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Amjid Javed

Amjid Javed

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Game starts tmoz, so will this be another boring high scoring draw with both sides batting up runs galore against pop-gun attacks? Or will either side manage to take 20 wickets and win the series?
 
Another draw for my money. I think this series is destined to end 0-0 after 4 tests which is really bad for test cricket on the whole.

Too many draws these days, pitches should be alot greener and bouncier.
 
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Selectors don't really give a rat's ass about Lara's wishes for a FAST bowler.

India in West Indies 2006

West Indies announce unchanged squad

Cricinfo staff

June 29, 2006

Despite Brian Lara's plea for an extra fast bowler, the West Indies selectors have made no changes to the team for the final Test at Jamaica beginning tomorrow. West Indies, in fact, have gone with an unchanged squad for the last two Tests.

John Carew, the convenor of selectors, hoped for a win against India, to end the season on a positive note. "We are definitely on the upgrade and will be looking to end the season with a win against the Indians at Sabina Park," Carew told Press Trust of India.

"The last seven years have brought about positive results from the Sabina track, and I will be hoping that this will continue in the final match, with the West Indies being on the victorious end," he said.

Before the announcement of the squad Brian Lara had said that there was a lot of confidence for the team to be gained from St Kitts Test, but had also hinted in no uncertain terms about the need for an additional quick. "But we played an extra batsman - that meant we were less a bowler - and I'll say it again, if you want to get 20 wickets, you must pick the players that can get them." With Bennett King, the coach, being part of the selection panel, Lara would have hoped that he would be tossing the ball to Jermaine Lawson or Tino Best to open the bowling at Sabina Park.

West Indies had scored 581 in the first innings of the St Kitts Test and bowled India out for 20 runs short of follow-on, but did not enforce the follow-on, owing mostly to bowler-fatigue. India did attempt chasing the West Indies' set target of 392, but it was mostly given up after Virender Sehwag lost his wicket with 283 more runs still needed for a lead in the series.

West Indies and India have played all three Tests out for a draw, so Jamaica will see both the teams going for a win to seal the series.

Squad: Daren Ganga, Chris Gayle, Brian Lara (captain), Ramnaresh Sarwan (vice-captain), Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Runako Morton, Marlon Samuels, Dwayne Bravo, Denesh Ramdin, Ian Bradshaw, Pedro Collins, Corey Collymore, Jerome Taylor.

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I'd bring in a FAST bowler, Lawson, Powell, or Best in place of Morton. He isn't going to play in the final Test and he hasn't played any test so far anyways.
 
The selectors publicly undermining Lara as captain by not giving him a fast bowler for the second test on the trot, when they badly need one!!
 
Raz said:
The selectors publicly undermining Lara as captain by not giving him a fast bowler for the second test on the trot, when they badly need one!!
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There arent many available to be honest.

Tino best is a liability and looked crap against zimbabwe. Its all good having bit of pace but Tino as a player has gone backwards.

Lawson has still got issues with his action and WICB selectors wont take the risk.

That leaves darren powell and fidel edwards (if hes fit).

W.I fast bowling resources aint that great.
 
I'd much rather have Best, Lawson, or Powell in the side then Bradshaw.
 
Amjid Javed said:
There arent many available to be honest.

Tino best is a liability and looked crap against zimbabwe. Its all good having bit of pace but Tino as a player has gone backwards.

Lawson has still got issues with his action and WICB selectors wont take the risk.

That leaves darren powell and fidel edwards (if hes fit).

W.I fast bowling resources aint that great.
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They cartainly aren't but why Darren Powell isn't in the squad at least is something I fail to understand.
 
Easatheman said:
I'd much rather have Best, Lawson, or Powell in the side then Bradshaw.
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Bradshaw offers a bit of batting as well, which is why he is probably preferred over the other three.
 
Raz said:
They cartainly aren't but why Darren Powell isn't in the squad at least is something I fail to understand.
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Ring the WICB selectors and ask them :p
 
Raz said:
Bradshaw offers a bit of batting as well, which is why he is probably preferred over the other three.
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Most teams have this policy now of picking mediocre bowlers who can bat abit rather than a good bowler who cant bat!
 
Raz said:
Bradshaw offers a bit of batting as well, which is why he is probably preferred over the other three.
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Best offers with the bat.

He played very well in Sri Lanka. In fact, he looked better than alot of the top order against Murali! :O

He averaged 21 making, 8, 26, 27*, and 4.
 
Easatheman said:
Best offers with the bat.

He played very well in Sri Lanka. In fact, he looked better than alot of the top order against Murali! :O

He averaged 21 making, 8, 26, 27*, and 4.
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Yeah but best tends to jack diddly sqaut with ball, he jumps around grunt and trying to intimidate batsmen but doesnt have ability with ball to back it up!
 
Amjid Javed said:
Yeah but best tends to jack diddly sqaut with ball, he jumps around grunt and trying to intimidate batsmen but doesnt have ability with ball to back it up!
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He has ability, just hasn't produced the results consistently that many expect of him so far. :p
 
Two negative teams with poor bowling attacks on a batsmans paradise. Seems like a result is inevitable *yeah right*
 
Amjid Javed said:
Yeah but best tends to jack diddly sqaut with ball, he jumps around grunt and trying to intimidate batsmen but doesnt have ability with ball to back it up!
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Plenty of ability, waiting for him to come up with the goods. On his day, as Ian Chappel will agree, he is a very good bowler.
 
Raz said:
He has ability, just hasn't produced the results consistently that many expect of him so far. :p
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Tino best is that poor he makes sami look decent! ;-)
 
Awesome Anjum said:
Two negative teams with poor bowling attacks on a batsmans paradise. Seems like a result is inevitable *yeah right*
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exactly. Flat picth + pop gun bowlers + decent batsmen = :28: :28:
 
I just can't see West Indies winning this series with their negative team selection. I only see a draw or Indian win on the cards.
 
despite the fact that there have been 3 draws this has been a keenly contested series and all the games went into the last hour of play which is pretty good.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Game starts tmoz, so will this be another boring high scoring draw with both sides batting up runs galore against pop-gun attacks? Or will either side manage to take 20 wickets and win the series?
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Man you confused me. I thought the match was on last night. I predict a west Indies Victory. If its a draw or West Indis wins India Come below Pak in ICC Ranking and even if India Wins we remain third on point basis. Now if we beat England in tests we will be the No. 2 Side Inshallah.
 
I bet India will be all out for 50 :)))

Then Lara will score 800

Then India will be all out for 25 because of Marlon Samuels's brilliant off spin bowling

:)))
 
zMario said:
I bet India will be all out for 50 :)))

Then Lara will score 800

Then India will be all out for 25 because of Marlon Samuels's brilliant off spin bowling

:)))
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:))) :| :20:
 
Amjid Javed said:
Tino best is that poor he makes sami look decent! ;-)
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You're right on that count.

I havent seen any of this series and have absolutely no regrets about it
 
Daoud said:
You're right on that count.

I havent seen any of this series and have absolutely no regrets about it
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I'll watch Day 5 of this match. Then, when WI win, or its drawn, I can celebrate Pakistan being at #3 in the ICC Test Rankings :)
 
Amir said:
I just can't see West Indies winning this series with their negative team selection. I only see a draw or Indian win on the cards.
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Ditto for this final test.
 
We will draw the game but that is good enough. It will feel like a defeat for the Indians.
 
0.3 Collins to Sehwag, OUT, Pedro Collins strikes, what a start for West Indies, on the pads, Sehwag turns it around, Sarwan at short leg takes a good reflex catch.
V Sehwag c Sarwan b Collins 0 (2b 0x4 0x6) sr: 0.00
0.3 Collins to Sehwag, OUT, excellent delivery swinging away outside the off stump, beats the outside edge. :20: :20:

Crapinfo as some one said co correctly.
 
this is a great start for windies!

keep it up boyS!!!
 
hahahahhahahahhaha

india 8-2 after 13 overs looooooool
 
India just struggling initially against a pumped-up West Indian opening attack. Sehwag and Jaffer never really got an opportunity to settle in, the quicks just came at them with all guns firing.Both Pedro Collins and Jerome Taylor were especially impressive with their line and pace. There's definitely something in this pitch, but its beenaccentuated by the quality of the bowling.
 
Shaf said:
run-rate 0.80 PER OVER :)) :)) :))
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2 wickets down, the WI are bowling very well, India is playing according to the situation, they dont want to los anymore wickets.
 
What rubbish Cricket from India. 29/2 after 29 over. Dam they should be striped off their test status. Seriously how many of you have seen such slow Cricket from any Test playing nation?
 
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A Dravid and Laxman special going on here. I suggest taking a kip for an hour wake up and see if the scorecard has 10 more runs on it.
 
Playa said:
2 wickets down, the WI are bowling very well, India is playing according to the situation, they dont want to los anymore wickets.
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Now thats a cracker:)):)):)):)):)):)):)):)))
And BTW the actual reason lies here:
Thanks guys! It's been progress at snail's pace as far as Indian fans are concerned; Very few runs and just two boundaries in the entire session - not too many Indian fans would have enjoyed that. Here's a fact that will keep you interested - again pertaining to the Sabina Park.

Cricinfo fact file: The Sabina Park, where West Indies and India have locked horns in the final test of the 4-match series, has been witness to the shortest match in the history of test cricket. The West Indies - England test match in 1998 lasted all of 62 deliveries (action packed though). England were reduced to 17 for 3 in 10.1 overs after chosing to bat first, when the match was abandoned because the pitch was considered dangerous to play on. This is the only record of a test match being abandoned after it had started because a pitch was deemed 'dangerous' to play on. Click here to read Christopher Martin Jenkins report from the Elecronic Telegraph about the test match.
 
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ShowStopper said:
What rubbish Cricket from India. 29/2 after 29 over. Dam they should be striped off their test status. Seriously how many of you have seen such slow Cricket from any Test playing nation?
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That's a bit extreme but I bet Indian fans are quite ticked off by this RR
 
ShowStopper said:
Now thats a cracker:)):)):)):)):)):)):)):)))
And BTW the actual reason lies here:
Thanks guys! It's been progress at snail's pace as far as Indian fans are concerned; Very few runs and just two boundaries in the entire session - not too many Indian fans would have enjoyed that. Here's a fact that will keep you interested - again pertaining to the Sabina Park.

Cricinfo fact file: The Sabina Park, where West Indies and India have locked horns in the final test of the 4-match series, has been witness to the shortest match in the history of test cricket. The West Indies - England test match in 1998 lasted all of 62 deliveries (action packed though). England were reduced to 17 for 3 in 10.1 overs after chosing to bat first, when the match was abandoned because the pitch was considered dangerous to play on. This is the only record of a test match being abandoned after it had started because a pitch was deemed 'dangerous' to play on. Click here to read Christopher Martin Jenkins report from the Elecronic Telegraph about the test match.
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India are struggling, the WI paceman are bowling very well, the runs are very hard to score, but I'm still confident India can pull off a win.
 
Playa said:
India are struggling, the WI paceman are bowling very well, the runs are very hard to score, but I'm still confident India can pull off a win.
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hahahahahahahaha @ pull off a win!!!!
 
Seems like India is playing for a Series Draw. I am sure everyone remembers Karachi test 34/6 and Pakistan had their back against wall but still managed to score at decent RR. This is torture for anyone watching.
 
I feel sorry for the average indian fan, seems like a draw is like a win to them
 
shyte, dhoni's gotta do something now, come on india, buck up
 
India 83/5

west indies have had a habit of letting lower order and tails wrack up runs! i hope they knock over india for 120-150 max!
 
Yes dhoni gone. come on W.I!

INDIA CHOCKING in another series decider!
 
50.2 Collymore to Dhoni, OUT, GONE! Short ball on off, Dhoni goes for his favorite cut shot but can only hit it to Dwayne Bravo in the slips, what a good catch, made it look so simple, another Indian falls prey to this disciplined bowling attack, they're in tatters here at Sabina Park, what a batting display, check one more for the Windies

hehehehe

4 more to go.
 
India 102/6 @ tea

i just hope west indies dont fluff it here!
 
ziggy said:
Has Dhoni ever performed under pressure?
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Dhoni is a flat track bully.

He hasn't done **** in this series. Don't see what the fuss is about him, he's scored 500 odd runs in his 19 innings.

Not something special.
 
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Just got back in and saw the score

:))) :))) :))) :))) :)))
 
127/6
Dravid and Kumble playing very watchfully. Dravid has played a brilliant innings in all honesty. He has not played 1 false stroke and has been solid as a rock. He's starting to cash in now and find the gaps. These sorts of innings make him the best batsmen in the world.
 
Dravid's vigils might be useful for the team but they are damn boring to watch. :O

Kumble showing his guts and determination as a batsman, hanging in there while other FTB's lamely surrendered.
 
I agree with you Rob but its so boring that it becomes a pain to watch.
 
Patience is a virtue. I don't see anything wrong with grinding out your runs. If there are 5 days, why not use them?
 
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