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Wasim Akram ensured Pakistan did not win any World Cup after 1992: Aamir Sohail
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/wasimakramlive?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@wasimakramlive</a> kindly answer to what Salim malik and few others said don’t hide behind words answer the damn questions</p>— aamirsohail (@TheLeftySohail) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheLeftySohail/status/1258695375118090240?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 8, 2020</a></blockquote>
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I’m just glad someone’s keeping people entertained during these dry months. A genuine service to humanity.
The challenge has been thrown. Will Akram accept it remains to be seen.
Bro the hell is wrong with him? The guy takes you to an impressive final campaign in 1999, and we were beaten by the greatest aussie side, and the greatest cricketing side of all time, that went on to win 3 world cups afterwards... Akram's performances as captain were always head and shoulders above the rest. Even in 03, he was impressive as a bowler no doubt about it.
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Can't believe the breathtaking naivete on display by some posters here, can only imagine they were too young to watch or understand cricket during the 90s. If so many people are blaming Wasim Akram, it's not mere coincidence any more.
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Aamir Sohail, who was himself a part of Pakistan’s squad for many years, blamed cricketers’ egos and premature decisions of the cricket board in the 1990s for the country’s underachievements in the following years. Responding to cricket fans’ questions on his YouTube channel, Sohail blatantly said that removing Javed Miandad from captaincy in 1993 and handing Wasim Akram the rein of a team with an almost similar age group, was the biggest mistake Pakistan cricket board did.
Responding to a fan’s question, Sohail said,” You can see that in the 1990s, West Indies were on their downfall and two teams – Australia and Pakistan – had started surging. South Africa were also lagging behind. That was the time when Pakistan team members should have set aside their egos. Had it been the case, we would have dominated world cricket as Australia did in the following years. Aussie won World Cups as well. Unfortunately, high egos of the Pakistan players caused us heavily and we are still paying the price.”
Sohail captained Pakistan in six Tests in 1998, becoming the first Pakistani captain to defeat South Africa in a Test match. He captained Pakistan through 22 ODIs from 1996 to 1998. Also holding himself responsible, he said, “We could have done even better potentially. I am not exonerating myself from responsibility. I must have contributed to the damage.
“Now when Miandad was removed in 1993 and young Wasim was made the skipper, we did not learn from our past mistakes. Though we did not perform well in 1993 Triangular series in Australia, our performance in Test series against New Zealand was decent. The Wasim-Waqar rivalry was talk of the town as it was being sensed that it would take Pakistan cricket forward,” he said.
Sohail also added that Pakistan cricket went off track when Javed Miandad was removed as skipper. ” It was not well thought of decision from Pakistan Cricket Board. Despite being a successful batsman and skipper Miandad was not taken into confidence. Had he been retained as Test captain and with 1996 World Cup in mind Wasim Akram been given ODI captaincy, Pakistan cricket would have been on a different level today.”
It’s not the first time, the former Pakistan captain spoke against Akram. Just a month ago, Sohail had alleged that there was a ‘drama’ in Pakistan cricket in the 1996, 1999 and 2003 World Cups, where Wasim Akram was appointed as captain just before each edition of the tournament. Akram’s biggest contribution to Pakistan cricket is ensuring that they did not win these World Cups and he was not ‘sincere with Pakistan’, Sohail said.
https://indianexpress.com/article/s...-because-of-players-ego-aamir-sohail-6449948/
Responding to a fan’s question, Sohail said,” You can see that in the 1990s, West Indies were on their downfall and two teams – Australia and Pakistan – had started surging. South Africa were also lagging behind. That was the time when Pakistan team members should have set aside their egos. Had it been the case, we would have dominated world cricket as Australia did in the following years. Aussie won World Cups as well. Unfortunately, high egos of the Pakistan players caused us heavily and we are still paying the price.”
Sohail captained Pakistan in six Tests in 1998, becoming the first Pakistani captain to defeat South Africa in a Test match. He captained Pakistan through 22 ODIs from 1996 to 1998. Also holding himself responsible, he said, “We could have done even better potentially. I am not exonerating myself from responsibility. I must have contributed to the damage.
“Now when Miandad was removed in 1993 and young Wasim was made the skipper, we did not learn from our past mistakes. Though we did not perform well in 1993 Triangular series in Australia, our performance in Test series against New Zealand was decent. The Wasim-Waqar rivalry was talk of the town as it was being sensed that it would take Pakistan cricket forward,” he said.
Sohail also added that Pakistan cricket went off track when Javed Miandad was removed as skipper. ” It was not well thought of decision from Pakistan Cricket Board. Despite being a successful batsman and skipper Miandad was not taken into confidence. Had he been retained as Test captain and with 1996 World Cup in mind Wasim Akram been given ODI captaincy, Pakistan cricket would have been on a different level today.”
It’s not the first time, the former Pakistan captain spoke against Akram. Just a month ago, Sohail had alleged that there was a ‘drama’ in Pakistan cricket in the 1996, 1999 and 2003 World Cups, where Wasim Akram was appointed as captain just before each edition of the tournament. Akram’s biggest contribution to Pakistan cricket is ensuring that they did not win these World Cups and he was not ‘sincere with Pakistan’, Sohail said.
https://indianexpress.com/article/s...-because-of-players-ego-aamir-sohail-6449948/
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The Wasim Akram Story, why is he a legend?
It shocks me to see Wasim Akram be given the importance he is.
Whether it's as an analyst, coach, media advertisements, you name it Akram's face is there.
Heck, even a mobster held off from pulling the trigger in a road rage incident once he realized the guy in the other car is Wasim Akram.
Let's face it the guy's a cheater, what Asif and Butt did 10 years ago, Wasim had already done 25 years ago.
He's loved in India, he's a legend in Pakistan, It shouldn't be this way, not one bit.
Surely, there are consequences when you steal and cheat your country.
Forget about why he wasn't fined, jailed, punished, that's out of our hands.
But the respect and legend status he has is certainly in our hands, no?..
It shocks me to see Wasim Akram be given the importance he is.
Whether it's as an analyst, coach, media advertisements, you name it Akram's face is there.
Heck, even a mobster held off from pulling the trigger in a road rage incident once he realized the guy in the other car is Wasim Akram.
Let's face it the guy's a cheater, what Asif and Butt did 10 years ago, Wasim had already done 25 years ago.
He's loved in India, he's a legend in Pakistan, It shouldn't be this way, not one bit.
Surely, there are consequences when you steal and cheat your country.
Forget about why he wasn't fined, jailed, punished, that's out of our hands.
But the respect and legend status he has is certainly in our hands, no?..
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Aamir Sohail seems to be politically motivated in attacking Wasim Akram and Imran Khan (he also implied elsewhere that Wasim Akram did so on behest of Imran Khan).Aaamir Sohail joined PML-N back in 2011 and i think he is still member of it. Ever since 2011, he was been very harsh critic of Imran Khan.
By the way Aamir Sohail is very cozy with fixers like Salim Malik and Salman Butt. He kinda backs Salim Malik. It appears his whistle blowing in 90s was driven by grudge towards Wasim Akram.
By the way Aamir Sohail is very cozy with fixers like Salim Malik and Salman Butt. He kinda backs Salim Malik. It appears his whistle blowing in 90s was driven by grudge towards Wasim Akram.
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Innocent until proven guilty.
His role in Pakistan's 92 WC victory and being a huge ambassador for Pakistan cricket obviously may or may not have led certain things going his way
But at the end of the day it's innocent until proven guilty.
As far as love in India goes, Akram was basically Imran 2.0 (a slightly inferior version) in terms of charisma which is why he was so popular in India. He was basically what Kohli is to us as Pakistan fans. He was welcomed with open arms and he basically cosied up to them.
Charisma and superstar status goes a long way in cricket.
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Amir Sohail is the idiot that threw his wicket away against Ind at Banglore in 96 when we were well on top. The loser needs to look in the mirror for his role.
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Pakistan Cricket has historically, and still is, a mess.
I would not be surprised if any of the accusations made by AS were true. I also wouldn't be surprised if he was lying for political/media attention.
Akram has the status of a legend as many have pointed out, he won't stoop down to the level of AS and others.
AS needs hard evidence if he even wants to take this further, having a hunch isn't good enough. Unfortunately, most of Pakistan's ex-players are great friends with Wasim Akram, so AS won't get any statements supporting his hunch.
Case closed.
I would not be surprised if any of the accusations made by AS were true. I also wouldn't be surprised if he was lying for political/media attention.
Akram has the status of a legend as many have pointed out, he won't stoop down to the level of AS and others.
AS needs hard evidence if he even wants to take this further, having a hunch isn't good enough. Unfortunately, most of Pakistan's ex-players are great friends with Wasim Akram, so AS won't get any statements supporting his hunch.
Case closed.
Unfortunately it’s difficult to take much of what Aamir says very seriously. He was a troublemaker in his day, a decent player but not quite as good as people may think.
Some of what he says may be true but sadly has a boy cried wolf kind of feel which means it’s credibility is always questioned.
He seems to constantly have a chip on his shoulder and a score to settle. Back in 2000 he was part of the UK radio commentary team for England’s tour of Pakistan, during which his appalling unsubtle jibes against very recent teammates had English supporters calling in to complain about his lack of sincerity and obvious agenda.
Anyhow it was kind of refreshing to hear him commentate on the Sri Lanka/Bangladesh series last week. Commentary may not be great but still some useful insights from him where there was no associated baggage to weigh it down.
Some of what he says may be true but sadly has a boy cried wolf kind of feel which means it’s credibility is always questioned.
He seems to constantly have a chip on his shoulder and a score to settle. Back in 2000 he was part of the UK radio commentary team for England’s tour of Pakistan, during which his appalling unsubtle jibes against very recent teammates had English supporters calling in to complain about his lack of sincerity and obvious agenda.
Anyhow it was kind of refreshing to hear him commentate on the Sri Lanka/Bangladesh series last week. Commentary may not be great but still some useful insights from him where there was no associated baggage to weigh it down.
Not only the world cups Wasim Akram the legend has also led into some remarkable home series losses against some weaker teams in the 90s. That mighty Pakistan team just achieved nothing in that period except beating a depleted England, New Zealand and a series against west indies due to those corrupt players. And yes against India they were good except all the world Cup matches.
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I rewatched the highlights of the final and at the pitch report, Botham said it was a wicket to bat first. And [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] bro, Steve Waugh actually said he was happy to lose the toss and that he would have probably batted first too had he won the toss.
Wasim's decision to bat first was not controversial at the time. In hindsight, many have said that it was a suspicious one but even on that day, there was no real movement either through the air or off the deck. It was the ounce that got PAK . I think they would have lost comfortably- whether they batted first or second.
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I was under the impression that Aamir Sohail and Rashid Latif were the only 'clean' members of that 90s team.
Please correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think Pakistan even lost a single test at home under Wasim let alone a series? I’d be surprised if the number of tests he captained at home is in double figures.
Pakistan’s poor record during the late 90’s had plenty to do with a different captain being in place for almost every series, was a disruptive and frustrating period. The players deserve criticism but the administration was particularly weak during those times.
Being 'cozy' with Salim Malik doesn't mean that he wasn't 'clean'.
I am also not sure about it but in reality the whole Pakistan team was corrupt during those days and Wasim akram and salim malik were the main culprits. The only exceptions I think was latif, basit ali and amir sohail. And if I am not wrong akram was the captain during that faislabad test loss against South Africa.
Thanks for busting a popular myth.
Pakistan actually never lost a home series under Wasim Akram. Pakistan's horror show in home test series started in 1995 and following were the results (home series) after that, till the retirement of Wasim Akram.
Team - Result - Captain
Vs Sri Lanka Lost 2-1 Ramiz Raja
Vs Zimbabwe Won 1-0 Wasim Akram
Vs New Zealand Draw 1-1 Saeed Anwar
Vs South Africa Lost 0-1 Saeed Anwar
Vs West Indies Won 3-0 Wasim Akram
Vs Australia Lost 0-1 Aamir Sohail
Vs Zimbabwe Lost 0-1 Aamir Sohail
Vs Sri Lanka Lost 1-2 Saeed Anwar/Moin Khan
Vs England Lost 0-1 Moin Khan
You can see Wasim actually captained in only 2 home series during that time period and Pakistan won both.
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Why were there so many captains? How was Ramiz Raja - the Aakash Chopra of Pakistan - made captain?
Actually the whole pakistan team was corrupt just excluding 2-3 players. And the seeds were actually bown by none other than salim malik and Wasim akram himself thats why I gave credit to him also for those losses. And Wasim also played in that faisalabad test against south Africa but not as a captain, thanks for correcting me. Those results are really a horrible stats from a home team among top test nations. And there was an home series against aussies also in 94 which was just marginally won by Pakistan. That mark Taylor's team was good but was not a beast like Steve waugh's Australia but still they dominated in most of the part of that series and unfortunately at the end just lost it by one wicket.
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It wasnt just the changes in captaincy every series that caused losses There was no consistency in team selections during that period No strategy planning or focusing on big series
I recall big 3-4 players changing every test for some reason Many of the big name players in the pakistan team conveniently didnt play or werent available for whole series from the mid to late 90s
Wasim plays one and then misses the other 2 Ditto several others
The administration was pathetic in controlling what was going on and the whole cricket fell apart during this period
With all this yoyoing going no wonder pakistan had these results
I recall big 3-4 players changing every test for some reason Many of the big name players in the pakistan team conveniently didnt play or werent available for whole series from the mid to late 90s
Wasim plays one and then misses the other 2 Ditto several others
The administration was pathetic in controlling what was going on and the whole cricket fell apart during this period
With all this yoyoing going no wonder pakistan had these results
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Odds of fixing a test are harder than LOIs. Would be interesting to see Wasim the captain's ODI record
A dismal home record from the most overrated team in history - Pakistan's mid to late 90s side was a corrupt, shambolic mess that coasted along on natural talent of a few stars.
Pakistan's 1980s-early 90s team never lost at home, beat England and India away, drew three times with WI, and were the only team to win a Test and draw a series in the Caribbean. They were more consistent in winning multi-team tournaments too.
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Wasim was as corrupt as they come. Everybody knows this.
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Waqar was the goat..
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These idiots were more intent on arguing and fighting each than winning cricket games. We had talent across the team, we had excellent fast bowlers, good spinners and enough quality in the batting to be challenging Aus in the 90s. But bar the odd good performance, they underachieved badly. Poor leadership from the PCB, corruption was a defining culture and immoral players led to all the failures. The irony is that the WC final is match everyone says was fixed, wasn't. There was nothing suspicious about the match, they rightly batted 1st, and if Saeed Answar hadn't got his knickers in a twist over his bat grip, we would have put 250 on the board and would have probably won with that bowling lineup.
Revolts, infighting, poor performance by some captains and lot of fixing allegations were some of the reasons there were so many captains in 90s.
Ramiz Raja was appointed as captain for the first time after Saleem Malik was accused of match fixing during the tour of South Africa and Zimbabwe in 1995.
Pcb needed someone with the clean image, educated and senior player as captain and Ramiz Raja had these qualities but the problem was his own performance was average and he was a poor captain as well so he couldn't inspire the team, result was the first time a home series loss in many many years and first test series loss against Sri Lanka.
Here I wasn't implying that Wasim was not involved in anything. I was just stating the fact that Pakistan never lost a test home series under Wasim.
I agree that odds of fixing a test are harder than ODis. May be that is the reason mostly ODis were fishy in 90s.
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In pakistan the series are played in the winter where up north you can get a lot of adverse weather rain and fog
The zimbabwe loss was due to a 2nd innings collapse within a session and a half that pakistan were famous for in the 90s The best way to lose a test Fold for next to nothing in an innings
The rest of the series was affected by adverse weather
No idea why they frequently play cricket in dec and jan which are the worse weather wise in pakistan
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They were too busy trying to get each other sacked from the captaincy You see this in football where players stop playing for managers to get them sacked
Underperform lose games with possibility of fixing and wait for him to be sacked n get your preferred choice of a new captain
The whole batting lineup was failing too frequently in the late 90s early 2000s It was definitely on purpose due to infighting fixing and agendas
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