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West Indies [283/9] beat India [240] by 43 runs in the third ODI to level the series 1-1

Abdullah719

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India won the toss and elected to field.

India: Rohit Sharma, Shikhar Dhawan, Virat Kohli, Ambati Rayudu, MS Dhoni, Rishabh Pant, Bhuvneshwar Kumar, Kuldeep Yadav, Yuzvendra Chahal, Khaleel Ahmed, Jasprit Bumrah


West Indies Kieran Powell, Chandrapaul Hemraj, Shai Hope, Marlon Samuels, Shimron Hetmyer, Rovman Powell, Jason Holder, Fabian Allen, Ashley Nurse, Kemar Roach, Obed McCoy
 
What an incredible Bowler Bumrah is turning out to be. That line and length are a pure bliss.
 
Waste of time playing with these teams. And, not a good practice just before the tour of Aus.

4, 6, OUT. Looks like they're playing T10.
 
When did I say bowler shouldn't be credited?
Get a life brah!

I am against these African bros of Afridi, it doesn't give us good practice, especially considering we are touring to Aus as soon as we complete this useless series.

6 and 4 were against Khalil while Bumrah is the one who got Powell out with a snorter. When did i say you didn't give credit to bowler? I meant more than poor batting by WI it was Bumrah who did the magic by bowling 2 beauties.
 
6 and 4 were against Khalil while Bumrah is the one who got Powell out with a snorter. When did i say you didn't give credit to bowler? I meant more than poor batting by WI it was Bumrah who did the magic by bowling 2 beauties.

You asked me to give credit to the bowler as if I was denying it. They scored 4 and 6 against Bumrah too.
 
You asked me to give credit to the bowler as if I was denying it. They scored 4 and 6 against Bumrah too.

No i didnt. I meant wickets were more due to Bumrah's brilliance rather than WI batsmen playing t10. Before getting angry read carefully.

Pitch is good and ball is coming nicely to the bat so WI batsmen took advantage of power play which is quite normal on such pitches.
 
No i didnt. I meant wickets were more due to Bumrah's brilliance rather than WI batsmen playing t10. Before getting angry read carefully.

Pitch is good and ball is coming nicely to the bat so WI batsmen took advantage of power play which is quite normal on such pitches.

I read it. You shouldn't have quoted me then.

The subject was, I was talking about playing these poor batsmen before Aus series at the door, which is not good practice for the bowlers.
 
Is it just me or is Rohit looking very... large.
 
Commentators go silent every time a boundary is hit :facepalm:
 
Bumrah is already best Indian pacer ever (absolutely! I think he has surpassed Srinath & Zaheer) His next target is World League, he is out of Indian standards for fast bowlers!
 
Another one sided affair again I think...WI won't reach 300 ,at best they can reach 250. That is a nothing score against the mighty Indians.
 
Damn! Bumrah and his incredible yorkers! 147 clicks and Hope lost his hope.. No wonder he's the world No#1.
 
Happy to see Bhuvi get butchered. His test performance in conducive conditions has confused many including Indian team management and selectors that he's an ace ODI bowler. One look at his ODI record should dispel that notion.

India would be well served in pairing Bumrah with another strike bowler like Shami. The third pacer could be Umesh (an upgrade over Bhuvi). But lack of depth in terms of pacers is becoming a little apparent now.
 
Some posters here don't seem to have the necessary cricketing brain required to make a distinction between bad bowling and good batting.
 
38.58. That's what Bhuvi averages. 97 wickets in 93 games.

Where are our reserves? Is there no one who can take the second and third fast bowler spot?
 
Happy to see Bhuvi get butchered. His test performance in conducive conditions has confused many including Indian team management and selectors that he's an ace ODI bowler. One look at his ODI record should dispel that notion.

India would be well served in pairing Bumrah with another strike bowler like Shami. The third pacer could be Umesh (an upgrade over Bhuvi). But lack of depth in terms of pacers is becoming a little apparent now.

I would take Bhuvi over Umesh any day of the week. Umesh in ODIs is just rubbish. Period.
 
38.58. That's what Bhuvi averages. 97 wickets in 93 games.

Where are our reserves? Is there no one who can take the second and third fast bowler spot?

Shami should have been given more games before being discarded

Apart from that,we need to try youngsters like Rajpoot,Mavi or Krishna
 
Shami should have been given more games before being discarded

Apart from that,we need to try youngsters like Rajpoot,Mavi or Krishna

Agree. Shami is expensive too but he still takes some wickets. He has almost same number of wickets in almost half the number of ODIs as compared to Bhuvi. It baffles me how Bhuvi has the second fast bowler spot fixed for him.
 
Bhuvi isnt even that economical anymore a word which was used by his fans to justify his poor avg (dont know any one having worst avg currently with these many matches) and lack of wicket taking ability.
 
He has been mediocre. Averages 42 since 2017.Surely not everyone is suddenly batting better against him

The difference between him and Bumrah was too big today.

This. This is the main problem here. Not every bowler is going to be a Bumrah. Not every batsman is going to be a Kohli. They stand out from the rest because they are the best. Everyone cannot be the best.

That 21 runs over Bhuvi bowled was not a bad over. He wasn't bowling length balls. He bowled near the blockhole. And the last ball was a low full-toss which Nurse stepped out and turned into a knee-high full-toss.

Bowlers can bowl decently and still go for runs especially nowadays. Bhuvi didn't bowl too bad today. He's a good death bowler. And you need death bowlers in ODIs nowadays. Bhuvi overall may not be as good as Shami. But Bhuvi is much better at the death than any other bowler in the country today except for Bumrah. So having Bhuvi in the side is a strategic move and a good one given this team's balance.
 
I would take Bhuvi over Umesh any day of the week. Umesh in ODIs is just rubbish. Period.

Period for you. Not everyone else.

Umesh takes 1.3 wickets per match compared to 1 for Bhuvi while conceding 10 runs extra. I know exactly which bowler I'd choose. "Period".
 
This. This is the main problem here. Not every bowler is going to be a Bumrah. Not every batsman is going to be a Kohli. They stand out from the rest because they are the best. Everyone cannot be the best.

That 21 runs over Bhuvi bowled was not a bad over. He wasn't bowling length balls. He bowled near the blockhole. And the last ball was a low full-toss which Nurse stepped out and turned into a knee-high full-toss.

Bowlers can bowl decently and still go for runs especially nowadays. Bhuvi didn't bowl too bad today. He's a good death bowler. And you need death bowlers in ODIs nowadays. Bhuvi overall may not be as good as Shami. But Bhuvi is much better at the death than any other bowler in the country today except for Bumrah. So having Bhuvi in the side is a strategic move and a good one given this team's balance.

This! People bringing up Umesh as replacement looks like didn't see his terrible performance in the last 2 ODIs. Shami and Umesh have nothing to offer with the bat either. Bhuvi is a decent down order bat aswell. All those people who spoke about brining in Kauls, Deepak Chahars went into hiding now after their abysmal performances. We need to persist with Bhuvi and there's no point in talking about Nagerkotis and Mavis right now. Their time will come and they are not ready for the senior team yet. Only Shami looks like a right back up for Bhuvi, provided he improves his fitness, fielding and display some discipline. One off day doesn't make Bhuvi a bad bowler and comparing him with Bumrah is expecting too much out any Bowler. Bumrah and Kohli are once in a generation players!
 
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People who want Umesh should be given the punishment of forcefully making them watch Umesh' leg side half volleys. That would chop off a sizeable amount of years from their life.
 
He usually has such days. Its more of a norm for him.

Really i remember bumrah being taken for runs in ct final and asia cup final. Is that also the norm? Bhuvi going over 60 runs is definitely not the norm
 
We are struggling to dominate West Indies C team at home. Thanks to Kohli who is once again proving that this team relies on him too much. Rohit and Dhawan are the only other batsmen who can support him. Guys like Rayudu, Pant, Dhoni aren't going to win matches for India in the world cup.
 
I sense a rift between Dhoni and Kohli. They looked odd out there. Didn't talk much. Dhoni walked out with anger. Something to do with dropping him from the T20?
 
5 down and the batting is over, no all rounders either!

This series has definitely exposed some glaring mistakes in our ODI combination.
 
I sense a rift between Dhoni and Kohli. They looked odd out there. Didn't talk much. Dhoni walked out with anger. Something to do with dropping him from the T20?

Kohli has been under pressure to drop Dhoni, and Dhoni is not taking it lightly. I won't be surprised if Dhoni's dropped from WC squad as well.
 
We are struggling to dominate West Indies C team at home. Thanks to Kohli who is once again proving that this team relies on him too much. Rohit and Dhawan are the only other batsmen who can support him. Guys like Rayudu, Pant, Dhoni aren't going to win matches for India in the world cup.


These are good batting pitches. Our bowling don't get that much help. So it is upto batting to step up. But we have only 3 batsmen.
 
We are struggling to dominate West Indies C team at home. Thanks to Kohli who is once again proving that this team relies on him too much. Rohit and Dhawan are the only other batsmen who can support him. Guys like Rayudu, Pant, Dhoni aren't going to win matches for India in the world cup.

You already included Pant into this! So who else should bat & do wicket keeping? Probably we should import someone from outside! Or ask Kohli to keep wickets!
 
3 hundreds in a row for Kohli. What a guy. Lone warrior.
 
I sense a rift between Dhoni and Kohli. They looked odd out there. Didn't talk much. Dhoni walked out with anger. Something to do with dropping him from the T20?

I am not watching live. If that is true then it is the greatest thing to have happened to Indian Cricket this year! So we can at least hope for WC in 2023 if not next year!
 
You already included Pant into this! So who else should bat & do wicket keeping? Probably we should import someone from outside! Or ask Kohli to keep wickets!

Youngster Parthiv Patel is in the A team. Then we have a living legend like DK. We have got so many options. :inti
 
For all the hoopla, no one team relies on a said individual more than India.

It’s either King Kohli or Nothing.
 
I am not watching live. If that is true then it is the greatest thing to have happened to Indian Cricket this year! So we can at least hope for WC in 2023 if not next year!

They promoted Pant above DHoni first. Dropping him from T20 squad. His importance is getting lessened gradually.
 
Let Pant keep. Replace DHoni with Rahul.

I don't think what wrong can Rahul do in comparison to Dhoni! We need match-winners & century-makers in our team (even if they are not consistent!) They can take the game from the opposition pretty quickly! Even Rohit was inconsistent in the beginning! Pant & Rahul are those kind of players who should be persisted! It won't be too bad if one of Rohit or Kohli to sacrifice their batting position for Rahul for the betterment of team! This will at least stretch our batting line up to No.5...
 
True and that’s because you have a fantastic batting unit and great bowlers who can tie the opposition down.

But in a chase like this, you know if Kohli falls then so does India.

You are right. We managed to tie the last match against West Indies. :inti
 
This. This is the main problem here. Not every bowler is going to be a Bumrah. Not every batsman is going to be a Kohli. They stand out from the rest because they are the best. Everyone cannot be the best.

That 21 runs over Bhuvi bowled was not a bad over. He wasn't bowling length balls. He bowled near the blockhole. And the last ball was a low full-toss which Nurse stepped out and turned into a knee-high full-toss.

Bowlers can bowl decently and still go for runs especially nowadays. Bhuvi didn't bowl too bad today. He's a good death bowler. And you need death bowlers in ODIs nowadays. Bhuvi overall may not be as good as Shami. But Bhuvi is much better at the death than any other bowler in the country today except for Bumrah. So having Bhuvi in the side is a strategic move and a good one given this team's balance.

How do you justify the 42 average then
 
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