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Was it right to drop Faheem Ashraf from the World Cup squad?

Was it right to drop Faheem Ashraf from the World Cup squad?


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The think-tank invested heavily in Faheem, and put their eggs in one basket when in it came to him. He was a regular pick since his debut in ODIs and he was regarded as a dead cert for the all-rounder role at the World Cup.

However it all went pear-shaped for him when it really mattered and of course he was sropped for the World Cup.

What do you think went wrong?
Was he never really good enough?
Has he been unlucky?
A loss of form at the wrong time?

Was it right to drop Faheem from the World Cup squad?
 
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In recent times, Faheem has not been worse than Hasan, Amir and Wahab. I haven't seen Faheem get destroyed by the opposition the same way Hasan and Wahab have. Sure he has been expensive at times but Hasan and Wahab completely lose it under pressure, and they can be far more expensive. If you compare their recent matches, both have struggled to pick up wickets, however, Faheem has comfortably picked up more wickets than Amir. In short, Faheem is certainly not worse than the previously mentioned bowlers. That being said, Faheem was in the team because of his potential as an all-rounder, but he has always failed with the bat. It simply comes down history, Amir, Hasan and Wahab have performed in the past, where Faheem doesn't have that.

It was kind of surprising they picked Hasnain over Faheem, but i guess they wanted extra pace.

Dropping Faheem makes sense because he has failed to deliver with the bowl, and most importantly with the Bat-which was the main reason why has was given so much importance until now.
 
Whether or not it was right decision to leave him out, it does disturb our team combination. Although he never mounted to much as a batsmen, and gave us false hope that he had a match winning innings in him in near future.
 
He looks so lost at this level, I actually feel sorry for him. I’m not even convinced whether he makes the Pakistan A team in limited overs on merit.

I look forward to see what he can do in the T20 blast later this summer because working with more competent English coaches in a better set-up may do him a world of good, but I don’t have much hope for him in LOI going forward.

He should turn his focus to red ball cricket as he makes the test side for SENA tours on merit.
 
His career is over unless he works on his batting.

No way does he make the team on bowling alone.
 
he needs to be given a break from national team now. it may be time to try out Aamer Yamin, Hasan Mohsin, or perhaps more of the Batting all rounders - not sure how good bowling is for likes of Adil Amin, Khusdil Shah.
 
He used to have a knack of taking wickets and scoring handy runs down the order. That's not the case anymore - he takes no wickets, bowls in a manner which is not threatening, and scores less runs than the tailenders. He peaked two years ago I'm afraid. As Inzi said, team requirements are more important than who the selectors have and have not invested in. Good decision to drop him.
 
It is beyond comprehension how this team stuck with Faheem Ashraf for so long in the first place . . Bilawal Bhatti, Amir Yameen, Hamad Azam, Amad Butt . . all of them have the ability to give better output than Faheem . . Faheem does absolutely nothing with the ball . . and he isn't really a batsman . . so while it sounds off that the team stuck with him for 2 yeras and dropped him at the last second . . and you can castigate the team management for that . . but its the right decision . . and he needs to do A LOT of work to be anywhere near the internaional setup . .

What do you think went wrong?
Things were never right in the first place.

Was he never really good enough?
Correct.

Has he been unlucky?
No. In fact, he has been awfully lucky to have played for Pakistan for so long . .

A loss of form at the wrong time?
When was he in form? Can't remember a single batting performance period . . (he is playing as an all rounder) . . and can't remember a solid bowling performance either in ODIs . .
 
It was the right decision. He doesn't make the team on bowling merit alone or batting merit alone. So what's the use of having him as a all rounder?
 
He should have been dropped a year ago if we go by merit.
Dropping him now is purely a failure of team management and it shows you can stay in this team for a longer time if you good relations with sarfaraz irrespective of whether you perform or not
 
Investment in the wrong player.

I wonder how things would have progressed if for example Ammad Butt or Aamer Yamin had been given more chances?
 
It was right to drop him. He really doesn't bring much to this team
 
I don’t understand how some people say dropping him disturbs our team balance. This guy was never good enough, luck was on his side. He should’ve never player international cricket. He is utter crap. Can’t bat at all. And is a toothless bowler.
 
Investment in the wrong player.

I wonder how things would have progressed if for example Ammad Butt or Aamer Yamin had been given more chances?

Ammad Butt is worth investing in . He has extra height and more pace so his bowling instantly becomes more threatening compared to Faheem.
 
Hes been dropped on the fact that he was supposed to provide us with an all round option which never materialised

He shouldve been the steady 4th bowling option and importantly the handy 30 runs down the order

The fact he hasnt made any runs in 2years of odi cricket means he has been the wrong invstment and therefore been ditched

Right decision
 
Faheem had a million opportunities with the bat. He just needed to win Pakistan one game with the bat to prove his worth. But it never happend.
 
He remains a reasonable bowler and definitely seems to have improved his pace and control over the last two years, but currently he is not good enough to make it on this aspect alone. Pakistan ideally needed him to play the number 8 role but his batting remains unproven despite several opportunities and even Hasnain and Shaheen outbatted him in the England series.

He either needs to go away, focus much more on his batting and come back in the Razzaq role OR work even harder on his bowling and no longer be considered an all rounder. Either way the door is open for him and Pakistan could do with Faheem, particularly if he goes the first route.
 
He shouldve been the steady 4th bowling option and importantly the handy 30 runs down the order

It is very puzzling that he was thrown the new ball as much as he was. Probably felt under pressure to perform up top which meant he neglected his batting.
 
Faheem was never a matchwinner like previous all-rounders we had like Razzaq.His bowling was non-threatening and batting rubbish.Playing an allrounder just for the sake of it never works.We got carried away thinking he is our version of Pandya or Stokes.
 
Faheem has to play as a bowling all rounder.

Problem is his batting never took off at International level , and with the ball he is simply not good enough to compete with specialist fast bowlers like Sherwani , Junaid , shaheen , etc.
 
If this was not right, then the meaning of the word ' right ' should be changed.

We gave him chances in less important matches than WC and he always failed, this dosen't mean he should go to the World Cup because he played for quite a few time. He should have been removed earlier, but was given ample time to prove himself.

It turned out that he was one of the worst players playing International cricket for us in past few years, it was his luck that he played 2 years on basis of Bangladesh Warm-up and Zimbabwe B matches.

Strange thing was, he was a poor bowler and a tailender batsman, but was called an all-rounder.

Will have to work extremely hard to get back into our team and perform in matches other than PSL.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My life goes the way Allah has planned but not the ways I have planned. Surely Allah is the best of planners. Thanks to Allah for everything.” <a href="https://t.co/HkPGI557QC">pic.twitter.com/HkPGI557QC</a></p>— Faheem Ashraf (@iFaheemAshraf) <a href="https://twitter.com/iFaheemAshraf/status/1132369343768125440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 25, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Wow. Compare this to how Junaid Khan responded. If anyone had to be immensely dissapointed, its Faheem given that Mickey Arthur had been heavily backing him for the last 2 years and he got dropped at the very end after making it in the original WC squad.
 
I haven't been following too closely lately but I thought Faheem was pretty good.

I checked the scores of the odd game here and there and from what I could tell, all bowlers were getting smashed, including specialists. So yeah I think it might have been harsh to drop him from the squad to replace him with a guy ilke Wahab who has proven himself to be a very expensive bowler in the past.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My life goes the way Allah has planned but not the ways I have planned. Surely Allah is the best of planners. Thanks to Allah for everything.” <a href="https://t.co/HkPGI557QC">pic.twitter.com/HkPGI557QC</a></p>— Faheem Ashraf (@iFaheemAshraf) <a href="https://twitter.com/iFaheemAshraf/status/1132369343768125440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 25, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Work hard learn how to hold bat and ball and don't blame Allah, please.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My life goes the way Allah has planned but not the ways I have planned. Surely Allah is the best of planners. Thanks to Allah for everything.” <a href="https://t.co/HkPGI557QC">pic.twitter.com/HkPGI557QC</a></p>— Faheem Ashraf (@iFaheemAshraf) <a href="https://twitter.com/iFaheemAshraf/status/1132369343768125440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 25, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Very good to see Faheem took this well. Hopefully he can learn how to bat properly and make a comeback after the WC.
 
I wanted to like him. When he played that innings against Bangladesh in the champions trophy warmups I was full of hope for him taking over the fast bowling all rounder spot we have had empty for such a long time.
But he never performed. The runs never came.. the big hits never came. He looked like a decent medium pacer and all but just on the basis of his bowling alone does he merit a spot on the team? With the bat he is not performing any better than Hasan or any of the tail Enders.

I think it was about time we give him a break. I fully back Wahab, Hasnain, hasan and amir in the squad. Faheem unfortunately needs to develop his batting quite a lot to be considered an all rounder.
 
Yes completely the right decision, Amir, Wahab, Hasan, Shaheen, can all not only bowl better than this bits and pieces cricketer, but they can even bat better than the "all-rounder"
 
I think Hasan has shown be can bat better than any of our bowlers.. he definitely has the skill of power hitting..
 
I hope Faheem makes a comeback after the WC.

He needs to work hard on his batting during his “off days” and hopefully it will pay off well.
 
Faheem wouldn't have been with the team for two years had he not performed in Bangladesh in the CT warmup match. People keep on saying he was an investment and whatnot the only reason he was an investment was because of a performance in a warmup game. Did absolute zilch after that. He's the only player I've seen play for so long due to a performance in a warmup game.

He's just not world class unfortunately. He may be able to perform in domestic but his skill level and talent is not up there with the world. Now we go into the world cup with that missing spot that Faheem had for the last two years, all due to poor management. Let this be a lesson learned and hopefully we give chances to more competent players after the world cup.
 
Do you know what you're saying? He isn't blaming anybody

He is not accepting his own shortcomings , as per him it was Allha's plan form him and he has nothing of his own plan. This moulviana mentality will not motivate him to work hard. Allah only helps those who help themselves.
 
He is not accepting his own shortcomings , as per him it was Allha's plan form him and he has nothing of his own plan. This moulviana mentality will not motivate him to work hard. Allah only helps those who help themselves.

What are you talking about??
Do you want him to make a whole post ranting about how bad he is?
And wth is a moulviana mentality?
 
He is not accepting his own shortcomings , as per him it was Allha's plan form him and he has nothing of his own plan. This moulviana mentality will not motivate him to work hard. Allah only helps those who help themselves.

Agreed 100%. No way he's going to be introspecting with that approach. Sadly that's just reflective of our society.

Har cheez Allah par chorh do
 
I haven't been following too closely lately but I thought Faheem was pretty good.

I checked the scores of the odd game here and there and from what I could tell, all bowlers were getting smashed, including specialists. So yeah I think it might have been harsh to drop him from the squad to replace him with a guy ilke Wahab who has proven himself to be a very expensive bowler in the past.
He was raised as a batting all rounder all these times but he has failed to convince anyone with the bat. His bowling has been tight but he lacks wicket taking ability.
 
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