having nothing to do with this club or France ever again.
 
It shouldn't. That's why he should register his protest by having nothing to do with this club or France ever again.

The club pay him money to kick a ball and shouldn’t make it mandatory for him to be involved in social statements / gestures. Even if the player is contractually obligated to attend / promote external social causes then it cannot be to the employees detriment.

This is a topic I find fascinating as even though I disagree with homosexuality, I believe in personal choice and each to their own mindset
 
its his right, unless he is contractually obliged to, in which case he should seek concractual amendments.
 
The club pay him money to kick a ball and shouldn’t make it mandatory for him to be involved in social statements / gestures. Even if the player is contractually obligated to attend / promote external social causes then it cannot be to the employees detriment.

But they are. If anything, this footballer should kick the club and go to another that respects his way of life.

If he remains, he is a sellout.
 
You cannot live in the modern world if you want to follow your religion to the dot. The liberalism that fights for Black rights also fights for LGBTQ rights. They support all historically oppressed communities.

Everything comes as a package. You cannot pick and choose.
 
I don't think it is an either or situation.

Both party have their own perspective and both have their own right.

He shouldn't play if that is against his belief. It is his right and no one should force him.

The authority has also right to not to select him since he doesn't follow what they stand for.
 
No different to Muslim players who choose not to wear Alcohol sponser on their kit , just because its a rainbow people making a bigger issue out of it.
 
But they are. If anything, this footballer should kick the club and go to another that respects his way of life.

If he remains, he is a sellout.

If my organisations makes me do anything else other than kick a ball (assuming I’m a footballer) then I can complain, no? We are talking about corporate governance, complaint procedures and employment rights etc. Only a donkey would quit their job every time their organisation give them something to complain about?
 
I don't think it is an either or situation.

Both party have their own perspective and both have their own right.

He shouldn't play if that is against his belief. It is his right and no one should force him.

The authority has also right to not to select him since he doesn't follow what they stand for.

I consider your point to be logical however if said player is not selected due to him not promoting gay rights due to his faith then he may have a claim for religious discrimination. I have no idea if the player would be successful in court and neither do I know French employment law but suspect it is not too dissimilar to the UK.
 
No different to Muslim players who choose not to wear Alcohol sponser on their kit , just because its a rainbow people making a bigger issue out of it.

Again a valid point however promoting alcohol for commercial profits is not the same as promoting the human rights of a gay person
 
More and more companies will promote their sponsors and global matters such as BLM and LGBT or even the Ukraine war. If your organisation chooses to do so then their should be in my opinion an option for an employee to decline to partake for personal beliefs?

If Liverpool were openly condemning the Ukraine war and Mohammed Salah wore the flag on his t shirt then that is fine but if Salah on his own accord wore a Palestine flag on his football football boots then he may be in breach of contract?

Didn’t a similar support for Muslims suffering in China end by Ozil end his Arsenal career?

I see this as two issues.

1) the rights of an employee to say no and not partake if against personal belief

2) the Islamic world needs to be consistent and united on their position on supporting minority group that faces homophobia I.e LGBT.

In my view we can offer the LGBT community sympathy and be clear that we do not support violence or discrimination against this community
 
It shouldn't. That's why he should register his protest by having nothing to do with this club or France ever again.

No. That’s wrong. Freedom of religion must be respected. Are we saying the club should get a free pass n this case and it’s the players who should go elsewhere? So you are preferring to side with the wrong policy of an institution over a guy who wants to exercise his basic right?
 
You cannot live in the modern world if you want to follow your religion to the dot. The liberalism that fights for Black rights also fights for LGBTQ rights. They support all historically oppressed communities.

Everything comes as a package. You cannot pick and choose.

Yes you can, if you follow Judaism, if you follow Islam, but the question is following religion in the West.

Western Liberalism doesn’t fight for rights, it pretends to stand for freedom, which clearly is not the case.
 
Should add, if it were a Jew who refused to wear the Rainbow in the West, no one would dare speak up due to accusations if anti-semitism.

This is Western Liberalism. One rule one, another rule for others.

Equality my foot.
 
More and more companies will promote their sponsors and global matters such as BLM and LGBT or even the Ukraine war. If your organisation chooses to do so then their should be in my opinion an option for an employee to decline to partake for personal beliefs?

If Liverpool were openly condemning the Ukraine war and Mohammed Salah wore the flag on his t shirt then that is fine but if Salah on his own accord wore a Palestine flag on his football football boots then he may be in breach of contract?

Didn’t a similar support for Muslims suffering in China end by Ozil end his Arsenal career?

I see this as two issues.

1) the rights of an employee to say no and not partake if against personal belief

2) the Islamic world needs to be consistent and united on their position on supporting minority group that faces homophobia I.e LGBT.

In my view we can offer the LGBT community sympathy and be clear that we do not support violence or discrimination against this community

A couple of points.

1. PSG is owned by Muslims. The owners have no issues with him not playing this game.

2. PSG are owned by Qataris , who have been hounded by liberals in the upcoming world cup esp in this matter. It seems PSG are just playing the game to keep people happy.



Should add, if it were a Jew who refused to wear the Rainbow in the West, no one would dare speak up due to accusations if anti-semitism.

This is Western Liberalism. One rule one, another rule for others.

Equality my foot.

Very true.

Jewish school faces closure for refusing to teach its young girls transgender issues despite its religious ethos being praised four years ago

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...aces-closure-refusing-transgender-issues.html

The school is still going strong.
 
Full credit for UTD for backing the player, and once again the game does not need this xxll crap to be rammed down the players.

 
Full credit for UTD for backing the player, and once again the game does not need this xxll crap to be rammed down the players.


The players have enough pressure on them & don’t need this extra rubbish to deal with .

As far as I know not a single player has been abused for being gay in the PL by fans .

They are promoting this devious lifestyle imo
 
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