West Indies vs Pakistan | 1st T20I | Lauderhill | August 01 | Pre-Match Discussion

[The Bald Eagle]

After getting whitewashed by the Aussies, Windies all set to lock horn with Pakistan in the 3-match T20I series

For cricket aficionados, from the vibrant city of Lauderhill, will welcome you for an entertaining day of Pakistan and West Indies in USA, 3 T20I Series, 2025 action. The historic Central Broward Park & Broward County Stadium plays host as West Indies squares off against Pakistan in what promises to be a close affair.

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[The Bald Eagle]

I think Pakistan will be poor against Windies, there are not Aussies and are having a bad patch

 

[sweep_shot]

West Indies have won something like 2 games out of last 20 T20Is. They are going through a bad phase in T20.

Opportunity for Pakistan to win the series 2-1 or even 3-0.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Aus vs WI was played on high scoring pitches. It might be a positive for the likes of Harris and Hasan Nawaz. WI will be tough opponents just like Bang were.

 

[Omer2002]

Pakistan will lose 3 0 in T20s and maybe win one One day

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

The irritating force meets the unlikable object

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

Australia just thrashed WI 5 to nothing. Let us see what can this eleven do

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

The irritating force meets the unlikable object

Why west indies record vs pakistan is minnow level any idea bro in t20 i thought west indies are king of this format?

 

[BunnyRabbit]

The irritating force meets the unlikable object

More like the buzzing bee meets the deaf human.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Why west indies record vs pakistan is minnow level any idea bro in t20 i thought west indies are king of this format?

Probably because we used to be great in T20 even when we were garbage in every other format. Now we are just garbage across the board

 

[Markhor]

Wooden Spoon derby. This should be fun.

 

[sweep_shot]

Wooden Spoon derby. This should be fun.

T20 venue is in Florida (all 3 T20s). It should be a high-scoring series.

 

[Rana]

Pakistan will lose 3 0 in T20s and maybe win one One day

WI forced the PCB for one dayers because they want to whitewash Pakistan and up their rankings for World Cup qualification

 

[Devadwal]

Is this same ground where Pakistan officialy out of the 2024 World T20? . If yes then surely this is historic ground as mentioned by Op

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Probably because we used to be great in T20 even when we were garbage in every other format. Now we are just garbage across the board

Garbage across the board with a garbage (cricket) board.

 

[followed]

Pakistan should beat West Indies easily.
Pakistan has dominated west Indies like they have dominated no other team
Pak vs westindies t20is

Matches played-21
Pak won-15
West Indies won-3
No result -3

 

[sweep_shot]

Pakistan should beat West Indies easily.
Pakistan has dominated west Indies like they have dominated no other team
Pak vs westindies t20is

Matches played-21
Pak won-15
West Indies won-3
No result -3

Wow!

Didn't know it was that one-sided.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Do not underestimate the Windies and Pakistan. Pakistan just got defeated by Bangladesh, and you can expect such a pathetic performance yet again.

I am expecting windies to win this game actually.

 

[mominsaigol]

WI forced the PCB for one dayers because they want to whitewash Pakistan and up their rankings for World Cup qualification

Ironically they have a chance in odi lol. Middle order isnt that good but monster top order tbf

 

[Greenstorm]

Pakistan will win this series.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Pakistan vs West Indies T20 International Series

Lauderhill

The national squad practiced for the second consecutive day at Broward County Stadium in Lauderhill.

Coaches assigned different targets to players during net practice based on the playing conditions.

Batters focused on power-hitting drills.

The first T20 match between Pakistan and West Indies will be played on 31st July.


View attachment WhatsApp Video 2025-07-30 at 11.07.54_16711640.mp4

 

[Rana]

Ironically they have a chance in odi lol. Middle order isnt that good but monster top order tbf

Their middle order is getting stronger

Shai Hope is their Bobsy upgraded and also they have that new bloke Carty

These guys stood their ground against PCB to hold ODIs even though PCB were adamant to have 6 T20s

They ain’t going to turn up to be rolled over!

 

[mominsaigol]

Their middle order is getting stronger

Shai Hope is their Bobsy upgraded and also they have that new bloke Carty

These guys stood their ground against PCB to hold ODIs even though PCB were adamant to have 6 T20s

They ain’t going to turn up to be rolled over!

Was talking about Pakistan. Our middle order isnt strong but we have a monster top order. Saim and Fakhar make for a good opening combo and babar is still semi decent in odi despite lack of form.

Problem comes from rizzu and below where the balance is shifted and everyone has to up their scoring rate to keep up with rizwan

 

[Rana]

Do not underestimate the Windies and Pakistan

So,

Who should we underestimate in this series?

 

[Rana]

Was talking about Pakistan. Our middle order isnt strong but we have a monster top order. Saim and Fakhar make for a good opening combo and babar is still semi decent in odi despite lack of form.

Problem comes from rizzu and below where the balance is shifted and everyone has to up their scoring rate to keep up with rizwan

Oh yes, apologies for misreading

Have you heard Basit Ali’s latest podcast? He’s telling Bobsy and Rizzu to not listen to what team management says and just do your own thing and make runs.

The agenda guys are looking for 50s off 70 balls to demand their return in the Asia cup T20 squad

 

[BouncerGuy]

So,

Who should we underestimate in this series?

Let Pakistan be in that place... they need to do better job..

 

[mominsaigol]

Oh yes, apologies for misreading

Have you heard Basit Ali’s latest podcast? He’s telling Bobsy and Rizzu to not listen to what team management says and just do your own thing and make runs.

The agenda guys are looking for 50s off 70 balls to demand their return in the Asia cup T20 squad

Australia in odi and t20 are transitioning to a more aggressive approach

Travis Head, Josh Inglis, Cameron Green, Mitchell Owen, Mattew Short, Alex Carey, Mitch Marsh as well as Backup such as Renshaw and upcoming line of batters like campbell kellway, Harry Dixon and many others.

It seems like Copper connelly and a few other dead baggage are being kicked now. Jfm and Sam Konstas experiment os likely ending as Green and Owen are effectively replacing them.

Meanwhile Pakistan is still stuck with the same tried and tested formula.

Abdullah Shafique? How was Farhan not selected in odi's over him? In which universe is Farhan worse then Abdullah in any format?

Its good to see hasan nawaz in odi but on what basis is Rizzu making it into odi? That too as captain? His whiteball chapter should be perma closed with only test as his sole format?

This is what I hate about PCB, 2 steps forward and 2 steps back.

 

[Ball Blazer]

Hoping WI do not whitewash Pakistan in this series. Both are carrying an underdog form

 

[Rana]

Its good to see hasan nawaz in odi but on what basis is Rizzu making it into odi? That too as captain? His whiteball chapter should be perma closed with only test as his sole format?

It’s the Pakistani public and influential sports journalists.

They don’t have a real sense or clue about cricket and what’s going on outside. Pakistan generally is a bankrupt cricketing state where even the supposed intellectuals have stalled in their understanding of the game since Wasim Akram retired.

 

[Rana]

It just had to be held in “Lauder”hill of all places didn’t it?

 

[mominsaigol]

It’s the Pakistani public and influential sports journalists.

They don’t have a real sense or clue about cricket and what’s going on outside. Pakistan generally is a bankrupt cricketing state where even the supposed intellectuals have stalled in their understanding of the game since Wasim Akram retired.

Fr, my own cousin stated this

Momin Bro, Fakhar is very inconsistent, only performs one in 10 games, please let your hate for Rizwan subside, as we need consistency.

^^ Now if my own family members are sharring this sentiment then what can i do? I guess we should ask Australia to just kick Green and Owen out and replace them with Usman Khawaja and copper connely in odi .

 

[Rana]

When Pakistan lost the second T20i against Bangladesh (subsequently the series), I remember Basit Ali was ranting and blaming Travis Head, Abhishek Sharma etc for destroying Pakistan cricket….because Pakistan is trying to find players of their mould

These are the types of clowns you have had playing Test cricket for Pakistan, they have held coaching roles in SNGPL, they have found you crap players like Rizwan and shoved them down your throat as if it’s Adam Gilchrist

 

[Rana]

Fr, my own cousin stated this

Momin Bro, Fakhar is very inconsistent, only performs one in 10 games, please let your hate for Rizwan subside, as we need consistency.

^^ Now if my own family members are sharring this sentiment then what can i do? I guess we should ask Australia to just kick Green and Owen out and replace them with Usman Khawaja and copper connely in odi .

Phattu mentality is prevalent in 99% of the Pakistan fans

One bloke I Know is desperate to prove to me Babar is needed badly in T20s

I’m not sure he understands what Babar offers and in what position

 

[harshjoshi87]

Pakistan will beat this third class garbage money hungry team in every match on this tour.

 

[mominsaigol]

When Pakistan lost the second T20i against Bangladesh (subsequently the series), I remember Basit Ali was ranting and blaming Travis Head, Abhishek Sharma etc for destroying Pakistan cricket….because Pakistan is trying to find players of their mould

These are the types of clowns you have had playing Test cricket for Pakistan, they have held coaching roles in SNGPL, they have found you crap players like Rizwan and shoved them down your throat as if it’s Adam Gilchrist

So what should Pakistan do? Try to emulate Misbah for t20?

Rizwan is the successor to Misbah. I have nothing against Rizzu and actually want him to succeed and he can in test format. He is a very good test keeper bat but he doesnt know how to adjust for odi and t20. These formats aren't built for him and he doesn't have many strokes to adjust to this format.

Babar should play both tests and odi, no issues their. T20 isnt babar's format. He is a crappie bootleg version of Williamson, Root, Smith etc etc and hence should follow their mould and realise t20 isnt for them.

Abdullah Shafique should be kicked out of every format and replaced with Shabzada Farhan who is a solid all format option for Pakistan.

Pakistan also needs to get out of this habit of playing 1970's test cricket and draft their t20 cricketers into test to improve technique.

Imam, Abdullah, Babar, Rizwan, Kamran Ghulam, Saud Shakeel and Agha make for an extremely average and one note test lineup whereas the likes of Australia and England are incorporating Cameron Green, Josh inglis, Harry Brook, Ben duckett, Travis Head and many more into their test lineup.

 

[Rana]

So what should Pakistan do? Try to emulate Misbah for t20?

Rizwan is the successor to Misbah. I have nothing against Rizzu and actually want him to succeed and he can in test format. He is a very good test keeper bat but he doesnt know how to adjust for odi and t20. These formats aren't built for him and he doesn't have many strokes to adjust to this format.

Babar should play both tests and odi, no issues their. T20 isnt babar's format. He is a crappie bootleg version of Williamson, Root, Smith etc etc and hence should follow their mould and realise t20 isnt for them.

Abdullah Shafique should be kicked out of every format and replaced with Shabzada Farhan who is a solid all format option for Pakistan.

Pakistan also needs to get out of this habit of playing 1970's test cricket and draft their t20 cricketers into test to improve technique.

Imam, Abdullah, Babar, Rizwan, Kamran Ghulam, Saud Shakeel and Agha make for an extremely average and one note test lineup whereas the likes of Australia and England are incorporating Cameron Green, Josh inglis, Harry Brook, Ben duckett, Travis Head and many more into their test lineup.

I sense there is a serious stubbornness in most of these ex Test cricketers who have TV jobs, a stubbornness to not evolve their mindset and mentality of the game from the time and era they played it in.

They want to argue that their way of thinking and playing is the way that would have been successful and appropriate in the modern age too.

“We were fine back then, we will be fine today as well”

I really don’t think that’s the case. A lot of great players of the past (especially bowlers) would not have been anywhere near as successful in today’s cricket the way they were in the 90s. It’s not an issue though, we will respect you for your services for that time. However, you lose a lot of respect if you do not realise and understand the way the game is evolving and what it takes to be at the top…and what it takes to make your team the top team in this day and age. This is where I feel too many of these guys are lacking massively, and it’s also driven by agendas generated through money and PR as well.

 

[Mamoon]

InshAllah West Indies, like Bangladesh, will save us from noise pollution.

 

[mominsaigol]

I sense there is a serious stubbornness in most of these ex Test cricketers who have TV jobs, a stubbornness to not evolve their mindset and mentality of the game from the time and era they played it in.

They want to argue that their way of thinking and playing is the way that would have been successful and appropriate in the modern age too.

“We were fine back then, we will be fine today as well”

I really don’t think that’s the case. A lot of great players of the past (especially bowlers) would not have been anywhere near as successful in today’s cricket the way they were in the 90s. It’s not an issue though, we will respect you for your services for that time. However, you lose a lot of respect if you do not realise and understand the way the game is evolving and what it takes to be at the top…and what it takes to make your team the top team in this day and age. This is where I feel too many of these guys are lacking massively, and it’s also driven by agendas generated through money and PR as well.

Agree to disagree on this, Bowlers like wasim and Waqar would be successful in any era and many greats like Pollock, Mcgrath etc etc would be equally successful.

Similarly had t20 been incorporated earlier them the likes of Hayden, Gilly, Jaysuria and many others would have dominated the sport.

The issue arose when Misbah came around since his be a Wall Philosophy only works in some dens in test cricket only. Even then Misbah has YK and Sarfaraz, 2 batters who were aggressive and didnt adopt that approach.

In test guys like Azhar, Asad, Misbah, Hafeez, Ahmed Shehzad etc wtc can be good walls and become a fortress jn some conditons but this strategy did get exposed in Aus and SA.

You just can't live in the old era anymore. I fact I predict that while root and Smith are gun batters, This is the last test era where we will see such batsmen with a majority of test batters adopting England's bazzball approach.

The likes of Head, Warner, Duckett, Brook, Green and many others playing test would have been unheard of back in the 70's and 80's. They'd be viewed as outliers like viv Richards and not the norm.

It's Pakistan's mindset to be a fortress that is causing problems. We don't need players like Rizwan and Abdullah. No one wants an impenetrable 40 of 70 odi batter.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Pakistan should beat West Indies easily.
Pakistan has dominated west Indies like they have dominated no other team
Pak vs westindies t20is

Matches played-21
Pak won-15
West Indies won-3
No result -3

Yes but one of those wins was an almighty thrashing meted out by the Windies in the WT20 semi-final.

Ironically enough I can't remember any of the Pakistan wins in a T20 World Cup

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

I'm surprised how long it has been since Pakistan visited West Indies for a white-ball tour. If I'm not wrong, I don't think Pakistan have visited since 2016 or 2017

Generally these teams enjoy playing each other because both have a decent chance of winning. And both boards enjoy a good relationship as well

 

[The Bald Eagle]

No interest from fans' side so far. Russell should have waited for PCT...but chose the wrong team; Aussies

 

[Rana]

Ya tou win hai

Ya tou Lauderhill hai

 

[Mohraheem]

July 31st! Not August 1st

 

[BDfanforever]

West Indies is not USA. Why are WI matches being played in USA?

 

[sweep_shot]

West Indies is not USA. Why are WI matches being played in USA?

That is also my question.

Florida is not a part of West Indies. West Indies have so many venues. Why play in Florida?

 

[Nasty Naz]

Guessing they go with:

Farhan
Saim
Haris
Agha
Hasan Nawaz
Khushdil
Nawaz
Faheem
Hasan
Shaheen
Rauf

I would like to see Fakhar go back at that 4th spot where he's shown to be at his best at the international level. Gives the team a much needed lefty bat right in the middle of the lineup who can smash spinners.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Is this series even happening? Windies haven't even announced a squad yet and match is less than 24 hours away

 

[Devadwal]

Is this series even happening? Windies haven't even announced a squad yet and match is less than 24 hours away

West Indies Squad: Brandon King, Shai Hope(w/c), Keacy Carty, Sherfane Rutherford, Shimron Hetmyer, Romario Shepherd, Jason Holder, Matthew Forde, Alzarri Joseph, Akeal Hosein, Jediah Blades, Evin Lewis, Roston Chase, Jewel Andrew, Rovman Powell, Gudakesh Motie

From cricbuzz .

 

[Vikram1989]

Is this series even happening? Windies haven't even announced a squad yet and match is less than 24 hours away

Yeah ur rt.This is all together low even for wi.Looks broadcast deals are really important for the boards to even think about the opponent.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Is this series even happening? Windies haven't even announced a squad yet and match is less than 24 hours away

weird init, maybe they are planning something behind the scenes after the whitewash against aussies.

some squads are floating about online but nothing official.

 

[harshjoshi87]

If Pakistan wants proper practice, Pakistan should play against CPL teams rather than this money hungry garbage team.

 

[harshjoshi87]

Is this series even happening? Windies haven't even announced a squad yet and match is less than 24 hours away

West Indies chief selector Sammy who is also the coach should be ashamed of himself for losing all 8 matches to Australia. He should resign.

 

[Omer2002]

West Indies Squad: Brandon King, Shai Hope(w/c), Keacy Carty, Sherfane Rutherford, Shimron Hetmyer, Romario Shepherd, Jason Holder, Matthew Forde, Alzarri Joseph, Akeal Hosein, Jediah Blades, Evin Lewis, Roston Chase, Jewel Andrew, Rovman Powell, Gudakesh Motie

From cricbuzz .

that is too powerful for Pak team i am afraid

 

[Nikhil_cric]

West Indies chief selector Sammy who is also the coach should be ashamed of himself for losing all 8 matches to Australia. He should resign.

@DeadlyVenom

Sammy/CWI is trying to make a multi format squad and picking Carry and Hope in Test squad based on ODI performances, Chase as well .

These guys have been playing non stop cricket since Ireland white ball tour and their performances are going down as well in all formats.

Maybe this is why Pooran retired ?

When will these guys learn ?

 

[Ball Blazer]

Pakistan to take on West Indies challenge in three-match T20I series

Pakistan are all set to take on West Indies in the eighth bilateral T20I series between the two teams after they first faced each other in April 2011 in the T20 format.

The three T20Is, beginning on Thursday, 31 July (1 August, 5am Pakistan time) at the Central Broward Park & Broward County Stadium in Florida is the first meeting between the two teams in T20Is since December 2021.

The second and third T20I are scheduled to take place on 2 and 3 August at the same venue with the first ball slated to be bowled at 8pm local time (3 and 4 August, 5am Pakistan time).

Pakistan will take the field in Lauderhill, a venue that has played host to 12 ODIs and 17 T20Is since May 2010, for the second time after beating Ireland by three wickets in the ICC T20 World Cup 2024.

Overall Pakistan have won 15 of the 21 T20Is played between the two teams with hosts winning three and as many ending in no result. Both the teams will be looking to make amends to their recent most T20I series results after visitors conceded 2-1 to Bangladesh and hosts 5-0 to Australia.

Pakistan arrived in Lauderhill on Monday, 28 July and took part in two intensive training sessions. Haris Rauf, Hasan Ali and Shaheen Shah Afridi have returned to the T20I squad.

Pakistan T20I captain, Salman Ali Agha:

“We are really looking forward to playing at this wonderful venue and our time here so far has been exciting. I feel the three T20Is will also be entertaining and as a team we are eagerly looking forward to take the field.

“We have a fine blend of youth and experience in our squad and it is highly productive that we are going into yet another T20I series as the build-up towards the T20 World Cup picks up pace.

“The West Indies are a formidable T20I side despite the results not going their way recently and I feel we’ll have to play our best possible game in order to outfox them in this series.”

Pakistan T20I squad:

Salman Ali Agha (captain), Abrar Ahmed, Faheem Ashraf, Fakhar Zaman, Haris Rauf, Hasan Ali, Hasan Nawaz, Hussain Talat, Khushdil Shah, Mohammad Haris (wicket-keeper), Mohammad Nawaz, Sahibzada Farhan (wicket-keeper), Saim Ayub, Shaheen Shah Afridi and Sufyan Moqim

Series schedule: (T20Is to begin at 8pm local time)

31 July – First T20I v West Indies, Central Broward Park & Broward County Stadium, Lauderhill, USA

2 Aug – Second T20I v West Indies, Central Broward Park & Broward County Stadium, Lauderhill, USA

3 Aug – Third T20I v West Indies, Central Broward Park & Broward County Stadium, Lauderhill, USA

8 Aug – First ODI v West Indies, Brian Lara Cricket Academy, Trinidad & Tobago

10 Aug – Second ODI v West Indies, Brian Lara Cricket Academy, Trinidad & Tobago

12 Aug – Third ODI v West Indies, Brian Lara Cricket Academy, Trinidad & Tobago

 

[jnaveen1980]

Battle between two low ranked sides. Sometimes it can produce thrillers.

 

[shamaan]

Should be a good series.

 

[Justcrazy]

WI over the years have performed better against Pakistan.

Pakistan has to play really well to win this 20 20 series. They will be better in OD though.

 

[Devadwal]

Battle between two low ranked sides. Sometimes it can produce thrillers.

This is just practise match for westindies to prepare for World T20 aganist Minnows Pakistan . @TheSultan will agree with you

 

[DeadlyVenom]

1am start UK time. Difficult match to watch.

 

[cricfan432]

I dont think we should expect high scoring pitches given previous matches In usa in t20 wc 2024, people will be out with axe if pak fails but it will be due to pitch

 

[RidiculousMan]

1am start UK time. Difficult match to watch.

Majority of the fans will just be catching up highlights and that's the way it should be. No need to sacrifice your sleep for a bilateral t20

 

[Devadwal]

I dont think we should expect high scoring pitches given previous matches In usa in t20 wc 2024, people will be out with axe if pak fails but it will be due to pitch

Yes Pakistan only can lost the matches due to pitches. its Never the issue of skills

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

Majority of the fans will just be catching up highlights and that's the way it should be. No need to sacrifice your sleep for a bilateral t20

Bro i am going to wake up at 5 am for this match can't miss pakistan playing lol

 

[mominsaigol]

Bro i am going to wake up at 5 am for this match can't miss pakistan playing lol

Unfortunately I will have to skip due to work commitments.

 

[sweep_shot]

Majority of the fans will just be catching up highlights and that's the way it should be. No need to sacrifice your sleep for a bilateral t20

Good decision.

I also don't watch cricket if it is at midnight. Why sacrifice my sleep?

 

[AZulfi]

The battle of two very erratic and inconsistent batting sides